Re: India-US Relations : News and Discussion
Posted: 17 Feb 2015 22:08
Swastika - that will teach them vegetarian raping nazi hindoos. Irony oh the irony.
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Come on, it is turned around. That makes all the difference!matrimc wrote:Swastika - that will teach them vegetarian raping nazi hindoos. Irony oh the irony.
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Meanwhile has U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom (USCIRF) Chairman Katrina Lantos Swett who is ever ready to castigate India, and who gleefully jumped in to support US President Obama’s comment about India said anything to condemn this lack of protections for a Hindu temple?
That was Jonathan Ferrell a former Florida A&M football player (and black of course).ramana wrote:In a roundabout way the victim is being blamed. No its lack of English. Next what color? The real problem is he neighbor who called in the police. Afer that all bets are off. I recall a Florida football player had a car breakdown and kn coked on someone's door for help. She called police who pumped him with many bullets.
Will ge name and details if anyone wants.
Luck puts me in the wrong place at the wrong time. I also dont forget.Karan M wrote:^^ shreeman, wow where do you find such stuff?
By me.ramana wrote:It was posted right here during the Ferguson cops outrage...
But since the 12th century, starting with the Islamic invasions and colonizing European missionaries to today, India faces a different kind of religious visitor -- one that seeks not to sweeten the milk, but curdle it.Exhibit A -- the evangelical Joshua Project -- is just one example of what India, at the heart of the 10-40 Window, is facing. The Joshua Project is an information powerhouse -- detailing logistical information about people groups around the world, and providing ideas to Evangelicals committed to mass church-planting, and in turn conversions, among every ethnic group. The data is meticulous and well-researched, and both shocking and disturbing.The Joshua Project lists the percentage of unreached in India as 93.3% -- that's basically every Indian Hindu, Muslim, Jain, Sikh, and Buddhist. Last-name, clan, caste, or tribe-based communities are catalogued according to location, religious affiliation, language, and population -- the data collection puts the postal systems of most developed nations to shame. Technical acronyms such as CPI, or Church Planting Indicator, with a ranking system of 0 to 5, measure the progress of church growth based on churches established and number of "believers" regularly attending. Then there's the progress scale which allows the "Saved" to track, well ... "progress" of the "Harvest" -- red indicating less than 2% Evangelical and less than 5% Christian, yellow indicating less than 2% Evangelical but greater than 5% Christian, and green indicating from 2% to greater than 5% Evangelical. And of course, what worldwide project of this scale and in this century would be complete without an iPhone App?The response by a few states in India to campaigns inspired by projects like Joshua, and what can be characterized as nothing less than primarily American and European faith-based ops intended to alter Indian religious demographics, has been what most outside of India refer to as "anti-conversion" laws. Interestingly, many of these same states, as well as Indian states with rising inter-religious tension, when cross-checked with the Joshua Project's "progress" scale, are states that show increasing green and yellow. Some may ask, what's the big deal? Doesn't the 2001 Indian census indicate only 2.3% of the population as Christian? Yes, but these percentages have come under question given the fact that a large number of converts retain their Hindu names and claim Hindu status for a variety of reasons. The data from Joshua Project, which doesn't account for non-Evangelical efforts, also suggests rapid growth.
"Another friend of his, Anthony Bowling, reached out to AL.com. Bowling said their friendship through Brewer High School and the University of Alabama in Huntsville, has made them as close as "brothers." He said they were roommates from 2012 to 2014.
Bowling, who said he spoke to Parker early on Friday, did not speak about the case itself. But Bowling offered his feelings on Parker as a dedicated officer who only wanted to help people.
"One hundred percent he went in for the right reasons," he said.
He said the almost two years Parker spent on the force were what he always wanted to do. He said friends felt Parker was overqualified with his political science degree, but Parker was enthusiastic to take his entrance exams and was all too anxious for their results."
And a funding page has been set up, it's currently at about 30% from the $10K goal.
US companies are hopeful that the Narendra Modi government will take a fresh look at the issue of signing US foundational agreements for transfer of military technology and weapons, according to a top Boeing official.
"I hope the new government will take a fresh look at it. I think it is India's advantage to do so. It will really ease a lot of government to government transactions," said retired US Air Force Lt General and Boeing's vice presedent for International Business Development Defense Space and Security.
The UPA government had refused to sign the agreements. "It will also build more trust on the US side that India does recognise and take more seriously some security issues around very sensitive technology," Kohler, here for the ongoing five-day Aero India air show, told PTI.
US law requires the country to sign three agreements - logistics support, CISMOA (Communications Interoperability and Security Memorandum of Agreement) and BECA (Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for geo-spatial cooperation) - before agreeing to transfer sophisticated military technology and weapons.
Kohler said the change the new government made to increase FDI to 49 per cent was a very positive step, but things wouldn't happen overnight.
Kohler was earlier Director of the US' Defense Security Cooperation Agency that is tasked with directing and overseeing American foreign military sales along with other functions.
Kohler said "Even "Make In India" may not move as fast as some Indians would like to see because it takes time."He said "You just don't jump into the global supply chain as a top supplier with no experience. So you have to start small and build the way up."
Kohler said the workforce and management have to understand that they have to be competitive in the global market - by having the best product at the lowest cost.
"The workforce and management have to understand that they have to be competitive in the global market - I have to have the best product at the lowest cost, and Indian companies are going to help a lot there. It takes time to build up experience and know-how to get that done," he added.
Kohler said US companies are definitely ready to share their intellectual property with countries for them to produce the product.
Right now, Kohler said, what India needs is to be part of global supply chain, not necessarily niche defence products. "The Indian industry needs most right now is to be a part of global supply chain, not necessarily niche defence products, but get into the global supply chain," he added.
Explaining the need for signing foundational agreements, Kohler said, "During the discussions with Indian counterparts when I was with the US government, I had said - suppose India sells the Brahmos to country A and then it sells to country B and then to country C and that country sells to them who are at your border - How do you feel? There will be security problems," he said.
"India needs to protect their technology so that it does not fall in wrong hands and is used against it some day. These are the issues that India has to sort it out," Kohler added.
Asked about the future of Indo-US defence cooperation, Kohler said defence technology and trade initiative Modi and US President Barack Obama talked about has been very positive.
"I think the defence technology and trade initiative Prime Minister Modi and President Obama talked about is very positive. They selected a couple of projects," he said.
He said he is very excited about the future, but in some ways they are little hindered by some offset policies, in spite of making steady progress.
"In some ways we are little hindered by some of the offset policies, although are making steady progress where we need to be," he added.
However, Kohler said it does not mean that US companies don't want to do offsets."I don't mean that US companies don't want to do offsets. We do that in the world. We just accept that as a part of business internationally, but there has been so much promise in India," he added.
Asked whether US companies are ready to pump in money and set up units in India and share the technology know-how when the Indian government has been stressing on "Make In India" policy, Kohler said that the US government and its companies are willing to share "small amounts" of sensitive technology.
"US companies and US government are willing to share very small amount of sensitive technology. Share - and let the Indian government use it, but may be not teach everything about how to build it," he said.
Kohler, moreover, said the US would definitely want partners, but business dynamics does not allow giving away all their technology because they are in the business of making money to continue their growth.
The problem with this was recently seen in Russia where the US ordered all its companies out -- the equivalent of pulling the economic run from under a nation -- India would have to diversify its trade relationships to the point where such an act by any one country cannot harm its economy in serious ways.Right now, Kohler said, what India needs is to be part of global supply chain, not necessarily niche defence products. "The Indian industry needs most right now is to be a part of global supply chain, not necessarily niche defence products, but get into the global supply chain," he added.
Sau chuhe kha ke, billi hajj ko chali!Explaining the need for signing foundational agreements, Kohler said, "During the discussions with Indian counterparts when I was with the US government, I had said - suppose India sells the Brahmos to country A and then it sells to country B and then to country C and that country sells to them who are at your border - How do you feel? There will be security problems," he said.
The US doesn't have a lot of supply chain entities in Russia. They mostly sold finished goods there. What hurt the Russians was the capital flight and exclusion from the international currency and transaction clearance system. It appears they depend on external interbank networks, rather than maintain an independent one. They were also blocked out from SWIFT. Those are the kind of things that hurt. It's more imperative that India have its own interbank network rather than leverage LINK, Pule, STAR, VISA or some other western one. The Chinese have one, called UnionPay. The Chinese and Russians are also working on an alternative to SWIFT . Having US businesses invest in fixed assets in India is actually a benefit to us, because we can also threaten to confiscate them. It's their control over capital flows that's more dangerous.Tuvaluan wrote:The problem with this was recently seen in Russia where the US ordered all its companies out -- the equivalent of pulling the economic run from under a nation -- India would have to diversify its trade relationships to the point where such an act by any one country cannot harm its economy in serious ways.
That should happen in millions. That is the real long term way to save India and the World. Indic values are still one of the best out there.Shreeman wrote:If Indians have the means to travel, visit, or settle then they should do so. To the farthest possible lands, and despite these hurdles.
Wow, that is something. Look at the nice interactive site they have:Jhujar wrote:The Question Of Evangelism In India
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suhag-a-s ... tml?ref=twBut since the 12th century, starting with the Islamic invasions and colonizing European missionaries to today, India faces a different kind of religious visitor -- one that seeks not to sweeten the milk, but curdle it.Exhibit A -- the evangelical Joshua Project -- is just one example of what India, at the heart of the 10-40 Window, is facing. The Joshua Project is an information powerhouse -- detailing logistical information about people groups around the world, and providing ideas to Evangelicals committed to mass church-planting, and in turn conversions, among every ethnic group. The data is meticulous and well-researched, and both shocking and disturbing.The Joshua Project lists the percentage of unreached in India as 93.3% -- that's basically every Indian Hindu, Muslim, Jain, Sikh, and Buddhist. Last-name, clan, caste, or tribe-based communities are catalogued according to location, religious affiliation, language, and population -- the data collection puts the postal systems of most developed nations to shame. Technical acronyms such as CPI, or Church Planting Indicator, with a ranking system of 0 to 5, measure the progress of church growth based on churches established and number of "believers" regularly attending. Then there's the progress scale which allows the "Saved" to track, well ... "progress" of the "Harvest" -- red indicating less than 2% Evangelical and less than 5% Christian, yellow indicating less than 2% Evangelical but greater than 5% Christian, and green indicating from 2% to greater than 5% Evangelical. And of course, what worldwide project of this scale and in this century would be complete without an iPhone App?The response by a few states in India to campaigns inspired by projects like Joshua, and what can be characterized as nothing less than primarily American and European faith-based ops intended to alter Indian religious demographics, has been what most outside of India refer to as "anti-conversion" laws. Interestingly, many of these same states, as well as Indian states with rising inter-religious tension, when cross-checked with the Joshua Project's "progress" scale, are states that show increasing green and yellow. Some may ask, what's the big deal? Doesn't the 2001 Indian census indicate only 2.3% of the population as Christian? Yes, but these percentages have come under question given the fact that a large number of converts retain their Hindu names and claim Hindu status for a variety of reasons. The data from Joshua Project, which doesn't account for non-Evangelical efforts, also suggests rapid growth.
The test/metric is: What is the position of the culture on killing another human being. And if you must, as a last resort, does it afford the remains any due dignity.matrimc wrote:SwamyG[uru]: What are "Indic values" and using what metric are they "one of the best out there"?
I actually know the officer involved in this incident. He doesn't have a facebook, but I am friends with his wife on facebook and she has stated that he was terminated on that Friday without pay. I have a screen shot of her facebook post with their names removed if someone would like to imbed it. It seems to me like he might have lost it on this old guy and the department terminated him almost immediately, but are dragging out the announcement of it to let things cool down some?
FWIW, the officer is an older guy (mid 50's) and small in stature. I've known him for about 15 years and have a really hard time thinking he actually did that. He hadn't worked for Madison PD very long, but has previous LE experience.
I agree with that metric. Is it a defining feature of indic values then?Shreeman wrote:The test/metric is: What is the position of the culture on killing another human being. And if you must, as a last resort, does it afford the remains any due dignity.matrimc wrote:SwamyG[uru]: What are "Indic values" and using what metric are they "one of the best out there"?
The rank is : 1.