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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 06 May 2019 23:54
by Suraj
Singha wrote:couptaji has started making strange rational and pro nda noises.

sure sign of a trap to keep lazy bjp voters at home
Turnout after 5 phases is slightly higher than that after the same number of phases in 2014: 67.x% vs 66.x% last time. Both figures are FAR higher than any GE before 2014.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 06 May 2019 23:57
by CRamS
Guys, what do you think of Ram Madhav's comment. Was he just speaking off the cuff, or was he saying based on internal polling? But surprising he has to say it even if its true.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 06 May 2019 23:57
by Lilo
vijayk wrote:
Modi/Shah have left these people to their whims/fancies hoping they would behave but obviously these guys won't
During congie times SC used to be one big cozy happy family.
No Judges giving pressconferences no impeachment motions no leaked letters against brother Judges in the SC.
Only now they are falling out in brotherly sqabbles between brother Judges.
Ofcourse MAD has nothing to do with this . :)

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:00
by Mort Walker
Where is Dilbu????

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:02
by khatvaanga
CRamS wrote:Guys, what do you think of Ram Madhav's comment. Was he just speaking off the cuff, or was he saying based on internal polling? But surprising he has to say it even if its true.
he said conservatively 271 is what bjp will get amd NDA will get full majority.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:03
by vijayk
Smita Prakash

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After May 17th, we won't hear such speeches. Savour them now. https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1125310456778772481
Listen to what PAPPU says https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1125310456778772481

When boxer Modi came to fight in 2014, he has unemployment, farm crisis and scams in front of him. He promised to fight :rotfl:
But he failed in all.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:03
by chetak
Supratik wrote:He is dangerous. Hopefully never becomes CJI.

the more pertinent question staring us in the face is
Is it any job of the court to direct investigations without reference to the executive?

which other SC in the whole wide world can or simply does, without a so much as a by your leave, coopt the CBI and intelligence agencies to help them to probe some allegation made by the CJI regarding some conspiracy.

has the SC taken it upon itself to conduct investigations. It is even constitutionally valid or admissible to do so


It turned down a fervent request of Attorney General K K Venugopal and Solicitor General Tushar Mehta to order a court-monitored SIT probe into the matter, saying the court was not venturing into any enquiry at this moment.

"It is not an enquiry. We are meeting these officers in secret. We don't want any evidence to be disclosed," the bench said. It had asked the three officers to meet the judges in chamber at 12:30 pm.

After meeting the directors of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and the Intelligence Bureau (IB), and the Delhi Police commissioner, the bench reassembled at 3 pm to hear the matter at length. .............

Earlier in the day, the apex court directed chiefs of the CBI, IB and Delhi Police to appear and meet in chambers the three judges who are hearing his claim that there was a larger conspiracy to frame the CJI.

The entire episode is "very disturbing" as it concerns the independence of the judiciary in the country, the bench said.

It turned down a fervent request of Attorney General K K Venugopal and Solicitor General Tushar Mehta to order a court-monitored SIT probe into the mat ..

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:05
by vijayk
We need some friend in Today's Chanakya to get a hint of what's going on ... Pull out your contact list guys ...

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:22
by chetak
Arnab Goswami buys back Asianet shares, transforms Republic Network with a landmark valuation of Rs 1,200 crores in just 2 years


MAY 6, 2019

As the Republic TV is on the verge of completing its 2 years, Managing Director and Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami has bought the minority shares held by Asianet Media Network and transformed Republic TV to Republic Media Network. The company has achieved a major landmark as its valuation has crossed Rs 1,200 crores in just two years, said a report commissioned by the company.

As per news reports, Republic Media Network is all set to become a completely Editor controlled organisation as Arnab Goswami agrees to buy back shares from investors like Asianet News Media. Recently, the company had also launched its Hindi news channel Republic Bharat. Asianet is said to have made strong returns on their investments made in the company.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:25
by ramana
CRamS wrote:Guys, what do you think of Ram Madhav's comment. Was he just speaking off the cuff, or was he saying based on internal polling? But surprising he has to say it even if its true.
Business Standard twisted his remarks.
Essentially he was saying NDA will form the govt. So they interpreted it as BJP won get majority.
RM point was no need for any new allies for forming govt. That means no Jagan, no KCR etc.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:29
by Karan M
Like him or hate him, the guy is a media phenomenon. One man outrage factory who figured out and backed the winning horse at grave perceived cost.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:43
by Lilo

https://youtu.be/je5tuAf34z0
Akhilesh Yadav & "bahu" Dimple Yadav dont want to support Behan MayaWati ji as the PM candidate of Gathbandhan & they make it abundantly clear in interview to Prannoy Roy of rNDTV.
Why is SP backstabbing BSP ?
Please to circulate far and wide.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:48
by Ranarasika
@narendramodi
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My one comment on the corruption of a former PM has riled the Congress eco-system so much but constant, below the belt remarks on a sitting PM, his family, his poverty have no effect on them!

Constant badmouthing of historical greats by one Dynasty doesn't affect them either!
@narendramodi
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My open challenge to Congress.

Fight elections in the name of the former PM associated with Bofors in:

Delhi and Punjab, where innocent Sikhs were butchered in his reign.

Bhopal, where he helped Warren Anderson flee after the infamous Gas Tragedy.

Challenge accepted?
The captain knows what he is doing and why.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:54
by ramana
Especially the victims of both Delhi and Bhopal still seek justice from the beyond.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:55
by UlanBatori
So that was a well-calculated ploy. Toss a pebble, get the bozos to open their door to yell abuse, then sling the gopoo happily through it. Now those are very well-aimed blows. Megaton level too.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:58
by vijayk
UlanBatori wrote:So that was a well-calculated ploy. Toss a pebble, get the bozos to open their door to yell abuse, then sling the gopoo happily through it. Now those are very well-aimed blows. Megaton level too.
where are these ploys conceived? UB's garage? :rotfl:

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 00:58
by eklavya
^^^^
Actually, it’s desperation tactics. PM of 2014-19 wants to fight on the record of the PM of 1984-89. Why not fight on the achievements of the last 5 years e.g. demonetisation.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:06
by Suraj
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Actually, it’s desperation tactics. PM of 2014-19 wants to fight on the record of the PM of 1984-89. Why not fight on the achievements of the last 5 years e.g. demonetisation.
Still the same after 2 bans in the past year eh ? :)

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:08
by Mort Walker
^^^He is. Jan Dhan Yojana and GST are major accomplishments. Demonetization brought money into the banks and is a major step toward tax base widening.

At the same time the INC, left, liberal elites and urban naxals has been hurling abuses at the PM. He had to respond and no better time than right before Punjab and Delhi polling. Everything has a 4 week political half life. By the PM’s statement it will be on the minds of voters next week.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:11
by Mort Walker
Suraj,

Please don’t ban him. I’m personally not a complete fan of GST, but understand it has to be done.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:11
by Karan M
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Actually, it’s desperation tactics. PM of 2014-19 wants to fight on the record of the PM of 1984-89. Why not fight on the achievements of the last 5 years e.g. demonetisation.
All the way from keneda :mrgreen:

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:13
by chetak
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Actually, it’s desperation tactics. PM of 2014-19 wants to fight on the record of the PM of 1984-89. Why not fight on the achievements of the last 5 years e.g. demonetisation.
the world respects winners, no one cares about how they won except some eczema riddled lefties and unwashed naxals.

choose and use the best tools that you have at the time of the battle and change it mid battle if you need to.

you know why politicos/people are still crying about demonetization and its got nothing to do with the poor but its got everything to do with the politicos/people who robbed the poor.

for somebody with only a hammer, every problem soon begins to look like a nail.

the two best PMs that India has had so far, since independence: PVNR and NM.

the rest were merely window decorations.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:14
by Raveen
How did fighting UP elections on demonetization pan out for you eklavya?

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:16
by UlanBatori
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Actually, it’s desperation tactics. PM of 2014-19 wants to fight on the record of the PM of 1984-89. Why not fight on the achievements of the last 5 years e.g. demonetisation.
One can conduct "tapas" and ignore the mosquito stinging one's cheek, but the mosquito, coming from a sh1tpile, may bring malaria so it is better to swat it. Do not waste prayer on what one can accomplish easily oneself. :mrgreen:

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:18
by Ranarasika
India TV interview, following figures were quoted by the captain himself.

Daily work or per day for the past five years:
70K Gas connection
50K house electrification
210K new bank accounts
115K Mudra loan
1K house for poor
60K toilet
9K poor treated
400 Cr DBT transfer
105K people insured
130K Soil health card

Also, source :
https://www.firstpost.com/politics/nare ... 89431.html

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:19
by ramana

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:24
by eklavya
^^^^
Raveen:

BJP vote share in UP in 2014 general election was 41.3%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 41.8%. Another 7.5% for INC.

BJP vote share in 2017 UP assembly elections was 39.7%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 44.2%. Another 6.2% for INC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Ut ... y_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results ... l_election

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:25
by Karan M
Than you Ranarasika,

Respect for PM Modi.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:31
by Karan M
First, Using combined vote share presupposes all the votes will transfer seamlessly as that artificial metric depicts. Hardly the case when 2 mortal rivals supposedly collaborate.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:32
by Suraj
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Raveen:

BJP vote share in UP in 2014 general election was 41.3%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 41.8%. Another 7.5% for INC.

BJP vote share in 2017 UP assembly elections was 39.7%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 44.2%. Another 6.2% for INC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Ut ... y_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results ... l_election
So if voteshare transfers so 100% perfectly, why are SP, BSP and INC different parties ?

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:33
by Karan M
Quite the tacky setup despite the spacious room, and posh wooden flooring in UP land.
Mismatched furniture of all types. "Liberated" from various Govt residences like the bathroom fixtures by engineer sahab? :roll: :lol:

Prannoy Roy looks like he has aged 20 years in 4 years. Must be the strain from reading all those ED notices. :|

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:34
by Mort Walker
eklavya wrote:^^^^
Raveen:

BJP vote share in UP in 2014 general election was 41.3%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 41.8%. Another 7.5% for INC.

BJP vote share in 2017 UP assembly elections was 39.7%. Combined vote share of BSP and SP was 44.2%. Another 6.2% for INC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Ut ... y_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results ... l_election
Vote share in Assembly election results and General election results don’t always correlate. There is anger at state governments and MLAs. In the General it is about which party (or PM candidate who will lead the country).

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:34
by Ranarasika
Karan M wrote:Than you Ranarasika,

Respect for PM Modi.
:) :)

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:36
by sudeepj
vijayk wrote:https://scroll.in/latest/922368/cji-sex ... omplainant
The Supreme Court on Sunday issued a clarification denying that Justices DY Chandrachud and Rohinton Nariman met Justice SA Bobde, who is one of the members of a committee investigating sexual harassment allegations against Chief Justice of India Ranjan Gogoi.

The Indian Express had reported earlier in the day that Chandrachud and Nariman met the inquiry panel – comprising Justices SA Bobde, Indira Banerjee and Indu Malhotra – on May 3 to express their concerns.

...
Modi/Shah have left these people to their whims/fancies hoping they would behave but obviously these guys won't
Giving them a rope long enough to hang themselves.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:37
by eklavya
Vote shares will not transfer perfectly. What I was trying to show was that between 2014 and 2017, the BJP lost popularity in UP. Some of that might have to do with demonetisation. If Yogi Adityanath has governed well, perhaps the BJP vote share in 2019 might go up. Personally, I think his language (which has earned him campaign bans from the ECI) will lose the BJP more votes than it will gain.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:41
by Karan M
What were your predictions for 2014, o great Oracle from wunderland? :mrgreen:

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:42
by Mort Walker
eklavya wrote:Vote shares will not transfer perfectly. What I was trying to show was that between 2014 and 2017, the BJP lost popularity in UP. Some of that might have to do with demonetisation. If Yogi Adityanath has governed well, perhaps the BJP vote share in 2019 might go up. Personally, I think his language (which has earned him campaign bans from the ECI) will lose the BJP more votes than it will gain.
Perhaps, but people are voting for Modi and not Yogi. However this time it is a matter of pressing the party button which will lead the country, and if voting percentages increase, it will most likely be to the BJP’s benefit.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:50
by Picklu
RajD wrote:Breaking news:
Guys, Congress has just launched a complaint against Namo for his comments on Rajiv Gandhi. Abhishek Manu Singhvi just briefed reporters outside EC office.
Sure, just like they raised a complaint against their own MP CM Kamal Nath for breaking MCC by having "Kamal" in his name. :rotfl:

Because everyone knows the meaning of the word "Rajiv" :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:52
by Suraj
eklavya wrote:Vote shares will not transfer perfectly. What I was trying to show was that between 2014 and 2017, the BJP lost popularity in UP. Some of that might have to do with demonetisation. If Yogi Adityanath has governed well, perhaps the BJP vote share in 2019 might go up. Personally, I think his language (which has earned him campaign bans from the ECI) will lose the BJP more votes than it will gain.
You are aware that the party that "lost popularity" won that AE by the second biggest landslide the state has ever seen (after the 1952 assembly elections) ? And that SP and BSP have large numbers of people who can't stand one another - which is the whole reason why they exist as separate parties ? Also, that state level elections elect the CM and GEs are a mandate for a PM ? This is effectively a presidential election - Modi vs whoever else.

The MGB is an exercise in trying to combine voteshare of two sets of people who historically do not cross vote for one another, both sides of whom have benefited from the policy actions of the incumbent PM and who have been put into a convenient political marriage by the leaders of their own parties trying to avoid a rout.

Simple question: youre a mango UP voter. You have the choice between voting for Modi or Akhilesh / Mayawati as PM . Why would you vote for BSP as a Yadav, or for SP as a Dalit ? Serious question. You're backing MGB. What's in it for you ? "I don't want to vote for Modi" is a perfectly good answer if that's what you have to say.

Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Posted: 07 May 2019 01:59
by eklavya
^^^^
Gorakhpur, Phulpur, Kairana by elections.

It works in practice, although I’m not sure if it works in theory.