Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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raji wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:There should'nt be any problems with statements like SM Krishna's. This is what diplomacy is, keeping a straight face while kicking your enemy in the balls & asking "Are you alright? Let me help.". But the problem is that the Indian GUBOrment is unlikely to follow these statements with a solid kick on the backside of the Pakis.

Added Later : Photochor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wciSG_3-x28
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You are absolutely right.

No one is objecting to friendly statements.

I am only objecting to not following up with a kick on the backside.

If you are incapable of administering a kick on the backside, it is wise then, to refrain from making overly friendly statements. Just makes you look like a wimp......
just look at the comments of porkis on this video ,they are getting crazy ,I wonder what is happening to them mentally after watching this video.
just one example"Sham on you Hindooos .. Sham on you Hindooos .. Sham on you Hindooos .. "
he's commenting on hindoos and not Indians,knowing that abdul Q retreated from India in 1947
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Sumit Ganguly, professor of Political Science at Indiana University, has said he never suggested that the Indians have purely humanitarian objectives in Afghanistan. He said that their vigorous attempts to limit Pakistan's reach and influence there stemmed largely from being systematically bled in Kashmir. In other words, Pakistan's apprehensions of security threats arising from India's increasing clout in Afghanistan are not baseless and the US also needs to address our concerns if it wants to commit our full support in war against terrorism
That they throttle the terrorists, and therefore terrorism, is known to all of us, now the Pakistanis are ALSO agreeing to the same.
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Iranian threats
Pookies jump! Pointers for India on how to deal with the pakis.

Pakistan vows to wipe out Jundullah: report
The report goes on to say Islamabad has ordered the group be disbanded and wiped out. The chief of the Iranian armed forces, General Hassan Firouzabadi, said Iran had located the base of the group and informed the Pakistani government of Abdulmalek Rigi’s position.
Pakistan’s interior ministry has presented all its information on Jundullah to the country’s intelligence services which include the ISI, MI and FIA. The ministry has also urged for the identification of group members and the immediate arrest of the ringleader Abdulmalek Rigi, according to FNA.
Tehran has warned Islamabad that it has the power and military means to trace and hunt down terrorist groups in Pakistan if such activity is not stopped by Pakistan.
Pookies know that if there is a group more dedicated and crazy enough to blowing themselves up in crowded markets than themselves, its the Iranians. The Persians will not hesitate to use any means including the Shias in pookistan to create havoc in Balochistan and Karachi. Hence, the pooki white flag. Because the SDRE Yindoos will not and can not do such things, the pookies keep giving India the middle finger.
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JI chief proposes anti-US bloc
Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Pakistan chief Munawar Hassan underlined the need of the formation a bloc of Pakistan, Iran, China and Afghanistan against the United States and NATO.
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Tehran has warned Islamabad that it has the power and military means to trace and hunt down terrorist groups in Pakistan if such activity is not stopped by Pakistan.
When will our netas start asserting themselves like this?
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Pak defence budget gets a 15.5 percent boost
Pakistan Government has decided to increase the defence budget by 15.5 percent for the upcoming financial year to 342 billion rupees.
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No idea whether this 6 month old story was ever posted.So here goes again.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/mick_smi ... .html#more
December 14, 2008
Pakistani General Murdered to Stop Him Naming Generals Who Shied Off Fighting the Taliban

General Amir Faisal Alavi, former Pakistani special forces commander, with General Bryan 'Doug' Brown, who was then head of US Special Operations Command

There is a remarkable story in today’s Sunday Times about how a former Pakistan special forces chief was murdered after alleging that senior generals were paying off Taliban leaders and refusing to fight the war on terror. Maj-Gen Amir Faisal Alavi, former head of the Special Services Group, the Pakistani equivalent of the SAS, was particularly angry about a deal with Baitullah Mahsud, suspected of being the mastermind behind the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. Alavi had repeatedly fought inside the Pakistan Army for change and his men had led the battle against the militants bravely but there were a small number of generals who were not only trying to prevent the army taking on the militants properly but in some cases were backing them.

Alavi was forced out of the Pakistan Army three years ago after clashing with the generals over their failure to take on the Taliban. He had openly complained of the problem, not just within the Pakistan Army high command but during a visit to the SAS headquarters outside Hereford. The then SAS commanding officer told the author Carey Schofield, a friend of Alavi’s, that the SSG commander had been brutally honest about the problems with a minority within the Pakistan Army. “Alavi was a straight-talking soldier and some pretty robust conversations took place,” he said. “He knew Pakistan was not pulling its weight in the war on terror. There was a dampening effect, he said, between Army orders and their execution.”

But while Alavi was visiting Hereford, his enemies in Pakistan acted against him, concocting a bizarre plot to force him out of the army. In a letter to the Pakistan Army Chief of Staff Gen Ashfaq Kayani, Alavi told him theygot rid of him “to hide their own involvement in a matter they knew I was privy to”. He added: “They felt vulnerable and therefore spun this mischievous and deceitful plot,” he said, promising that if Kayani would only set up an inquiry into the whole affair he would be able to “furnish all relevant proof/information, which is readily available to me.”

Carey Schofield, who had interviewed Alavi extensively for a book on the Pakistan Army, describes in the Sunday Times article how Alavi showed her a print-out of the letter. “I folded up the letter and handed it back to him. ‘Don’t send it,’ I said. He replied that he had known I would talk him out of it so he had sent it already. ‘But’, he added, ‘I want you to keep this and publish it if anything happens to me.’ A few weeks later, she asked him if there was any response. “It hasn’t worked,” he said. “They’ll shoot me."

On November 19, as he was being driven through the outskirts of Islamabad, a Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4 drove across the path of his car and gunmen shot dead both Alavi and his driver. It was soon blamed on the militants, but the killers used 9mm pistols of the type issued to the army and they were far more clinical than the militants. The attack bore all the hallmarks of a professional hit. Certainly many army officers believed it was a professional killing and elements in the army were behind it.

This is not just an internal matter for Pakistan of course. The deals with the Taliban allowed them to get on with causing trouble for British troops and their allies inside Afghanistan, where - as we have seen all too clearly this week - British troops are dying. The deal with Baitullah Mahsud is particularly troubling. He was described earlier this year by the respected International Institute for Strategic Studies as the most dangerous terrorist in the world, more dangerous even than Osama bin Laden. There have since been claims he was killed – denied by the Taliban and more likely to be an attempt by western agencies to flush him out. The IISS said that not only was he suspected of masterminding Benazir Bhutto’s death, he also tried to mount terrorist attacks in Britain and Spain.

I have the names of the two generals accused by Alavi. I am not alone of course. Carey Schofield obviously has them and they are known to a number of people in Washington and London. Presumably, Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari would like to know who is being accused of complicity in a deal with the man who is a key suspect in his wife’s murder. If he is then I would be happy to provide them but then of course he need only ask Gen Kayani for them, presumably he still has the letter on file.
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Philip: I posted a follow on story from the paki news international. They claimed to have arrested "ex-members" of the LeT.
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Iran says it can hunt down Jundullah inside TSP if TSP does not

The Ummah brother is quite unhappy with the Fortress of Islam, the Land of the Purest. Allah-o-Akbar only.
Tehran has warned Islamabad that it has the power and military means to trace and hunt down terrorist groups in Pakistan if such activity is not stopped by Pakistan.
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Pakistan Marches On in Bastion of Taliban

The "Bastion" was a Pakistani creation. Now the Pakistanis are trying to destroy what they created and nurtured!!!

And, of course, has convinced the West that Pakistan is the solution. And, of course, the West believes them too, nothing new there.
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Iran has never had brilliant relationships with TSP , all the more need for us to engage furthur (if only their relation with US was better)
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Grou ... 605200.cms
MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan: Suspected militants armed with rockets, grenades and automatic weapons abducted some 400 students, staff and relatives driving away from a boy's school in a troubled tribal region in northwest Pakistan on Monday, police and a witness said
I mean this is not easy to abduct 400 people, this would need lots of trucks/buses etc. BTW another case of trying to create human shield.
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Pakistan police negotiate to free Taliban hostages
MIRAN SHAH, Pakistan (AP) _ Suspected militants armed with rockets, grenades and automatic weapons abducted some 400 students, staff and relatives driving away from a boy's school in a troubled tribal region in northwest Pakistan on Monday, police and a witness said.

The brazen abduction came amid rising militant violence in Pakistan's tribal belt _ actions the military says are aimed at distracting it from its offensive against the Taliban in the nearby Swat Valley.

Details were still emerging Monday about the nature of the attack. No group immediately claimed responsibility.

Police official Meer Sardar said the abduction occurred about 20 miles (30 kilometers) from Razmak Cadet College in North Waziristan tribal area. The people were leaving the school area after they were warned to get out in a phone call from a man they believed to be a political official, Sardar said, citing accounts from a group of 17 who managed to get away.


Around 30 buses, cars and other vehicles were carrying the students, staff and others when they were stopped along the road by a large group of alleged militants in their own vehicles.
Cadet colleges in Pakistan are usually run by retired military officers and educate teenagers. They also typically provide room and board.

Dumb kufars, don't they understand that all this is a part of 'Cadet' curriculum...we teach them the art of throwing towels and downhill skying very early onlee :twisted:
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Targeting military linked schools seem to be the flavour of the week. This was datelined yesterday:

Admin officer killed in attack on Hangu Army Public School
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Robert Gates, President Barack Obama’s defence secretary, met with his Japanese and South Korean counterparts to reaffirm America’s commitment to defending its East Asian allies. In something short of an endorsement of the six-party process and earlier American-led negotiations, Mr Gates said that "everyone in the room is familiar with the tactics that the North Koreans use. They create a crisis and the rest of us pay a price to return to the status quo ante." The United States was now “tired of buying the same horse twice.”
Hmmm. One would think Sri Gates would have wizened up to Pak tactics by now then, no?
Accepting the North as a nuclear-weapons state was, he said, out of the question. He said there must be other ways to get North Korea to change its approach. In Singapore no one appeared to know what they might be.
NoKo's nukes are unacceptable but Pak's nooks are? Pray, why?


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vsudhir wrote:
NoKo's nukes are unacceptable but Pak's nooks are? Pray, why?


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Elementary dear Watson. TSP's nukes are for SDRE only. Without TSP nukes, its nuke blackmail, its calibrated use of terror against India, where is the leverage on India? TSP has pegged its nukes on India; India disarms, we disarm they say; with no pretense even that they are a global player unlike India. And there is not even a whiff of protests to this diabolical charade from the eunuch Indian govt and strategic establishment. From a cost/benefit analsyis does this not suit US just fine? India needs a game changer; Once Taliban and/or so called Al Queda get hold of a few TSP nukes, it could be a game changer.
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400 students and kin abducted by militants, Pakistan police say (CNN)
... after a ceremony marking the last day of school, a police official told CNN.
The abduction took place in North Waziristan...
The militants seized more than 30 vehicles carrying 443 students and their relatives...
... 22 students in two vehicles managed to escape...
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Spread the love around, you say. Americans know that the Islamic bomb has Uncle Sam's name on it. There is no need for al-Qaida to physically posses one. The fine distinctions are to humour Joe public. All who need to know, know who is blackmailing whom.

America is no more a sucker than is India-it is blackmailed as readily, only that it has the cash to buy some time. That is all.
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For Pakistan, or for Islam? (Guardian UK)
As Pakistan wastes away in its existential crisis, a fundamental question about the nature of the country is coming to the fore: are its citizens Pakistanis who happen to be Muslims, or are they Muslims who happen to be Pakistanis? Which comes first, flag or faith?

It is not a question that many Pakistanis can readily answer. The vast majority of the country's so-called "educated elite" seem to have no qualms about identifying themselves as Muslims first and Pakistanis second.
This willingness to subordinate state to God, even among the highly educated, lies at the heart of Pakistan's crisis.
Back in the heady days of the 1940s, Muhammad Ali Jinnah rallied a people to nationhood ... today, an erudite, westernised lawyer like Jinnah would find it impossible to win a popular election in Pakistan.
The modern Pakistani identity is shaped largely by the negation of an Indian-Hindu identity and the adoption of a global pan-Islamic charter. Economic advancement is taken to mean westernisation or worse, Indianisation.
Pakistan's fear of vilification and failure has given birth to an increasingly paranoid brand of Islam that seeks to impose stricter controls – on education, women's rights, dancing, beardlessness, and sex – and close society to all forms of modernity.
Pakistan's selfhood must be expanded ad maximum and made so capacious that it accommodates its Punjabis, Sindhis, Pathans and Balochis, and their religions – Sunni, Shia, Hindu, Christian, Parsi, Qadhianis – until it is possible to call them all equally "Pakistani". That must be the ultimate goal, and step one in the long, winding battle to save Pakistan.
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Prosecutors: College student was budding terrorist (AP)
ATLANTA (AP) — A former Georgia Tech student was a budding terrorist who took choppy videos of potential targets in Washington, D.C., hoped to join the Taliban and desperately tried to prove himself to jihadist groups overseas, prosecutors said Monday.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert McBurney argued Syed Haris Ahmed, 24, was "one step removed from the bomb-throwers" and bought a one-way ticket to Pakistan in hopes he could join the Taliban. Monday marked the beginning of Ahmed's federal trial on charges he conspired to aid a terrorist group. He faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
... Ahmed, a U.S. citizen born in Pakistan ...
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Pakistan too seeks role in Afghanistan (Hindu)
SINGAPORE: Pakistan on Sunday offered to play a constructive role in Afghanistan. The international community should “allow” Islamabad to do so, said Pakistan’s Defence Secretary Syed Athar Ali at the Asian Security Summit here.
"... There will be a positive effect on the [Afghan] society in case Pakistan is allowed to play its role, which it can play effectively.”
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CIA-Petraeus Incoherence on Pakistan? (The Independent)
Although U.S. Special Operations teams are on continuous alert on the Afghan side of the border, the Obama administration has not authorized any ground operations in Pakistan, and the military is divided over their advisability.

We ask all the time,” said a military official who favors such raids. “They say, ‘Now is not a good time.’ ”
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400 Little Talibs Missing from BRF, believed abducted by Aliens or by Admins
"They were last seen over a week ago, peacefully studying the HoKo, Capric Anatomy and the great scientific text, IEDs4Dumbbells, as well as reciting the Pakistani AlfaBet", said Abdul Enqyoob, former Toilet Cleaner who sells newspapers outside the BRF Moderators Palace. "We fear the worst" he sobbed :((
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While pakistani forces are capturing talibani strongholds in swat one by one (as advertised in media ), it's a puzzle where those talibani would be running away ? In pakistan or in afghanistan.?
There is also a sudden drop in predator strikes as if nato doesn't want to or is not serious enough to strike the terrorists that may be running towards the afghanistan border?It may be because most of the talibanis are running inside the pakistani territory,the current trend of terror strikes show this(which isi wants west to understand)
or something else is cooking?
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Christine Fair of Rand writes in WaPo:

Pak Aid Must Be Transparent, Accountable
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As predicted and expected , Ghazwa e Pakisatan has started by the Freedome Fighters Wearing Black . No Pakjabis Kaffir Bharwa will be able to stop this Ghajwa .
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Sanjay M wrote:Christine Fair of Rand writes in WaPo:

Pak Aid Must Be Transparent, Accountable
U.S. taxpayers should get value for their investment.
Well, they invested in the Taliban in the 80s-90s, and boy, are they getting "value" for that one now. Time to invest more, I guess.
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anupmisra wrote:Iranian threats
Pookies jump! Pointers for India on how to deal with the pakis.

Pookies know that if there is a group more dedicated and crazy enough to blowing themselves up in crowded markets than themselves, its the Iranians. The Persians will not hesitate to use any means including the Shias in pookistan to create havoc in Balochistan and Karachi. Hence, the pooki white flag. Because the SDRE Yindoos will not and can not do such things, the pookies keep giving India the middle finger.
There is no need for Indians to follow this truly idiotic, fanatic behavior.

India has had a great deal of success in some respects. And, IMHO could have even more if it were not for some external forces - forces that do not do anything and do not allow India to do the needful. However, having said that, there is a seed of truth that India has not some things that she can do to improve the situation in areas where outsiders will not interfere.
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Taliban Seizes Convoy of Pakistan Cadets
As many as several hundred students and teachers were reported missing from a convoy that was ferrying them through a Taliban stronghold.
More stockholm syndromes in the making, I guess.... wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if a good lot of these students end up in the Taliban actually.
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Reports: Pak pilots carry out all 3,000 missions in eelam war
SLAF Air Chief Marshal Roshan Goonetilike Sunday denied Pakistani media reports that some of the missions against the LTTE had been carried out by Pakistan Air Force pilots.

"There is absolutely no truth in this claim," Goonetilike told The Island Sunday. Responding to our queries, he said that during Eelam war IV the SLAF had conducted over 3,000 missions against some 1,900 targets in the northern and eastern theatres over the past three years.
Military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara told The Island that there was no truth in reports that Sri Lanka had acquired 22 Al Khalid main battle tanks built in Pakistan. He said that the army had acquired only Czechoslovakian built T-55 main battle tanks apart from Chinese and Russian armoured fighting vehicles and armoured personnel carriers.

According to Pakistan media reports, Al Khalid had played a critical role in the war against the LTTE.

A spokesman for the Armoured Corps told The Island that all they had acquired to fight the LTTE would be displayed on Wednesday (June 3) at a joint armed forces parade at Galle Face to mark the end of 30-year war. "I can assure you that there will be no Al Khalids," he said.
Sources dismissed reports that Pakistan armed forces officers had been involved in planning Sri Lanka’s successful war against the LTTE.

India had radar operators on a permanent basis to run stations at Palavi, Vavuniya, China Bay and Katunayake, while Chinese personnel had periodically visited the radar station at Mirigama set up by China, sources said.
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Sanjay M wrote:Christine Fair of Rand writes in WaPo:

Pak Aid Must Be Transparent, Accountable
Christine fair likes the TFTA Pakis; if you recall she played to their galleries providing fuel to their paranoia that Indians are supporting Balochis through Afghan consulates. Thus, TSP will be very very satisfied with what Christine is saying because there is no mention of terror against India as a condition for moolah. Thats all TSP needs to be compliant.
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To be honest CRS, do we know enough to say that India is absolutely not involved in Balochistan? I don't see a problem with India being involved. All that it shows me is that we have some thinking heads and perhaps which is why our country is still in one piece. They are attacking us from all sides - TSP directly, through Nepalese maoists from the north, Chinese supported ULFA and Bangladesh based terrorists from the east. Our provinces have different languages, different cultures, we have internal stresses but still they have not succeeded after all these decades. And these are some major world powers we are up against.
Yes, we are in Afghanistan, and I sure hope we are big time in Balochistan, and in any-stan possible that can let us encircle our enemies.
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TTP's strength
Commanders who lead bands of Taliban marauders in other agencies are: Hakimullah (Orakzai and Kurram with 8,000 men), Rehmanullah and Hazrat Ali (Khyber, 1,200), Umar Khalid (Mohmand, 5,000), and Faqir Muhammad (Bajaur, 5,000). Baitullah himself is estimated to dispose of 30,000 warriors, supplemented with Tahir Yuldashev’s 4,000 Uzbeks and other “foreigners”. The TTP could have nearly 50,000 men at its disposal. If you also count the non-Baitullah Taliban, the total estimate comes to over 100,000.

According to some estimates, Baitullah could have in his kitty around Rs 4 billion to spend annually. This money comes from drugs facilitated by Al Qaeda contacts, Arab money from the Gulf, money made from kidnapping for ransom, looting of banks, smuggling and “protection money” in general. He has weapons produced in Russia, the US and India, and has been looting explosives produced at the Wah munitions factory. His strength has been built up during a period of benign neglect in Islamabad
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From this,
The military has deployed only 15,000 men in Swat, and most of those may soon be moved into South Waziristan, which has been designated as the theater for the next Army-Taliban clash.
The Taliban will then re-appear in Swat. Operations Rah-e-Haq 1, 2 and 3 earlier and other operations in Peshawar went the same way.
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From DNA’s June 01, 2009 edition.

Brahma Chellaney draws parallels between the Nuclear proliferation risk posed by North Korea (DPRK) and that posed by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan besides clandestine links between the two and the similar strategy of both countries to threaten state collapse for the purpose of extorting concessions.

Excerpts :
Islamabad and Pyongyang in the past have clandestinely bartered Pakistani uranium-enrichment knowhow for North Korean missile technology. ………………
For these two dissimilar yet militaristic nations, potential state failure actually serves as an incentive to extort ransom money internationally. Both have assiduously sought to leverage their weakness into strength diplomatically, with Pakistan more successful than North Korea. “We’ll fail if you don’t come to our support” is their refrain. That is another way of saying: “Pay up or face the consequences.” ……………….
If Islamabad can play nuclear poker to shield its export of terrorism and still get rewarded with $23.6 billion in international aid commitments just in the last six months, Pyongyang reckoned it could stage its own nuclear show to draw the world’s attention.

When Pakistan rakes in a windfall by threatening to become a failed state, North Korea can hardly be faulted for using the same menace to collect some small change. …………….
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Nuclear nightmare
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Spy Chips guiding CIA drone strikes, locals say
It sounds like a tinfoil hat nightmare, come to life: tiny electronic homing beacons, guiding CIA killer drones to their targets. But local residents and Taliban militants in Pakistan’s tribal wildlands say that’s exactly what’s happening. Tribesman in Waziristan are being paid to “plant the electronic devices” near militant safehouses, they tell the Guardian. “Hours or days later, a drone, guided by the signal from the chip, destroys the building with a salvo of missiles.”
Naturally the Agency isn't confirming or denying anything, but it is going to make the different Talibunnie groups extremely wary of their handlers and vice versa.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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Pak's own "Exodus".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 93513.html

In Pakistan, an exodus that is beyond biblical

Locals sell all they have to help millions displaced by battles with the Taliban

By Andrew Buncombe
The language was already biblical; now the scale of what is happening matches it. The exodus of people forced from their homes in Pakistan's Swat Valley and elsewhere in the country's north-west may be as high as 2.4 million, aid officials say. Around the world, only a handful of war-spoiled countries – Sudan, Iraq, Colombia – have larger numbers of internal refugees. The speed of the displacement at its height – up to 85,000 people a day – was matched only during the 1994 genocide in Rwanda. This is now one of the biggest sudden refugee crises the world has ever seen.

Until now, the worst of the problem has been kept largely out of sight. Of the total displaced by the military's operations against the Taliban – the army yesterday claimed a crucial breakthrough, taking control of the Swat Valley's main town, Mingora – just 200,000 people have been forced to live in the makeshift tent camps dotted around the southern fringe of the conflict zone. The vast majority were taken in by relatives, extended family members and local people wanting to help.

But this grassroots sense of charity is slowly starting to show real strain. In a week when the relentless danger of the militants was underlined by a massive car bomb in the city of Lahore that killed at least 30 people and injured hundreds more, aid groups have warned that the communities taking people in – already some of the planet's poorest people – could themselves be displaced as they desperately sell their few assets to help the homeless.

In these "homestay" situations, some that exist purely because of tribal links between the displaced and those opening their doors, anywhere from 10 to 15 people are crowded into one room. A single latrine is shared by, on average, 35 people. Aid groups have called for a large and immediate injection of funds to help these host families who have stood forward to help those with nothing.

Graham Strong, the country director of the charity World Vision, said: "Families have provided refuge for up to 90 per cent of those escaping the fighting. They are sharing their homes, food, clothes and water. They are poor already and are making themselves poorer in the process. As the disaster continues, hosts are having to sell their land, cattle and other assets at far less than the market value to keep providing for their guests. The cultural ethic of generosity and hospitality means hosts are now facing the agonising choice between asking guests to leave and becoming destitute and displaced themselves."

Among those facing possible destitution as a result of his kindness is Rizwan Ali, 59, who lives in a village in the Buner district – another of the areas from which the military has been involved in a major operation against militants. When he heard about the countless people from nearby villages being forced to flee, he sent a truck to collect them. Now he shares his home with 37 strangers.

Confronted with this massive influx, Mr Ali – not his real name – has already sold a portion of his land to meet the additional burden. He has watched as other villagers, taking people in, have been pushed to the brink of impoverishment. He says they now face having to ask their guests to leave – something he would be loathe to do.

"It would be easier to die than to ask displaced people to leave for the camps. It will be heartbreaking and will feel as though the earth has caved in on us," said Mr Ali, who is already helping to look after the newborn baby of his daughter-in-law, who died in childbirth. "I'm exhausted, we have to play so many roles – host, provider, security, breadwinner," he told aid workers.

Confronted by such circumstances, many of the host families of Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) have been selling cattle at a mere fraction of their normal value to raise funds. Others are pawning gold and jewellery for as little as 5 per cent of what it would usually generate. Certainly, those who arrived came with nothing, depending entirely on the generosity of their hosts.

"Our host has done a beautiful thing in taking us in and providing for us," said one man staying at Mr Ali's house. "He has given us food and shelter but most of all he has given us our dignity."

One man, aged 90, said that because there had been no warning to leave, when the gunfire erupted around them they gathered what they could carry and fled. "Many of us didn't even have any shoes. We walked [13 miles] on mountain paths. It took the whole day," he said.

Another of those staying with Mr Ali is 12-year-old Saima. "I don't know where my friends are. We were separated when we left," said the young girl, who is helping to care for the household's newborn baby. "It was scary when we ran. It was like my heart was beating in my feet as we ran. There was a time I couldn't walk another inch because of ulcers under my feet, but the fear kept us going somehow."

For all the humanitarian problems that the military operation against the Taliban has created, the Pakistani army and the government of Asif Ali Zardari believe they have no alternative but to carry on and try to crush the militants, who had taken control of several areas barely 60 miles from Islamabad. Under considerable international pressure, the military launched the operations earlier this month after a controversial ceasefire deal – under which the government allowed the operation of Islamic law, or sharia, in parts of the Swat Valley and elsewhere – fell apart.

The military claimed a strategic victory yesterday, saying it had taken control of almost all of Mingora. While troops were still meeting pockets of resistance on the outskirts of the town, Mingora itself was under the full control of the military, said a spokesman, Maj- Gen Athar Abbas. "As far as Mingora city, security forces have taken over," he said. "There are still pockets of resistance. They are on the periphery of Mingora city."

In addition to the humanitarian problem, of course, the military operation – which it claims has so far killed anywhere up to 1,100 militants – has already apparently led the Taliban into revenge attacks. After militants launched a gun and bomb attack on police and intelligence offices in Lahore last week, a spokesman for Baitullah Mehsud, one of the senior Taliban leaders, claimed responsibility and said the devastating attack – the third major incident in the Punjabi capital this year – had been carried out in response to what has been happening in Swat. The Taliban also threatened more attacks, raising the prospect of a fresh wave of suicide attacks in Pakistan's major cities. The following day, at least 14 people were killed in suicide bombings in Peshawar.

Hakimullah Mehsud, a commander loyal to his namesake, told reporters: "We have achieved our target. We were looking at this target for a long time. It was a reaction to the Swat operation. We want the people of Lahore, Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Multan to leave those cities as we plan major attacks against government facilities in coming days."

Yesterday, Pakistan's Prime Minister, Yousuf Gilani, defended the decision to launch the offensive, saying that the authorities had no genuine alternative.

"The very existence of Pakistan was at stake. We had to start the operation," he said. While speaking to workers at state-owned Pakistan Television, Mr Gilani also promised payments of cash to help the hundreds of thousands of people forced from their homes, as well as a massive reconstruction.

Such words, had they learned of them, would have been welcome to Rizwan Ali and the 37 people – strangers until this military operation began – squeezed into his home.
PS:Time for Pak to ask Lankan pres.Rajapakse for his guidance in defetaing the Taliban!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 16 2009

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For those who do not or can not step into LMU campus, I am posting a link to the latest pakistani calendar (PDF document). Credit goes to hnair.
Warning: if you are the serious kind and/or do not care for pinglish, do not click the link.
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