Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 02 May 2014 02:32

And why is pinki vadra being given the benefit of doubt that she has higher iq than pappu? she seems to be equally retarded as pappu and possibly more arrogant...total fail, just like brother

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 May 2014 02:40

http://www.viralbuzzfeed.com/exclusive- ... x-scandal/

explicit pic of surjewala of cong screwing NSUI girl for ticket

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 02 May 2014 02:45

Jhujar wrote:http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5e429438-d041 ... z30V9kyokj
Narendra Modi: India’s Jekyll and Hyde
(Gora Chorra)

. But absence of proof is not the same as innocence.

I am so fed up of listening to this argument If I understand it correctly, if someone accuses this authors mother of being a prostitute but has no evidence it's not the same as she is not.

Am I correct?

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 02 May 2014 02:48

Come come. Why insult the author's mother, when its her son who is the choo***

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 02 May 2014 02:52

Gus wrote:it is astounding that this is even an issue.

this is going beyond fox news levels. hilary said at benghazi hearing "it does not matter how the ambassador died, we have responsibility to investigate blah blah" and fox played it all days as "HILARY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT AMBASSADORS DEATH". good job indian media beating fox at crude and blatant partisan stupidity.

the worst is other news papers picking this up and playing it as per the original mischievous misinterpretation.

Modi never said priyanka is like my daughter.

let's get that straight first before going into theories and what not.

+++

Yeah, he was mentioning that she is a "daughter".. Not sure where this "like my" came into the picture. He was just referring to the role she played.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 May 2014 02:53

https://twitter.com/vagabondoc/status/4 ... 40/photo/1
priyanka left kejriwal behind

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 02 May 2014 02:59

Very very interesting interview with Amit Shah today in the Hindu - http://www.thehindu.com/elections/loksa ... epage=true

But the regional leaders seem far more vocal in their attacks on Mr. Modi than he is on them. So is it a deliberate attempt to soften up the regional players for post-election tie-ups?

That is not true. He is highlighting the lack of development in every State and targeting everyone responsible. Our target is 272+ for the NDA [National Democratic Alliance]. We are working towards that. There is no other strategy.

What about Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalithaa? She has suddenly become very vocal. We would have thought she and Modi had a good relationship …

You will find the answer to this question in the election results, even in Tamil Nadu where the BJP’s vote share is rising. I don’t want to say anything else.

We would like you to elaborate on it. Do you mean she is raising her pitch because she feels threatened by Mr. Modi?

I told you I would not say anything more than what I had already said. Let the results come out.

It's stuff like this which make me think these guys are running a very carefully planned and monitored election and post-election campaign. I hope Namo wins and Shah gets some really important ministry.

But but NaMo will lose onlee

I wish he focuses on this aspect of the bjp and bolsters its presence in TN and gains a foothold in Kerala and AP

How many seats are you expecting? {In TN and the South in general}

Let me not start counting seats because I haven’t really travelled in southern India. My information is not based on primary sources. I am only telling you what I have learnt from the people who are working on the ground. I can’t cite a figure based on telephonic conversations.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 02 May 2014 03:08

Prasad wrote:I hope Namo wins and Shah gets some really important ministry.

+1. My wish is for him to get home ministry and destroy all anti-India forces including Kongress.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 02 May 2014 03:15

AS is a backroom guy...He wont ask for home.....

Month after the election. He will start planing for 2019.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 02 May 2014 03:21

amdavadi wrote:AS is a backroom guy...He wont ask for home.....

Month after the election. He will start planing for 2019.

He won't ask, but he must be given. He is the best candidate for home in BJP.

He was home minister in Gujarat and cleaned up house pretty nicely.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 02 May 2014 03:27

sivab wrote:He was home minister in Gujarat and cleaned up house pretty nicely.

Then a natural job for Shri Amit Shah is CM of Gujarat.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 02 May 2014 03:33

KLP Dubey wrote:
sivab wrote:He was home minister in Gujarat and cleaned up house pretty nicely.
Then a natural job for Shri Amit Shah is CM of Gujarat.

If he becomes CM of Gujarat, it will be a loss for India. I want BJP to win again in 2019 and he can make that happen as home minister. Imagine IB, CBI, NIA, CRPF in his hand. He can break the back of Congress so it never rises again.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 02 May 2014 03:40

Lisa wrote:
. But absence of proof is not the same as innocence.
I am so fed up of listening to this argument If I understand it correctly, if someone accuses this authors mother of being a prostitute but has no evidence it's not the same as she is not.

Am I correct?

They are trying to invert the usual innocent until proven guilty. They want Modi to be guilty until proven innocent (proven by western standards, which means the day Modi does GUBO to the west, the proof will be 'suddenly' appear).

Inverting the burden of proof gives into one of shivji's famous descriptions of games goras and sikulars play: "You farted!". There is no proof with the west that Modi is what they claim to be, so they want Modi to now "prove" that he is innocent.

The only way to deal with that is to turn tables on the west. But Modi is not there yet and he must focus on getting the house in order first. These kind of attacks will only increase in the future and will continue on until Modi becomes pliable by the west. So I just hope he does not capitulate, and I also hope that he sets up a counter propaganda news org and a network that reverses the gaze on the west.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 02 May 2014 03:44

sivab wrote:If he becomes CM of Gujarat, it will be a loss for India. I want BJP to win again in 2019 and he can make that happen as home minister. Imagine IB, CBI, NIA, CRPF in his hand. He can break the back of Congress so it never rises again.

Either way, I guess the US will deny him a bheeja (for different reasons than NaMo).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 May 2014 05:23

amdavadi wrote:AS is a backroom guy...He wont ask for home.....
Month after the election. He will start planing for 2019.

BRF too has not taken vacation since ABV lost in 2004. Lest Hope Modi-rators dont shut down the forum for 24 Hours after Modi wins the current election war.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 02 May 2014 06:31

Bianca angry because as per Salman is riots happen under a persons watch then he is impotent. So Bianca reacerting her fathers name since 1984. Soon she will confirm that Indira is a Nehru child.

Twitter this gurus.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 02 May 2014 06:34

i shudder to think about the unthinkable that is NDA not getting more than 200

if that happpens we will have withdrawal syndromes

and i will really appreciate teh congies for pulling thi off, dont think NaMo has energy to run such a high octane campaign again it is left to Mahadev to help us(NDA supporters) out

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 02 May 2014 06:51

I hope NaMo and Amit Shah have planned for all contingencies and their belief BJP>200 is not punctured by EVM magic and voter list deletion.

archan · Post by **archan** » 02 May 2014 06:53

Dhoti shiverers can be so irritating at times.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 02 May 2014 06:54

Blame it on Dilbu. He is not to be seen, so we have to shiver in his absence.

But on a serious note, I think you were not as invested in 2009 as some of us were, so you haven't gone through the entire cycle of "what, not this again". Plus, the INC is one of the most effective corrupt empires world has ever seen. So there is that as well.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 02 May 2014 07:04

There's a twitter rumor saying Robert Gandhi may lead a bike rally in Amethi... jai ho only.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 02 May 2014 07:10

Hari Seldon wrote:There's a twitter rumor saying Robert Gandhi may lead a bike rally in Amethi... jai ho only.

Done once in 2009. If he does again, Smruthi Irani will be MP of Amedhi.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2014 07:51

[quote="Jhujar"]http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5e429438-d041 ... z30V9kyokj
Narendra Modi: India’s Jekyll and Hyde
(Gora Chorra)

The "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" was never uttered by Modi. It was concocted by Manoj Joshi of TOIlet. After they could not produce any proof TOIlet accepted it later. The FarT news regurgitates what the Indian secularists said in the last 10 years and were proved wrong consistently. The assembling of 1000 locals near the train early morning is never mentioned, as it is a give away.
Anyway WTF asked you guys. It is like a broken record.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2014 08:05

The next astra of the mahabharat war is getting ready. It is the fake Sankaracharya of puri who is going to be airlifed into Banaras. The communals have to fight this secular chor next. Let us start getting our weapons ready. Varanasi is a symbolic battle that needs to be won. The fake S'charya says
EC should lift the curfew on Azam Khan
RSS is a danger to India
NM is a danger to India
In the mean time Khujliwal has in his manifesto says Varanasi will be made a spiritual city (where High level of spirit will be consumed),for all religions. Basically he is talking about making it more attractive for conversions.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 May 2014 08:05

Atri wrote:Yes, that is given... something needs to be done about it.. If jasodaben refuses to divorce (not considered auspicious) etc then what - is the basic drift of my question.

divorce isn't going to make the security issue go away; it should be assumed that Modi's enemies will target anyone related to him, including Jasodaben. She will need constant protection as long as Modi is alive.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 May 2014 08:08

archan wrote:Dhoti shiverers can be so irritating at times.

+108.

Archanullah... You should start giving warnings to these dhotis... There is no place for dhoti shivers in the middle of battle at every real/perceived set back

One should be prepared to absorb the setback and strategize next surge.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 May 2014 08:10

chaitanya wrote:^ Maybe he is trying to lure them into a false sense of security before striking

I get the feeling that Modi actually is not that kind of person, he is an old-fashioned "sat-purusha" which is what makes all the mud-flinging against him so painful.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 May 2014 08:16

It should be Dhoti Quiver to hold many arrows to shoot.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 May 2014 08:17

Nijalingappa wrote:
Murugan wrote:Many of these modern Shankaracharyas are dharma-traders.
Yet to do any kind of significant constructive work, unlike Ramdevs, RK Ashrams, Chinmoy Mission, Ravishankar sort. Shankaracharyas are actually spoiling the name of Adi Shankaracharya and they are big insult to him
Sorry to dispute what you say
Sankara eye foundation was inspired and instigated by sankaracharya of Kanchi
The foundation has done yoeman service to people of India all over
Go here to learn morhttp://www.giftofvision.org
Also
Sankara nettalaya
Sankaranetralaya.org

Can vouch for that organization and its founder. And Jayendra was involved in getting Dalits enter Hindu temples. So yes, there are good swamis/acharyas. And then there are bad swamis/acharyas. It cannot be avoided.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2014 08:21

its interesting to see certain mutt leaders above being more sickular than sickular, while its their calling and job to be hindu leaders.

you wont ever see this kind of thing from christian or muslim religious leaders...they will stick to the job description and look after their flock only.

Varanasi is truly going to be a circus from next week.....every joker in the pack is heading there....good that Namo will be onsite for 5 days to try and crush the sickulars in the climactic battle.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 May 2014 08:28

NaMo will lose onlee.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 May 2014 08:29

archan wrote:Dhoti shiverers can be so irritating at times.

No kafir dhoti shivering is good. Especially if you do it in dark narrow places.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 May 2014 08:31

Is it safe to say NaMo escaped the jail term since he had not violated 100m rule? He may still have to pay fine for the media conference but that is okay.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 02 May 2014 08:33

IndraD wrote:explicit pic of surjewala of cong screwing NSUI girl for ticket

Is this guy related to Randeep Surjewala who is the INC spokesman on TV ? From his attitude, I guess Randeep could very well be the product of just such a "do-me-a-favor" fawk many years ago.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 02 May 2014 08:35

amritk wrote:Maybe she really hates Modi and doesn't want to be associated with him. Modi may have meant well but the statement could seem presumptuous to some.

Modi did not say she was "his" daughter, or "like" his daughter. He has more class and dignity than indulging in such sycophantic presumption of relationship. She said she was saying all those ugly things in her capacity of "a" (i.e., her mother's) daughter. Let's try to keep the facts and their meanings clear.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2014 08:40

Dilbu wrote:Is it safe to say NaMo escaped the jail term since he had not violated 100m rule? He may still have to pay fine for the media conference but that is okay.

I dont think that case is going anywhere. even the congis have stopped whining about it.

these are all 1-day media trumpets for lack of anything better to throw at him. they have thrown the kitchen sink and nothing has worked.

negi · Post by **negi** » 02 May 2014 08:43

No one takes EC seriously, in narth they say "sare niyam aur kanoon l#$% pe rakhe jate hain" (all rules and regulations are placed on tip of a d#$k).

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 May 2014 08:46

X-post:

sum wrote:Wasnt this seat going to INC or a tight fight, as per few BRF election watchers?
In Gujarat, Cong nominee gives up even before counting

Party nominee from Jamnagar Lok Sabha constituency Vikram Madam came out in the open during the day to announce that he would lose the election to his niece and BJP nominee Poonam Madam by a margin of some 30, 000 votes. Addressing the media during the day, he asked his supporters not bet on poll results. The counting of votes is scheduled for May 16.

Vikram Madam is a prominent Ahir community leader and the party leadership was betting on his victory. The BJP had, however, made it difficult for him by engineering the defection of his niece Poonam, a sitting Congress legislator, then, ahead of 2012 state Assembly elections.

Sources claim that Poonam’s chances of trouncing her rivals was very strong since she enjoyed the backing of a Jamnagar-based corporate honcho of a leading company of the country.

Vikram Madam told reporters that he was a pragmatic person who did not run away from the reality.

In Wednesday’s polling state wide, the Jamnagar constituency had recorded a polling of 57.42 per cent, almost 5 per cent below the 62 per cent polling recorded in the state. The party had considered the Jamnagar constituency in the Saurashtra region of the state as one of the ‘safer’ seats for the Congress.

Frederic · Post by **Frederic** » 02 May 2014 08:59

Guys, I see that the tension levels are running quite high and understandably so.

Here are some data points to mull over:

*It is defacto admission from the Congoons that the line is about to be breached and thus they are sending the last reserves of the heavy cavalry in as a suicidal charge. The hyperventilation of Priyanka Vadra can only been as such. The Congoons have been keeping PV as a final weapon. That she is being unleashed with abandon only spells that the doom is near.

*Two or three "fires" so conveniently in strategic offices in a week! Come on. The mafiosi are firing up their escape pods.

*Amit Shah is certainly not one who runs off his mouth when it comes to electoral matters. Hell, he has probably forgotten more about booth level politics than all your Diggy Rajas and Mani Shankar Aiyyars would learn in seven lifetimes. Granted, some of AS's bravado can be seen as pure maskirovska to demoralize the Orc hordes and rally the battalions of elite Elven archers but still there must be some substance behind all his posturing?

*Lastly, if you need any further proof, watch carefully NaMo's last 4 or 5 interviews. His body language has undergone a sea change. It is the Aslan the noble creature baring his fangs finally, casting aside any and all hopes of mercy for the fell creatures. He must have some ground level info if he feels this confident! Think about it.

Chillax guys. Don't get upended by every two bit random pimp from the tweeples or rUNdiTV.

Dharma will prevail.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 May 2014 09:02

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/white ... 04315.html

While no one expects that Modi will be sent to jail, it isn't like the BJP's prime ministerial candidate and his party haven't made the most of the fact that elections are being held in widely spaced phases across the country. In fact, each election day over the past month has witnessed a major Modi PR event aimed at dominating news coverage.

On the first day of polling, 7 April, the BJP went ahead with a press conference to release its manifesto. It was the same day that Assam and Tripura went to the polls. Despite the Congress protests, the event was telecast live across television channels.

On 9 April, when states like Mizoram, Manipur and Arunachal Pradesh went to the polls, the BJP prime ministerial candidate filed his nomination in Vadodara after a massive road show in his home state. He did make other headlines the next day when it was revealed that he had acknowleged Jashodaben as his wife for the first time ever in a poll affidavit. It's unlikely though that it was a headline that Modi or the BJP would have really wanted, given the fallout.

On 17 April, when all of Rajasthan, Karnataka, and parts of Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh went to the polls, the headlines were dominated by a interview that Modi had given to a news agency a day earlier.

And then on 24 April when parts of Maharashtra, including Mumbai, West Bengal, all of Tamil Nadu, Chhattisgarh and Assam went to the polls, the BJP's prime ministerial candidate held a massive road show in Varanasi and filed his nomination. The entire roadshow was telecast live by national television channels even as parts of Uttar Pradesh voted.