Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Apr 2013 20:25

Also the BackPaki circled in red in this image has the same INOX cooker dome sticking out of his backpack
http://i.imgur.com/kXPxQFk.jpg

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 17 Apr 2013 20:26

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... loded.html

The lid of a pressure cooker was found on a nearby rooftop and investigators were able to pinpoint which type of cooker was used.

One brand of pressure cooker with '6L' on the bottom is made by the Spanish company Fagor, which sells about 50,000 of the six-liter pots in the United States every year, according to the New York Times.

This gives investigators a real chance to narrow down their list of suspects - which they said yesterday was 'wide open' - and find out who is responsible for the worst attacks on U.S. soil since 9/11.

They will use every clue, from the cooker's manufacturer and retailers to the types of nails used in the shrapnel, to try and find out from where the bomb parts were purchased and by whom.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Apr 2013 20:29

I saw the kuhn rikhon one I have at home, the markings are actually telling it can be used on GAS, ELECTRIC or INDUCTION ranges.

Actually, the fagor brand is still in my amazon wishlist.. was planning to buy one for mother after her prestige cooker blew up at home.. very scared of these type of cookers man!

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 20:31

More possibilities/clues from the images. I'm sure given the cumulative image collections provided by individuals present at the marathon, something will be revealed hopefully.

Supposedly the partially visible backpack is where the blast mark was located in several other images.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 17 Apr 2013 20:34

ARRESTS IN PAKISTAN, AFGHANISTAN' IN BOMBING PROBE
TEL AVIV – An al-Qaida-allied group in the Gaza Strip claimed to WND that there have been arrests of jihadists in both Pakistan and Afghanistan as part of the probe into yesterday’s Boston Marathon explosions.

The arrests could not be immediately confirmed.

Members of Gaza’s Jihadiya Salafia group further said that al-Qaida is being credited for the attack in its affiliated online forums.

The Gaza sources told WND the online al-Qaida forum messages claimed the bombings were an al-Qaida response to a U.S. military airstrike that killed a high-profile Taliban leader and four other Taliban members last week near Afghanistan’s eastern border with Pakistan.

Jihadia Salafia represents al-Qaida in Gaza.

It was not immediately clear whether the Internet claims should be taken seriously or simply represented jihadists utilizing the explosions.

....

TIFWIW .

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Apr 2013 20:36

Termites gloating that the elephant is pregnant?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2013 20:36

Those two gents do not look like typical tspians or gulf arabs. More like jordanian, lebanese, berber types...taller, fairer, more tfta looking.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Apr 2013 20:40

Singha wrote:Those two gents do not look like typical tspians or gulf arabs. More like jordanian, lebanese, berber types...taller, fairer, more tfta looking.

sad innit?

A nice Paki looking fellow would have been ideal

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Apr 2013 20:43

North African... Tunisia, Moroccan, Algeria, Libya - by features could be from any one of these. Especially the guy n blue... The other guy is probably better educated, a higher social strata... But from same area.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 20:44

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JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 17 Apr 2013 20:44

No worries doc... No more than 3 degrees of separation guaranteed.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2013 20:45

Yes the blue guy looks like a sportsman cum enforcer type, the other one more of a planner and quiet leader. Pretty sharp looking red nike sneakers that. The blue guy is prolly trained in martial arts and trained to kill usong knives upward.

And yesh probably an alum of the "lawless tribal areas" of tsp like every one of these special forces.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 17 Apr 2013 20:54

Everyone says it's Pakistan. But beyond that is the source of all Jihadi activities. It's Saudi Arabia. The day Saudi Arabia is gone from the map of this world, that day all terrorism will end on it's own. Saudi is the main ideological source of all Jihadi activities worldwide. Saudi need to be targetted for their barbaric ways.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 17 Apr 2013 21:06

uddu wrote:Everyone says it's Pakistan. But beyond that is the source of all Jihadi activities. It's Saudi Arabia. The day Saudi Arabia is gone from the map of this world, that day all terrorism will end on it's own. Saudi is the main ideological source of all Jihadi activities worldwide. Saudi need to be targetted for their barbaric ways.

Pakistan and Saudi are needed for US. To keep the puppet regimes alive and also screw the current and future economic/geo-political competetors these are allowed to have jihadi factories. However, US has to manage these factories so that they don't deliver products in west and US. Even if the miss happens, it is okay to have rare delivery in Europe but it has to be rarest of the rare to US. What happened so far in about a quarter century is that rarest of the rare. But US did have best dividends as a super power.

Being critical of US and complaining that someone else is not critical of US is all hawa hawa. It is impossible to fight the bigger power and India has only one option and that is fight on attirition basis. Before bheema came the villagers worked out an attirition model with bakasura. India is that village and US is the bakasura. Until India gets the bheema it will have to send a truckload of food, two buffalows and a human for bakasura's consumption.

{loss of life etc are all bs in the bigger power game. I don't get sentimental on this aspect anymore.}

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Apr 2013 21:09

normally water bottles are carried on the side pouch. what is that with turquoise lid? it does not appear like a water bottle either.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2013 21:15

Looks to me like blue powerade in left bag. In right bag a bottle of some juice, maybe pomello? , a small tin of
Mints and a packet of something. Typical tourist type stuff.
Or maybe that green bottle has pickled gherkins or cucumber slices

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 17 Apr 2013 21:42

SaiK wrote:
shiv wrote:Do security agencies in America regularly ask citizens to be wary of unattended baggage like they do in India?
if you are referring to airports, my answer would be yes. in fact, every airport i have visited, at periodic interval (say 5 minutes interval) they keep announcing.. is this what you are referring too?

Also, they have police with K9s making rounds of the airport - at least this was the case a few years back. I don't travel much so don't know.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Apr 2013 21:51

I think shiv ji was pointing more in general rather airports. malls are generally places under CCTV constant, like any big stores.. even petty thieves will be on net on these cameras.

of course, the concern here is if there is any constant announcement to report about suspicious packages or bags.. now that is only done at airports and perhaps amtracks and passenger railways.

But, I doubt in desh we have such a setup to announce everywhere other than airports or transportation places. This should be true world over.. generally speaking, normal massan behavior i have observed is to treat all unattended packages are suspicious and alert immediately or inquire whose package is this? if not call 911.

now in a crowded place, this may not be possible as one might think, the bag belongs to adjacent person who is staying next to the bag. It could be possible, as I said earlier, that after placing the bag in the crowd, it would not have take more than a minute for the terrorist to escape... and had lesser chance to attract people to inquire about the bag which has no ownership. so, in my deductions, not more than a minute before explosion, pics should reveal the person holding the bag. left it to explode within a minute, and scooted from there. highly plausible.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:05

Not sure if this was posted but yet another possibility/twist? Below link is from yesterday.
Westboro Baptist

The members of the notorious Westboro Baptist Church, perhaps the most hated group in America, are publicly celebrating the Boston Marathon Explosion and already have plans to protest the funerals of the people who died in the bombings.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 17 Apr 2013 22:06

SaiK wrote:normally water bottles are carried on the side pouch. what is that with turquoise lid? it does not appear like a water bottle either.

Looks like a bottle of Kikkoman's low-sodium soy sauce (picture here), but the material inside it doesn't look like soy sauce, more like some kinda spice. Another thing it closely resembles is a bottle of Mrs. Dash seasoning spices (pictures here). The other rectangular object looks like a box of red chili powder, paprika, black pepper or some other spice too (e.g. something like this. If that was indeed the guilty person, I wonder if he was carrying these along for a cover story in case he was searched (e.g.) claim that he's going to friend's house for dinner and bringing some cooking items and ingredients. Besides, chili powder, paprika etc. are often used to throw off sniffer dogs.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Apr 2013 22:07

It was posted. All kind of wackos are there.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:15

ramana wrote:It was posted. All kind of wackos are there.

Ok thanks. Concur.

And now this. I guess someone trying to pass this one thinking it'll be blamed on the boston bomber(s)? Who knows.
Ricin Also Suspected in Letter to Obama

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2013 22:19

Pretty smart planning showing off those spices.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 17 Apr 2013 22:20

Pakistan Taliban deny involvement with Boston explosions

China media: shocked at the death of a Chinese student in the Boston marathon bombings and call on the US to end "double standards" on terrorism.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Apr 2013 22:21

I don't understand the chinese call.

vasu raya · Post by **vasu raya** » 17 Apr 2013 22:21

once their mugshots are out they are done for unless they know how to live in jungles for sometime.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 17 Apr 2013 22:22

to me it looks like an orange juice bottle.

The small bottle on this page but with a green cap. It is available in green color in almost all supermarkets.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Apr 2013 22:23

Maybe they already crossed canada border into quebec in aftermath nd onboard a freighter now.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Apr 2013 22:24

So, a cooker with explosives, OJ/pickle bottler, some instruction sheet, and the mint box (could be the remote control)... then?

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:28

Supposedly 'Anonymous' hacked Westboro Baptist FB page.

Westboro_FB

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 17 Apr 2013 22:30

seeing the pictures, the pressure cooker itself acted as a directional explosive (the container containing majority of the explosion) and the lid going off, makes the explosion upward directed... luckily it reduced the number of casualties... imagine all those shrapnel going towards the crowd...

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:31

CNN announcing that they have identified 1 suspect.
Suspect_Possibly_Identified

CNN) -- Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, a source who has been briefed on the investigation told CNN's John King exclusively.

The breakthrough came from analysis of video from a department store near the site of the second explosion. Video from a Boston television station also contributed to the progress, said the source, who declined to be more specific but called it a significant development.

Earlier, a federal law enforcement source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN that a lid to a pressure cooker thought to have been used in the bombings had been found on a roof of a building near the scene.

While such clues may move the investigation forward, they did not reveal whether the attack was an act of domestic or foreign terrorism.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:39

Yet another image from the finish line.

WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGE!!!

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 17 Apr 2013 22:41

Expanding on ArmenT's theory of pickles, Paprika, which cuisine uses these kinds of ingredients and cook in a PC? Also, the three or four people in the pictures look WASPs to me but JEM's N. Africa theory may be more probable as I don't have much idea how they look like.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 17 Apr 2013 22:41

Various news sources reporting that the person has been identified
d. Nes conference at 5 pm today. Person is described as "dark skinned" by CNN . Lord and Taylor video...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Apr 2013 22:47

Yes CNN is saysing suspect identified from two videos:dept store and a Boston TV station.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 17 Apr 2013 22:49

Supposedly 4chan/Anonymous helped in the process and then information was passed to the MSM.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 17 Apr 2013 22:54

Fox news and others are now confirming that their sources are now confirming that the person has been not only identified but are saying that arrest is "imminent" .. (In all probability person is in custody)... anyway we will know pretty soon. News Conference is scheduled for 5 PM (Boston time)

(Now they are reoporting that they got the person and he is on his way to court or something)

(There is an image quite spread on internet but some news channels will wait for a few hours till the news conference)t

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 17 Apr 2013 22:58

ArmenT wrote: If that was indeed the guilty person, I wonder if he was carrying these along for a cover story in case he was searched (e.g.) claim that he's going to friend's house for dinner and bringing some cooking items and ingredients. Besides, chili powder, paprika etc. are often used to throw off sniffer dogs.

Good point on the sniffer dogs.

However, I think that's as far as it went. If he was actually searched, the "going to friend's house to cook" would not have got him very far when they opened the (full & heavy) pressure cooker. What would he say then... "but this is my ammijaan's recipe for ball-bearing nihari!"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Apr 2013 22:59

Arrest has been made
Atlantic wire reports.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... tim/64302/