chetak wrote: ↑08 Sep 2024 17:03
sanman ji,
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per wiki
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Nuland visited Delhi in March 2022 and suggested that there was an "evolution of thinking in India." She said that the US and Europe should be "defense and security partners" of India, and that Russia's invasion of Ukraine presents a "major inflection point in the autocratic-democratic struggle."[50]
India, BTW, has been secretly meeting with israel since at least the 1950s, and these meetings have always been held outside of India
It is only relatively recently that India has come out of the closet and openly acknowledged support for israel because all these days our foreign and trade policies were influenced by the sunni and shia vote banks (on which the congis have been dependent since before independence) controlled from the gulf and eyeraan respectively ....
Modiji has effectively pulverized the reach and poisonous influences of all these external entities and completely nullified them as considerations in India's policy concerns, be it external or internal policies
There is far more out there if one only cared to do the basic research
But you definitely have an agenda that is playing out.
Please hear me out on my agenda, and on my research.
A young Victoria Nuland began serving at the US State Dept in the early years of BJ Clinton's whitehouse. She was a graduate in Russian language studies and political science. She was also a disciple of his Secretary of State, Madeleine Notbright.
As a result of BJ Clinton's and Madeleine Notbright's failed Middle East "peace process", Israel faced a massive upsurge in violence from the Palestinian Intifada, which put Israel on the back foot.
This caused massive alarm & concern among the wider diaspora of Israel supporters (This includes not only Jews, but also those who call themselves 'Christian Zionists')
They were in a tizzy about the whole situation, but without a clear direction yet on what to do.
After Bush-Cheney whitehouse came to power, a windfall opportunity soon occurred in the form of the 9/11 attacks, which were promptly seized upon by the Israel-supporters, who saw it as their big opportunity to
"make the world safe for Israel". They then crystallized into the avatar called "NeoCons", espousing rampant use of American hard power in the "War on Terror" (especially in parts of the world relevant to Israel)
Victoria Nuland was among these people, as was her husband Robert Kagan, and their entire family. She became NSA in the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, the more active part of the Bush-Cheney whitehouse where most of the decisions were made.
So although US had immediately invaded Afghanistan, since that was where the 9/11 attacks originated from, the NeoCons quickly declared "Mission Accomplished" over there, insisting that Iraq's Saddam Hussein was the real source of the 9/11 attacks, and therefore must be invaded.
European countries, especially France, quickly protested that this was preposterous, as Saddam was a Baath socialist who had no ties to the fundamentalist AlQaeda.
After a quick re-think, the NeoCons then switched arguments to declare that Saddam was building nuclear weapons, or some other conveniently ill-defined peril ("WMD")
US Secretary of State Colin Powell refused to sign off on the nuke story, so he was forced out, and replaced with the more cooperative Condoleeza Rice (a disciple of Notbright's father, Jozeph Korbel), who readily supported the decision to invade Iraq, resulting in millions of deaths needlessly.
You may remember Condi Rice for shrieking against Modi over the Gujarat Riots ("Hey everybody - pay no attention to the millions of deaths I caused! Everybody look at Modi instead! He's the real Satan!")
You may also remember how NeoCon Bill Krystol led a delegation to India to talk to our MEA, soliciting Indian help with the Iraq occupation. In return he made big promises on gifting us Kashmir. Our babus gave him a patient hearing, but he ultimately left empty-handed. This was reported in India Today, India's premier gossip-rag at the time.
But while NeoCons are good at starting new wars like Iraq invasion, they're of course not very competent at fighting or winning them. That's left for lesser minds to worry about. They just cared about "
making the world safe for Israel" by killing its enemies like Saddam, etc.
After the Bush-Cheney admin left and the Obama whitehouse came in, Nuland then served there too, under Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Nuland is the most prominent person to have served in senior foreign policy roles under both Democrat & Republican admins.
It didn't take long before Obama admin decided to give Arabs their Colour Revolutions with Arab Spring. (again, "
making the world safe for Israel")
And just so that we Indian sand-n!ggers wouldn't feel excluded and left out, they sent us Kejriwal for Lokpal Spring in India.
Obama also told Modi to retain Chidambaram's appointee Raghuram Rajan (on the strength of Chidambaram's own famously noble character & virtue, no doubt)
With that Arab Spring came the targeting and overthrow of Libya's Qadafi - again spearheaded by Nuland under Hillary. (again, "
making the world safe for Israel")
Note that US had made peace with Qadafi in the wake of 9/11, burying the hatchet with him. But when the opportunity arose, Nuland made sure to quickly unbury that hatchet and then bury it in his back. You may remember that the US ambassador to Libya died in the process, during the Benghazi fiasco, which Nuland was responsible for. But that doesn't matter to the special interest lobbies that see to the appointments of those like Nuland. The safety of US personnel and the preservation of US interests are the least of their concerns, since their prime focus is in "
making the world safe for Israel"
And then simultaneously, as part of Arab Spring, came Nuland's big attempt to similarly overthrow the Assad regime in Syria (again, "
making the world safe for Israel")
But we all saw how that was completely thwarted by Putin's deployment of the Russian military to save his valued Syrian client.
All those "regime change specialists" and their puny jihadi games were soon obliterated under the withering onslaught of Russia's overwhelming firepower.
So that's why Nuland and her NeoCon cronies targeted Russia by going after Ukraine, which they knew full well to be a sensitive fault line and vulnerable spot for Russia. Their regime change in Kyiv is what's triggered the Russia-Ukraine war, and abruptly reignited this new Cold War 2.0
And that's now led to India suffering its turn at being put in the crosshairs. We can't just throw away our ties with Russia on someone else's whim - not even for powerful Neocons whom you quoted in red. We have a lot invested in these ties which our national security depends upon, and we cannot just throw them away in 5 seconds, merely because you and Nuland and State Dept Sepoy Dalip Singh tell us to.
Seeing us as uncooperative, these hyper-aggressive hair-triggered NeoCons have now done their latest Colour Revolution Regime Change in Dhaka, effectively putting a knife to India's throat.
So while I don't innately bear any hostility to fellow targets of jihad like Israelis, I nevertheless cannot accept anyone throwing India under a bus.
Do you see my rationale and basis for concern?
