Aleppo is the prize catch without which there is no connectivity to Turkey, no Industrial hub, no economy. Idlib, Ghouta, Hasakah are all important but by themselves they hold no weight if rebels do not occupy Aleppo. Also NATO has little strategic to gain in Syria without Aleppo in play.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 16:59
by Austin
TSJones, Singha , habal will like this
Interesting interview with SOFRep's Jack Murphy on U.S. Syria operations, the issues with training and arming jihadis and the dangerous trend with clueless pundits
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 17:07
by habal
Rebel Twitter confirms retreat
Qalaat Al Mudiq @QalaatAlMudiq
Now: Rebel withdralwal from whole 1070 Project as supply line is cut off.
now 1070 was a major rathole for TOW operators. That threat is vastly diminished.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 17:52
by Austin
European Commission President: Ankara is increasingly moving away from EU
Brussels, 8 November. / Corr. Asya Harutyunyan TASS /. Turkey is more and more away from the European Union. This was stated by the head of the European Commission Jean-Claude Juncker, speaking at the College of Europe, Bruges is located in Belgium.
"I see more and more, as Turkey is moving away from Europe is not Europe is moving away from Turkey.", - He said.
Juncker also said that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will be to blame if the EU does not give the country visa-free regime.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 17:59
by Singha
one FSA colonel ex-SAA artillery school instructor who specialized in TOW teaching and firing was killed yesterday. His 2 TOWs were diverted by the drum countermeasure on tanks and then he was spotted. SyAF sent a plane to bomb his location.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 18:32
by habal
western aleppo is in govt control, it is the easter part that is under rebel control.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 18:35
by habal
meanwhile
Russia started deliveries of TOS "Buratino" to Kurdistan
IRAQ'S MILITIAS HAVE SHUT MOSUL'S DOOR TO RAQQA
Alwaght -- Tuesday 8 November 2016
Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) managed to take control of the main road used by ISIS terrorists in Mosul.
Speaking to the reports on Monday, Hadi al-Ameri, Secretary General of Badr Organization said “here is Adaia village. It is located on the road between Tal Abtah and Tal al-Zalt which is the last road leading to the Syrian city of Raqqa.”
“It is also the last road connecting Raqqa to Mosul in Iraq,” he added.
He further said the road is completely under the control of his forces while some PMF units also managed to capture the strategically important village of Tal al-Zalt and al-Massaied.
The strategic mountainous regions near the road are also under complete control of the PMF’s Ali Akbar and al-Qoaida battalion, the commander further elaborated.
“The situation puts us in control of a three way conjunction that lets us to access both Tal Afar and Mosul”, Ameri said.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 18:40
by habal
Euphrates Wrath op name changed to 'Great epic suicide op'
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 19:10
by Singha
habal wrote:meanwhile
Russia started deliveries of TOS "Buratino" to Kurdistan
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Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 22:46
by Singha
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (3:50 P.M.) - Minutes ago, he Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and Hezbollah launched a massive assault inside the western suburbs of Aleppo, targeting both the Dahiyat Al-Assad and Minyan areas that are under jihadist control.
The Syrian Armed Forces began the assault by storming Jaysh Al-Fateh's (Army of Conquest) defenses at the Minyan Suburb; this resulted in a fierce battle that is still ongoing at the moment.
According to an Al-Masdar field correspondent, the Syrian Armed Forces inside Minyan have managed to seize almost 90 percent of this suburb, leaving only a small portion left to capture from Jaysh Al-Fateh.
At the nearby Al-Assad Suburb, Hezbollah launched another powerful attack on Jaysh Al-Fateh's defenses, as they attempt to reclaim this once affluent area in Aleppo's western corridor.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 08 Nov 2016 22:49
by Singha
Zhukov doctrine as per kursk and Moscow...counterattack comes later after enemy expends himself on a multi layer defence....western aleppo countryside is ripe for takeover imo
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 08:03
by Singha
These are the staging areas and rats nests..time for buratino salvos...
ASCUS, SYRIA (10:00 P.M.) - The Syrian Arab Army's High Command announced on Tuesday evening that their forces are preparing for a new military operation in Aleppo's northern countryside.
"Our military operations will focus on the towns of Haritan, Anadan, Hayyan, and Kafr Hamra," the commander of the Syrian Arab Army's "Tiger Forces," Colonel Suheil Al-Hassan, stated on Tuesday.
"We will unleash hell onto those towns if the terrorists do not surrender to our forces," Colonel Hassan added.
The aforementioned towns are located in the 'Anandan Plains of northwest Aleppo; they have long been under the control of the jihadist rebels, beginning in early 2013.
Earlier this year, the Syrian Armed Forces began a military operation to capture these towns in northwest Aleppo; however, they were forced to halt the attack in favor of the Palmyra offensive.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 08:07
by Singha
Ruaf repeatedly bombed these towns earlier to no effect. Must have strong tunnels and bunkers below
Corpses of fallen soldiers in minningh airbase retrieved after 3 years.
"The bodies of 94 fallen soldiers were retrieved from the infamous Minnigh Airbase in the northern countryside of Aleppo and were transported to Tishreen Military Hospital in Damascus thanks to the local efforts of the populace of Nubbol and Zahraa and the coordination between the YPG and the Syrian government."
The Saudis, Qataris, Turks and their Sunni militant proxies must be feeling very disappointed now. Trump has won so the US won't be escalating in Syria now. No WW3. The GCC/Erdogan bloc has just lost any hope of victory in Syria and Iraq.
Sorry TSJones your pals are f*cked.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 13:38
by Austin
Y. Kanan wrote:The Saudis, Qataris, Turks and their Sunni militant proxies must be feeling very disappointed now. Trump has won so the US won't be escalating in Syria now. No WW3. The GCC/Erdogan bloc has just lost any hope of victory in Syria and Iraq.
Sorry TSJones your pals are f*cked.
Policy are decided by US National Interest ,not by Hillary or Trump.
We need to cut the rhetoric and see what Trump does then what he says , Remember Obama the Man of Change and then He Changed
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 13:47
by Singha
well the time has come, the hour is about to dawn...
SyrianMilitaryCap. @syrianmilitary 17h17 hours ago
we announce the official name of the operation to liberate Aleppo today hopefully
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Warfare Worldwide @WarfareWW 15h15 hours ago
#Russia will start carrier-launched airstrikes on jihadist militants in #Aleppo countryside tomorrow
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 13:48
by Singha
a major ground offensive in western aleppo is already ongoing. but this will be a bigger op covering all areas around city perhaps.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 13:50
by Singha
end the circus once and for all. get into east aleppo by tunnels if needed and jaar se ukhad do (pull them up from the root level).
but I think putin is still inclined to let them drop weapons and scurry off via the safe corridors...
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 14:09
by Austin
Singha wrote:end the circus once and for all. get into east aleppo by tunnels if needed and jaar se ukhad do (pull them up from the root level).
but I think putin is still inclined to let them drop weapons and scurry off via the safe corridors...
Any Air Operation will lead to loss of Innocent Humans Life and War Crime Cry.
Any Ground operation using Infantary can lead to significant loss on Assad side and Innocent Humans life loss perhaps lesses than Air Warfare.
So its a waiting game to drain them out and take them one small place at a time , This will minizise loss on Assad side and Pyschologically affect the Terrorist.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 14:20
by Singha
well a push and shove could be given using all the bulldozers and caged armour tanks loitering down south in ghouta and daraa type belts...encouragement to rethink is always welcome from shubhchintaks like RUAF demoing a FOAB at night over a rat infested deserted area like khan touman or kafr hamra for all of Aleppo to gaze in wonder...
ending it quick instead of this gandhian satyagraha and gherao frees up scarce resources like desert hawks , 4th div and tiger forces for Idlib and Palmyra . time imo to double down and go all in for aleppo.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 14:44
by habal
this will end very soon now, Russians are starting engines and bomb bays are being loaded
new offensive in NW Aleppo (Anadan plains), Col Suheil al Hassan just announced the start of this offensive, this will disrupt the terrorists even more, they will have to split forces which will allow the many offensives to proceed faster, one key aspect is that huge bombing will always hit first to soften the defensive lines, and firepower is at its highest for Syria and allies.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 14:47
by habal
#Raqqa: 46 militants from the "landmine battalion" of the organization "Daesh" arrived in the city of Raqqa coming from the Iraqi city of Mosul to mine the perimeter of Raqqa.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 14:50
by Singha
good. let them get into paranoid siege mentality. but I fear they will massacre civilians and prisoners as they grow increasingly unhinged (whatever little sanity was in their craniums to start with). they already killed some like goats in a raqqa slaughterhouse earlier and more beheaded mass graves incl women and children are being discovered daily in mosul.
i hope potus + putin can put aside differences and atleast get rid of ISIS quickly.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 15:01
by habal
No involving potus in anything, that side is fully infiltrated by all manner of snakes. Just get the thing done fast now.
tic tac toe .. clear Aleppo and block the path between Raqqa to Northern border ASAP. That will make USA see the light and give up it's plans. Trump is in which is true .. but it needs a push from the other side as well to seal the deal. You can't leave any loopholes for enemy to sneak back in.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 15:02
by Bhurishravas
habal wrote:meanwhile
Russia started deliveries of TOS "Buratino" to Kurdistan
Peshmerga is being given weapons by Russia. Peshmerga is allied with ISIS pasand Turkey and is opposed to Iraqi shias.
Noone is giving weapons to the PKK/YPG kurds who need it most and have been suffering and fighting against the sunni jihadists since 4 years.
A sign of things to come. Of course.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 15:03
by Philip
Better days ahead for Russo-US relations with Trump's historic win. Bad ,bad news for ISIS and beardies of all descriptions.The Soothis too must be reeling from the ramifications of the Trump victory.It'll be no longer business as ususal.
Russia to launch 'large-scale' airstrikes on Syria as Americans vote
Cruise missiles and carrier-based warplanes to hit eastern Aleppo
Military indicates ‘hundreds of terrorist targets’ to be destroyed
Aircraft are positioned on the flight deck of Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, pictured in the English Channel en route to the eastern Mediterranean.
Julian Borger World affairs editor
Tuesday 8 November 2016
Russia has threatened to launch “large-scale” cruise missile and airstrikes on Aleppo to coincide with the US election, according to media reports from Moscow.
The strikes, predicted in the 24 hours from Tuesday morning, would be targeted at the outskirts of the city where rebel groups have been seeking to break the Assad regime’s siege of opposition-held eastern districts. They would involve cruise missiles, carrier-based and land-based warplanes, the reports said.
A military source told the Gazeta.ru website: “While in previous cases, when missile attacks were launched from the Caspian Sea, there were dozens of targets destroyed, this time, in literally two to three days, hundreds of terrorist targets will be destroyed from long range.”
Ominous news for Aleppo as Russian frigate reaches Syrian coast
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Over the past few days, the Russian navy has assembled a sizable fleet in the eastern Mediterranean, made up of its only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, its biggest battle cruiser, the Peter the Great – both from its Northern Fleet, and the Admiral Grigorovich, a missile frigate. There are also reported to be up to three submarines from the Northern Fleet with the Kuznetsov battle group, which are all positioned between Cyprus and the Syrian coast.
As described by military officials to the Russian media, the Aleppo attack would be a show of strength and military capability on the day of the US election. Putin observers have consistently said he puts heavy emphasis on restoring Russian status as a global power.
It would involve the first carrier-based air sorties in Russian history, the use of Kalibr cruise missiles from the Grigorovich or the submarines or both, and Russian warplanes taking off from Hmeimim airbase near Latakia.
Over the course of the election the Kremlin has made no secret of its backing for Donald Trump, and US intelligence agencies have accused Moscow of orchestrating the hacking of Democratic party emails, which were then leaked to the WikiLeaks website.
If she is elected, Hillary Clinton is generally expected to adopt a tougher stance towards Russia than the Obama administration, and Putin is widely seen as narrowing her room for manoeuvre by crippling the Syrian opposition militarily before she arrives in office.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 15:03
by habal
SAA destroyed 4 vehicles and 25 terrorist rats at the Golan heights, the rest predictably scurried away.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 15:14
by Singha
you think without help and ammo from SAA side Afrin would be still standing ? its surrounded by turkey , Idlib and rebel held west aleppo with a thin newly opened corridor via Nubl and Zahraa which the hezbollah and tiger forces opened . without fresh supplies of weapons would they be able to creep out of their corner, past Marea and make for Al bab?
someone is quietly helping them for sure.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 16:44
by habal
Yusha Yuseef @MIG29
Aleppo, syrian Reporter @aboward87 in a selfie from Al-Hekmah School which was captured today
I don't where you guys get the idea that Trump is gonna abandon the Syria conflict.
I'll tell ya what he is going to abandon: Obama bombing reticence.
targets like raqqa are going to get the living f*** bombed out of it.
no more kid gloves.
euros are gonna file war crimes charges against him. no love lost there.
you heard it from TSJ.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 17:19
by Singha
I dont think anyone is expecting the US to walk away..ppl are rooting for him to go after ISIS properly, I mean with his legions of drones, B52 and B1 that Rus cannot remotely match in number or capability
its time to use the teeth on the big dog.
the death of ISIS will hasten the settlement of the future of Syria and Iraq and save a lot of lives (apart from time).
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 17:21
by Singha
his posture on the rest of syrians rebels who are now dominated by the AQ (nusra and shams front) will be most interesting to know.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 17:23
by habal
the deep state of USA is going to do a pivot, or atleast attempt a pivot, with a new mischief in Syria. That is for sure.
but before they can get into gear and before Trump is sworn in, Russia would have solved all the rebel issues @ FOAB level. This is what I hope, because else Putin's strategies will seem pretty limp.
secondly there is question of boots on ground, bombing from sky is pointless if USA cannot capitalize on that gains with boots on ground and linking qatar, Kurdistan with Turkey. Again I do not see that being facilitated, Trump or no Trump.
Re: Levant crisis - III
Posted: 09 Nov 2016 17:48
by Singha
loved the b1 low pass at 4:17 - hope trump does not turn out to be the damp squib that bush2 was on GOAT
The GCC/Erdogan bloc has just lost any hope of victory in Syria and Iraq.
