Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 16 Oct 2012 07:04

Suppiah wrote:
Nandu wrote:Welcome back, Major!

http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/
Sorry for being noob but who is this major?

He is an ex-ISI retired analyst as per his blogs. We all know what 'retired ISI' usually means......non-state actor.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 07:12

Any way why are we giving publicity to crazy Pakis?

Nandu that was for you.

Suppiah, GOi did not ever want sind + Pakjab. Please try to read my ppt on TSP in slideshare.net

I linked it in new way of looking thread and this very thread.

KrishnaK · Post by **KrishnaK** » 16 Oct 2012 07:21

So this major sounds/writes very much like a brf pinglish.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Oct 2012 07:36

Malala shifted to the UK - The Hindu

“Will Pakistan send any victim of a drone strike to the U.K. as well,” said a tweet from one of the naysayers.

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Oct 2012 07:43

Dawn grumbles about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan being jilted by "ummah brothers" from the Mohammadden comity of nations

:

Fewer Muslim leaders visited Pakistan since ’08

From the Newspaper | Khawar Ghumman | 1 day ago

ISLAMABAD, Oct 14: Let alone leaders of the western world, leadership of the Muslim countries has also largely stayed away from Pakistan since the PPP-led government took over in 2008.

On the contrary, several Muslim countries have been visited by President Asif Ali Zardari as the head of state and former prime minister Yousuf Raza Gilani as the head of government during the last four years.

Although the Foreign Office painted a rosy picture of the country’s trustworthy and ever-lasting brotherly relations with the Muslim world, details it placed before the National Assembly recently indicated that Pakistan throughout this period had failed to attract the leaders of Muslim countries. ....................

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 07:57

ramana wrote:Suppiah, GOi did not ever want sind + Pakjab. Please try to read my ppt on TSP in slideshare.net

I linked it in new way of looking thread and this very thread.

Saw that..thanks..it would be interested to see it updated to reflect post 2008 developments in TSP/Afghan theatre...I am not sure if this 'threat' of Sindh/Pakjab getting too interested in merger is what is keeping GOI from acting more strongly on breaking up TSP or is it just the standard behaviour of the species Wimpus Indicus.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 08:09

TTP takes away head of slain uniformed jihadis..

They are better than Obelix who only collects helmets..

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 08:11

TSP is like a stadium where there are ten matches played at the same time...makes the job of a scorekeeper damn tough, not to speak of anyone trying to follow the score...

Karachi target killings sends 10 to their 72

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 16 Oct 2012 08:13

Cosmo_R wrote:@RamaY^^^ re Asra Nomani. You may be a bit harsh on her. She's never going to be a BRFite. However, to the extent she succeeds in empowering women, she is a very useful tool against the fulminating mullahs.

With all due respect to her boss, I don't take her Islamic feminist fantasies seriously, but what I be more interested to know are the titillating details of her love affair in TSP that resulted in a love child. Do we know who it is that donked her? ISI agent? How long did she know him before he scored? And I wouldn't mind some salacious details as well on the consummation act. I would love to know all that if she is willing to spill the beans, but she can spare me her moderate BS. Like all "South Asian" RAPE sistas, I have heard her pour scorn and ridicule on so called "Hindu extremists" and do an equal equal.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 08:15

Hungama hain kyoon...daka to daal hi dhiya..chori to ho hi gayee..

With apologies to Jhujar-bhai..

Ghulam Ali's house burgled in armed heist...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Oct 2012 08:19

Suppiah wrote:TTP takes away head of slain uniformed jihadis..

“We have also taken away two night vision goggles, 15 Kalashnikovs, two rocket launchers, three mobile jammers, 30 rounds of magazines and three heavy machine guns from the check post,” said Ehsan..

Quick! Someone inform the US State Dept. These need to be replaced or the Shitistan army will fall short and racist Hindus may attack from the east.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Oct 2012 08:25

ramana wrote:Any way why are we giving publicity to crazy Pakis?

Nandu that was for you.

Interesting pisko question here.

We seem to support people who seem normal to us and think like us about Pakistanis.

But such thoughts only strengthen the hands of extremists in Pakistan. In fact we should support the unity and integrity of Pakistan under its founding principles - Islam. The Taliban are doing yeoman service to Islam and Pakistan. Having driven one Godless superpower away they are now driving the other back to it hole and they are purifying Pakistan. Rather than supporting anti-Pakistani causes like this major and Lallamamala or whatever it is that girl is called we should break the back of extremists by supporting a unified Islamic Pakistan as promoted by the Taliban.

archan · Post by **archan** » 16 Oct 2012 08:56

KrishnaK wrote:So this major sounds/writes very much like a brf pinglish.

A lot of pakis love our BENIS, so that's no surprise.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 16 Oct 2012 10:57

Some more love shown in TSP, but very defensive play, Pakis are not yet in T20 mode

10 dead in Karachi violence

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 16 Oct 2012 11:09

Cross posting from Kargil war thread as it shows TSP and TSPA psycology

Jhujar wrote:Kargil revisited — Imran Kureshi
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2012_pg3_6

AThat it was a debacle/fiasco might be correct, but politically, we certainly aided it to be a fiasco. The fact is that tactically it was a brilliant plan; but unfortunately, not a far-sighted one (that was why the former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto is reported to have opposed it). The plan was that when the Indian forces left their Kargil positions for the winter, our Northern Light Infantry (NLI) would march in and occupy these, similar in action to what India did to us in Siachen. The pickets or bunkers in Kargil are so unassailable that India would have to admit defeat and we would bring India to the bargaining table. Indeed, when the NLI marched into these pickets without any resistance they found them well stocked with not only ammunition but also food. The bunkers were so well constructed with concrete and steel on strategic heights they were practically unassailable, especially when the steep slopes around them were mined. What was to be gained? There’s the rub. Of course, India refused to concede defeat or come to the bargaining table. The BJP government had to face elections. It launched an exaggerated propaganda campaign and refused even to acknowledge the defeats and frustration they were facing in their suicidal and ill-organised counteriattack. Thus the best we could hope for was to end up in something like the Siachen situation (but with more strategic territory), where nobody gains anything.

There were unofficial attempts to end the fighting, amongst which was the visit of a noted Indian journalist R K Mishra, and a respected diplomat, Vivek Katju to Islamabad. That was followed by a visit to New Delhi by Pakistan’s former foreign secretary; and then there was a proposal by the US that we endorsed, to send our foreign minister to Delhi (that eventually did not happen). Government also did its best to do crisis management to salvage the peace talks. These overtures sent an apologetic image to both outsiders and our own nation, showing that we too were against this operation. This attitude is the beginning of ensuring this incident to be a debacle.

Now regarding the question of ‘defeat’, the operation was tactically a resounding success. Operation Vijay launched by India was described mainly as a mopping up operation to dislodge the intruders; India lost 600 brave souls and 1,800 wounded. Our losses were 400 gallant jawans who lost their lives, which probably included many wounded who could not receive proper aid up there. Out of 134 pickets taken by the NLI, the Indian army could only vacate 14. The rest were still strongly held by the NLI when we withdrew (with ample ammunition and supplies, courtesy the Indian army). Regarding the famous victory of Tiger Hill by India, Mr Brian Cloughley in A History of the Pakistan Army writes that it was a very costly victory. It seems that we fell for the Indian propaganda as much as the Indians did. It was only a matter of time before the Indian public would have started feeling discontent about the number of casualties being sent home. And the biggest canard is people who claim we left our soldiers to be slaughtered after we sent the signal to withdraw. This is pure and utter rubbish. The withdrawal was organised and executed properly, with India breathing a sigh of relief. Those for what they are worth are the facts of Kargil:

Step 1- It is due India's Internal Contradictions
Step 2- It is due to non state actors in Pakistan
Step 3- TSP thrashed the IA and IAF
Step 4- When above 3 don't work put false statistics regarding causualty and Miltary position and claim TSP was on the cusp of victory before West along with Paki Politcos snatched defeat from the jaws of victory to claim defeat at the political table.

Every Indian concession is seen in the same manner. Our generousity in allowing them to withdraw without going for the kill is being misinterpreted.

The claims in the above article are as factual as Alam shooting 4 hunters in 30 seconds in 1965. Later withdrawn by tSP when proved wrong.

waiing for anther 5 years when TSP will finally agree it lost 2500 soldiers in Kargil and NLI was decimated.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 11:12

There is a separate match + scoreboard going on in Quetta too.. 3 +9 =12 despatched to their 72..yesterday...And we are not even counting Piss-hour

http://dawn.com/2012/10/16/three-killed ... in-quetta/

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 16 Oct 2012 13:00

More Shias killed in Quetta

Gunmen kill four Shias in Quetta: police

http://dawn.com/2012/10/16/gunmen-kill- ... ta-police/

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 15:54

Bakis back to their natural posture...begging from Unkil..

Unkil's beekh not enough to repair roads

It is strange, they collect transit fee and then also demand repair cost of roads as if the only thing that moves on TSP roads is Unkil's cargo...next they may demand that Unkil also reimburse the cost of AIDS treatment for roadside whores who service the drivers...

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 16:25

Hard hitting article by Eurasiareview (?) actually it is by 'Institute of Conflict management' guy..

http://www.eurasiareview.com/15102012-p ... -analysis/

The situation is infinitely compounded by the complex nexus between Islamist terrorists – principally the TTP, LeJ and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) – religious organisations, politicians, and the military and its various covert agencies

the author is intelligent enough not the buy the fake argument that civilians are nice and not terrorists, something our WKKs seem to buy wholesale and try to retail, through yellow media..he is also realistic enough to know nothing will change..unlike some yellows that are expecting a attack on NW

The widespread outrage over the Malala Yusufzai incident is not, however, a credible index of any change in the civil-military strategy in dealing with Islamist extremism and terrorism in Pakistan

see comment above..

Exposes Sunni Ittihead council's doube-speak on Malala incident..

However, SIC had lent support to Punjab Governor Salman Taseer’s assassin in 2011

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 16 Oct 2012 19:28

A lot of pakis love our BENIS, so that's no surprise.

archan ji, Even though I too don't know the identity, I dont know why I feel he is one of us. I can read our voices in his writings. I will be in for a surprise if he is a Paki.

saip · Post by **saip** » 16 Oct 2012 19:29

AOA, International kirrikket is backkkkkk in Pakiland! No more terrorism!

Link

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 20:29

shiv wrote:
ramana wrote:Any way why are we giving publicity to crazy Pakis?

Nandu that was for you.
Interesting pisko question here.

We seem to support people who seem normal to us and think like us about Pakistanis.

But such thoughts only strengthen the hands of extremists in Pakistan. In fact we should support the unity and integrity of Pakistan under its founding principles - Islam. The Taliban are doing yeoman service to Islam and Pakistan. Having driven one Godless superpower away they are now driving the other back to it hole and they are purifying Pakistan. Rather than supporting anti-Pakistani causes like this major and Lallamamala or whatever it is that girl is called we should break the back of extremists by supporting a unified Islamic Pakistan as promoted by the Taliban.

Pak has only C&C in its future: Collapse or Caliphate.

The former can be seen from the Western idea of Westhphalian nation-state.
The latter can be seen from the steady onward march of the black flags towards Pakjab.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 21:23

archan wrote:A lot of pakis love our BENIS, so that's no surprise.

If I were to place a bet, it has got to be a paki that is using BRF type lingo to pass on the credit (or debit as the case may be) to some mullah in this esteemed forum...the overall content shows too much familiarity with TSP and its ways but then the guru's in this forum that research so deep into Pakshit dont write so funny...or they are keeping it a good secret!

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 21:25

ramana wrote: Pak has only C&C in its future: Collapse or Caliphate.

Why not both? Collapse in western frontier, caliphate in eastern parts of rump TSP...only hopefully after being denooked..

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 21:34

British police stop 2 'well wishers' at Malala's UK hospital...look like ISI wants to finish her off in UKistan so that blame can be avoided as usual..she has been doing too much damage to the deep state..

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 21:38

Suppiah wrote:
ramana wrote: Pak has only C&C in its future: Collapse or Caliphate.
Why not both? Collapse in western frontier, caliphate in eastern parts of rump TSP...only hopefully after being denooked..

Good question. Need to take into account that Caliphate needs contiguous border with West Asia and not India. The Mugahls tried to decalre Claiphate twice Jehangir and Shah Jehan but since the Safavid Persia and Ottomon Turley controlled the Middle East they didnt get any traction.

Also a Caliph needs some marks or 'chinn' to be identified as such.

Among them:
- Sword of Muhammad. Right now in Topkapi muesum
- Personal distinguisging marks I am not so familar with (One of them is Terry Thomas smile!)
- Qureshi family

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Oct 2012 21:40

http://m.ibnlive.com/news/pakistan-read ... 762-3.html

Pakistan is ready to import fuel from India for the right price. Since they are doing us a favor, how much should we pay them?

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 16 Oct 2012 21:46

^^Since pakis feel entitled to everything in India (and everywhere else), we may soon see statements from paki politicians "demanding" that India supply fuel.

Edit: hehe, I spoke too late. This is from the above article

Also, HPCL feels Pakistan is demanding impractically low prices

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 Oct 2012 21:47

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/NJ17Df02.html

A wake-up call for Pakistan's broken society
Karamatullah K Ghori

Another Paki sees his beautiful face in the mirror.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 16 Oct 2012 22:05

Pakistani Taliban Declare War on Media

Mullah Yahya says his biggest complaint against the press these days is that when the Americans or Kabul government forces claim to have killed scores of Taliban fighters in battle, the story makes headlines, whereas if the Taliban say they’ve inflicted similar numbers of casualties, no one seems to believe them. Jihad Yar agrees: “Pakistani and Western media never accept our claims of success,” he says. “They only report whatever they’ve been told by the Pakistani Army and [Pakistani Interior Minister] Rehman Malik. “

The interior minister is only one among a vast number of people Jihad Yar regards as the Taliban’s enemies. They include Americans and secular Pakistanis and “Jewish-funded international TV and newspapers,” predictably enough, of course, along with various other members of the media, including “Pakistan’s Shia TV channels,” which “have been against the Taliban from day one” and a long list of female journalists: “They were at the U.S. Embassy party with wine glasses in their hands and wearing un-Islamic dress with Americans.”

AoA!!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 16 Oct 2012 22:17

something is seriously wrong with Nitish. Why are bihari CM visiting paki land? Laloo when he was CM and now this guy

Nitish to lead Bihar delegation to Pakistan in Nov

Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar will head a high-level delegation of ministers and officials to Pakistan next month to tell the "turnaround" story of the state there.

The delegation will be on a week-long visit to the neighbouring country from November 9-16 at the invitation of some provincial Chief Ministers there, officials in CM's office told PTI today.

He is scheduled to visit Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and will return by road through the Wagah border, they said.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 16 Oct 2012 22:20

AoA we dont want western vaccine for our nanhas
Gunmen kill polio vaccinator in Pakistan

UNKNOWN gunmen have killed a polio vaccinator in Pakistan's restive southwestern province of Baluchistan, highlighting resistance to the country's immunisation campaign, officials say.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 22:23

Suppiah wrote:
ramana wrote: Pak has only C&C in its future: Collapse or Caliphate.

Right now its C&C of Cash and Carry variety. Bring cash and carry any Maal of choice . Soon Lahore will be renamed Amsterdam of East . Bullah will be happy counting Booheys and Baarias watching Ayeshas Hazaria trying to figure out how many managed to remain Kanwaria and how many got vistor's Bimaria .
Future of Pakistan is to become this Dukaan for whole Jahan.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 16 Oct 2012 22:28

Compassion for Pakistan

We need to change the lens through which we view Pakistan from one of conflict to one of compassion.

why? What have pakis done to deserve change in heart of the world. The chickens have come home to roost and pakis want world to empathize

Growing up in Pakistan, I never imagined, even in my wildest dreams, that there would be a time when girls would get shot for going to school. Welcome to the Pakistan that has been hijacked by organized criminals, the Taliban. They call themselves promoters of Islam. But they know nothing about Islam. If they were really familiar with this belief system, they would remember that the first word of revelation in the Quran is "Iqra" (read), and would therefore refrain from bombing girls’ schools.

Well this lie needs to be nailed. Bunnies know HoKo better than any one out there. Also that Iqra thing is read the holy book not read some kafir knowledge as this mohatarma is trying to make us beleive

Pakistanis are exhausted with the barbarism in one form or other that continues to escalate in every passing moment. Youth like Mallala are getting globally isolated every day. Their dreams and actions contribute to a pressure cooker of hope, but they have nowhere to go.

really?

looks like you did not see the enlightened moderates showering their affection on KFC and ATM's on the love prophet day

We need to keep our attention fixed on the women and children of Pakistan. They don't need special envoys, drones, or even foreign aid. What they need is for ordinary citizens of the world to see them through a new lens. What Pakistanis need is compassion. Ordinary citizens of the world have to make Malala and others feel their sympathy for them.

Does this include the chicks from lal masjid? Or what about that girl with down syndrome that you city breds are hallaling right now

They can do this through reaching out via social media to keep the conversation going, which will help keep girls like Malala on the map, and revered and honored by the Pakistani government and civil society. Positive messages of hope and love really do help. This kind of support, constantly streaming through the social media world, should ideally be an ongoing effort and not stop with the news cycle.

how does this help? for all I know Malala might have never seen internet her village is way off the cyber map

e Pakistan feels the world's support and sympathy, Malala and her peers could become even more emboldened to exert themselves and push for reform, instead of spending their time dodging the bullets of angry men.

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Oct 2012 22:29

Green on Green Intra Mohammadden religion inspired sectarian violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, presumably this time perpetrated by followers of Mohammaddenism belonging to the minority Shia / Shiite sect and targeting their co-religionists of the majority Sunni sect. However given that the AWSJ is a Sunni Mohammadden oufit that adheres to the Deoband / Deobandi sub-sect which is locked in a conflict with its fellow Sunni outfit adhering to the Barelvi sub-sect, the Sunni Tehreek, for control of religious properties in Karachi this could just as likely be a spot of sub-sectarian bloodletting:

Five ASWJ men gunned down in ‘sectarian’ attacks

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 16 Oct 2012 22:30

Pakistan: Police torture to death an old age Christian

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Oct 2012 22:37

Brad Goodman wrote:Compassion for Pakistan

BRF should ban any news article that shows Pakis in bad light. That would undermine the piss process between india and china...

arun · Post by **arun** » 16 Oct 2012 22:46

The Asian Human Rights Commission has put out this press release calling for the arrest of Shahbaz Sharif’s daughter and son in law.

Check out the embedded video which has CCTV footage of the incident:

PAKISTAN: The daughter and son-in-law of the chief minister of Punjab must be arrested and prosecuted for torturing and abducting a sweeper

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Oct 2012 22:50

Pakistan was a secular progressive and tolerant society in the 70s. Nobody could have seen this photo (shot in the 70s) and imagined that 40 years later Pakistanis will become fundamentalist and shoot girls for studying!!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 23:11

Brad Goodman wrote:something is seriously wrong with Nitish. Why are bihari CM visiting paki land? Laloo when he was CM and now this guy

Nitish to lead Bihar delegation to Pakistan in Nov

Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar will head a high-level delegation of ministers and officials to Pakistan next month to tell the "turnaround" story of the state there.

The delegation will be on a week-long visit to the neighbouring country from November 9-16 at the invitation of some provincial Chief Ministers there, officials in CM's office told PTI today.

He is scheduled to visit Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and will return by road through the Wagah border, they said.

Vinasha kaale, viparitti buddhi!