Bharat Rakshak

Dharmavir wrote:

Have their been any bloodbaths instigated by Christians against Hindus?

Ever heard of the Goan Inquisition?

Can we talk about today?

HariC wrote: Dude, i dont know your background (other than you are netsavvy and sitting in US), but please note that the net savvy, NRI / RI crowd who frequent this board (or any other board) form less than half percent of India's population and maybe even more. Your noble ideals does not make or represent the rest of rural and urban india's.

Come to UP, Come to MP, go to the villages and you will see how deep routed caste system is. This entire arguement of - "society is different from religion, hinduism is not to blame for casteism" is a fallacy. And oh yes, my circle of acquaintances will be no different from yours if you go back a generation and examine them in detail. .

umm i have had a paper a study in a UK university how caste system was used against us.....

See that is the problem the misery is due to misinterpretation, illiteracy and backwardness which is giving the EJ's a upper hand

If these NRI's constituted 80% of indian population do you think these EJ's would survive?

Hinduism is a vibrant philosophy, taking it to the peoples and peoples doing based on their tradition not religion has othing to do with religion.


dont mix religion with tradition, dowry is still prevalent in Bihar as defacto, is it prevalent in some south states as much?

Pulikeshi wrote: However, the scientific mindset of the acharyas that thought about and wrote the Vedas is never in questions. We have a duty to continue that quest - that is Bharat's Khoj

bang on! ... science today is more confused about the universe than it ever was ... TSJ way want to let Ed Witten know that he needs to think like a vedic rishi ...

HariC wrote: Have their been any bloodbaths instigated by Christians against Hindus?

Myriads, starting with the Portuguese under "Saint" Francis Xavier.

In more recent times, the North-East has seen such bloodbath, most notably against the Hindus of Meghalaya, Tripura and Manipur.

Most of those, as usual, were fomented by evanjihadis trying to prevent Hindus from celebrating their religious festivals.

Take off those blinders.

At the sametime you are equating a christian's non-belief in other religions to a man waving around his schlong in front of you?. To each his own.

Non-belief is different from disparaging other beliefs, which most evanjihadi Christians are wont to do.

Kindly refer to the original context of this discussion rather than arbitrarily pissing in the wind.

joey wrote:[


dont mix religion with tradition, dowry is still prevalent in Bihar as defacto, is it prevalent in some south states as much?

You will be surprised

S.Valkan wrote:[ this discussion rather than arbitrarily pissing in the wind.

hey my pissing is much better than the whining and shitting by others who believe hinduism is in trouble from christianity...

What an interesting discussion, certainly requires archive. I personally would like to thank Pulikeshi for the Rig Veda verses, Valkan for contradictions in the books of the Bible on the resurrection of Christ.

The Xtian and Islam faith both assert that non-believers will be consigned to hell. In other words one set of followers will end up in hell if any of them happen to be true. The rest are all consigned to hell.

Is it a requirement for someone to be in the “knowâ€

HariC wrote:What if an SC person wants to become a brahmin? Will hinduism allow it today?

Perhaps you aren't aware, but the Gaudiya Vaishnava sect does accept SCs as Brahmins, provided they follow the principles and abstentions of Vaishnava Dharma.

Their international wing, ISKCON, will confer the sacred thread to anyone after initiation.

There is really no prohibition. It is a matter of social prejudice, and the correction lies in the society one lives in.

You live among the Gaudiya Vaishnavas , you can surely be included in a Brahmin "varna" even if you were born into an SC "jati".

For your benefit, here's what Hindu scriptures say:

Janmanam Jayate Shudra

Samskarat Bhavet Dvija

Veda Pathat Bhavet Vipra

Brahman Janati iti Brahmana.

[ Tr: Everyone is BORN a Shudra. By good upbringing, one becomes a Twice-Born ( the second birth means the Upanayana or sacred thread ceremony). By learning the Vedas, one becomes a Learned Scholar. ONLY BY KNOWING THE ULTIMATE REALITY (BRAHMAN ) DOES ONE BECOME A BRAHMIN ]

Go figure.