Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 24 Mar 2013 22:02

Sushupti wrote:BJP is screwed. Looks like NDA+ dream of Lohpurush will come true but at the cost of BJP-

Drunk or what ??? These are pressure tactics being employed by SP so as to keep con in check. It's a small threat like saying listen to me or else....

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 24 Mar 2013 22:11

Sagar G wrote:
Sushupti wrote:BJP is screwed. Looks like NDA+ dream of Lohpurush will come true but at the cost of BJP-
Drunk or what ??? These are pressure tactics being employed by SP so as to keep con in check. It's a small threat like saying listen to me or else....

Maybe but unless LohPurush says something to disassociate himself from these praises it will hurt BJP prospects very badly.

Congress is going for Upper caste as proven by Beni verma antics.

Beni Prasad Verma: Brazen, blunt and blessed by Rahul Gandhi

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/beni- ... i/1091732/

So Con is readying their BC face, where is BJP's?. With the praise from Mulayam, it will just confirm the doubts in the mind of UCs regarding BJP whether it will stand up to Mulayam. If you are smart stay away from Mulayam at least in public perception.Even SP workers are very much pissed off at their party now days.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 24 Mar 2013 22:13

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 24 Mar 2013 22:21

Sushupti wrote:Maybe but unless LohPurush says something to disassociate himself from these praises it will hurt BJP prospects very badly.

Why shall he say something at all by remaining silent about it he is doing fine, he is not giving any attention to them. Let mullah yadav sing songs about him.

Sushupti wrote:Congress is going for Upper caste as proven by Beni verma antics.

I hate discussing caste politics but for the sake of it his antics are no guarantee that upper castes are going to vote for congress.

Sushupti wrote:With the praise from Mulayam, it will just confirm the doubts in the mind of UCs regarding BJP whether it will stand up to Mulayam. If you are smart stay away from Mulayam at least in public perception.Even SP workers are very much pissed off on their party now days.

You are reading too much into this I am pretty sure most people won't even know about mullah yadav's comments about Advani so forget about them being affected by the same and didn't the UC vote en masse for SP in the recent polls. Why and what is the "grouse" now ???

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 24 Mar 2013 22:25

Btw beni is deep into caste politics and he is in thAt regard
Anti UC. Why would UC believe him? Bad analysis

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 24 Mar 2013 22:33

Sushupti Ji, UC have voted for Mayawati and Mulayam... so if Mulayam praises the one who "presided over destruction of babri".. that would not hurt BJP in any way. OTOH, this would confuse Muslims.

As sagar ji said, this is meant for Congress.

BTW, we shouldn't worry about this guy :-

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 24 Mar 2013 23:27

fanne wrote:Btw beni is deep into caste politics and he is in thAt regard
Anti UC. Why would UC believe him? Bad analysis

UC will believe congress not him. He is being used to attack Mulayam so that Mulayam can't tag Cong anti-BC while coneying the message to the UC (specially Bs) that Congress is ready to take on Mulayam. I am not saying this is going to happen in reality but there is chance this may happen, given Mulayam's praise (now his brother as well) of Loh Purush and Loh Purush keeping mum (Monam Sweekar Lakshanam).

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 24 Mar 2013 23:34

anmol wrote:Sushupti Ji, UC have voted for Mayawati and Mulayam... so if Mulayam praises the one who "presided over destruction of babri".. that would not hurt BJP in any way. OTOH, this would confuse Muslims.

As sagar ji said, this is meant for Congress.

BTW, we shouldn't worry about this guy :-

After Jinnah episode Loh Pursh joined the "inclusive statesman" league he isn't that Hindutva eyesore anymore. Mulayam can sell support to Lohpurush as preventing Modi from PM, pretty much repeat of ABV Vs LKA. IMO, all in all very dangerous game as far as Modi to PM mission is concerned.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 24 Mar 2013 23:48

Sagar G wrote: You are reading too much into this I am pretty sure most people won't even know about mullah yadav's comments about Advani so forget about them being affected by the same and didn't the UC vote en masse for SP in the recent polls. Why and what is the "grouse" now ???

Sir, we are talking about BJP's resurrection in UP so that it can hit at least 35+. And in MP elections their first preference will always be either BJP or congress. Specially, if just within a year of Mulayam has revived the memories of his pre 2007 rule why would you appear in collusion with Mulayam and brighten the prospects of Congress?.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 25 Mar 2013 00:18

Sushupti wrote:Sir, we are talking about BJP's resurrection in UP so that it can hit at least 35+. And in MP elections their first preference will always be either BJP or congress.

I don't have high hopes for BJP's performance in UP for the people there seem to be going through there period of sekoolarism. Which MP you are talking about Member of Parliament or Madhya Pradesh ???

Sushupti wrote:Specially, if just within a year of Mulayam has revived the memories of his pre 2007 rule why would you appear in collusion with Mulayam and brighten the prospects of Congress?.

Where is BJP appearing in collusion with mullah ??? He is involved in sucking upto Advani and Advani has said nothing in kind in return nor has even BJP responded in kind, as I said before you are seeing too much into this.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Mar 2013 00:34

But the whole goal of Mullah Yadav is to confuse BJP voters. They will keep doubting what if I vote for Modi but BJP goes and makes Advani PM. Mullah is pooping in his pants. He is scared of Modi just like CON ITALIAN MAFIA. That's why Kushwant to Mullah are suddenly all in praise for Advani. Advani will play the game. He wants to make sure BJP is no where and the ITALAIN madam is in power if Modi is accepted candidate. He will do every thing to thwart Modi's plans. Advani's mantra is "If I go down, I will take the whole BJP with me". You will now see Katju to Mani Shaknar to every lefty moron singing the praises of Advani. The PAID MEDIA will magnify the statement of asst. dy. sub. vice president of RSS unit in Naintal district's "No Name town's" 13th ward RSS sakha about the praise of Advani.

The Islamic fanatics, Islamic terrorists, ISI agents in the media, ISI managed Fiberals all are scared to see the reaction of common man to Modi. Advani will be very happy to destroy the dreams of Indians and India. In his mind, he is doing no wrong. Either me or that ITALIAN will be his idea.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 25 Mar 2013 00:41

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 25 Mar 2013 00:58

vijayk wrote:But the whole goal of Mullah Yadav is to confuse BJP voters. They will keep doubting what if I vote for Modi but BJP goes and makes Advani PM. Mullah is pooping in his pants. He is scared of Modi just like CON ITALIAN MAFIA. That's why Kushwant to Mullah are suddenly all in praise for Advani. Advani will play the game. He wants to make sure BJP is no where and the ITALAIN madam is in power if Modi is accepted candidate. He will do every thing to thwart Modi's plans. Advani's mantra is "If I go down, I will take the whole BJP with me". You will now see Katju to Mani Shaknar to every lefty moron singing the praises of Advani. The PAID MEDIA will magnify the statement of asst. dy. sub. vice president of RSS unit in Naintal district's "No Name town's" 13th ward RSS sakha about the praise of Advani.

The Islamic fanatics, Islamic terrorists, ISI agents in the media, ISI managed Fiberals all are scared to see the reaction of common man to Modi. Advani will be very happy to destroy the dreams of Indians and India. In his mind, he is doing no wrong. Either me or that ITALIAN will be his idea.

Do you honestly think Advani has that much influence? He's a nobody along with all the people surrounding him. Modi's clout is growing and these conflicts will happen. Think of them as growing pains. From now on it will probably be steady deterioration. A few surprises here and there, DMK types will throw tantrum, leave, and then come back, and more people will look towards Modi as an alternative.

Yogesh · Post by **Yogesh** » 25 Mar 2013 01:16

RoyG wrote:
vijayk wrote:But the whole goal of Mullah Yadav is to confuse BJP voters. They will keep doubting what if I vote for Modi but BJP goes and makes Advani PM. Mullah is pooping in his pants. He is scared of Modi just like CON ITALIAN MAFIA. That's why Kushwant to Mullah are suddenly all in praise for Advani. Advani will play the game. He wants to make sure BJP is no where and the ITALAIN madam is in power if Modi is accepted candidate. He will do every thing to thwart Modi's plans. Advani's mantra is "If I go down, I will take the whole BJP with me". You will now see Katju to Mani Shaknar to every lefty moron singing the praises of Advani. The PAID MEDIA will magnify the statement of asst. dy. sub. vice president of RSS unit in Naintal district's "No Name town's" 13th ward RSS sakha about the praise of Advani.

The Islamic fanatics, Islamic terrorists, ISI agents in the media, ISI managed Fiberals all are scared to see the reaction of common man to Modi. Advani will be very happy to destroy the dreams of Indians and India. In his mind, he is doing no wrong. Either me or that ITALIAN will be his idea.
Do you honestly think Advani has that much influence? <snip> Think of them as growing pains. <snip.

see for a rational and informed junta this may not hold true but as we speak people at village are really confused ..people need clarity in terms of what BJP stands for..it's all directionless as we speak. There's hardly ground karyakrata's for the BeeJayPee; in fact mostly have shifted to SP (last assembly election saw biggest churn out as people lost hope that these jokers are just not serious enough, post 2002)

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 25 Mar 2013 01:23

varunkumar wrote:
Being an agnostic, I am very allergic towards religious bigots.
He is allergic to religious bigots, but only when they are Hindus, not Muslims. This Khushwant Singh joker is a Muslim who wears a Sikh turban for decorative purposes.

There was enough evidence for me to believe that men like him wanted to settle scores with the Muslims for what they had done in the past:

Can someone tell this idiot that nothing is in the past -- Hindus are still being killed every day in Kashmir, Pakistan and Bangladesh for the crime of being Hindus.

khushwant is the son of traitor sobha singh who was sarkari witness against Shaheed Bhagat Singh.

I remember 12-13 years back khushwant's interview on tv, where he was asked about his ambition in life. he said 'my biggest ambition in life was to be able to speak english like an englishman'........

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 25 Mar 2013 01:47

I admire all this urban sharwalla youths or uncle, they have so much contempt of Dehatis and village wallas. They may not know English like you, or even have money or TV or car, but probably 1000 times smarter than you are. They can sell you thousand times before you would know you have been sold!! You can underestimate them at your own peril. It is the urban crowd and the englishwallas who have been eating out of Cong hand and still do not get it. Do Burkha has to say I am a liar and biased before they stop watching NDTV? (actually she has said that through Radia tapes but still the English speaking crowd goes there. Try that trick with the rural folks!!
rgds,
fanne

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 25 Mar 2013 01:59

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 25 Mar 2013 03:00

^^Clarity is there. It will take a while to percolate. Advani and Co is one chuck away from the garbage.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Mar 2013 03:06

RoyG wrote:
vijayk wrote:But the whole goal of Mullah Yadav is to confuse BJP voters. They will keep doubting what if I vote for Modi but BJP goes and makes Advani PM. Mullah is pooping in his pants. He is scared of Modi just like CON ITALIAN MAFIA. That's why Kushwant to Mullah are suddenly all in praise for Advani. Advani will play the game. He wants to make sure BJP is no where and the ITALAIN madam is in power if Modi is accepted candidate. He will do every thing to thwart Modi's plans. Advani's mantra is "If I go down, I will take the whole BJP with me". You will now see Katju to Mani Shaknar to every lefty moron singing the praises of Advani. The PAID MEDIA will magnify the statement of asst. dy. sub. vice president of RSS unit in Naintal district's "No Name town's" 13th ward RSS sakha about the praise of Advani.

The Islamic fanatics, Islamic terrorists, ISI agents in the media, ISI managed Fiberals all are scared to see the reaction of common man to Modi. Advani will be very happy to destroy the dreams of Indians and India. In his mind, he is doing no wrong. Either me or that ITALIAN will be his idea.
Do you honestly think Advani has that much influence? He's a nobody along with all the people surrounding him. Modi's clout is growing and these conflicts will happen. Think of them as growing pains. From now on it will probably be steady deterioration. A few surprises here and there, DMK types will throw tantrum, leave, and then come back, and more people will look towards Modi as an alternative.

Advani does not have influence. But he and CON media, Sonia's terrorist friends can confuse and generate doubt in people's minds. Will BJP make Modi PM or will they use him to put Advani? Every one asks this question. That's the game Nitish, Mulyam, Fiberals ad PAID media is doing. They know as soon as people think that Advani is PM candidate, they won't even bother to go to the polls.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Mar 2013 03:11

Regarding UP and BJP, I am very pessimistic. Voting for Mulayam Vs Mayawati it is understandable that when you are presented with almost two party system the anti-incumbency and swings will make one or the other win. This is not different from other states of India. However, the surprise is that in 2009 parliamentary elections, the state sprang a surprise by giving double digit seats to congress making Mulayam and Mayawati almost useless. It still did not get out of Dynasty is my darling mode. The congress victories in Rajasthan, Maha, Haryana and AP are due to local satraps where as congress victory in UP is only for Sonia and Rahul. The love affair of UPites with dynasty is yet to die.

BJP with its non serious leaders such as Rajanath Singh, Varun Gandhi etc. cannot pull a win. It also did a disaster in recent assembly elections without a CM candidate. BJP has to present a OBC CM candidate/leader and all FC leaders have to rally around that person and the support has to be total. It should not be like that is given by Rajnath Singh. It was never total even when he declared kalyan Singh as CM.

If we take the pre-Modi wave numbers that I posted on the other thread based on the surveys etc., the following are potential chances:
(1) If Indians think UPA is doing great under the G family then 2009 will be repeated. Highly unlikely and a chance that is not even being given by UPA bootlickers.

(2) Without a Gandhi wave and based on the surveys, congress party on its own is not going to cross the 130 mark. In this situation if BJP cannot pull beyond 130 range and if Mulayam repeats his assembly performance and Maya cannot pull forward, a UPA government with Mulayam replacing MMS is possible. Remember, congress party has ruled out a support from outside stuff. To keep BJP based government not forming, they are willing to compromise a PM ship to either Mulayam (Mir Jaffer) or Maya (Mir Qasim). Mulayam is targetting this option.

(3) If BJP pulls forward due to Modi wave and gets into range of 165+, there is a 90% chance of Modi being PM and most of the allies will become NDA. Mulyam will have to sit out. TDP types will have to do a spin in the name of secularism, governance etc. I will bet BJP will play a game between Jagan and TDP. In this scenario Congress is just around 100.

(4) If BJP gets to 140 to 150 range and when congress also gets only to 120 then we will see this time a new type of government and that is something which will not have Congress party (or even its boot lickers such as Mulayam) but will have BJP. This is in the spirit of a "vote against UPA". This is where Nitish thinks he has a shot but I will bet he will not be allowed even by BJP. The strategy will be to bring together pan-India dynasty busters. Jaya and TDP are key for such a formation. This is where the chances of Jayalalitha becoming PM and TDP being part of the government will become easy. BJP probably will think future and the future is dependent on destroying the C-system. Hence it will join the government. Modi may continue with a lot of BJP power as Guj CM and will call the shots keeping 2016/2019 in perspective.

Mulayam, Nitish, Maya, Laloo being on the same side and allowing one of them as PM is impossible. Do any kind of math that is not going to happen.

Why is Mulayam sucking up to Advani
Whether BJP pulls it or not, the polity and political analysts are not seeing Congress getting more than 130. Mulayam want to see the option(2) above becoming true so that he can first become PM (via Mir Jaffer option) and then get more secular allies to build a real Third front/National front type government.

The only hurdle he see in that option is Modi being declared as PM candidate and go to polls under Modi. It is a polarizing situation in UP. The voters in UP will see a leader who they think in next PM and he can rally the OBC votes plus all anti-Muslim polarization. He fears this and if his fears come true it will be (3). He is sucking up to almost 90 year old Advani with a hope that he can prevail upon the party to stop Modi juggernaut.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 25 Mar 2013 03:35

Mupallaji,

I feel the scenario 4 or 2 is the most likely. Either way Congress is slowly disappearing and the rightist alternative will glow more and more.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 25 Mar 2013 04:15

Not averse to Narendra Modi, but no prepoll tieup: BJD

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 179282.cms

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Mar 2013 04:37

Sushupti wrote:Not averse to Narendra Modi, but no prepoll tieup: BJD

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 179282.cms

Good news. If BJP can solve UP riddle, we will see Modi as PM. Bihar is as good as solved. Nitish as something DOA.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Mar 2013 04:44

The above economicstimes article tells BJD is very clear to get into Modi's fold but they want no pre-poll because they know they can sweep.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Mar 2013 05:02

Sushupti wrote:Not averse to Narendra Modi, but no prepoll tieup: BJD

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 179282.cms

BJD has three options: Stay equidistant from the two national parties, support a formation that is in a position to form the government, or be part of the next government at the Centre," Mahtab said, but ruled out the possibility of a pre-election tie-up. "We have the necessary political clout in Orissa to win the next election. We do not see the support of any party," he said. Mahtab also said that his party was against the practice of political untouchability when asked about its response to a political dispensation led by Gujarat CM Narendra Modi. This stand is certain to be a setback for political forces expecting major turbulence within NDA over Modi's candidature for the prime minister's post. BJD's position will also considerably weaken the argument that regional parties will not back Modi after the 2014 polls.

That statement will cause burning sensation in several Fiberals and anti-national terrorist forces of CON media, CON party and CON artists such as Dogvijay, Mani Shankar kind of garbage.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Mar 2013 05:10

Muppala garu

There can be another angle to UP patterns. The state came out of two terms of coalition govts and the state wants stable govt. In state they elected BSP in 2007 and no SP. In center they tried to give some seats to INC in 2009. In 2014 I think they go BJP way.

Of course to get the critical mass BJP need to offer goo leadership (NM) and good candidates.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Mar 2013 06:03

Muppalla wrote:The above economicstimes article tells BJD is very clear to get into Modi's fold but they want no pre-poll because they know they can sweep.

If Odisha too votes differentially (rather than deferentially) in the assembely versus LS polls then BJP may well be competitive in some LS seats there. Why not? IMO, some tactical understanding short of a pre-poll tie-up wherein weak candidates are put up for symbolism sake by one party in another's strongholds would be wise. Two can play the INC game after all.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 25 Mar 2013 07:39

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/up-b ... 59237.html
UP BJP unfazed over Mulayam's praise for Advani

Looks like India TOday is the only magazine which does not seem to be in collusion with ITALIAN mafia.

Laxmi Kant Bajpai, state president of the BJP told newspersons on Sunday that the SP has lost the moral right to continue in power and Mulayam was looking for a political refuge in the BJP.

"But I want to clarify that we have nothing to do with Mulayam's party. We are two different streams. He has been pursuing the policy of minority appeasement which we don't appreciate. He is praising Advani either to confuse our voters or to send a feeler to us," he said.

Mulayam had said in a public meeting in Lucknow on Saturday that Advani is a very honest leader and Akhilesh must listen to him if he is concerned about deteriorating law and order situation in UP.

Bajpai said, "We want to ask Mulayam can he support Common Civil Code, which his political guru Ram Manohar Lohia used to advocate. We also want to know will he support our Ayodhya Ram temple issue. If he agrees to these two issues, we can certainly believe that he is thinking about the majority community. But the truth is the Mulayam follows the politics of minority appeasement."

Vijay Bahadur Pathak, spokesperson of UP BJP elaborated it. "Mulayam knows that he is loosing the Muslim vote base because of more than a dozen communal riots in one year of SP rule in the state. So he is trying to turn towards the majority community by sending a signal that he was close to Advani", he said.

"At the same time, he is trying to create an Opposition of the SP government cunningly. We all know that everything in the government is taking place on the direction of Mulayam only. But since Akhilesh has failed to improve law and order and corruption was at its peak in the state, Mulayam has been criticising him to silence the Opposition", Pathak said.

Further explaining Mulayam's mind, a sources in the SP said they were convinced now that there would either be a BJP or a Congress supported government at the Centre after 2014 Lok Sabha election.

"Mulayam has realised that Third Front is a misnomer. But he wants to be in power in Centre by any means. Since there is anti-incumbency against the Congress-led UPA, he believes that he should develop closeness with the BJP. This was why he crossed the table and praised Advani in his party's meeting", said a senior

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 25 Mar 2013 08:54

^It seems like the usual tricks are falling flat this time. It really feels like the force destiny is moving inexorably in one direction. This will be a turning point in the history of our young nation.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Mar 2013 09:21

Political weakness have been our Achilles heel since 47. If this upcoming parliament election can usher in the right political direction for Desh then indeed we have taken the turn on right path of glory.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Mar 2013 10:19

My, my... the despo-ration to ditch the khangress is telling only. More brave (if empty) words from mini-me this time....

Congress can't tame us by unleashing CBI on our leaders, says Akhilesh Yadav

Hinting at political realignments after the elections, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav said the Samajwadi Party will return to Parliament with huge numbers.

Yawn. Huge numbers relative to single digits you mean? The chaddi-twist is palpable only.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Mar 2013 10:25

Sagar G wrote:
Sushupti wrote:BJP is screwed. Looks like NDA+ dream of Lohpurush will come true but at the cost of BJP-
Drunk or what ??? These are pressure tactics being employed by SP so as to keep con in check. It's a small threat like saying listen to me or else....

Not True, its part of tactical voting strategy of Muslim votes by the INC SP, which was shown even in 2009 General Elections.

During Assembly elections it INC job to push Muslim votes to SP and during General elections it is Mulayam job to do Kalyan SIngh tieups which split BJP vote base but make sure Muslims vote for INC. They have made a real CH***** of the public. Now it is clear why Mulayam tied up with Kalyan singh in 2009.

They have had massive success with this strategy since 2002 in keeping BJP out of center and State for BJP. I hope the UP public has realised this Tamasha and no BJP leader falls for this fake rift.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 25 Mar 2013 10:28

Mulayam’s ‘Modi phobia’ behind Advani praise

Another senior BJP leader requesting anonymity said that Mulayam knew that at the moment BJP's most popular leader is Narendra Modi. And, if he goes on to take the prominent space as a poster boy for BJP in the run up to Lok Sabha election, the polarisation of votes would help Congress more than Samajwadi Party.

Elaborating, he said that since most of the politicians think that Muslims would not like Modi to be the prime minister hence they would try to go en masse in favour of the party which could stop BJP from winning Lok Sabha election under the leadership of Modi. However, if it is not Modi, the feeling among the minorities might not be that strong and they could take positions keeping in mind their local interests. In that case, Muslims look unlikely to desert SP in UP at least, the BJP leader said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 181273.cms

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 25 Mar 2013 10:51

@kishanreddybjp: Got a poll survey done in AP. 62% want Sri Narendra Modi as PM, highest 81% in Adilabad district.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Mar 2013 11:55

Supratik wrote:Sanku, the margins in Bihar are not wafer thin. Kindly see AP article.

JDU-22.61%
BJP-16.46%
Total == 39.07

RJD-18.84%
LJP-6.75%
CONGRESS-8.38%
Total == 33.97 (34)

This is 5% point difference, and does not account for vote split. And this is in last election.

Look at the 2005 results which I had posted before.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Mar 2013 15:08

Sanku wrote:
Supratik wrote:Sanku, the margins in Bihar are not wafer thin. Kindly see AP article.
JDU-22.61%
BJP-16.46%
Total == 39.07

RJD-18.84%
LJP-6.75%
CONGRESS-8.38%
Total == 33.97 (34)

This is 5% point difference, and does not account for vote split. And this is in last election.

Look at the 2005 results which I had posted before.

I want to emphasize these percentages has no meaning. When someone goes in a pre poll arrangement these are extremely difficult. No one really know what is exact percentage of BJP, JDU, RJD and LJP. On top of that in key constituencies these parties got landslide that increases their over all percentages. You only can do by putting each constituency in a spreadsheet and see in how many constituencies it is close. If the number close contests are less that its self is the best measure to say that RJD percentages has no meaning.

Another thing is surveys. Each of these parties actually do surveys and talk based on them.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 25 Mar 2013 15:12

why are you adding INC? INC wants to come back in UP and Bihar on its own. Unless they join Laloo they cannot be counted as one.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Mar 2013 15:14

Supratik wrote:why are you adding INC? INC wants to come back in UP and Bihar on its own. Unless they join Laloo they cannot be counted as one.

INC can change stance anytime they feel arthematic is in favour, better to count them till they disappear from the scene.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 25 Mar 2013 15:14

Muppalla wrote: I want to emphasize these percentages has no meaning.

I agree, but since the detailed Bihar number of each party can not be made available on a public forum, we make do with what we have.

Sufficies to say that both external and internal party numbers show that there is a danger of NDA losing in Bihar IF there is a consolidation of votes in RJD-Congress camp, at the very least the winning numbers will get eroded.

why are you adding INC? INC wants to come back in UP and Bihar on its own. Unless they join Laloo they cannot be counted as one.

Because that Owl baba logic may not last too long. For all practical purposes Laloo and Congress were indeed one, at national and state level. This split is only in last elections as part of the Owl touch.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Mar 2013 15:58

Lo ji kar lo baat.... two wrongs don't make a right... NaMo stands for an end to appeasement. Free the temples to run their own affairs I say...rather than act benevolent and all...

Nitish govt turns attention to Hindu temples, sanctions crores as development fund

Often accused of pursuing a minority-appeasement policy, the government is now developing infrastructure for the pilgrims and tourists around a few famous shrines of the deities located in different parts of Bihar.