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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 02:22
by Tanaji
sanjaykumar wrote: 13 Feb 2024 20:15 These Sikhs are free with their opinions on Hinduism but when Hindus give their opinion on Sikhi the panth is endangered. Hindus are killed.

First explain why Sikhi is hemorrhaging Khalsa to isai.

Or why the panth is silent on sikh girls being abducted and converted in that brother monotheistic entity Pakistan.

Then talk big.
I once asked a Khalistani sympathiser as to how he would rank the following in order of most to least hurtful to Sikhs:
  • Skewed male to female ratio
  • Drug problem in youth
  • Falling water table in Punjab
  • High incidence of cancer (probably due to indiscriminate use of low cost pesticides and fertilizers)
  • RoLers preying on Sikh heathen
  • Disinterest of youth in tending farmlands
  • Evil Hindus
The person was predictably silent but replied after 3 days that most of the above were due to machinations of Hindus and decades of conspiracy.

I stopped talking to that person after that.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 02:51
by sanjaykumar
Hehe predictable.

Soon Hindus will learn to revel in being the evil Hindu bania.

I don’t engage them anymore. To be very frank, it is because of Hindus. I find the rapidly improving economy, perhaps 90-95% Hindu, if you will, speaks more eloquently than I could.


And even more bluntly, it’s much more important what happens in Gujarat or Tamil Nadu than what happens in panjab.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 05:04
by SriKumar
sanjaykumar wrote: 14 Feb 2024 01:30 What is the connection?
PErhpas the farmer said 'gaantht' (to rhyme with can't) which means knot (as a knot in a thread). The connection with chakka could be the spinning wheel (Gandhian one, used to spin cotton into threads). Maybe a knot in the thread is a way of saying something is off/awry.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 05:24
by KL Dubey
SriKumar wrote: 14 Feb 2024 05:04
sanjaykumar wrote: 14 Feb 2024 01:30 What is the connection?
PErhpas the farmer said 'gaantht' (to rhyme with can't) which means knot (as a knot in a thread). The connection with chakka could be the spinning wheel (Gandhian one, used to spin cotton into threads). Maybe a knot in the thread is a way of saying something is off/awry.
This conversation is just hilarious. Reminds me of the "ganpat rai" joke/story. :lol:

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 06:53
by SriKumar
:D Well, I had to give it a PG13 spin (chakka) in this august forum; and glad to return the favor, Sir. Your own earlier BRF handle was a source of occasional mirth for me when it had the letter P in it. Please to excuse but once when a poster referred to you as KLPD ji, I lost it. Too bad there is no P in it anymore.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 07:36
by sanjaykumar
It is reasonable that chakki, in the sense of wheel stands for Ashoka’s wheel, on the triranga. And thus national resolve.

The man should have been a poet.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 11:03
by Yagnasri
My personal view is we need to stop idiotic ideas like the Sikhs being some superhumans and the "sword arm of India" or "great marshall caste/race." It is these ideas that provide the base of all Khali ideas. They are as good or bad as any others in Bharat. In fact, for the last two or three decades, Sikhs and Punjab have declined due to the faster growth of other states and sections of the society. Now, all they have is this idea to go to Kanneda. That is all. They have no ideas for Punjab and no positive ideas for their community.

Caste identity and caste discrimination are rampant in Sikhs. They even have bonded labour in some areas, as per some reports. How can one develop with this kind of continuing situation?

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 12:51
by SRajesh
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 679356.cms
Mamma filing papers for RS a sure sign of what is going to happen in 2024 elections.
She is quitting the elections to save herself from the ignominy of losing the family borough like the son! :shock:
She is pushing daughter to take the fall!!
Hope BJP select an ideal foil
Wonder if Maneka or Varun(but he has a biecome a bit of an woke and fallen out of reckoning) could be resurrected.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 14:20
by chetak
SRajesh wrote: 14 Feb 2024 12:51 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 679356.cms
Mamma filing papers for RS a sure sign of what is going to happen in 2024 elections.
She is quitting the elections to save herself from the ignominy of losing the family borough like the son! :shock:
She is pushing daughter to take the fall!!
Hope BJP select an ideal foil
Wonder if Maneka or Varun(but he has a biecome a bit of an woke and fallen out of reckoning) could be resurrected
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SRajesh ji,


auntie ji is trying to save her janpath jhopdi and hearth in dilli

bitya has taken panga with yogi ji and also with smriti irani. That is a very costly, and perhaps, even a politically fatal mistake to make, especially by someone who has no political base, reputation, or even ability (दादी की नाक को छोड़कर). So, it will be very difficult for bitya to pull though the इंतिहान without buying all kweschun papers and teacher writing her answer papers

The BJP will ensure that the mafia famiglia are driven out of UP because, already, there are no safe seats for any of them in their home state

meneka and varun are both dead horses (whose political need/requirement for the BJP has passed the sell by date) and cannot not be flogged further to produce any meaningful results as they have nothing to bring to the table, and besides, both are "entitled" praanis who need huge help and funds to campaign. beta may be looking for political resurrection via some of the more communal parties like SP or BSP, in which case he will have to pay heavily through his nose for the ticket

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 18:23
by chetak
Due to farmer protests, 50 per cent less Diesel and 20 per cent less Gas were able to be dispatched to Punjab.

Meanwhile, Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud takes Note of Traffic Issues, says SC Will accommodate if lawyers face problems in reaching Court due to road congestion.

BTW, in 2010, when the UPA was ruling, the congis themselves had dismissed the swaminathan report, saying it could "distort the market."

and now soreass mutra is being sold by the dimwit dynast who says that the swaminathan report will be implemented if the congis came to power, as does the geriatric goebbels, the congi headman



Farmers protest leading to fuel shortage? 50% less diesel, 20% less gas dispatched to Punjab due to ‘Delhi Chalo’



https://www.livemint.com/news/india/far ... 53685.html

While one could say that the Congress has sought to seize the chance to reverse their fortunes in the upcoming Lok Sabha elections in 2024 but in 2010, when the UPA bloc was ruling, the Congress had dismissed the Swaminathan Report, saying it could "distort the market."

BJP's Prakash Javadekar, in a question to the Ministry of Agriculture, had demanded to know “if the government had accepted the recommendations of the Swaminathan Commission regarding calculation of remunerative prices to be paid to the farmers".

In its reply, the then Ministry of Agriculture had stated that “the National Commission of Farmers under the Chairmanship of Prof. MS Swaminathan had recommended that the Minimum Support Price (MSP) should be at least 50 per cent more than the weighted average cost of production".

"This recommendation, however, has not been accepted by the Government because MSP is recommended by the Commission for Agriculture Costs and Prices (CACP) based on objective criteria and considering variety of relevant factors. Hence, prescribing an increase if a at least 50 per cent on cost may distort the market. A mechanical linkage between MSP and cost of production may be counter-productive in some cases," the response added.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 19:17
by chetak
Fearing one more split in congress

maharashtra congress didn't nominate fake economist RRR for rajya sabha seat.


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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 20:27
by chetak
@sanjoychakra

50,000 B’deshis & Rohingyas had encroached Railway land and were issued eviction notice.

But in December 2022, the Supreme Court of India stopped the removal of over 4,000 illegal structures, in #Haldwani station.

On 8 February 2024, a mosque and an illegal madrasa was demolished. Illegals attacked with stones, katta pistol and swords.

They burnt a police station, injured 300 policemen, burned police vehicle, shot dead a Hindu youth and threw his dead body on railway line.

#SamajwadiParty leader Mateen Siddiqui’s brother Javed was arrested for inciting violence.

Main conspirator Abdul Malik nabbed from Delhi.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 21:11
by Sachin
We have thrown stones to take down the drones but they broke our own heads only, that's why we bring tennis balls today :lol:. No wonder Sardar-ji Jokes became popular in India. These fellows even surpass KL commies in stupidity.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 14 Feb 2024 22:37
by Rakesh
https://x.com/Badass_Superdad/status/17 ... 73073?s=20 ---> 🎶 I’m a Babri Girl , in a Babri world 🎶

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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 01:51
by bala
With so many joining BJP, like Nitesh, senior congress leader Ashok Chavan, ADMK cadres and others I think even Pappu RaGa might consider joining BJP (hey if you can't win join them!).

Nevertheless, enjoy this revelation by Priyam Gandhi-Mody (interesting last name!)

Priyam Gandhi-Mody is a strategist specializing in political communication. She frequently writes political non-fiction and ‘A Nation To Protect’ is her third book. She’s an alumna of the University of Delaware and Florida State University. Having worked briefly at the Capitol in Tallahassee, she now lives in Mumbai with her husband, son. Her latest book 'What if there was no Congress: The uncensored history of India' is now out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXIUpW3KqQY

2:31 Interesting what IFs of history
3:53 Nehru-Gandhi family Vs Congress party
5:22 Modi Vs BJP
6:21 Gems of Mani Shankar Aiyar
8:02 Why blame Congress for partition?
11:00 Gandhi, Jinnah & path to partition
15:09 Why Nehru-Patel are villains of partition?
20:13 Nehru & family hijacked party against Gandhi’s wishes?
22:09 Nehru, Hari Singh, Abdullah, Mountbatten & Kashmir blunder
30:01 Nehru’s Himalayan blunder of 1962
35:34 How Congress invented socialism backed political corruption
40:36 Nehru’s ‘Primary’ Sin
45:49 Sonia angry against Rao-Manmohan for 1991 reforms
47:49 What if there was no BJP
50:01 Congress’ Sin of 1984
53:40 JP was slow poisoned by Indira?

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 13:30
by chetak
via @MinhazMerchant



As India’s most respected agri-economist, Ashok Gulati writes: “Agreeing to (MSP) demand will mean fiscal stability will go for a toss & food inflation rise.”

#Swaminathan report was released in 2006. Manmohan Singh govt refused to implement it. Why? Read below



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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 14:21
by V_Raman
What kind of a Title is this - Maximum Sensible Policy - seems to imply that the current MSP system is the right one - while the contents of the article says otherwise!!

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 15:36
by chetak
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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 17:01
by chetak
Read. Understand. Comprehend. Act.


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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 18:36
by Lisa
chetak wrote: 15 Feb 2024 13:30 via @MinhazMerchant

As India’s most respected agri-economist, Ashok Gulati writes: “Agreeing to (MSP) demand will mean fiscal stability will go for a toss & food inflation rise.”

#Swaminathan report was released in 2006. Manmohan Singh govt refused to implement it. Why? Read below


This economist also mugged a perfectly well meaning journalist this morning. Shame on him!

https://twitter.com/MeghUpdates/status/ ... 8154307729

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 19:18
by Haresh
Tanaji wrote: 14 Feb 2024 02:22
I once asked a Khalistani sympathiser as to how he would rank the following in order of most to least hurtful to Sikhs:
  • Skewed male to female ratio
  • Drug problem in youth
  • Falling water table in Punjab
  • High incidence of cancer (probably due to indiscriminate use of low cost pesticides and fertilizers)
  • RoLers preying on Sikh heathen
  • Disinterest of youth in tending farmlands
  • Evil Hindus
The person was predictably silent but replied after 3 days that most of the above were due to machinations of Hindus and decades of conspiracy.

I stopped talking to that person after that.
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All those points that you make are well made. These farmer demonstrations are basically a display of Jat supremacy.
I think I have mentioned it before, during a visit to Punjab a few years ago, I asked a Jat farmer "Does it not bother you that the poor are converting to xtianity" his reply was "why should we care, they still have to work on our land"
And while working on their land it is the low caste Sikhs who are the victims of:

[*]Drug problem in youth - Because they have a sense of hopelessness, in some cases the Jat farmers provide the drugs to develop a dependency and exploit their labour and time.
[*]Falling water table in Punjab - the low castes are unduly affected, the Jats can and do, make sure they have enough, hang everyone else.
[*]High incidence of cancer (probably due to indiscriminate use of low cost pesticides and fertilizers) - again this affects the low caste farm labourers, they are the ones who physically spray the chemicals, they never have protection.
[*]RoLers preying on Sikh heathen - it is the lower caste Sikhs converting
[*]Disinterest of youth in tending farmlands - why should they, they could go to another part of India or the mideast or to Europe and be farm labourers, they would be treated better and get paid more.

This is a actually a huge opportunity for the Center, they could announce that instead of loan waiver and MSP they are going to spend that money setting up Skill training centers and Industrial Training Institutes for the SC community, just think of the votes !!
On my last visit to Punjab, my cousins told me that the jats are always trying to steal the land of any non-Jat.
A perfect opportunity for change in Punjab. These idiots carry on with the same backward caste supremacy in Canada, USA/UK/everywhere.

"The person was predictably silent but replied after 3 days that most of the above were due to machinations of Hindus and decades of conspiracy."
they sit around in the Gurudwara, and I know this from personal experience and it is the elders who are ignorant, caste conscious and feudal who fill the minds of the young, I know this from personal experience.

"I stopped talking to that person after that." I personally would keep on talking, sometimes you can get through tp people and make them think

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 20:40
by chetak
using the NDA belt and the UPA braces to hold up his paki made langote, abdulla seems intent on riding two political boats at once, thus hedging his bets in a taqiya move, while desperately looking for a heads I win, tails you lose result



Farooq Abdullah Open To BJP Alliance: 'Every Door Is Open For The Political Party'



https://www.news18.com/politics/nationa ... 80158.html

National Conference President Farooq Abdullah on Thursday announced that his party will contest alone on all seats in the upcoming Lok Sabha elections.

In yet another setback for the INDIA alliance ahead of the polls, he also hinted that he may re-join the NDA alliance in the future.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 21:02
by sanjaykumar
There are many fault lines in panjab. Caste certainly. Religion.

There are several districts that border Hindu majority himachal/Jammu. One borders Haryana/Rajasthan. Do they want to be associated with mountains or the desert. Or are they content with the jungle?

Retraining of farm labourers is not helpful. The land owning jats have ensured there is no rival employer in the state, other than agriculture and government. Both of course are jatt fiefdoms.


The labourers need to demand fair wages. In panjab they live like serfs while the maaliks drive in rovers. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be paid fair wages. About 10-100 times what it is now.

Bhappa Sikhs are few in panjab but they are mostly shop keepers. They tend to be more studious and quite diligent. They should have encouragement to seek administrative positions.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 15 Feb 2024 22:15
by krithivas
MAJOR BLOW TO MODI - CONTROVERSIAL ELECTORAL BOND SCHEME SCRAPPED - DEMOCRACY WINS - TRANSPARENCY WINS - MODI's SLUSH FUND EXPOSED blah blah blah
...... but what is the real story? Looks like BJP pulled in 50% of the bonds while the rest pulled in the remaining. What's the real story?
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiam ... id=US%3Aen

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 01:39
by Haresh
sanjaykumar wrote: 15 Feb 2024 21:02 There are many fault lines in panjab. Caste certainly. Religion.

There are several districts that border Hindu majority himachal/Jammu. One borders Haryana/Rajasthan. Do they want to be associated with mountains or the desert. Or are they content with the jungle?

Retraining of farm labourers is not helpful. The land owning jats have ensured there is no rival employer in the state, other than agriculture and government. Both of course are jatt fiefdoms.


The labourers need to demand fair wages. In panjab they live like serfs while the maaliks drive in rovers. There is no reason why they shouldn’t be paid fair wages. About 10-100 times what it is now.

Bhappa Sikhs are few in panjab but they are mostly shop keepers. They tend to be more studious and quite diligent. They should have encouragement to seek administrative positions.
If the labourers are retrained and actually have skills then they will no longer be dependent on that sort of farm labouring work. A labourer is a labourer, well paid or not, If Punjab is to change for the better then skill training is needed, they could move to other states or even abroad if they have skills.
Sooner or later Industry will have to be invited as a matter of necessity, and when that happens the power center will shift, budgets have to be balanced.

Fair wages or not, the land will still belong to the Jats, which means they will always have the power. An alternative power will have to be encouraged.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 06:44
by Yagnasri
I fear Punjab is a gone case for a long time to come. Caste suprimacy+Khali ideas, Drugs, INC/pAAPis/Akali politicos who ponder every evil thought of the Khalis, etc, and no realisation that the world and economy moved far ahead of them will ensure it will not recover anytime soon.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 07:11
by sanjaykumar
There is a striking cultural parallel with another autoerotic, supremacist ideology that has led a neighbouring country into the foremost ranks of not only a failed polity but also a failed people.

Perhaps I don’t have any hangups about dharma is why it is obvious to me. The Hindus are a cultural river. There are successful shoots, Buddhism and Jainism, and there are dead ends.

Get used to it. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with a ghetto culture of veneration of the gun, drugs, crime. Get something for nothing.
Of course as long as the white middle class is paying for it. India is similar.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 08:49
by dsreedhar
The Punjab state govt should be asked to pay MSP, pension and whatever their farmers are protesting. The burden should be moved to state govt rather than central govt to help their state's farmers. Atleast that should be brought into talk and pushed.
If these radicals get violent, the police should shoot their legs and make them hurt.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 09:18
by Sachin
Dakait!! Parade par
Dakait has now joined the band wagon. From what I understand from the news papers, yesterday's discussions with Union Ministers also did not lead to a compromise. Next discussion is planned for Sunday. But looks like the Haryana Govt has now drawn its battle lines and the farmer-broker gang is unable to reach Delhi via Haryana. The farmer-broker gang also knows that it may not be an easy walk over like last time.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 09:58
by SBajwa
People blocking road/rails should be declared as felons with proper punishment. Farmers are emotionally just following the diktat of the politicians (congoons, commies, leftists, islamists) .

Last year wheat in USA was bought at $430 nominal U.S. dollars per metric ton (1000 KG) from farmers. which is $43 per Quintal (100 KG) comes to approx. Rs 3500/100 kg. MSP for wheat in India is fixed at Rs 2100 - Rs 2300 per 100 KG depending upon the quality. I do not understand why farmers are hell bent upon guarantee of the MSP much lower than the international prices.

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/why ... 024-02-13/

"Farm union leaders are seeking guarantees, backed by law, of more state support or a minimum purchase price for crops.
The government announces support prices for more than 20 crops each year to set a benchmark, but state agencies buy only rice and wheat at the support level, benefiting around just 7% of farmers who raise those crops." (These 7% are Punjab, Haryana and Western UP farmers).

"State agencies buy the two staples at government-fixed minimum support prices to build reserves to run the world's biggest food welfare programme that entitles 800 million Indians to free rice and wheat. This costs the government $24.7 billion annually - its largest outgoing subsidy."

"Farmers also insist that the government ensure at a least 50% profit over their overall cost of production."

"They have further asked the government take action against a federal minister whose son was arrested during the 2021 protest on accusations he ran over and killed four protesting farmers."

"To placate protesters, the government might agree to provide them a bonus over and above the minimum support price for 2024. It has fixed this year's minimum support price for wheat at 2,275 rupees ($27.41) per 100 kg, 7% higher than in 2023.
($1 = 82.98 rupees)"

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Since the MSP in Punjab and Haryana is much higher than in Eastern UP, I know several farmers who transported their wheat (Bribing the police at state/city borders) to Punjab/Haryana.

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Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 13:19
by disha
krithivas wrote: 15 Feb 2024 22:15 MAJOR BLOW TO MODI - CONTROVERSIAL ELECTORAL BOND SCHEME SCRAPPED - DEMOCRACY WINS - TRANSPARENCY WINS - MODI's SLUSH FUND EXPOSED blah blah blah
...... but what is the real story? Looks like BJP pulled in 50% of the bonds while the rest pulled in the remaining. What's the real story?
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiam ... id=US%3Aen
Did not know that reuters is now into giving BJs. Earlier it was the job of Darkha Butt and now it has gone to K'taka CONGoon Lavanya BJ.

Coming to the point, this has no impact on Modi or BJP. Electoral bonds was a good step forward. What happened was as you yourself noticed, BJP started getting 50% of the share and the rest was going to remaining. TMC was the next big beneficiary.

SC is trying to go the US route where anyone can donate to political party and they have to declare it. In India, problem is black money and this was one way of getting black money properly into the elections. Now it is back to cash and liquor bootlegging.

Here Modi will just enforce the law a little to tight. Let CONgoons go to supreme court and ask for relief from IT. And all IT will point to SC is that it is following the law. What If SC in its true wisdom "breaks" the law, to give relief to CONgoons? :-)

By striking down the electoral bond law, SC painted itself into a corner. All Modi has to do is read the criticisms of SC and put in electoral-bond-2 in his 3rd stint.

Here CONgoons are already crying:

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/c ... 2024-02-16

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Around Jan 20, I mentioned that Shri Ram lalla has blessed us. Now I feel that Hanuman is let loose in Lanka! How so?

1. Chornia has decided to go to Rajya sabha via Rajasthan. To save the 10 Janpath bungalow.
2. Ajay Maken will go the RS route via K'taka.
3. There is not enough RS seats for the CONgoons. And they do not want to face Modi in LS.

UP, Bihar, Gujarat, Haryana, MP, Chattisgarh, Maharashtra, Orissa, Bengal, Assam ... CONgoons are wiped out and my prediction is that they will get ZERO seats in N.India. Even in K'taka, they will struggle to get past 5 seats!

And Modi-Shah are going after Chornia-Pappu with a focus. If you take out the prime dynasty, rest of the nasties will fall in line (or fall out).

Here SC tried to save CONgoons from total embarassment and painted themselves into a corner.

Of course mediapimps will do blow to modi and all that, but the writing is clear. If parties like DMK/CONgoons/MaoMata/PAAP try to get money the black way, they and their defenders will be blackened.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 15:52
by srin
Politics aside, I'm a bit torn about the electoral bond decision. While transparency is important, I think privacy of contributor is paramount - in these days of cancel culture and wokism. I thought that the electoral bonds were a good tradeoff - it ensured that KYC was done with bank and only white money could be contributed to parties.
The only way I could think to improve the electoral bond was to ensure that only private individuals (not companies) could purchase the bonds.

Since transparency is constitutional, it is only fair that all NGOs that approach the court with PILs etc should also be forced to disclose their donors and to do KYC of their donors.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 16:53
by S_Madhukar
Well said Dishaji but Chornia will have donation from Nehru Gandhi charities so she will walk away easily but then Khangressis will have to ponder whether to donate to the franchise or walk in to the closest Bhajpa office and change colours. Namo will try to squeeze these chaps from the bottom up to get more masala on the famiglia franchise and tactics like the latest chap Chavan in Maha while drying up LS seats making the famiglia irrelevant. Problem in India is the top guys always walk away scot free while the lieutenants are punished. If that reverses then we have a chance of cleaning up the system

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 16 Feb 2024 23:22
by bala
India was a punishment posting for the Britshit civil service folks. The people posted into India had a dim view of foreign nations and their idol worshipping pagan natives, the oppressive heat, dust and general conditions depressed them, though they enjoyed lording over the place with so much domestic help at their disposal. One of the enduring traits of the Britshit is to misunderstand another nation (not really understand their customs, tradition, culture) and shape their viewpoint based on their objectives - looting, divide & rule, wantonly kill them for any excuse and more. Sometimes they do discover the actual truth based on their judgement but invariably there are others who remind them of the true purpose of their being in a foreign nation.

The Britshits established four presidencies as their main ruling centers - Bengal, Madras, Bombay and Allahabad/Prayagraj presidencies. India being a diverse nation had differing customs, tradition and culture, and furthermore to confuse the average Britshit mind different languages. Being mighty narrow minded they concluded that perhaps these people may belong to a differnt race and religion. The missionaries ensured that Abrahamic principles are ingrained in the populace. This in turn creates a Reforms movement in hinduism in Bengal (first Britshit presidency) and people are encouraged to revolt against Hindu customs, tradition and culture. Sanskrit as the predominant root language of India was due to Bengal.

In 1801 Henry Thomas Colebrook surprisingly observed that Sanskrit is root language (oops, sometimes the truth is exposed) in India. His parents were Sir George Colebrooke, the 2nd Baronet, MP for Arundel and Chairman of the East India Company! He was entrusted the translation of the major Digest of Hindu Laws, a monumental study of Hindu law. He translated the two treatises, the Mitacshara of Vijnaneshwara and the Dayabhaga of Jimutavahana, under the title Law of Inheritance. And they say India had no jurisprudence/law and everything came out of the Britshits.

However the primary mission of the Britshit was not to glorify India but to outright loot and kill its denizens. The missionary zeal in Britshit India produced two schools of thought - one for sanskrit only and the other considered tamil & telugu as distinctly separate (due to Madras Presidency) from Sanskrit. The second school of thought wins in the showdown in politics of missionaries in Britshit India. So now we have a linguistical divide in India which were never the case. Noah in the bible is supposed to have 4 children - japhet, yam, ham and shem. The Asiatic society founder William Jones (who wrongly anchored many rulers in India with contempory western characters) concluded for whatever reasons (pulled out from his rearend) that japhet, yam, ham were Sanskrit speakers. Yam is in the Quran. Shem was ultimately given tamil & telugu with the noted fact that Tamil/Telugu is close to old hebrew and arabic! Baap re kya imagination of the Britshit!

Two Britshit administrators Francis Ellis White and Alexander Campbell posted in Madras Presidency noted the difference in populace between presidencies and conclude they must be of different race! By 1856, Robert Caldwell, bishop of Tirunelvelli, TN, firmly established the deadly cocktail of Religion (somehow the religion practiced in the South is different than the north, nevermind Shiva/Vishnu/Brahma), Race and Language as a dividing factor in the Indian populace (comparative grammar of dravidian languages, which he pulled out of thin air). No wonder today the maximum number of Christians happen to come from Tirunelvelli, TN. However there were many who did not buy into the conversion, the brahmins mainly opposed it. However to live without society support, they and others learnt Angrez (MacCauley putra/putri) and were employed by the Britshit as clerks, administrators and so on. Sometimes their Angrez was better than the Britshit natives! The local populace saw a huge divide happening before their eyes - Angrez speakers of natives. The divisions accentuated and pretty soon there was divide between Tamil/Telugu (shem's language) and Andhra was created separate from TN. There were other divisions introduced by the Casta system of the Britshit census. So ridiculous were these divisions that there was clamouring for a different nationhood and some factions were openly in sync with Pukes and China.

By 1910 the divide of Aryan/Dravidian, North/South, casta division and much more was so deep and entrenched. This was exactly what the Britshits wanted - nothing rooted in India's diverse fabric and common customs (same Shiva/Vishnu/Brahma deities throughout India). All made up nonsense from the rear end of Britshit administrators and missionaries. The divide is so ingrained in India that people of India think of them as true and continue to perpetuates everywhere even today. Dravidastan concept is a cancer inherited from the Britshits. They have Lord Ayyappan temple as having a christian cross unearthed from some place nearby, Saint Thiruvalluvar (patron saint of the south) as espousing christian values, a fake Apostal Thomas visiting Mylapore, etc. These are cancer inherited from Britshits rule of India. In India, the investment in division is 2 centuries old and continues even to this day.

More here from Lawyer Sai Deepak ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgEZJcpnTik

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 00:50
by sanjaykumar

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 01:51
by Jay
disha wrote: 16 Feb 2024 13:19 Here CONgoons are already crying:
The need to cry more. When congress cries, it surely means India is progressing on the correct side.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 03:46
by KL Dubey
chetak wrote: 15 Feb 2024 13:30 via @MinhazMerchant
As India’s most respected agri-economist, Ashok Gulati writes: “Agreeing to (MSP) demand will mean fiscal stability will go for a toss & food inflation rise.”
I was perhaps more interested in the article to the left (not fully readable in the photo), written by someone with the same name as the UN chief. I wasn't able to find it online. If someone has it, please post on the "India-US relations" thread.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 10:01
by bala
President Droupadi Murmu interview with Union Minister Smriti in mostly Hindi. She shared her journey to the highest constitutional post in the country during this interview. In the interview, Murmu shed light on stories from her childhood memories to public life. The special episode was recorded at Rashtrapati Bhavan on the occasion of ‘World Radio Day’ – 13th February.

This interview, is conducted in a calm inquiring demeanor by Smriti and President does a great job with humility and plain talk, presenting herself as a very endearing person at one of the highest post in Bharat. She talks about Yoga, Mental Health, dharma, and other topics in Sanatan Dharma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPn0EPAxyA

// thanks to BJP in selecting a person like Droupadi Murmu as President of Bharat.

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 12:13
by Prem Kumar
Wonderful!

Re: Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Posted: 17 Feb 2024 13:00
by chetak
KL Dubey wrote: 17 Feb 2024 03:46
chetak wrote: 15 Feb 2024 13:30 via @MinhazMerchant
As India’s most respected agri-economist, Ashok Gulati writes: “Agreeing to (MSP) demand will mean fiscal stability will go for a toss & food inflation rise.”
I was perhaps more interested in the article to the left (not fully readable in the photo), written by someone with the same name as the UN chief. I wasn't able to find it online.

If someone has it, please post on the "India-US relations" thread.

Here you go, Dubey ji.....


The article appeared in the TOI 14 Feb 2023

Desimericans: Too few Indians get US citizenship. Why & how this must change

February 14, 2024, 8:39 AM IST TOI Edit in TOI Editorials, Edit Page, India, TOI


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To most this bit of news seemed ho-hum – 59k Indians got US citizenship last year, per USCIS. Mexicans beat Indians. Filipinos were a close third. Lots of Indians live and work in US. Waves of Mexicans get there. Philippines used to be an American colony. So, no big surprises in US citizenship figures, right? Wrong. The surprise for India is – or should be – that so few Indians became Americans in 2023. Mexico (population: 129 million) comfortably left India (pop: 1.4 billion) behind. And Philippines (pop: 112 million) came close. Indians should by far be the largest group getting American citizenship every year. Here’s why and how.

European, non-European | America, as we know it, came about thanks to ruthless land-grab and a fair amount of ethnic cleansing by European colonialists. Those nasty bits done, slave trade added to the list, European settlers went on to found what became the world’s most powerful country ever. But non-European immigrants were almost always needed in a vast country with a dynamic economy. And from 1960s, when the de facto, whites-preferred immigration policy was changed, non-whites arrived in millions. In 1960, 75% of foreign-born Americans were Europeans. In 2018, that figure was just 11%. Indians were part of this dramatic change – but never in numbers that did justice.


Density is destiny | Thanks in part to immigrants, America isn’t as badly placed in terms of falling birth rates and aging population as some other rich countries. But population density per sq km in US, world’s third most populous country, is still just 37, far lower than UK’s 280, and a small fraction of India’s 485. America is full of empty spaces, states like Wyoming, Montana, two Dakotas. India is full of industrious people. Even those who don’t have good college degrees can turn small opportunities into thriving enterprises. Think of Indians manning Italy’s famous cheesemakers. Imagine hundreds of thousands of Indians in, say, Montana – it will become a powerhouse economy. America’s capitalrich, resource-rich, technology-rich economy needs lots of people if the country is to retain its global pole position. India should be the main source. India will benefit, of course. Not just more remittances, and higher knowledge and skills diffusion. Indians will become a numerically powerful bloc in US, a voice and votes that can’t be ignored by American politicians.

Minister for immigration | To become America’s biggest source country for all kinds of talent India should put someone in charge of this. GOI should have a minister for immigration. His job will be to make sure many more Indians can legally immigrate to US. He should liaise with US govt and US states, armed with data on skills India can supply and work America needs doing, now and in near future. Economic logic is the best antidote to prejudice and bureaucracy. Govts of Haryana, UP recently launched efforts to send people to Israel, which needs workers. GOI should aim for a national, more sophisticated version of this. When millions more Indians become Americans, it’s good news for India and America.



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