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Somali pirates set up "agencies" on three continents
From Tuesday, Dec. 9, at least four British, French and Greek warships, two reconnaissance planes and 150 marines will escort merchant ships sailing through the Gulf of Aden and Horn of Africa waters. This force will expand to 6 naval vessels, 3 aircraft and 1,000 marines.

But meanwhile, DEBKAfile's military and counter-terrors sources report, the pirates have set up a land-based intelligence-financial-logistic logistic network in the Persian Gulf, East Africa and… northern Europe.

Royal Navy Rear Adm. Phillip Jones will oversee the EU mission from the RAF Northwood base in the UK, while Greek Commodore Antonios Papaioannou will be on-the-spot commander.

The EU force will coordinate its operations with US, Russian, Indian and Malaysian naval units in the region, although their rules of engagement are not uniform.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 373, revealed on Nov. 21, information turned up by the US Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet intelligence that the Somali pirates had organized their traffic on business lines by establishing a sort of "back office" in Abu Dhabi.

It is run by money changers earning a rake-off on ransom payments as the pirates' agents. They have since established similar "agencies" in Mombasa, Kenya; Piraeus, Greece; Naples, Italy; and Rotterdam, Netherlands, which work through spies at shipping and marine insurance firms.

Here is how the system works, according to DEBKAfile's exclusive sources: The pirates' undercover agents gather information from their shipping contacts in Gulf, East African and European ports on the merchant vessels heading for the Gulf of Aden, the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean and the cargoes. They brief the pirates on the presence of security guards and weapons available for the crew aboard the vessel.

The pirates are always on the lookout for “special cargoes”, meaning smuggled goods or merchandise exported illegally or contrary to international law, such as clandestine weapons shipments.

Such consignments, like that of the Ukrainian MV Faina, which carried a large unregistered cargo of 33 T-72 tanks and other armaments - and is still held - increase the ransom value of the vessel and pay more than routine freights.

The pirates also use their proxies to negotiate ransoms and terms for releasing the hijacked vessels, rather than exposing themselves and their locations. These front men also go shopping for the latest word in speed boats, navigation equipment, GPS, communications gear, food, fuel and other supplies.

DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources report that the pirates' logistics and intelligence are far superior to that of the European counter-terror operation. This gap seriously detracts from the international patrol fleet's prospects of getting to grips with the pirates, who have attacked more than 90 vessels this year and successfully seized more than 36 on the world's busiest shipping lanes.

Military sources: 100 million Israeli shekels Barak approved for Gaza will feed Hamas war chest
Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak ordered the 100 million Israeli shekels in currency bills (equivalent to $25.6 million) to be transferred by Israeli armored cars to the Gaza Strip via the West Bank Wednesday, Dec. 10. He bowed to appeals from Palestinian prime minister Salam Fayad and the governor of the Bank of Israel Stanley Fischer. The latter was concerned by complaints from the World Bank that Gaza's banks were closing their doors for lack of cash and the Hamas administration was unable to cover its payroll.

Military sources told DEBKAfile: This is a repeat performance of Hamas' fuel scam.

This is how it works: Hamas hoards high-quality fuel from Israel in secret emergency stores ready for use by its military units against an Israeli incursion of the Gaza Strip.

Israeli fuel supplies thus support Hamas' war against Israel.

Meanwhile, Hamas tunnels from Egyptian Sinai are used to smuggle low quality diesel fuel, estimated at 1 million liters a week, which is sold to the population at top prices for cash.

Neither the Egyptian nor the Israeli authorities lift a finger to stop this nefarious traffic.

When Palestinian missile attacks escalate and Israel suspends its fuel supplies through the Gaza crossings, Hamas stages power outages for the benefit of the world media to show how Israel is starving the Palestinians of the energy needed for running Gaza's hospitals and power stations.

The shekel shortage is another piece of theater directed by Hamas in the certainty that Israel's defense leaders will bow to outside pressure and deliver.

By the same token, the Palestinian extremists were certain that nothing would come of the special discussion held Wednesday by prime minister Ehud Olmert, foreign minister Tzipi Livni, Barak, military officials and intelligence directors on whether to extend the six-month "ceasefire" when it expires on Dec. 16. The conference was planned as a serious review of the options for dealing with the incessant Palestinian missile blitz – more than 200 fired in less than a month, including four Grad Katyusha rockets – and the state of play between Gaza and the West Bank.

The defense minister chose to wave the missile assault aside and wave through a resupply of cash for Hamas' war chest on the same day as this critical discussion.

DEBKAfile's political sources report that Barak's purpose was to humiliate Livni – as Labor and Kadima leaders they head rival parties facing a general election. Livni has taken the position that passivity is no answer for the Hamas offensive and a substantial Israeli military response can no longer be avoided.
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Hamas is continuing to stock up and is reportedly using a delaying tactic to finish building its tunnels and secret network of bunkers and tunnels as well as galleys, which allows them to transport eqpt in and out of the strip without israeli uav's being able to view it, it will also be able to withstand israeli bombardment.

Hamas has formed a supreme war council focused on israel, consisting of the same commanders who took over the gaza strip.
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Oman for Pakistan dismantling terror infrastructure
Sandeep Dikshit

Foreign Minister of Oman on visit to India

NEW DELHI: Foreign Minister of Oman Yusuf Bin Alawai Bin Abdullah, on the first high level visit from a Gulf country after the Mumbai terror strikes, was informed by New Delhi the need for Pakistan to move beyond assurances to firm action against the perpetrators of the attack.

India enjoys a very comfortable relationship with Oman, which has a large Indian expatriate population. The two countries match views on several international issues; Oman readily offers berthing facilities for Indian warships visiting the region; and the two have a multi-million dollar joint venture. This was the reason why Indian was looking forward to this visit while discouraging offers by senior government members from at least two Gulf countries whose views, India believes, are not completely in synchronisation with New Delhi’s conviction that Pakistan must start cracking down on masterminds of terrorist attacks as a prelude to improving bilateral ties.

Mr. Bin-Abdullah, during his interaction with External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, expressed condolences at the loss of lives in the Mumbai terror attacks and noted that there could be no excuse for not dismantling the infrastructure of terrorism across the Indian border.

Mr. Mukherjee recalled with appreciation the telephonic call made by Mr. Bin-Abdullah soon after the Mumbai attacks and apprised him of the results of the ongoing investigation, which, he said, clearly pointed to the complicity of elements in Pakistan. Referring to the demarche made to Pakistan on December 1, asking Islamabad to honour the commitments made on several occasions of not allowing Pakistani territory to be used for terrorist attacks against India, Mr. Mukherjee stressed that it was time for action, not words by Islamabad.

Both leaders reviewed bilateral relations, noting that trade had increased to $1.8 billion last year and continued to maintain buoyancy. They agreed to strengthen ties further, especially in energy, petrochemicals, IT and joint investments. Mr. Bin-Abdullah also met Minister of State for External Affairs E. Ahamed and National Security Advisor M.K. Narayanan.
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DNW:
Turkey Joins Mid East Nuclear Arms Race
If Iran Can, So Can We
Ankara believes it lags only three years behind Tehran thanks to a head start from early dealings with the Pakistani nuclear smuggler A. Q. Khan and years of trafficking with former Soviet block nuclear traffickers.
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Israel air strikes kill 140 in Hamas Gaza compounds. Israel will expand operation if needed
Sources in Gaza report at least 140 killed, 200 injured by waves of Israel Israeli Air Force planes which destroyed Hamas security headquarters in Gaza City, as well compounds, police stations and ports across the Gaza Strip. Several Hamas commanders were killed in the bombardment of a Hamas military passing-out ceremony. Among them was a police chief Tawfiq Jabber.

Hamas and other Palestinian factions have ordered its "fighters to avenge Israeli attacks."

The Israeli military spokesman said the Gaza operation is "just beginning." An Israeli official said all Air Force planes had returned safely to base but the operation carried out in response to Palestinian terrorist attacks would be expanded and intensified if needed.

Defense minister Ehud Barak has placed Sderot and locations surrounding the Gaza Strip on an emergency footing.

The Israeli air attack launching some 30 missiles began 11.00 a.m. local time Saturday, Dec. 27, eight days after Hamas terminated the informal Gaza ceasefire by showering missiles and mortar rounds on Israel day by day.

Last week, the Israeli cabinet gave the Israeli military the green light for reprisals as Palestinian missile attacks escalated, 13 mortar rounds fired Friday, when Israel allowed 90 trucks of food and medicines to cross into the Gaza Strip.
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Hope our "leaders" notice this and drown themselves in the nearest water-body!!!

Notice the massive retaliation for just a few rockets whereas we continue meekly bleating to all and sundry to tap pak on the wrists for sending a SF style team to creat mayhem in our financial capital...
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official Indian response

Stop using force in Gaza Strip, India tells Israel


India tonight called for an immediate end to the use of force by Israel against Palestinian civilians in Gaza strip, which has led to a large number of casualties there.

"The government of India has been closely monitoring developments that have been unfolding in Gaza strip. While India is aware of cross-border provocations resulting from rocket attacks particularly against targets in southern Israel, it urges an immediate end to use of force against Palestinian civilians in Gaza strip that has resulted in large number of casualties", External Affairs Ministry spokesman Vishnu [Images] Prakash said.

"India hopes that the ongoing efforts within the region to restore peace would be supported," he said.


Real Indian Response from a commentrator

A message to Israelis...
by P Zipk on Dec 27, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink | Hide replies

Please ignore the official Indian message. It was issues by a bunch of cowards who would sell their mothers in order to keep hanging on to the power.

We the people of India salute you for your bravery and we are behind you 100%. You are doing what needs to be done to survive in their cruel and crazy world and we Indians are too stupid to understand that!
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Hamas misled, surprised by Israeli air offensive
In an air offensive dubbed "Cast Lead," Saturday, Dec. 27, some 150 Israeli bombers and helicopters struck 100 targets, destroying dozens of Hamas military compounds across the Gaza Strip in reprisal for the Palestinian long-term missile blitz.

The operation had two elements of surprise:

1. Media reports emanating from official sources in Jerusalem Friday, Dec. 25, conveyed the impression that the major military operation approved by the Israeli cabinet had been called off for the time being, at least until the cabinet reconvened for a reassessment.

2. Egypt misled Hamas, reporting reliable information that Israeli would not strike on Saturday, its Sabbath Day.

Some Hamas commanders and operatives felt safe enough to come out of their hideouts in the tunnels and bunkers under Gaza – estimated at 80 km long - and hold a graduation ceremony on the parade ground at their command headquarters in Gaza City. The Israeli air strike there accounted for the largest number of casualties.

The other 40 air raids destroyed Hamas installations across the enclave. The casualty toll Saturday afternoon was 154 dead and 270 injured, some civilians. According to DEBKAfile's military sources, the bulk of Hamas strength escaped harm. They played it safe and stayed underground, also guarding their long-range missile and rocket arsenal.

After the first wave of air attacks, the Israeli military spokesman said the operation was just beginning and would be expanded and deepened as needed. Defense minister Ehud Barak warned Israelis that hard times were ahead.

The expected Hamas reprisals came quickly. Before burying their dead, they sent missiles flying to Ashkelon, then Netivot, where an Israeli man was killed and seven people were injured. Kiryat Gat was hit by a missile and Ashdod's citizens heard sirens. Both are on the outer perimeter of Hamas long-range missiles and have been unscathed until now.

Israel is holding ready the option of a major ground incursion if Palestinian missile attacks remain at a high level.

A big question hangs over whether Iran will send Hizballah to open a second front from Lebanon in response to the Israeli air operation in Gaza. According to DEBKAfile's intelligence sources, the Hizballah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, paid a secret visit to Tehran in the third week of November to clarify this very question. A short while later, the al Qods commander, Gen. Qassem Suleimani, arrived in Beirut. Most probably, they tied up the ends of a possible Hizballah response to the expected Israeli Gaza operation during that visit. Hence the Israeli military spokesman's warning that the Gaza air operation was just the beginning and could be expanded as needed.
Israel air strikes continue in S. Gaza after 205 killed in earlier raids of Hamas sites
Israeli bombers hit Hamas' film center in southern Gaza Saturday night, Dec. 27, after massive air raids destroyed Hamas compounds across the enclave leaving 205 killed, 330 injured and thousands of shock victims. The operation followed a week in which Hamas fired 200 missiles at Israeli civilian targets.

The Israeli Air Force planes struck Hamas security headquarters in Gaza City and compounds, police stations and ports. Several Hamas commanders were killed in the bombardment of a Hamas military passing-out ceremony. Among them was Hamas police chief Tawfiq Jabber.

The Israeli military spokesman said the Gaza operation is "just beginning" and would be expanded and intensified as necessary.

Hamas and other Palestinian factions ordered its "fighters to avenge Israeli attacks." A Israeli was killed in Netivot in its first reprisal.

Egypt has condemned Israel for its military attack, but held Hamas responsible for refusing to heed warnings and failing to protect the Palestinian people. It has mobilized its rescue and medical services in Sinai, including hospitals for aid to casualties for the Israeli air bombardment of Gaza. Egyptian ambulances stood by at the Rafah crossing to transport wounded Hamas operatives.

The Israeli air attack launching some 40 missiles began 11.30 a.m. local time Saturday, eight days after Hamas terminated the informal Gaza ceasefire by showering missiles and mortar rounds on 250,000 Israeli civilians day after day.

Last week, the Israeli cabinet gave the Israeli military the green light for reprisals as Palestinian missile attacks escalated, 13 mortar rounds fired Friday, when Israel allowed 90 trucks of food and medicines to cross into the Gaza Strip.

Since Israel evacuated the Gaza Strip in 2005, the Palestinians have fired 5,000 missiles.
TV channels are being pro-Palestinian. It appears a lot of civilians were affected in this strike. Residential buildings next to police stations were also affected. UN office saying a bus full of students were going home from a lull, and were hit.

My take of this attack: Hamas were not expecting anything major such as this, as they're tactic was just to launch a few rockets a day, and as long as Hamas didn't send too many, Israel wouldn't respond. Hamas is still in the process of connecting/finishing a lot of their tunnels and bunkers as well as underground networks. So, Hamas was playing it safe and trying not to trouble the israeli's too much. However, I doubt there will be a full scale ground incursion into Gaza, if it is, there is going to be one hell of a fight, something like the 2006 Hezbollah-Israel fight. Now I wonder if Hamas is going to get a green light from Iran too.

I think the Israeli's should have just continued to attack the real terrorists and terror planners, and not the local police and traffic cops who were graduating. Qassams are made locally within Gaza. I state again that the Israeli's do not have the intelligence to hit these factories. Maybe Israeli BRF members can give us a better picture of the sites chosen in this strike.

India's response to this: I really don't know why India responded in such a way, Hamas was asking for Israeli retaliation. India should not have said anything, or should have just issued a bland statement saying, we hope there can be peace in the middle east and both parties come back together to work for a 2 state solution.
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JE Menon wrote: >>^Nothing much gain from attacking gaza, neither politically nor diplomatically or from security point of view.

Maybe there is nothing sought to be "gained". For instance, what has Hamas to gain from rocketing Israel, politically, diplomatically or from security point of view? Clearly nothing. All they accomplished was to terrorise and kill. The Israelis are doing the same - only on a larger scale. Why should they expect to accomplish more? But they can certainly kill and terrorise more, which they are doing...
That is a darn good point.

Next: Israel prepares Gaza ground incursion, Hamas gears for suicide terror
DEBKAfile's military sources assess the next stage of Israel's Gaza campaign as being a ground incursion of the Gaza Strip, to follow up the air bombardment of Hamas compounds Saturday, Dec. 27. Hamas estimates that in four minutes, dozens of Israeli bombers and helicopters flattened 30 "high profile" sites. At least 350 Palestinians were killed, 90 percent of them Hamas operatives, and between 700 and 800 more were injured. Some of the casualties are still buried under the rubble. The blow sustained by the Palestinian Islamist terrorist group was massive by any military standards and severely upset its military equilibrium. Its retaliation against Israeli towns and villages was therefore slower and smaller in scope that Israel expected.

The fifty plus missiles fired into Israel included a small number of 42-range Grad Katyusha rockets made in Iran. One Israeli was killed and several injured in Netivot and three more hurt when Sderot synagogue too a direct missile hit.

Nonetheless, Hamas will not show a white flag, even after losing hundreds of its military and police personnel, including top commanders, and will make a supreme effort to retaliate from the Gaza Strip as well as mobilizing its substantial Hizballah-backed command center in Lebanon. Hamas operatives will be pressed into service as suicide terrorists. They remain active after Israeli units and Mahmoud Abbas' special forces trained by US and British instructors conducted systematic crackdowns to crush them for more than a year. The second blow in the form of a formidable Israeli ground incursion without delay is therefore imperative to prevent Hamas getting its second wind.

While Israel's air attack is counted a success, its war chiefs are taking care not to be trapped by an early achievement into the sort of blunders which led to the Lebanon war's unsatisfactory conclusion in 2006. That campaign was commanded by a former airman, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, who saw no point in a ground operation after Hizballah's command center was razed by air – until it was too late.

The first objective of a ground force in the coming hours will be to destroy "Lower Gaza," the underground city designed by an Iranian general and spread under most of the enclave's area. This subterranean sanctuary kept the bulk of the Hamas army, 15,000 men, their officers and leaders, out of harm's way during the Israeli air offensive Saturday. Their resistance must be broken before Hamas can be brought to surrender. Until then they will fight on.

The second Israeli objective must be to sever the Gaza Strip from Egypt by recapturing the Philadelphi border strip.

These missions are formidable indeed and may take weeks of ups and downs, which is why prime minister Ehud Olmert's goal of restoring normal lives to the people of southern Israel is a lot less simplistic than it sounds. The air operation was indeed just the beginning.
I expect to wake up tomorrow morning with Israeli tanks in Gaza. But the reason why Hamas didn't respond a lot was because they don't want Israel to come in YET. But its not going their way for the moment as Israel gets ready for a ground attack.

What Israel will expect in summary:
-With a large stock of chlorine it acquired from Egyptian and Iraqi smugglers, Hamas and its affiliated organizations are reportedly now in a position to carry out toxic gas attacks.

-Nearly 150 such tunnels are now in use and they are highly difficult to detect because they end up on the Palestinian side in houses inhabited by prominent figures.

- Hamas have received Anti tank weapons, 15 tons of explosives, 14000 assault rifles.

- Hamas have now found more militants who are willing to blow up Israeli tanks using suicide.

- Massive underground bunkers, similar to that faced in Lebanon in 2006.

- Anti Air weapons were used day before yesterday.

My prediction: this will last a while. On past intelligence input, Hezbollah will not step in. Hamas has some terrorists operating in Lebanon border. Israel will probably allow Hamas to rule Gaza.
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must be the improved 40km range Grad.
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Missile from Gaza deepest strike yet in Israel

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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police say a missile from Gaza hit near the city of Ashdod in the deepest missile strike inside Israel yet.

Regional police spokeswoman Sarit Philipson says she was driving home Sunday when she saw the missile hit the ground near Ashdod, about 23 miles from Gaza.

In Gaza, Hamas claimed responsibility for firing the missile.

Philipson told Israel Army Radio that she saw a large explosion and a plume of smoke.

Gaza's Hamas rulers have been stockpiling weapons in recent months, including medium-range missiles. Until Sunday, the deepest targets inside Israel had been the city of Ashkelon and the town of Netivot, which are closer to Gaza.
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"The first duty of a antion is to pritect its people".Barak.No one can disagree with that.Israel despite peace with Egypt and Jordan,still has the Palestinian mess to sort out.Two separate states in the region was agreed upon earlier in endless peace agreements.The tradeoff ,"land for peace" while agreed upon only, saw Israel offer a fragmented Palestinian state which was unworkable.Israeli settlements continue to exist in areas promised to the Palestinians.Israel has swung back and forth politically with small hardline parties holding the keys to power in almost all elections.The west in particular has done very little to pressurise Israel and the Palestinains into a compromise.They have turned a blind eye to events especially during the Bush administration,allowing the problem to grow even more intractable.Syria still wants its Golan Heights back.Proxy wars in Lebanon and Gaza have been the result.Both sides blame the other.The Islamist fundamentals have seized political power both in Gaza and Lebanon through Hamas and the Hiz and these two have vowed to fight the Israelis unto the death.

Here are two articles attacking Israeli policy towards the Palestinains just to give the other side of the picture.The sad fact is that the cycle of violence will continue as long as the Palestinian fundamentalists continue to hit Israel indiscriminately.

Robert Fisk: Leaders lie, civilians die, and lessons of history are ignored

Monday, 29 December 2008

We've got so used to the carnage of the Middle East that we don't care any more – providing we don't offend the Israelis. It's not clear how many of the Gaza dead are civilians, but the response of the Bush administration, not to mention the pusillanimous reaction of Gordon Brown, reaffirm for Arabs what they have known for decades: however they struggle against their antagonists, the West will take Israel's side. As usual, the bloodbath was the fault of the Arabs – who, as we all know, only understand force.

Ever since 1948, we've been hearing this balderdash from the Israelis – just as Arab nationalists and then Arab Islamists have been peddling their own lies: that the Zionist "death wagon" will be overthrown, that all Jerusalem will be "liberated". And always Mr Bush Snr or Mr Clinton or Mr Bush Jnr or Mr Blair or Mr Brown have called upon both sides to exercise "restraint" – as if the Palestinians and the Israelis both have F-18s and Merkava tanks and field artillery. Hamas's home-made rockets have killed just 20 Israelis in eight years, but a day-long blitz by Israeli aircraft that kills almost 300 Palestinians is just par for the course.

The blood-splattering has its own routine. Yes, Hamas provoked Israel's anger, just as Israel provoked Hamas's anger, which was provoked by Israel, which was provoked by Hamas, which ... See what I mean? Hamas fires rockets at Israel, Israel bombs Hamas, Hamas fires more rockets and Israel bombs again and ... Got it? And we demand security for Israel – rightly – but overlook this massive and utterly disproportionate slaughter by Israel. It was Madeleine Albright who once said that Israel was "under siege" – as if Palestinian tanks were in the streets of Tel Aviv.

By last night, the exchange rate stood at 296 Palestinians dead for one dead Israeli. Back in 2006, it was 10 Lebanese dead for one Israeli dead. This weekend was the most inflationary exchange rate in a single day since – the 1973 Middle East War? The 1967 Six Day War? The 1956 Suez War? The 1948 Independence/Nakba War? It's obscene, a gruesome game – which Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, unconsciously admitted when he spoke this weekend to Fox TV. "Our intention is to totally change the rules of the game," Barak said.

Exactly. Only the "rules" of the game don't change. This is a further slippage on the Arab-Israeli exchanges, a percentage slide more awesome than Wall Street's crashing shares, though of not much interest in the US which – let us remember – made the F-18s and the Hellfire missiles which the Bush administration pleads with Israel to use sparingly.

Quite a lot of the dead this weekend appear to have been Hamas members, but what is it supposed to solve? Is Hamas going to say: "Wow, this blitz is awesome – we'd better recognise the state of Israel, fall in line with the Palestinian Authority, lay down our weapons and pray we are taken prisoner and locked up indefinitely and support a new American 'peace process' in the Middle East!" Is that what the Israelis and the Americans and Gordon Brown think Hamas is going to do?

Yes, let's remember Hamas's cynicism, the cynicism of all armed Islamist groups. Their need for Muslim martyrs is as crucial to them as Israel's need to create them. The lesson Israel thinks it is teaching – come to heel or we will crush you – is not the lesson Hamas is learning. Hamas needs violence to emphasise the oppression of the Palestinians – and relies on Israel to provide it. A few rockets into Israel and Israel obliges.

Not a whimper from Tony Blair, the peace envoy to the Middle East who's never been to Gaza in his current incarnation. Not a bloody word.

We hear the usual Israeli line. General Yaakov Amidror, the former head of the Israeli army's "research and assessment division" announced that "no country in the world would allow its citizens to be made the target of rocket attacks without taking vigorous steps to defend them". Quite so. But when the IRA were firing mortars over the border into Northern Ireland, when their guerrillas were crossing from the Republic to attack police stations and Protestants, did Britain unleash the RAF on the Irish Republic? Did the RAF bomb churches and tankers and police stations and zap 300 civilians to teach the Irish a lesson? No, it did not. Because the world would have seen it as criminal behaviour. We didn't want to lower ourselves to the IRA's level.

Yes, Israel deserves security. But these bloodbaths will not bring it. Not since 1948 have air raids protected Israel. Israel has bombed Lebanon thousands of times since 1975 and not one has eliminated "terrorism". So what was the reaction last night? The Israelis threaten ground attacks. Hamas waits for another battle. Our Western politicians crouch in their funk holes. And somewhere to the east – in a cave? a basement? on a mountainside? – a well-known man in a turban smiles.

PS:Yes,Mr.Fisk,but didn't the British unleash similar tactics of terror against catholics in ireland for centuries before the Irish state was founded?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... mas-israel
Gaza: the logic of colonial power

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"Do not be deceived: the persistence of the Palestine problem is the main motive for every anti-American militant in the Arab world and beyond. But now the Bush administration has added Iraq and Afghanistan as additional grievances. America has lost its influence on the Arab masses, even if it can still apply pressure on Arab regimes. But reformists and elites in the Arab world want nothing to do with America.

A failed American administration departs, the promise of a Palestinian state a lie, as more Palestinians are murdered. A new president comes to power, but the people of the Middle East have too much bitter experience of US administrations to have any hope for change. President-elect Obama, Vice President-elect Biden and incoming secretary of state Hillary Clinton have not demonstrated that their view of the Middle East is at all different from previous administrations. As the world prepares to celebrate a new year, how long before it is once again made to feel the pain of those whose oppression it either ignores or supports?"

In defence of Israel.

From The TimesDecember 29, 2008
Bitter Harvest

Israel had little choice but to respond to the Hamas attacks. But its deadly action shatters hopes for the already battered Middle East peace plan
After eight days of rocket attacks from Gaza the Palestinian group Hamas seemed to have left Israel with little choice but to retaliate. On Saturday it did so, launching one of the deadliest series of air assaults in the history of the 60-year-old conflict. As a result, innocent lives are being destroyed. The Middle East peace plan was already dog-eared. It now looks threadbare.

The latest tragedy is the outcome of a vicious cycle that has gripped Gaza since Hamas seized full control of the territory from the more moderate, secular Palestinian Fatah movement in June 2007. Israel tightened its blockade as a result, and has been demanding that Hamas cease its rocket attacks. Hamas vowed to continue them until Israel opened the border and stopped retaliating. In the past few weeks, an uneasy six-month truce between the two sides has unravelled. Israel has tightened its control of the border, permitting only the intermittent delivery of humanitarian supplies. The result is a violent impasse that shows no sign of abating, despite the call by the UN Security Council (see pages 6, 7 and 8) for an immediate end to the bloodshed.

The increase in violence is a huge blow for the moderate Palestinian leadership. Prolonged fighting in Gaza would make it extremely difficult for the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank to continue the peace talks. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is left looking beleaguered as he rightly calls for Egypt to help to negotiate a new truce. The animosity between Hamas and Fatah had already shredded the notion of a united Palestinian leadership. This latest move underlines the deep divisions that exist on the Palestinian side, divisions that are exacerbated by Iranian backing for Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza. Yesterday's call by the exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal, for Palestinians from both Gaza and the West Bank to come together in a new Islamist intifada, or uprising, was a clear attempt to undermine Mr Abbas's Fatah administration.

Both the Israelis and Palestinians have failed in Gaza. The Israelis had hoped to make life intolerable for Hamas, intending either that it would reform and start to co-operate, or that the people of Gaza would decide that they had had enough of their Government. Neither has happened. On the contrary, the bold words of Hamas leaders suggest that they have found renewed strength through the conflict. In their turn, the Palestinians have claimed to want peace. But they have been only occasional partners in the peace process, and sometimes openly hostile.

Israel masses forces for ground assault on Gaza

Israel's withdrawal from Gaza three years ago was a traumatic process for that country. It removed its soldiers and settlers from the coastal strip, only then to come under fire from its new neighbours. There will be plenty of Israeli politicians happy to argue that Hamas has squandered its chance. Both the leading candidates to become Israel's next prime minister, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Likud party leader Binyamin Netanyahu, have said that they are prepared to use military force to overthrow Hamas in Gaza (although Ms Livni has also said that there is no wish to reoccupy Gaza). With the election looming in February - the timing of the violence is not coincidental - such a venture looks increasingly possible. But the human price would be terrible. Israeli leaders must consider whether their country's security would really come from more bloodshed.

In Gaza, Hamas leaders have gone into hiding. They are leaving their people to bear the brunt of the Israeli attacks. Yet most of the impoverished citizens of Gaza just want a better life. They must decide whether more moderate leaders could offer them that, rather than a vicious cycle of senseless destruction.
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More Israeli viewpoints.

Analysis: Don't forget the Iranian connection
By DAVID HOROVITZ
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What is not yet clear, by contrast, is whether the official spokespeople have internalized the necessity to highlight Iran in their message to the world - Iran, the state champion and major enabler of Hamas's terror-state in Gaza.

Iran is inspiring, funding, arming and training Hamas.

Iran is avowedly committed to Israel's destruction, and regards Hamas as a tool toward this goal.

The same Iran, via an emboldened Hizbullah, is now most of the way to achieving proxy control not merely of southern Lebanon, but all of Lebanon.

The same Iran, already armed with missiles that can reach Israel, is extending its missile range to Europe and, it hopes, ultimately to North America.

The same Iran is openly challenging not just the Middle East order but the world order, with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad personifying that challenge, thoroughly backed by the entire Teheran regime.

And that same Iran is moving ever closer to the nuclear capability it intends to use in the service of its goals.

The long-term deterrence of Hamas's capacity to threaten Israel would represent the long-term deterrence of one aspect of Iran's rapacious and far-reaching power drive. That's an outcome of Operation "Cast Lead" that at least part of the watching world might appreciate - if Israel can manage, first, to explain it clearly, and then to achieve it.

Abbas: Hamas could've prevented 'massacre'
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull

Abbas: Hamas could've prevented the "massacre" in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said Sunday in Cairo.
Abbas: Hamas could've prevented violence

"We spoke to them and told them 'Please, we ask you not to end the cease-fire. Let it continue,'" Abbas said during a joint press conference with Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit. "We want to protect the Gaza Strip. We don't want it to be destroyed."

Abbas called on Hamas to renew the cease-fire with Israel to avoid further bloodshed in Gaza.

Aboul Gheit also attacked Hamas, saying the group had prevented people wounded in the Israeli offensive from passing into Egypt to receive medical attention.

"We are waiting for the wounded Palestinians to reach Egypt. They aren't being allowed to go through," he said.

Asked who was to blame for the dire situation in Gaza, the foreign minister replied: "Ask the party that controls Gaza."

He added that the meeting of Arab foreign ministers meeting in Cairo Wednesday should call on Hamas to extend the truce.

Meanwhile, Egypt summoned the Israeli ambassador on Sunday to brief officials in Cairo about the Israeli military action.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFull

The Region: Hamas's strategy: The rockets or the media
By BARRY RUBIN

Nothing is clearer than Hamas's strategy. It gives Israel the choice between rockets and media, and Hamas thinks it is a situation of "we win or you lose."

Hamas ends a cease-fire giving it the peace and quiet it needs to build up its army and consolidate its rule over the Gaza Strip. Israel would deliver supplies as long as there weren't attacks. From a Western-style pragmatic standpoint, this is a great situation.

But Hamas isn't a Western-style pragmatic organization. Peace and quiet is its enemy not only because of its ideology - the deity commands it to destroy Israel - or its self-image as heroic martyrs, but also because battle is needed to recruit the masses for permanent war and unite the population around it.

Hamas has no program of improving the well-being of the people or educating children to be doctors, teachers and engineers. Its platform has but one plank: war, war, endless war, sacrifice, heroism and martyrdom until total victory is achieved.

Thus, it ends the cease-fire.

The rockets

And so Hamas ends the cease-fire and rains rockets down on Israel, accompanied by mortars and the occasional attempt at a cross-border ground attack. Israel does nothing.

Hamas crows: You are weak, you are confused, you are helpless. Come, people, arise and destroy the paper tiger! And so more people are recruited, West Bank Palestinians look on with admiration at those fighting the enemy, and the Arabic-speaking world is impressed.

Remember 2006, they say. It is just like Hizbullah.

Israel is helpless against the rockets. Why don't our governments fight Israel? Let's overthrow them and bring brave, fighting Islamist governments to power.

The media

But then Israel does fight back. Its planes bomb military targets which have been deliberately put amid civilians. If there is a high danger of hitting civilians, Israel doesn't attack. But there is a line below which risk that will be taken, and rightly so.

The smug smiles are wiped off the faces of Hamas leaders. Yet they have one more weapon, their reserves. They call up the media.

Those arrogant, heroic, macho victors of yesterday - literally yesterday as the process takes only a few hours - are transformed into pitiful victims. Casualty figures are announced by Hamas, and accepted by reporters who are not on the spot. Everyone hit is, of course, a civilian. No soldiers here.

And the casualties are disproportionate: Hamas has arranged it that way. If necessary, sympathetic photographers take pictures of children who pretend to be injured, and once they are published in Western newspapers these claims become fact.

YET THERE is a problem here. Rockets and mortars may win wars; newspaper articles really don't. Of course, too, material damage is inflicted that sets back Gaza's material development.

Hamas doesn't care about that, but by acting in a way to ensure the destruction of its material base, Hamas does weaken itself. Precisely because Israeli attacks are focussed on military targets, Hamas is weakened.

Conclusion: The problem with no solution.

OF COURSE, Israel does not win a complete victory. Hamas does not fall. The problem is not gone. For Hamas will define survival as victory. Hamas, like the PLO before it, wins one "victory" after another and always ends up worse off.

The conflict will be back, however it ends this round, on whatever day it ends. Quiet will return, the supplies will flow back into Gaza. And so many months in the future the process will be repeated.

There is, however, an important difference. Israel uses its time not only for military preparations but to educate its children, build its infrastructure, raise its living standards. Hamas doesn't.

"We believe in death," Hamas says, "You believe in life." Sometimes you get what you wish for.

The writer is director of Global Research in International Affairs. www.gloriacenter.org


PS:The author's analysis of Hamsas is chillingly reminiscent of the anti-Indian terrorists who want nothing other than the destruction of India."Islamist Nazism" is in full bloom,with Islam's extremists taking over worldwide with its warped mindset and sadly it simply has to be fought wherever it explodes into violence across the globe.
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Has the Israeli attack been one of overkill? The large casualties on the Palestinian side (Hamas and civilians) now approaching 400,with 1500+ wounded gives one an idea of the ferocity of the Israeli air strikes.Many observers say that though Israel has the right to hit back,in the end it will only create more anti-Israeli sentiment in the Arab world and refuel the cycle of violence that has plagued the region since 1948 and Israel's birth.Any ground offensive by Israel,on the cards,will further alienate the Palestinians.At all costs,Hamas must not be allowed to wear the mantle of martyrdom.Israel must find a way of being selective in its targets,as it used to do,now widen the conflict and losing the propaganda war in the bargain.

Below,the view from Fisk who reprsents the Palestinian cause.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 16228.html

Robert Fisk: Why bombing Ashkelon is the most tragic irony
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Has the Israeli attack been one of overkill? The large casualties on the Palestinian side (Hamas and civilians) now approaching 400,with 1500+ wounded gives one an idea of the ferocity of the Israeli air strikes.Many observers say that though Israel has the right to hit back,in the end it will only create more anti-Israeli sentiment in the Arab world and refuel the cycle of violence that has plagued the region since 1948 and Israel's birth.Any ground offensive by Israel,on the cards,will further alienate the Palestinians.At all costs,Hamas must not be allowed to wear the mantle of martyrdom.Israel must find a way of being selective in its targets,as it used to do,instead of widening the conflict and losing the propaganda war in the bargain.

Below,the view from Fisk who reprsents the Palestinian cause.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 16228.html

Robert Fisk: Why bombing Ashkelon is the most tragic irony
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As rocket attacks continue killing more Israelis and Hamas vows revenge,Israel plans to fight Hamas to the finish.The battle intensifies with it rapidly becoming a virtual "war" between both sides.Whether this will spread beyond Gaza is the moot question.

Now Israel declares 'war to the bitter end'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 16220.html
Israeli tactics:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/de ... y-strategy

Gaza tactics and long-term goals divide Israeli military analystsSharp differences of opinion over how Israel can achieve aim of reducing Palestinian rocket fire
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Fears that Israel's Dimona nuclear plant will be in range of Hamas' rockets.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 430133.ece

Gaza rockets put Israel’s nuclear plant in battle zone
Growing concern over Hamas’s new arsenal
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Israel's tactics to destroy Hamas.Lessons for India to emulate.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 21806.html

New Israeli attacks target Hamas homes
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Who Contributes to Clinton Foundation in Middle East?

The nomination of Hilary Clinton as secretary of state has forced her husband to reveal the list of donors to his welfare foundation, which he had always declined to do.

Among the most generous donors to the William J. Clinton Foundation set up by former U.S. president Bill Clinton figure a significant number of contributors from the Near and Middle East (see graph below), with the Saudi royal family in the forefront (between $10 and $25 million). Clinton agreed to release the exhaustive list of his donors on Dec. 18 to offset suspicion that the money could directly influence the political choices of his wife as new secretary of state.

To pave the way for Hillary’s nomination to the post, three of the Clinton couple’s regular lawyers (Cheryl Mills (vice president of New York University), David Kendall and Robert Barnett (both partners in the firm William & Connolly) assisted Barack Obama’s transition team by examining all available financial information about Bill Clinton and the potential for conflicts of interest stemming from his business dealings with foreign governments.

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IOL reports:

Mohammed Al Raqqad is new GID chief of Jordan. Btw Saudi GID no longer partenrs with Jordanian GID on missions in Lebanon. Jordan is out in the cold. mohammed Dahabi who was the predecessor, was booted out because of being pro hamas, he staged a pro hamas demonstration in Amman after Israel attacked Gaza and was subsequently booted out. IOL reports that Dahabi allowed hamas to store some of its arsenal on Jordanian soil.

Saddam's intelligence base in the US was a shish kebab restaurant a stones throw away from the NSA building in the suburbs of washington. It served as a cover for meetings etc. The manager and a worker of the restaurant are facing charges in the US. They also helped destroy intel files of iraqi embassy in the US.
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Looks like Hezbollah may step in to help Hamas by launching rockets into northern Israel. Khaled Meshaal also shares the same view. Although Iran has been lobbying Bashar Al Assad to allow Hezbollah to launch operations. Bashar says that Lebanon hasnt recovered from the 2006 clash. Meanwhile Assad has sent one of his top military advisors to meet with Nasrallah's assisstant.
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I think that all matters relating to events like Gaza should not clog the Indo-Israeli thread which is specific to relations between the two countries,so here goes.The raging controversy over israeli use of illegal white phosphorous bombs continues and its bombing of the UN offices in Gaza has enraged many.For the first time the US is imposing arms sanctions on Israel and this is what India must prusue for Pak also.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 80409.html

Kim Sengupta: Claims that Israel is using illegal bombs won't go away


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ja ... srael-gaza

US suspends munitions delivery to Israel
Ship's journey delayed amid fears cargo would be used in Gaza
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The utter bankruptcy and irrelevancy of the UN,led by the lunatic puppet,"Bunkum" Moon,is especially evident by its sheer inability to end the Gaza war and its horrendous loss of life.Neither side in the conflict has cared a hoot about the pathetic timid utterings from its head and the UN's own offices in Gaza have been attacked.Unless the UN is reorganised and the members of the UNSC put their act together,especially the US which is largely responsible for diluting the UN's status in resolving security issues around the globe,it would be an act of mercy to put the organisation out of its misery like the League of Nations.This piece is from the former head of the UN mission to the region.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 80408.html

Alvaro de Soto: Few will thank UN when this war ends
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Equally uselessly, but undoubtedly with no less sartorial elegance, he was envoy to resolve the Cyprus dispute before that...
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X-Posted :
PBS Doumentary : The House of Saud

[googlevideo]4946388185611545522[/googlevideo]
Consise history of Saudi Arabia.
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Phillip,
There is a human tragedy of much bigger scale in violence, blood and in terms of violation of the most basic humans rights taking place which the world had forgotten. The Palestinians you see are better fed and better dressed than probably half the population of south asia. And they are mostly jobless. Hey, if I can get stuffs for free why should I work. Also, there are washing machines in the so called refugee camps, tv sets, hot water bath and other stuffs that you will find only in the west. Despite all these the world still cries for their supposed suffering while the world totally has ignored the sufferings of the the people that I mentioned earlier in this post. It is happening in Sri Lanka. There are more indiscriminate attacks on civillians, more unnecessary deaths and more bloody. I have not heard any body protesting. Arab lives worth more than the lives of.....?????
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asprinzl wrote:Phillip,
There is a human tragedy of much bigger scale in violence, blood and in terms of violation of the most basic humans rights taking place which the world had forgotten. The Palestinians you see are better fed and better dressed than probably half the population of south asia. And they are mostly jobless. Hey, if I can get stuffs for free why should I work. Also, there are washing machines in the so called refugee camps, tv sets, hot water bath and other stuffs that you will find only in the west. Despite all these the world still cries for their supposed suffering while the world totally has ignored the sufferings of the the people that I mentioned earlier in this post. It is happening in Sri Lanka. There are more indiscriminate attacks on civillians, more unnecessary deaths and more bloody. I have not heard any body protesting. Arab lives worth more than the lives of.....?????
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Xlent point, to this I want to narrate an experience of mine sorry if its slightly OT a Muslim friend of mine once was delivering loads of abuses on Israel and said he felt bad for the Palestinians, to this I quickly asked him as to why he is only worried about Palestinians and not the Hindus in Bangladesh who are being exterminated or the Tibetans, to this he mumbled something on the lines of "because the tag of Islamic terrorismis attached to it". I immediately interrupted him by saying that of late the word hindu terrorism is making the rounds so would that justify my resorting to violence etc to which he could reply nothing...

honestly external control of Indian populations in the name of religion is one of the greatest problems being faced by India.....2 religions which had their origins in the middle east...
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Sarkozy: “Arabic Is the Language of the Future”
Tue, 2008-10-14 11:14

The French government is strongly advocating the teaching of Arabic language and civilization in French schools. Not surprising, considering the number of Arabs and Muslims in France, and the unctuous deference with which they are treated by officials, beginning notably with Nicolas Sarkozy, who cannot praise enough the splendor of Arabic contributions to the world.
Haha, watch Europe become Eurabia!

I'll laugh when the Europeans are upto their necks in Muslims, who will be clamouring for Sharia Law, triple-talaqs, honour-killings, etc, etc.

The EU parliament in Brussels will scramble to appease their rapidly-breeding vote bank.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving set of people.
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From the author of "Londonistan",part of Eurabia!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123240733254895655.html

Britain's Surrender London's reaction to the Gaza war shows it is giving up against jihad.

By MELANIE PHILLIPS |
From today's Wall Street Journal Europe

In Britain, the war in Gaza has revealed the extent to which the media, intelligentsia and political class have simply crumbled in the face of the global jihad.

The U.K. is a major player in European and world politics and is America's most significant strategic ally. Until now, it has been considered one of Israel's firm supporters and a linchpin of the Western defense against the world-wide Islamist onslaught. With the reaction to Gaza, however, that reputation is no longer sustainable.

Years of demonizing Israel and appeasing Islamist extremism within Britain have now coalesced, as a result of the media misrepresentation of the Gaza war as an atrocity against civilians, in an unprecedented wave of hatred against Israel and a sharp rise in attacks on British Jews.

Throughout the war, London's streets have witnessed a hallucinatory level of violent and explicit support for Hamas from Muslims, members of the far left and supposedly progressive individuals.

Night after night, Israel's embassy in well-to-do Kensington found itself under violent siege. Demonstrators attempted to storm the building, howling their support for the terrorist body whose genocidal intentions toward Israel and the Jews necessarily includes killing every one of the occupants inside.

Certainly, there have been anti-Israel protests around the world. But in Britain, not only have these been particularly violent but the authorities have done nothing to stop such incitement of hatred.

The police told pro-Israel demonstrators on at least one occasion to put away their Israel flags because they were "inflammatory." Yet officers allowed some anti-Israel demonstrators to scream support for Hamas -- and even to dress up as hook-nosed Jews pretending to drink the blood of Palestinian babies.

In general, the police have reacted passively to the violence. One recent video clip captured the astonishing spectacle of Muslims stampeding through London's West End hurling traffic cones and other missiles at the police, all the time shrieking "Allahu akbar" and "cowards." The police ran and stumbled backward rather than standing their ground and stopping the rampage.

Not only has such violence barely been reported. There has also been no acknowledgment of the explicitly Islamist nature of these demonstrations. Keffiyeh-clad demonstrators prostrated themselves in prayer or shouted "Allahu akbar" as they attacked Jewish-owned or -founded stores, such as Starbucks and Tesco, on numerous occasions.

Instead, the political class has simply regurgitated Hamas propaganda. In a debate in the House of Commons last week, one MP after another expressed horror at Israel's supposed crimes against humanity in Gaza.

More serious still, Foreign Office Minister Bill Rammell cited as fact the Hamas claim that 300 children had been killed in Gaza, even though Israel has given a much lower figure, and said the Israeli action was "disproportionate" and the bombing was "indefensible and unacceptable."

Similarly, Prime Minister Gordon Brown, commenting after this weekend's cease-fire that "too many innocent people" had been killed, made no mention of Israel's strenuous attempts to minimize civilian casualties, nor Hamas's responsibility for holding Gaza's civilians hostage.

In fact, the British government has effectively taken the view that Israel should not be allowed to defend itself by military means against the Hamas rockets that ministers have taken care to condemn.

From the second day of the war, Foreign Secretary David Miliband was calling for an immediate cease-fire by both sides. Since Hamas would take no notice, this in practice amounted to pressure upon Israel to stop defending itself.

It was Britain which took the lead in framing the United Nations resolution calling upon Israel to withdraw all its forces from Gaza while making no mention whatever of Hamas. And it was Britain which also drew a disquieting moral equivalence between Hamas terrorism and Israeli self-defense.

Certainly, neither Mr. Miliband nor Mr. Brown -- a reputed supporter of Israel -- can be unaware that it was Tony Blair's refusal to call for an immediate cease-fire by Israel in the 2006 Lebanon war that finally led his MPs, already enraged by his support for the war in Iraq, to force him prematurely out of office.

But Britain's new coolness toward Israel is due to much more than this. The government's failure to support Israel's war against Hamas as the front line of the West's defense against the global Islamic jihad reflects its failure in turn to acknowledge the nature of that world-wide phenomenon.

Last Thursday, Mr. Miliband wrote in the Guardian that there was no single, unified Islamist threat but merely a set of various local grievances, such as Kashmir or the Golan Heights. Such startling ignorance of the goals and ideological antecedents of the Islamic jihad, from Hamas to Hezbollah to Pakistan's Lashkar-e-Taiba, is of a piece with the British government's stubborn refusal to accept that the West is under assault from a war of religion.

The government denies this fact because it does not want to face up to the unpalatable realities of fighting such a war. So although "middle Britain" is beginning to grasp that the Islamists in Gaza are the same as those rampaging through the streets of London, ministers are intent on appeasing Muslim extremism and intimidation both at home and abroad.

Accordingly, while Britain's security services have had significant success in smashing Islamic terrorism plots, government strategy for combating Islamist extremism rests upon seeking to mollify Britain's two million or so Muslims by avoiding confrontation -- which means turning a blind eye to threatening statements.

Recently, prominent British Muslims who advise ministers against Islamist extremism wrote an open letter making the veiled threat that unless the government condemned Israel there would be a rise in violence in Britain.

Ministers' openly stated fear that this will indeed happen as a result of the war in Gaza makes them anxious to show Britain's Muslims that they oppose Israel's actions. They don't understand that, by showing such weakness in the face of intimidation, they are not just betraying their Israeli ally but also undermining the Western defense against the jihad.

Across the spectrum, Britain's elites are terrified of dealing with militant Islamism. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that, in a pattern which goes back to the foundational Christian blood libel against the Jews, they are concealing their fearful inability to deal with Islamist aggression by displacing the blame onto its Israeli victims instead.

Ms. Phillips is a columnist for the Daily Mail and author of "Londonistan" (Encounter Books, 2005).

PS.Dear Asprinzl,I've been saying for over a decade now that Europe has shot itself in the head by appeasing the Islamists,through massive immigration of Muslims,for the sole purpose of so-called Socialist/Labour parties to win elections using the Muslim/Pakistani/Turkish/Somali votebanks.The dramatic rise of anti-Semitism in Europe is part of this stupid policy.Britain especially has been savaged by Labour's sanctimonious appeasement of the extremist Muslim community,where Gordon Brown has aid that 75% of all terror plotted against Britain comes from Pakistan (through its immigrant community)! Unfortunately,the tragic loss of civilian life in Gaza in Israel's legitimate counterattacks against Hamas, has overshadowed Israel's security concerns.The west/Europe and the international community have done very little to armtwist Hamas and the Hiz from refraining from attacking Israel ,recognising the Israeli state,because of their own security concerns at home.The world has to counter the blackmail of Islamist Nazism.India is seeing this right now with no international action against Pakistan's attacks on 26/11.

How democratic nations can face and deal with the cancer of Islamist Nazism that is subverting these states through their own liberal laws,is an acute and immediate need.There appears to be no other alternative than dealing with such terror and threats with the firmest of hands,using maximum foce when confronted with such terror blackmail.Israel has a unique situation with it being surrounded by Arab/Muslim states.It will have to discreetly discuss and negotiate methods of dealing with the moderate leadership (like Egypt which blamed Hamas for the conflict) in the region to pressurise the extremist leadership of Hamas to wage peace across the negotiating table instead of war in their heartland affecting the lives of their own civilians.
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I'm surprised that article appeared in a seemingly mainstream newspaper.

Have attacks on Jews really increased after Israel invaded Gaza?
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US consulate in Dubai has been closed due to terror threat. This follows a GCHQ/British warning, which elevated the threat perception in the UAE.
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More on Sarko,Napoleon of the 21st century?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 88656.html
Sarkozy: The new Napoleon?

Small men. Big ideas. Glamorous wives. The similarities between Nicolas Sarkozy and Napoleon are uncanny – and now have been explored in a book by France's foremost political commentator. John Lichfield reports

Thursday, 22 January 2009
MONTAGE: LIZZY OWEN

'They both set out to make sure that France was never the same again': In his book Alain Duhamel points out the startling parallels between Nicolas Sarkozy and Napoleon - and their marriages to Carla Bruni and Empress Josephine

Hit & Run: Sarko's sexercise class

Both will be remembered as vertically challenged men in a vertiginous hurry. Both were helped into power by beautiful wives, with whom they quarrelled. Both believed that they had a destiny to rebuild France and, above all, to change the way the French think of themselves. Both are known for a weakness for kitsch and anything that glitters.

Both came from non-French, minor aristocratic backgrounds and despised the Parisian elite. Both had, from the start of their career, an obsession with image and grasped the importance of controlling the media. Physical stature alone has inevitably encouraged comparisons between Napoleon Bonaparte and Nicolas Sarkozy. President Sarkozy is almost exactly the same height as L'Empéreur, about 5ft 6in, which was, in fact, respectably tall in Napoleon's day.

Most of the Napoleon/Nicolas comparisons made since M. Sarkozy became President 20 months ago have been brief and insulting, especially in Germany, a country which can stomach neither Napoleon nor "Nicoleon". France's most subtle and readable political commentator, Alain Duhamel, has now explored the interesting parallels between the two men at book length (La Marche Consulaire – Plon).

France remains schizophrenic about Napoleon's character and legacy. The street-map of Paris is littered with tributes to the emperor's generals, victories, armies and treaties but it has no grand avenue or boulevard named after Napoleon himself.

A critical book then? No, not really. Duhamel's book is, on balance, positive about both men. But, crucially, it limits the period of its comparison to the "Bonaparte" years between 1799 and 1804, when the young Corsican general imposed order on the post-revolutionary muddle. As "First Consul", Bonaparte laid down the framework of the modern French state, from the code civile, to the franc, to the Légion d'honneur, to the colleges for training an "elite".

Duhamel skirts comparison with the "Napoleon" years, from 1804-15, when Bonaparte crowned himself emperor and entered a tyrannical and megalomanic spiral which ended at Waterloo.

"The sixth President of the Fifth Republic resembles the Premier Consul, bold and enigmatic, devastating and vulnerable, inspired and tormented, rather than the Emperor, searing and imperious, brutal and irresistible, glorious and tragic," Duhamel writes. The early Bonaparte, he says, tried to reconcile the need for order, beloved of the royalists and the right, with the need for movement or progress, demanded by the revolutionaries and the left. "Bonapartism", Duhamel says, successfully combined order and movement for the first time in French history.

M. Sarkozy, authoritarian and iconoclastic, morally conservative and politically reformist, is therefore a 21st-century reincarnation of the First Consul: a "Bonaparte in a suit".

"They both set out to make sure that France was never the same again. Both see themselves as the rebuilders of a great but fragile nation... It is up to them, alone, they believe, to rebuild confidence, to restore order but above all to modernise, to reform, to innovate... "They are fighting against time, waging a permanent battle against blockages, resistance, conservatism."

There are other, less flattering, points of comparison, Duhamel admits. Like Napoleon, M. Sarkozy is impatient and nervous, with strange physical tics. Both men fly into unreasonable rages with their subordinates. Both have an inordinate, but tasteless, love of the trappings of wealth and power. Both meddle in the smallest details of policy: Napoleon wrote and dispatched an edict on the future of the French national theatre from a blazing Moscow in 1812. M. Sarkozy found himself exchanging insults with trawlermen when he tried to solve a minor fisheries dispute in 2007.

Both have a blind-spot for the importance of decorum. Napoleon seized the imperial crown from the Pope's hands and crowned himself in 1804. M. Sarkozy invited France's most foul-mouthed comedian to join a delegation to meet Pope Benedict in 2007.

Bonaparte was one of the first politicians to grasp the importance of propaganda and control of the media. Even as a young general, he created his own newspaper to trumpet and embellish his exploits in Italy. Only adulation was permitted once he was in power.

Nicolas Sarkozy has been accused of trying to bring state-owned media under his heel by giving himself the sole right to name the boss of France Televisions. As a result, both men, says Duhamel, are "either admired or detested. No one can fail to have an opinion".

Worse, as Duhamel points out, by utterly dominating the political scene, by wanting to control everything, both men risked "over-exposure". Both created expectations which could, perhaps, never be fulfilled.

There is something elemental and driven about President Sarkozy which demands historical comparisons. And he has hit upon a bizarre comparison of his own. On several occasions, he has recalled publicly that France is a country which "turns on its leaders" and "guillotined King Louis XVI and his beautiful young, foreign wife". Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, a "gut socialist", is said to have been startled at being compared to Queen "Let-them-eat-cake" Marie-Antoinette.

President Sarkozy may also have found time to glance at another book, written by his close friend, the omnipresent, political wheeler-dealer and business consultant, Alain Minc. Une Histoire de France (Grasset) is a brilliant re-telling of 2,000 years of French history from the point of view of a 21st-century political fixer.

M. Minc is fiercely critical of Napoleon. He makes no comparison between the emperor and his friend, President Sarkozy. But he does point out that the "uncontrolled cavalcade [of Napoleon's career], defined by a constant need for new actions, with no overall design or strategic vision", was always going to be vulnerable to the tiniest defeat or failure.

Duhamel makes the same argument about M. Sarkozy. But can the Sarko myth survive the coming of the twin threats of recession and the publicity shadow cast by President Barack Obama?
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The article above is way off the mark in terms of accuracy. Napolean's background was Corsican criminal underground. There is no minor aristocratic heritage here. Even his nephew who became Napolean III was engaged in criminal underground in his native Corsica before he was brought to Paris to become Emperor (His empress was openly carried on liason with an Arab sheikh during the openning of the Suez Cannal). Josephine was not glamorous either. She was actually quite ugly. She had one quality. She was a go getter and had a penchant to sleep around with men of power and or money. She was first married to a plantation owner in the Carribbean and mothered his children. I did not read the whole article to be honest because just the above accounts in the beginning of the article told me that its just a load of garbage of inaccuracies.
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I came across this in the comments section of an article titled "Karin in Saudi Arabia" at http://www.faithfreedom.org The comment was supposedly by an Indian doctor working in Saudi Arabia. (Reader beware for inflamatory words. Don't say that you are not warned.) Take it for what it is worth.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
I have witnessed the following blood curdling events.

1.An Indian msolem and his beautiful wife were invited to attend a high up sodi’s house for dinner.The Indian moslem’s wife was a convert moslem( need I say a hindu) and she was not observing the purdah system of the barbaric moscums.( By the way scum bag moslems look at every woman as a vagina and nothing more). She was really pretty.That evening after a few drinks at sodi’s house the Indian msolem decided to bid good night and go home.He requested the sodi barbarian to call for his wife from harem.The sodi simply said, what wife!
The indian moslem thought he will make some noise about his wife.He was beaten up for peeping in to sodi’s bed room in drunken state.Then the muttawa’s took over.Being drunk in sodi is a crime.He was jailed 50 lashes promptly administered. He was threatened with beheading if he proceeded any more.Having lost his wife the moscum bag returned to India with his children to hyderabad and married another kafir hindu.The lady ’s fate is unknown!

The second story shows scum bag moslems will never change.
In sodi barbaria, liquor is available at a premium but easily on sly! typical islamic lie. Alchohol is mamnoo but is avaialble. I have had only blue label whisky in sodi barbaria.Have had the opportunity to interact with sodi women out side sodi barbaria.Good fun.
One moscum indian highcommissioner in sodi barbaria ( stooge of the congress) decided he will sell liquor to expats.The business was brisk al hamdulillah.This business cut in to sodi’s business( prince).He warned the Indian high commissioner about the business and told him to stop the same.
The moscum highcommissioner knew that he had diplomatic immunity and continued doing a brisk business.See the stuff was transported in the indian high commissioner’s vehicle.The sodi’s knew this.One fine morning they stopped the indian highcommissioner’s vehicle that was being driven by the driver alone.They confiscated the whisky etc and promptly jailed the kafir driver ( Vasudeva) and he was to be beheaded the next week
indian moscum had an option of ignoring the plight of the driver.he would have done so, but for the pressure from the Indian govt.The high commisioner was called back.Driver released and deported after receiving 50 lashes promptly.

The third story happened in a military hospital to an ENT surgeon.
The Paki moscum( may be it serves him right) was to operate on twin sons of a sodi moscum and the children were scheduled for simple tonsillectomy.One boy, the paki operated upon and the other child was operated on by the saudi resdient under paki supervision. The second child bled and had to be reoperated to stop the bleeding.The army man a sodi, was furious that a saudi resident had operated on his child who developed complication.
He came to the consulting room the next day and asked for paki doc.With out a hesitation he shot the paki dead! For simply letting the sodi resident to operate on his child. This is how brutal and barbaric the sodi’s are.It is a miracle that we do find gentle and decent sodis as well in that land.The indian moscums need to get their ass kicked a bit more.then they will appreciate the freedom they have in India. I believe the spherical cretin read or what ever his name is should be buggered by the sodi’s and he just might realise how brutal and barbaric islam is.Its pure evil islam, mohammad and allah evil and nothing but evil
The third incident above was confirmed by another commentator. Though I cannot vouch for their accuracy and its up to the readers here to take it for whatever it is worth.
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Just had a very interesting chat with my palestinian friend:
- He was saying "We won the war". Only 48 Hamas armed wing soldiers died in this war. Israeli's soldiers were soo shit scared to enter Gaza city. (my comment: some moderates within the group were like WTF??)
- Soldiers in the tanks were afraid to take a piss, they were wearing diapers apparently
- 11 members of his family were "martyred".
- Apparently, its a victory because, all of a sudden people who weren't previously Hamas supporters are now becoming Hamas supporters due to their own personal suffering.
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Another friend was saying, this war has caused people who were very un-religious previously to come into the mosques and start to pray regularly because they are angry at the situation in Gaza. Its a victory because they have more people who are ready to give up their lives for Hamas/Gaza. It is just bringing more recruits.
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Hamas Claims 'Victory' In Gaza
Hamas's armed wing claims it lost only 48 fighters in the 22-day war with Israel, as the fragile ceasefire held for a second night.
The militant group's armed wing also vowed to fight on unless Israel withdraws its troops from the Palestinian territory.

"We announce to our people the martyrdom of 48 Qassam fighters," Abu Obeida, spokesman for the Ezzedine Al-Qassam Brigades, said in a televised press conference.

He also said Hamas inflicted heavy losses on Israeli forces and killed 80 soldiers, but offered no evidence to support the claim.
Debka take:

Too Soon to Celebrate End of Gaza Conflict
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis

January 24, 2009
Deep divisions behind the smiles at the Arab Kuwait summit

Deep divisions behind the smiles at the Arab Kuwait summit

Israeli leaders insist that Israel's armed forces left Hamas seriously crippled – which is undeniable; but the second half of the proposition, especially when it is articulated by defense minister Ehud Barak, that Hamas had "lost its appetite to strike Israel targets for a very long time" – is over-optimistic, give seven considerations outlined here by DEBKAfile's military and counter-terror analysts:

1. Hamas is in no state to reach a clear decision because its leadership is divided on this very issue.

The Gazan faction headed by prime minister Ismail Haniya tends to accept Egypt's proposals for shelving armed warfare for now and trying to bury the hatchet with the Palestinian Authority chairman, Mahmoud Abbas. A power-sharing deal would give Gaza a legitimate Palestinian address for the receipt of Arab reconstruction aid, especially the half billion dollars allocated by Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah.

This line is opposed by Hamas' Damascus faction led by Khaled Meshaal. Toeing the bellicose line taken by the Iranian-Syrian camp, he rejects a long-term armistice, Cairo's steps to halt arms transfers to Hamas and all other conditions for reopening Gaza's crossings.

Hamas' military wing in Gaza, though seriously degraded by the fighting, strongly supports the Damascus line against Haniyah.

2. Both Jerusalem and Cairo own an interest in playing down Egypt's active contribution to Israel's military feat. Had Egypt not kept Gaza's gate to Sinai through Rafah closed, thereby shutting off Hamas' access to reinforcements and fresh weapons supplies, the Israeli operation would have lasted longer and casualties would have been higher.

Prime minister Ehud Olmert, foreign minister Tzipi Livni and Barak were hardly responsible for opening the diplomatic window which allowed the IDF to carry on fighting in the urban centers where Hamas had planted its military strongholds and stores. It was mostly Hosni Mubarak's work.

Cairo not only held Hamas to siege but blocked the airwaves to its broadcasted messages for influencing Arab opinion and the world's media.

3. Israel repaid Cairo by refraining from finally crushing Hamas and forcing its surrender. IDF commanders said they were short of no more than five hours for the knockout. But here, Egypt drew the line.

4. For the first time in its history, Israel bound itself to a major Arab power in a battle against an Arab force. This commitment has not ended. It obliges Israel to continue to respect the partnership for its next steps, especially when Egypt is the only party dealing with the Palestinian terrorist group on Israel's behalf

5. Until last week, Egypt enjoyed solid Saudi backing for its policy of diminishing Hamas and putting a damper on the Iranian-Syrian drive for influence in the Arab world – even Cairo's cooperation with Israel's military operation was accepted in Riyadh.

But then came a royal about-face. When the Arab League summit opened in Kuwait on Jan. 19, Mubarak was dismayed to find the Saudi king pulling the rug from under his feet on both counts. Abdullah then demanded that the Egyptian president make the peace-making gesture of appearing publicly with his Syrian and Qatari colleagues, Iran's Arab partners. Reluctant to offend the monarch, he agreed, but the next day walked out of the summit and flew home, signaling the Saudi king that his campaign against Iran, Syria and Hamas was far from over.

6. Abdullah's wish to appease the Iran-led radical camp has also divided the Saudi leadership. Foreign minister Prince Saud al Faisal, who espouses the Egyptian line, also removed himself from the Kuwait Arab summit, leaving the other Arab foreign ministers high and dry without an agreed final communiqué on the Gaza crisis. Al Faisal is supported by another senior Saudi prince, the national security adviser Bandar bin Sultan.

7. The divisions in the Arab world have encouraged Tehran to persist in rearming Hamas and the Hamas-Damascus faction to maintain its intransigent posture. They are certain that high military tension against Israel in the Gaza Strip and the diplomatic pressure on Egypt will break them down.

This contest of strength crackles with inflammatory potential, exacerbated by two key dates: Israel's general election on Feb. 10. Arab foes have traditionally sought to influence the outcome of Israel's elections, which this time right-of-center Likud leader Binyamin Netanyahu is practically sure of winning; and Feb. 12, the first anniversary of the violent death in Damascus of Hizballah's military chief Imad Mughniyeh, which the Lebanese Shiite militia blaming Israel has sworn to avenge.

It is no wonder therefore that part of the Israeli reservist force called up for the Gaza operation is still under arms and a strong tank force surrounds Gaza's borders against any contingency.

This simmering stew will greet the Obama administration's new Middle East envoy, George Mitchell, when he launches his mission this week with visits to key capitals. He will find Jerusalem and Cairo moving forward with their agendas for the Gaza Strip following a script put together during the hiatus in Washington between two presidencies.
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Does anybody remember those telethons by Al-Jazeera? Now BBC's going the same route:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7850407.stm

So now BBC will be openly partisan, instead of outwardly denying its biases, because it will be launching so-called humanitarian appeals for the Palestinian side in the Gaza conflict.

Well, at least now they can throw away all pretenses of being "impartial" - as if they ever were.
How long before they start launching "humanitarian appeals" for Kashmir?
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asprinzl wrote:Napolean's background was Corsican criminal underground. There is no minor aristocratic heritage here.
It's true that he had no aristocratic heritage, but he was no criminal. Corsica was fighting for independence against Italian (the various provinces) and French monarchical rule. His father was part of the resistance and Napoleon grew up hating the French until he was admitted into their military schools.
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Hamas wartime rockets missed US anti-Iranian missile radar near Beersheba
Following orders from Tehran, the Palestinian Hamas used the cover of the 22-day Gaza conflict to aim rockets at the American Forward-Based X-band Transportable (FBX-T) anti-missile radar system lodged at Israel's big Nevatim air base east of the Negev capital Beersheba, DEBKA-Net-Weekly disclosed last week. Destruction of the FBX-T, which was installed last November to intercept incoming Iranian Shehab-3 ballistic missiles, would have crowned Hamas' offensive with success.

Jan. 18, two days before joining Israel's unilateral ceasefire, Hamas tried to hit the American facility with a salvo of 3 Grad rockets. They missed their aim, landing on empty ground west of Beersheba, without triggering the city's siren. The windy conditions that day may have spoiled their aim.

Our military sources reveal that the American X-band radar, which can track the path of any missile fired in the Middle East, worked hard during Operation Cast Lead, feeding the Israeli command with accurate advance information on the missiles and rockets aimed from Gaza at southern Israel and their trajectories.

It also tracked the rockets fired at Nahariya and Kiryat Shemona from Lebanon and kept watch for possible missile action from Syria and Iran.

But the American radar facility at Nevatim also kept Washington abreast of Israel's aerial, naval and missile activity in the course of the conflict. It was the first time the US knew what was going on in an Israel-Arab battle arena without recourse to outside electronic tracking devices.
BTW, the Israeli operation was lead by hundreds of palestinian collaborators, who were whisked away during the Hamas control period for training in a farm in Nahariya. Then they were re-inserted into the strip. They gave real time intel info to their handlers at Shin Bet. The info lead to the death of senior hamas leaders.

Update: It turns out that Palestinian Authority supplied the IDF with lot of its intelligence on precise whereabouts and maps of tunnels.
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"The Arabs".This reminds me of the film Lawrence of Arabia,where Anthony Quinn's (Auda Ibu Tayi) sarcasm at Lawrence's talk of his campaign for the "Arabs",saying that he had heard of this tribe or that, but the "Arabs?" was a delight. Arab disunity has been discussed threadbare for a century plus.I remember some interesting dinners on the diplo/pol circuit on the subject . Israel has little to worry about the "Arabs" forming a united front against it.Their national and tribal egos prevent them from working together at least like the Europeans.The danger comes from the unresolved Palestinian solution,where a sepaarte state has been agreed to,but has yet to be established in suitable ,sustainable form. As long as the Palestinians are dependent upon international handouts,the opportunity for their manipulation exists from vested interests.A Palestinian state without a viable economy is doomed and will perpetuate conflict with Israel.

Her is an interesting anecdote about Omar Sharif on the subject.

According to The Middle East Media Research Institute, Omar Sharif said the "East" will never have a democracy because people like him "prefer to go to the neighborhood sheikh, instead of Democracy." MEMRI posted an interview of Sharif that aired on the Al-Hayat TV network on June 8, 2008. In the interview, Sharif reportedly blasted U.S. policy in Iraq and said Americans are ignorant. Sharif also claimed to have spoken with U.S President, George W. Bush before the beginning of the Iraq War and told him that Arabs are not like regular people and that Arab nations are made up of sects resistant to becoming democratized.[7]
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Gunmen open fire outside US embassy in Yemen
No one was hurt. Security forces chased three men who opened fire from a car on a checkpoint outside the US embassy in Sanaa. All three were arrested. Hours before the attack, the embassy received a threat of an attacking coming "in the foreseeable future."

Al Qaeda was blamed for a double car-bomb attack on the US embassy in Yemen which killed 16 people last September.

This week, two former Guantanamo inmates appeared on an al Qaeda website video to affirm their dedication to jihad shortly after President Barack Obama signed a directive to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in Cuba within a year.

One is a Saudi man identified as Abu Sufyan al-Azdi al Shahri or Saeed Shihri, one of al Qaeda's top leaders in Yemen, who was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2007.

DEBKAfile adds: Against a commitment not to revert to terrorism, Shahri won a big Saudi grant for his "rehabilitation." He did indeed build a big house and take a wife but on the quiet resumed his affiliation with al Qaeda.

The second man on the video, Abu al-Hareth Muhammed al-Oufi, is an al Qaeda field commander. Another 245 prisoners await their release in the camp. According to the US Defense Department, as many as 61 former Guantanamo Bay detainees, about 11 percent of 520 inmates transferred or released so far, have rejoined al Qaeda's active ranks.
Israeli air force raids S. Gaza after Palestinian bomb kills an Israeli soldier
The Israeli soldier was killed and three others were injured, one seriously, Tuesday, Jan. 27, when Palestinians detonated a large explosive device against a routine Israeli military patrol near the Kissufim crossing a week after Israeli troops exited the Gaza Strip. Eight hours later, an Israeli air strike killed a Hamas operative involved in the attack on a motorbike near Khan Younis.

DEBKAfile's military sources expected further clashes after defense minister Ehud Barak warned that Israel would respond to the Palestinians' unacceptable breach of the ceasefire.

A week after Israeli forces exited the Gaza Strip, Palestinians Tuesday, Jan. 27, detonated a large explosive device against a routine Israeli military patrol near the Kissufim crossing. One soldier was killed and three were injured, one seriously. DEBKAfile's military sources expect further clashes after defense minister Ehud Barak warned that Israel would respond to the Palestinians' unacceptable breach of the ceasefire.

According to those sources, Hamas initiated the clash for the benefit of US president Barack Obama's Middle East envoy George Mitchell the day before he arrives for his first visit to the region. It was a reminder to Washington that hostilities in Gaza would not end so long as Washington ignores Hamas. The Palestinian Islamist terrorists will probably continue their attacks including resumed missile fire against Israel, to which the IDF is bound to respond.

But Hamas will be heartened by Israel's slow response. Israel's war planners, after declaring at the end of Operation Cast Lead that the IDF's deterrent strength had been repaired and it would take Hamas a very long time to revert to violence, ought to have kept instant reprisal plans ready to whip out for contingencies such as Tuesday's attack.

It was obvious quite soon that Hamas had not thrown in the towel, as DEBKAfile reported in its exclusive analysis Saturday Jan. 24. Click HERE.

They are reigniting the flames in Gaza to show the US president that his instruction to his envoy to stabilize the ceasefire is meaningless because neither he, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak or Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert can make a ceasefire hold without Hamas' concurrence.

So, whether or not Israel opts for restraint, Hamas will seek to underscore this point by escalating the violence, at the same time seeking to refute Israel's claim of restored deterrence. For these Palestinian extremists, the war on Israel is nowhere near over.

The time-lag between the Palestinian attack and Israel's response exposes Jerusalem's commitment to consult with Washington and Cairo before taking any further action under the understandings the reached over the Gaza operation. These understandings, reached by Israel's war troika, the prime minister, defense minister and foreign minister Tzipi Livni, are proving now too ungainly and unclear to fit the realities of Gaza and therefore ill-judged for the sort of rapid response Israel must make to stamp out Hamas' war initiatives.

Earlier, we reported that Israeli tanks fired shells into southern Gaza at the outset of the incident. The Palestinians reported one person killed.

Arab and Western media report Israeli infantry troops have entered the Gaza Strip and IDF helicopters are overhead.

This was the first major clash since Israel and the Palestinians declared separate ceasefires last week. After the Palestinian bombing attack Tuesday morning, the Israeli army closed the Gaza crossings to aid convoys scheduled to have transited Tuesday, as they did throughout the 22 days of Israel's Gaza operation.
IsDF once again wanted to take out the entire Hamas leadership in the Yarmuk camp in Syria. A compound of 15 houses, housing the senior leadership in the camp was the target. Once again Washington as in 2003 vetoed it.
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Hamas rejection of Egyptian truce plan augurs Gaza escalation
The approach of a fresh Gaza flare-up caused defense minister Ehud Barak to cancel his trip this week to Washington for talks with US defense secretary Robert Gates, DEBKAfile's military sources report.

As Barack Obama's Middle East envoy George Mitchell met with Israeli leaders in Jerusalem, Wednesday, Jan. 28, Hamas fired two Qassam missiles and several mortar rounds into southern Israel, while in Damascus its leaders rejected Cairo's plan for a long-term truce with Israel, demanding the reopening of all the Gaza crossings first.

The missiles and mortar shells fired from Gaza for the first time in the week since unilateral ceasefires went into effect landed harmlessly on open ground, but they carried a message: Hamas' rejection of Egypt's plan was compounded by the roadside bomb attack from Gaza which killed an Israeli soldier and injured three outside the Gaza Strip Tuesday. Hamas was signaling its intention to revert to pummeling southern Israel again with rockets and missiles if its armed forces resort to major retaliation for the roadside bomb. The short lull is therefore falling apart.

Until Hamas-Damascus slapped down its veto, Egypt had hoped for a long-term truce to begin on Feb. 5, followed by a power-sharing conference between the warring Palestinian factions on Feb. 22. The timeline was announced by Egyptian foreign minister Aboul Gheit.

But Hamas' rejection has taken Cairo back to square one. The Egyptians believe that a good military hiding by Israel will bring the Palestinian Islamist extremists back to the negotiation table in a more reasonable frame of mind. This situation prompted Barak's remark that another Hamas attack or two is to be expected soon.

Israeli and Egyptian leaders updated Mitchell and explained why the ceasefire which he sought to consolidate during his Middle East tour had become untenable. Cairo and Jerusalem were equally resigned to another round of hostilities before diplomacy could take off.

Our military sources stress that the Israeli air strike which killed a Hamas member of the bomb squad in Khan Younis Tuesday night and its bombardment of three Philadelphi Corridor smuggling tunnels early Wednesday were but a foretaste of the reprisals the Israel military has in store for curbing further Hamas aggression.
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More Jewish-Vatican problems.The Jewish community has for decades been very suspicious of the Vatican's intentions becuase of its behaviour during WW2,when the then Pope did nothing to publicly condemn the genocide going on.Post WW2,the Vatican was also accused of helping Nazis guilty of war crimes to escape using the Catholic Church ("Ratline").Siome religious experts say that the main aim of the Vatican is to regain the holy Christian sites in Jerusalem and thus be Christian "top dog" in the Holy Land,which are themselves mired in their own ownership probelms with various Christian denominations squabbling endlessly between themselves,even endangering the safety of these ancient buildings.The "Holy land" is englulfed in the most unholy of squabbles between Christians,Jews and Muslims against each other and within their faiths too.The Catholic Church's German Pope has at times been accused of being sympathetic to ultra conservative views.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 18711.html
Israel's top rabbis sever Vatican links

Wednesday, 28 January 2009

Israel's highest Jewish body severed ties with the Vatican today in protest at the Pope's decision to reinstate a bishop who publicly denied millions of Jews were killed during the Holocaust.

Briton Richard Williamson and three other bishops were excommunicated 20 years ago after right-wing Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre consecrated them without papal consent.

In an effort to bring Lefebvre's traditionalist society back within the fold, the pope lifted their ban on Saturday, provoking an uproar among Jews who deplore Williamson's views.

Israel's chief rabbinate wrote to the Holy See today expressing "sorrow and pain" at the decision. "It will be very difficult for the chief rabbinate of Israel to continue its dialogue with the Vatican as before," the letter said.

The rabbinate also cancelled a meeting with the Vatican set for March.

About six million Jews were systematically murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators during the Second World War.

The Pope's decision to reinstate the bishops came just days after Williamson told Swedish TV that evidence "is hugely against six million Jews being deliberately gassed." Williamson said 300,000 Jews were killed at most "but not one of them by gassing in a gas chamber."

The Holocaust is an extremely sensitive issue in Israel where about 240,000 survivors live. Holocaust denial is illegal in many countries.

Today the Pope expressed his "full and indisputable solidarity" with Jews and warned against any denial of the horror of the Holocaust.

The Vatican and the rabbinate launched formal relations in 2000 when Pope John Paul II visited Jerusalem. Since then delegates from the Holy See and the rabbinate have met twice a year to discuss religious issues.

The Vatican and Israel have had a delicate relationship since establishing diplomatic ties in 1993.
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