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UlanBatori wrote:Excellent. Only problem is that they are located way too close to TVM, Center of Excellence In Corruption. Sort-of like the Greece of Kerala.

it is a decent central government funded inst.... someday u might consider herding yaks there...from what I heard , the yaks there are genuinely interested and top quality ...since most of them would have certainly got instis where facebook/yahoo come for campus employment , but they chose these where no one comes , shows that the yaks were interested in solid injineering onlee..
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One of the issues I heard from a ex-yak from there, is that they do not allow the yaks to register for a PhD following UG/PG as they are inducted as Scientists/Engineers in ISRO. The ex-yak was doing cutting edge work developing detectors for a space payload. This imo is not fair to the young folks. The work itself was PhD worthy. This is the usual babucracy thing at work. If BARC can register their potential scientists for PhD why not ISRO. Someone with more inside info can comment on this, if there is already a change in policy at ISRO on this important issue.
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Bade wrote:One of the issues I heard from a ex-yak from there, is that they do not allow the yaks to register for a PhD following UG/PG as they are inducted as Scientists/Engineers in ISRO. The ex-yak was doing cutting edge work developing detectors for a space payload. This imo is not fair to the young folks. The work itself was PhD worthy. This is the usual babucracy thing at work. If BARC can register their potential scientists for PhD why not ISRO. Someone with more inside info can comment on this, if there is already a change in policy at ISRO on this important issue.
They can do their MTech/PhD's after serving the bond period. The only rider is that they have to do it in one of the IIT's/IIST or IISc.
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> The only rider is that they have to do it in one of the IIT's/IIST or IISc.

fair enough, I guess, as long as their BTech is not a terminal degree de facto.
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Why not allow them to do that concurrently at IIST along with their employment at ISRO, at least for those who are working on R&D projects within ISRO ?

Think about it a bit, by not allowing this they are encouraging people to leave after their bond period to greener pastures. If you build resentment in young folks they will vote with their feet. The idea should be to keep them and their developed talent by facilitating a career path for them within ISRO or at universities as young hires to seed more R&D.
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Bade wrote:Why not allow them to do that concurrently at IIST along with their employment at ISRO, at least for those who are working on R&D projects within ISRO ?

Think about it a bit, by not allowing this they are encouraging people to leave after their bond period to greener pastures. If you build resentment in young folks they will vote with their feet. The idea should be to keep them and their developed talent by facilitating a career path for them within ISRO or at universities as young hires to seed more R&D.
They actually do that - I know some people who have done their PhD's during their service. They can do it in their field of interest while on the job.Many of them do their PhD's as part time while working in ISRO
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If they are doing that well and good. But it needs to be available to younger folks in the 20+ yr range, not after N > 5 years of experience in ISRO, then it just becomes a degree for career advancement alone to fulfill base eligibility requirements for internal promotion etc.

This also has a positive spin-off of increasing the intellectual depth of IIST itself. So it helps both ways the individual when he is the most productive in terms of ideas and the ranking of the institute as it is more likely a younger aspirant to PhD will work on cutting edge high risk areas, with lot of gainful outcomes. Why would a 40+ yr old career ISRO engineer do the hard work, what is in it for him/her other than a nice promotion to the next scale in salary.
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So one more babu run institute.

Personally I would like GOI to get out of running higher education. Governments are not good at this. Focus on primary/secondary/higher only. These institutes need to become completely independent, with subsidies for tuition and grants for poor students. No more government run colleges.
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Theo, the so called private colleges have been stuck granting 4 yr degrees for dog-years. What good have they done in the Indian context either. Can you name a single one which have done outstanding work in any field that matters. Pick any that have been around for 4-5 decades at least. Long enough for the private sector to make a dent in higher education and R&D.
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Manipal is the only which has done anything decent. Higher education too cannot be left to the whims of private entities alone. It has to be a mix of public and private across the board.
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The institute that gets Theo's ire. :-)
https://youtu.be/urzshYfTXac

More core-dump of isro related activities over the years.
https://icandsr.iitm.ac.in/sites/defaul ... ETAILS.pdf
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Bade saar,

I have nothing against these institutes. Just don’t think they should be run by babu’s CPSU fiefdom style. They need to cut that strangulating umbilical.

Don't have a problem with ISRO being a GOI entity. Maybe someday it can be run commercially but right now not possible.

BTW where do you think all those new new products you are using are coming from. Every year to 6 months, new models, new cars, new A/C, new fridge, new doors, new books, or on industrial scale Electricity, Mechanical and Plumping equipment. All of them designed and engineered by mostly private engineering students these days for private companies. Who do you think is building the Chennai Metro and who do you think will build the Kochi Metro. Walk into Home-Depot and a large chunk of the products are engineered and manufactured in India. Quality is indifferent so far but getting better. Sadly you won’t find too many IIT types engineering this stuff.
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Theo, I was addressing a specific niche of higher education be it sciences or engg. The broader role that engg has in society, means everyone does not have to be a R&D type in engg and still be productive as you listed. Certain kinds of development work or pure R&D effort cannot be easily done in a private capacity which usually addresses for-profit ventures.
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The first private university is from 1995. UGC's first recognition is from 2004. Large states like Andhra, telangana, tamil nadu have exactly 0 private universities.


Per the UGC act and these regulations, private universities are established by an act of a local legislative assembly and listed by the UGC in the Gazette upon receiving the act.


These universities had to fight for every inch from babudom through multiple court cases filed by students. Then the policy flipflops, read about the saga of deemed universities.

Even now, starting a single new course requires permissions from UGC and requires enormous baksheesh to flow. Dont expect miracles in this scenario.
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Bade,
I’m a little confused. It appeared the main point of these institutes was to train fellows who then went on to work at ISRO. How is this helping fundamental research.
As you yourself said, most are forced to leave and join some other institute for research usually abroad.
A system of grants would work a lot better if research is your aim.
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Theo, ISRO has both kinds of needs. It needs regular engineers. It also needs payload mission specialists. So far PRL & SAC in Ahmadabad were the primary crucible for Space sciences in India. SPL Trivandrum also is doing complementary work. Beyond these two biggies, the univs like IISc and IITs come in and do their bit. Not enough manpower within ISRO to achieve the goals it has set. That is where the genesis of IIST came from Madhavan Nair and support of the idea from APJ Kalam. I donot think the mandate of IIST is blue-sky research like the IISER next door also in Trivandrum.

I did not say most IIST trained people are headed abroad, I was hoping that they provide enough intellectual incentives to those charged to do applied research to stay. At least that was the thrust of my argument.
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Theo_Fidel wrote:All of them designed and engineered by mostly private engineering students these days for private companies.

Private engg students and private companies are all right. But it is a farce to think private colleges have anything to do with it.

Most pvt. college are entirely useless, they just serve the purpose of giving a basic 'degree'. Students learn on their own and learn on the job.
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Actually who says that IIST is not doing fundamental research - they are indeed doing it.Problem is it is a relatively new Insitute but it is getting there. Also some of the research just cannot be released in public domain unfortunately.
As waws said , it was started after a frustrating experience when ISRO went to the IIT's for recruitment and those they really wanted did not join so they thought of starting an institute which would nurture the type of students who where interested in space sciences and whom they needed.
From 2017 batch onwards they will throw open recruitment/selection to DRDO centers till then it will be ISRO's first right of selection.
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I have seen these "Priivate universities and colleges" first hand - its a big scam. There are some people who are truly interested and deliver but the slew of these universities are mostly run for the sake of generating money and nothing else.The scams that are coming out in medicine for eg are fantastic.
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Large body of Space Sciences with exception of Astronomy/Astrophysics cannot be labeled as fundamental research in Physical sciences by widely understood and accepted yardsticks in the world community. In the Indian context, TIFR like institutions (HCRI Allahabad, MatSc in Chennai, SINP in Kolkata, some divs in BARC, RRCAT Indore, RRI, JNCASR & IIA in B'lur) are doing fundamental research, IISc comes next. IISERs are the newer ones being groomed to replicate what IISc has achieved and more. These are the true fundamental research centers in India. I have not listed many more.
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Keep in mind that this paper was a lot easier than IIT mains that we had before 10 years....this one is a combination of multiple choice and full solution problems....they are not the absurdly tough irodov problems of yesterdins ...

The screening test is now called JEE Mains...It is a relatively easy paper conducted by the CBSE..that too has absurdly low cut offs...

http://jeeadv.iitb.ac.in/sites/default/ ... 4-2015.pdf

Then IIT conducts the JEE advanced , which is a multiple choice/full solutions anser combination....

And all these SC/ST are not usually from poor family...they can usually afford all the coaching etc...


Here are the question papers..

http://www.plancessjee.com/jee-analysis ... tion-paper

even if a SC/ST baccha gets a handful of MCQs and some subjective problems he is in...
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Bade wrote:Large body of Space Sciences with exception of Astronomy/Astrophysics cannot be labeled as fundamental research in Physical sciences by widely understood and accepted yardsticks in the world community. In the Indian context, TIFR like institutions (HCRI Allahabad, MatSc in Chennai, SINP in Kolkata, some divs in BARC, RRCAT Indore, RRI, JNCASR & IIA in B'lur) are doing fundamental research, IISc comes next. IISERs are the newer ones being groomed to replicate what IISc has achieved and more. These are the true fundamental research centers in India. I have not listed many more.
Look up Reshmi Lexmi and her work on blazars as one example.
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Cabinet nod not needed for foreign collaborations by IITs IIMs
Higher educational institutions including the IITs, IIMs and central universities will not need cabinet nod for collaboration with foreign institutions, an order from the cabinet secretariat said.

The latest order communicated to the HRD ministry last week is the reversal of the earlier order from cabinet secretariat which said every MoU with a foreign institution will need to pass through the cabinet.

“Cabinet approval will be needed only for government to government collaborations and not for higher educational institutions signing MoUs with foreign universities,” an official told HT.

The new order will benefit IITs and IIMs which have more than 50 collaborations each with foreign universities.

Sources said the cabinet secretariat reversed its order after HRD ministry wrote to it saying the move would have a bearing on the autonomy of the IITs IIMs and central universities granted to them through their respective Acts.

For example section 6(1)(I) of the Institute of Technology Act, 1961, under which the IITs were set up says: “Every institute shall exercise the following powers and perform the duties, namely, to cooperate with educational or other institutions in any part of the world having objects wholly or partly similar to those of the institute by exchange of teachers and scholars and generally in such manner as may be conducive to their common objects.”

The ministry also argued that it did not have the wherewithal to scrutinize every MoU signed between different institutions.

The cabinet secretariat’s original order was issued to all ministries, departments including the HRD ministry on April 24. “It is advised that prior approval of the cabinet is required to be obtained by concerned ministries departments in all cases involving treatises, agreements and other important matter including MoUs to be signed by any agency with any foreign agency/country,” the circular said.
Finally some sense has dawned on various ministries.
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What exactly is the Cabinet Secretariat? Is it manned by officials who are dusting off some old rules and circulating or the circular just been drafted by the officials but the decision came form the elected - ministers or MPs?
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Carnegie Mellon University, India sign $2.4 million pact for fellowships to Indian students pursuing STEM doctorates
NEW YORK: Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) has signed a partnership with the government in India to provide support to outstanding students from India wanting to pursue doctorates in math, science and engineering at the university.

The agreement, for students on F1 visas, signed by CMU and India’s Science and Engineering Research Board, will provide $2.4 million in fellowships to deserving students from India, over the next five years. The fellowships will support a minimum of five Indian students each academic year, beginning in the fall of 2016.

CMU’s ties to India run deep, with 10 percent of the student body currently coming from the country. Forty-five current faculty members are of Indian origin, and the president of the university, Subra Suresh, was born and raised in Chennai and educated at IIT.

“We look forward to working with the board to develop the next great generation of scholars, scientists and engineers who will help address many of the 21st century human challenges,” Suresh said, in a statement.

“More than any other country on Earth, India is poised for significant growth in the coming years,” said Suresh, during his first official visit to India. “I think with Carnegie Mellon’s potential, and India’s huge global potential, there is opportunity.”

CMU recently hosted a massive gathering to a day-long meet on India on its campus, on July 4. Nearly 500 attendees gathered for ‘Integrated Intelligence: India,’ the largest gathering of Carnegie Mellon University alumni, parents and future students outside of the United States. At two panel discussions and a gala dinner, they traded ideas on smart cities, big data, and the promises and challenges of technology, according to a press release.

“In the next 10 years, a billion people in India are going to come online. And when a billion people come online, it’s going to be an event of planetary proportions,” said Lalitesh Katragadda, formerly Google’s country manager (products) in India.

Days before the CMU event, India’s prime minister Narenda Modi announced “Digital India Week,” calling for a digitally empowered society and knowledge-based economy. Weeks earlier, the prime minister announced an effort to build 100 smart cities.

One example would be Google Map Maker, created by Katragadda. Map Maker allows anyone to add geographical information to an interactive map. For example, all of Pakistan — including uncharted rural areas — was mapped by volunteers. Katragadda, who has a Ph.D. in robotics, carries with him a letter from the United Nations and the Pakistani military, which he received after Pakistan suffered floods in 2010.

“[The letter] says that of the 1.7 million people that were rescued in interior Pakistan, 800,000 would not have been rescued but for the maps that the users developed,” he said, at the meet on July 4.

Ramayya Krishnan, dean of CMU’s H. John Heinz III College and the William W. and Ruth F. Cooper Professor of Management Science and Information Systems, said that more than 400 million Indians are expected to migrate to cities over the next 30 years in search of economic opportunity. This is reflected in a worldwide movement to urbanization that affects every society on Earth.

The concept of smart cities boils down to people, said Anita Arjundas, managing director and CEO of Mahindra Lifespaces and president of its real estate sector.

Krishnan moderated the panel on smart cities, which also included panelists Sumit D. Chowdhury, founder of GAIA Smart Cities, and Devansh Jain, director of Inox Wind.

Natarajan Chandrasekaran, chief executive officer and managing director of Tata Consultancy Services, said that the combination of social media and speed of innovation is creating powerful technologies that are creating a proliferation of data.

“Facebook alone generates four times more data than the New York Stock Exchange every single day,” Chandrasekaran said. “And what will be the proliferation of data when the ‘Internet of Things’ comes will be even more exciting … There are so many applications for government and society. We can solve huge problems, such as in health care.”

Along with Chandrasekaran, the panelists included Banmali Agrawala, president and CEO of GE South Asia and parent of a current CMU student; Gary Fedder, associate dean for research for the College of Engineering and director of the Institute for Complex Engineered Systems; and Ponnurangam Kumaraguru, assistant professor of Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology.
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“Facebook alone generates four times more data than the New York Stock Exchange every single day,” Chandrasekaran said.
The fly in the ointment is the relative importance of facebook data vs. NYSE data. My guess is that facebook data can be discounted several orders of magnitude, say 1.0e6.
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Depends on what is important. Sex is a lot more important than money which is a mere tool towards sex.
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^^^with subra suresh ji at helm, everything is possible. :)
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VinodTK wrote:Carnegie Mellon University, India sign $2.4 million pact for fellowships to Indian students pursuing STEM doctorates
NEW YORK: Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) has signed a partnership with the government in India to provide support to outstanding students from India wanting to pursue doctorates in math, science and engineering at the university.

The agreement, for students on F1 visas, signed by CMU and India’s Science and Engineering Research Board, will provide $2.4 million in fellowships to deserving students from India, over the next five years. The fellowships will support a minimum of five Indian students each academic year, beginning in the fall of 2016.
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Along with Chandrasekaran, the panelists included Banmali Agrawala, president and CEO of GE South Asia and parent of a current CMU student; Gary Fedder, associate dean for research for the College of Engineering and director of the Institute for Complex Engineered Systems; and Ponnurangam Kumaraguru, assistant professor of Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology.
Wow! CMU has scored a major coup there.
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guru gow pala AKA Yak herder: touche.
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Per my madarssa math, that is ~ $96K/student/yr. Assume Overhead of 65%. What are CMU out-of-state fees I wonder? That can figure out how much direct funding per student (I am trying to see if there is any $$ there other than for the student - maybe travel to and fro? May be modeled on Fulbright - Bharaprakash? I presume this $$ is coming from GOI/desi entities? Much smarter use of $$ than funding a Chair.
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what where the chairs GoI funded earlier? or is this a first major funding?
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See CASI There must be some serious GOI interest there. Or maybe SeeAyyeh/Phord Phoundashun like all the other India Ishtudy Centars.
Founded in 1992, the Center for the Advanced Study of India at the University of Pennsylvania is the first research institution in the United States dedicated to the study of contemporary India. The Center for the Advanced Study of India provides funding and support to undergraduate and graduate students at the University of Pennsylvania to conduct independent research and volunteer internships in India.
They write some interesting stuff. Here is one done July 15 (quoting only the concluding part):
One thing is clear though in that microfinance is far from picture-perfect. We must ask ourselves where do the inefficiencies of microfinance lie. Are loan products falling short somewhere? Are we failing to understand the cultural and social aspects of these regions? Is perhaps the goal of microfinance (to end poverty) too grandiose and is there a need to streamline the mission? Or are there a lot of institutional errors at play here? Overindebtedness and credit risk may be the two biggest concerns but there are other factors that impede on microfinance’s success. In Banana Skins’ 2014 CSFI survey of microfinance risk, Facing Reality, it becomes quite apparent that the blame of microfinance’s shortcomings is not only in the hands of the borrowers but also the ones who provide the credit. In the Middle East, Northern African countries, and South Asian nations, political interference is one of the most growing concerns. The volatility of the political environment and security fragility in these regions are worsening the economy and creating pockets of instability within the microfinance sector. In addition, elected officials and political parties construct constraints that obstruct the true potential of microfinance practices. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, macro-economic risks are one of the main forces that deters the success of microfinance. Ultimately, though, creditors, investors, and other stakeholders from various regions fear how MFIs govern and manage their operations and how they oversee and strategize risk. Upon further analysis, it can be argued that all of these issues are byproducts of the fact that the microfinance market is oversaturated. It’s odd to think that this sector is “hot,” but a lot of financial institutions have seen these unique loan products with astronomical interest rates (~24% to even ~200% in some areas) as worthwhile ventures to invest in. As a result, corporations with larger capital reserves and greater outreach are pushing out small MFIs, requiring a lot of organizations to tweak and design credit requirements, loan products, interest rates, repayment structures, and other aspects of the like in more unreliable, riskier ways. Now the question arises, are these institutions actually working for the people or just working for the profits?

What are the next steps forward? Unfortunately, I don’t have any concrete solutions at the moment. One thing that comes to mind is perhaps it’s time to treat these low-income borrowers like actual free market consumers, which means providing them with more information about the products they are purchasing. These BoP individuals are in a way being force-fed the loans that are in front of them. Most of these people have not received proper education, let alone an understanding about how financial instruments work. Perhaps a nonprofit intermediary service is necessary to teach BoP consumers about the microfinance products that are available to them and help them choose the loans that work best for them. This may force a lot of MFIs and banks to alter their product designs more in favor with their clients so they can stay competitive. Another idea is to bolster the regulations behind these financial services. I am not too well-versed in the legal implications behind microfinance, but I’m assuming that fiduciary duties to BoP consumers are essentially nonexistent. Again, it is imperative that we treat these individuals like regular consumers and regulations should be created and enforced to protect their interests. At the core though, I think many microfinance institutions and financial corporations need a wake-up call. They need to remember who they are serving and why and reevaluate their missions accordingly.

Maybe there is a need to look into financial inclusion without the use of microfinance and dive into new practices. Emerging economies are leapfrogging anyways. For example, in India, there is very poor infrastructure for large-scale markets, but online e-commerce platforms such as Flipkart successfully serve millions daily. Thus, it’s not absurd to say that microfinance may no longer be as effective as it once was. With greater initiatives of development all around the world, perhaps it is time for microfinance to encounter some changes of its own. But for now, back to cranking out these models.
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And here it is for 73


HC asks IIT Roorkee to allow expelled students to appear in exams

I hope they don't fail or give CGPA below 5 deliberately. They should also be given Grace CGPA for 1000 years of tyranny.
The Uttarakhand high court on Wednesday asked the IIT Roorkee to allow 73 students to appear in the ongoing semester exams, providing interim relief to the petitioners who were expelled for poor performance.

In its order, the single-judge bench of Justice Sudhanshu Dhulia also sought a reply from the premier institute’s authorities on the matter, said Arvind Vashishtha, the counsel of the students.

On June 15, the institute had expelled 73 students including more than 62 students from various BTech programmes saying they had earned less than the required points on the CGPA scale.

In July, the students had filed a mercy petition for re-admission which rejected by the senate, apex body of the institute.

The lawyer said the petition in the high court was filed by 47 expelled students on Tuesday.

"Though there are a total 47 (expelled) students who had filed the petition before the court but relief after the verdict from the court would go in favour of all 73 students,” Vashishtha added.

IIT authorities, however, did not respond to the emails seeking their response
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Just for perspective ...sharing "about IIT" intro... from an upcoming event in Santa Clara..



ABOUT IITs:

“Put Harvard, MIT and Princeton together and you begin to get an idea of the status of this university in India.” – CBS- 60 MINUTES, “Imported from India” Lesley Stahl

“Have been extremely impressed…one of the leading universities in the world in the field of technology.” – Joe Biden, Vice President, USA

“IITs are world class institutes, and the impact of IIT has been worldwide. The computer industry has benefited greatly from the tradition of the IITs.” – Bill Gates, Founder Microsoft

“IIT is a world treasure.” – Jeff Bezos of Amazon

ABOUT IIT ALUMNI

“Graduates of the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) in the United States have made valuable and significant contributions to society in every profession and discipline. IIT graduates are highly committed and dedicated to research, innovation, and promotion of trade and international cooperation between India and the United States. The House of Representatives honors the economic innovation attributable to graduates of the Indian Institutes of Technology.” – House Resolution 227: House of Representatives, US.

“.. Have immense respect for the academic and humanitarian work carried out by the IIT alumni …” – President Bill Clinton

“The IIT culture has contributed much to the corporate and modern sector. IITians have ushered in a culture of getting things done.” – Amartya Sen, Nobel laureate

“Alumni from the five IITs together accounted for 122 computer science faculty in the top 50 American universities, second only to Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the top contributor with 127 faculty members” – Brown University study.

“IITs are ranked fourth (just ahead of Harvard) in a new ranking of the top 50 universities that have produced VC-backed founders.” – Pitch Book Data, a US-based private equity and VC research firm. August/Sept 2014

“Three IITians were on the Forbes list of ‘Richest People in America’.” – Forbes Magazine

Romesh Wadhwani and Vinod Khosla, both IITians, and their spouses became signatories to The Giving Pledge, agreeing to give 50% of their wealth to charity.
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Re: Indian Education System

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WRT AmberG's post, I have to say IIT's have been great...

For the USA...
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+1, if you take stats, and do a CBA.

we should consider QS and ARWU rankings as well.
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“Alumni from the five IITs together accounted for 122 computer science faculty in the top 50 American universities, second only to Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the top contributor with 127 faculty members” – Brown University study.
Is this something we should be happy about or feel bad for loosing all these guys to the US after having educated them here?

Mixed feelings onlee
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I would say we should be happy because they might have taken and did take several Indian students as their advisees in their research groups several of whom had gone back to India or are sending money or investing in Indian companies. By the way if one looks at other Engg. Areas too the situation would be similar.
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I agree
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