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Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 05 Feb 2014 13:19
by Suraj
Interesting collection of raw data on Indian IT exports. Only upto 2012-13, when exports totaled $75 billion:
Software export data

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 07 Feb 2014 02:08
by ashish raval
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/busi ... 958654.cms

Who is this idiot running a defunct airline. I dont know which planet this guys are born !! or they love monumental scandels and scams :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 07 Feb 2014 23:54
by nawabs
₹10 plastic note to be tried out in five cities

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/new ... 665130.ece
Plastic notes in the denomination of ₹10 will be introduced on a pilot basis, Minister of State for Finance Namo Narayan Meena told to the Lok Sabha on Friday.

In a written reply to a question, Meena said about 1billion ₹10 plastic notes will be introduced on a trial basis in five cities — Kochi, Mysore, Jaipur, Shimla and Bhubaneswar. The field trial is expected to be launched in the second half of 2014.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 08 Feb 2014 07:08
by Rahul Mehta
Following is how we can curb the black money in real estate sales. We need a law that

1. Say A sells land to B for say Rs 1 crore
2. Say C offers 25% more than price B had put i.e. Rs 1.25 crore within 30 days
3. Then Govt will give Rs 1.20 crore to B, and give land to C

So now if D wants that land, and comes after 30 days after A has sold land to B, then he will need to offer 25% over Rs 1.25 crore . Now property prices cant increase by 25% every month. So process wont go on forever. Also , when this law, people will stop taking unregistered cash. And later the "25% extra can be reduced to 5% extra". This law exists in Estonia, and may be more countries.

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http://dolr.nic.in/dolr/downloads/PDFs/ ... 013%29.pdf

The above link is land use document published by GoI. On page-6 it says
the net sown areas in the country have increased from 41.8% to 46.1%. the forest areas have increased from 14.2% to 22.8%, and the areas under non - agriculture uses, which include industrial complexes, transport network, mining, heritage sites, water bodies and urban and rural settlements has increased from 3.3% to 8.5% ....... fallow lands have drastically decreased by nearly half from 40.7% to
22.6% .... mining areas are about 0.17% of total land of India, the urban areas are about 2.35% and the industrial areas are much less than 1%."
So real estate prices in Indian cities are high because of artificially created scarcity. May be it is same case across world. Now in India, if all urban cities' area is doubled by including land around city and giving permission of construction on that agricultural or fallow land around cities , then the prices of land across Indian cities would crash royally. Cities are mere 3% of existing and and agricultural land is 46% . So even all land added is agricultural land, then also loss of agricultural land will be at most = 3/46 = at most 6.6%. This is NOT a significant loss of agricultural land. Further, the resultant development will increase irrigation and add more land to agricultural land. So IMO, thats what we should do to promote development of housing, industry, trade, commerce etc.

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So, the so called development is NOT a difficult process at all. All a CM\PM has to do is to convert 6% land outside city into urban land and boom, land pries will come crashing down. And if land price crash has to be avoided on paper, then the PM can print currency to fool people. With printing of currency, the land prices will not crash !! But the real value of urban land would fal if supply is doubled. And so with fall in real value of land, it will become easy for newcomer to start industry etc.

One reason why India lags in development is because PM\CMs in past did NOT convert enough amount of land into urban/industrial/mining land. So supply of land was short, and so prices were high and so development was slow. Why didnt PM\CMs didnt convert land into urban/industrial/mining lands? So why were their attempts to convert land were thwarted by judges in the name of environmentalism? Thats a question I would discuss in conspiracy theory threads and not here.

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Pls google on "uk land use". I get following link

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... mk&cad=rja

page-5 says that UK has urban land = 2748,000 hectares = 27,480 sqkm , which is 11.7% to total UK land

Where as India has only 3% of its land i.e. about 98,000 sqkm of land as urban land !!!

India has population almost 20-25 times UK. And India has urban land only thrice of UK !! No wonder housing is so poor in India.

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Pls google on "uk land use". I get following link

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... mk&cad=rja

page-5 says that UK has urban land = 2748,000 hectares = 27,480 sqkm , which is 11.7% to total UK land

Where as India has only 3% of its land i.e. about 98,000 sqkm of land as urban land !!!

India has population almost 20-25 times UK. And India has urban land only thrice of UK !! No wonder housing is so poor in India.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 08 Feb 2014 17:15
by AbhiJ
PSUs declare $4 Billion in Dividend Despite Huge Losses

The slowdown is denting profits and the future doesn't seem too bright but public sector units (PSUs), especially banks, are doling out interim dividends. PSUs, which are part of the BSE-500 pack, are disbursing interim dividends to the tune of about 25,000 crore (around $4 billion).

The government, which owns a majority stake in these companies, would pocket 20,951.5 crore from these dividends, data showed. In all, 20 PSUs in the BSE-500 pack have declared interim dividends so far in 2014, data with the Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy (CMIE) showed. As many as 14 publicsector banks are offering interim dividends with bulk of the money going into government coffers.

The payouts have been made despite a huge fall in profits, especially in banks, which are offering dividends to the tune of about 2,173 crore. For instance, Corporation Bank, which recorded a 96.2% fall in net profits in the third quarter of the current financial year (October-December ), has declared an interim dividend of 45% ( 4.5 per share).

The bank's profit had plunged to 15.5 crore during the quarter. But the bank is paying 75.4 crore as dividend and out of this 47.7 crore is going to the government. :shock: As many as 10 public-sector banks that have declared interim dividends have seen a sharp fall in net profit in October-December. However, banks alone are disbursing 1,417.5 crore as dividend to the government.

"It is a short-term revenue boost for the government. The government, being the largest owner in these companies, is trying to maximise revenues," said Vikram Dhawan, director, Equentis Capital.

Coal India has emerged as the biggest source of dividend earnings for the government. The PSU coal behemoth, which reported flat growth in profits for July-September, is offering dividends that would increase the government's kitty by 16,485.7 crore.

"It is just a book entry. :rotfl: They (PSUs) are trying to help the government to control fiscal deficit," said Kishor P Ostwal, managing director, CNI Research, an equities research provider. "Fiscal deficit is weighing heavily on the currency and macro-economic outlook," Dhawan said.

The top-20 PSUs, by cash holding, would have an estimated pre-dividend corpus of around 1.6 lakh crore by March 31, 2014, according to estimates made by ratings agency Crisil. These companies are well-placed to pay special dividends of 27,000 crore over and above their normal dividend payouts, without impacting capex (capital expenditure) plans, Crisil said.

An additional income of 20,000 crore would be equal to approximately 20 basis points (or 0.2%) of the GDP (gross domestic product). Without the extra dividends, this year's fiscal deficit is expected to be at 5.2% of the GDP, the agency said. The additional dividend income can help the government reach closer to its stated fiscal deficit target of 4.8% in the current financial year.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 08 Feb 2014 20:18
by Christopher Sidor
^^^^
Great, like a person addicted to cheap credit our government is unable to make the right decision. What is needed is that government spending has to be bought under control.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 09 Feb 2014 16:13
by panduranghari
Rahul Mehta wrote:India has population almost 20-25 times UK. And India has urban land only thrice of UK !! No wonder housing is so poor in India
Just like India has a builder lobby, it's the same in UK. It's dominated by 6 to 7 big boys. The big boys control land. They do not have the man power to get their work done so they subcontract out as is the norm in most building industries.

The problem is not building a house.

The problem is getting 'planning permission'. Many palms have to be greased. Just to give you an idea, a rough list of clearances involved in decision making process
Environmental agency
MOD
Utility companies
Local resident organisation
Local government bodies

Only big boys have the resources to make these investments and see them to fruition.

Besides a very fundamental point is- in UK housing is not a local government issue, it's a national election issue. India has too many problems that this does not register as that big a problem.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 10 Feb 2014 12:18
by kmkraoind
When a PSU bank top job goes for Rs 40 cr, and liquor barons get away with murder

After reading this I got a sad feeling. I think NaMo is stepping up on a landmine, hope his armor is think to withstand it.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 10 Feb 2014 13:03
by Austin
All PSU top position for babus from mid to top level in GOI and even position in Police are up of sale only.

Even posting at lucrative place but in similar position are for sale and generally such thing happens with Government change both in State and Center.

Thats how the cycle of corruption closes , If a posting demands you pay 1 Cr to your bosses then its with the conviction that you will earn 3-5 x the money during the tenure...... this is the unsaid rule of the game.

Recruitment in PSU like Banks , Companies , Police Services are also a very fertile ground for bribe to make the cut.

Infact same is the case with some position in Armed Forces

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 10 Feb 2014 13:40
by Rahul Mehta
kmkraoind wrote:When a PSU bank top job goes for Rs 40 cr, and liquor barons get away with murder

After reading this I got a sad feeling. I think NaMo is stepping up on a landmine, hope his armor is think to withstand it.
Pls dont worry about NaMo. Pls worry ONLY about us commons (commons, not Aam Adami).
Austin wrote:All PSU top position for babus from mid to top level in GOI and even position in Police are up of sale only. Even posting at lucrative place but in similar position are for sale and generally such thing happens with Government change both in State and Center. Thats how the cycle of corruption closes , If a posting demands you pay 1 Cr to your bosses then its with the conviction that you will earn 3-5 x the money during the tenure...... this is the unsaid rule of the game. Recruitment in PSU like Banks , Companies , Police Services are also a very fertile ground for bribe to make the cut. Infact same is the case with some position in Armed Forces
When I said this (= the words in bold) on BRF in 2001 , I was royally based by anti-RM-elements with usual denials like "is everybody corrupt? only you are clean? you are violating the thread boundaries etc". Well, not 100%, but 90% of the positions in Ministries, administration, police and judiciary are also for sale. Some 10% go by merit because Ministers have to deliver to win elections. And some freedom fighters were honest and dint cross the line.


Anyway, this is economics thread and I will stop. You guys can make OST posts and get away, I cant. So I wont discuss this topic any further here.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 10 Feb 2014 14:04
by Austin
I saw and heard this "Bribe Thinge" first hand when I because close to some one high in youth congress and the kind of call they received and the talks ....it can be real mind boggling how much money gets traded and where they are channelized.

Even becoming trustee of some thing like a very famous Religious Place at Nashik is done purely to make money to enrich one self from donations received from Devotees :(

Its really a sorry state of affairs in this country and it spreads across all parties.

The only to eliminate corruption in this country is to formalise it and give it a new name , Call Bribes as Tip paid for service rendered and Bribes given to Ministeries/PSU etc as Lobbying....thats what they do in West.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 10 Feb 2014 14:58
by Aditya_V
Austin-> Thats why everyone waants to become leaders of TTD. Especially many "Rationalists".

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 11 Feb 2014 09:02
by Austin
US launches new trade action against India
The United States on Monday said it would take India to the World Trade Organization to gain a bigger foothold for U.S. manufacturers in its fast-growing solar products market, adding another irritant to an already strained relationship.

The Obama administration said it was filing its second case at the WTO over the domestic content requirements in India's massive solar program, which aims to ease chronic energy shortages in Asia's third-largest economy.

US Trade Representative Michael Froman said making Indian solar developers use locally made equipment discriminated against U.S. producers and could hinder the spread of solar power.

"Domestic content requirements detract from successful cooperation on clean energy and actually impede India's deployment of solar energy by raising its cost," Froman said.

It is the second time in a year that Washington has sought a consultation at the WTO - the first stage in a dispute process that can lead to sanctions - over the Jawaharlal Nehru National Solar Mission.

The USTR issued its first challenge to India's solar program last February when it formally requested consultations over its first stage. The program aims to double India's renewable energy capacity by 2017.

US officials had hoped a second phase of the program would address Washington's concerns, but now fear the harm to American producers would likely be even greater because the rules were expanded in October to cover so-called thin film technology that comprises the majority of US solar product exports to India.

India hit back at the initial US accusations in April, asking Washington to justify its own incentives offered to U.S. companies that use local labour and products in renewable energy and water projects. The Indian embassy in Washington was not immediately available for comment on the latest trade action.

India has argued its solar policies are legal under WTO government procurement rules that permit countries to exempt projects from non-discrimination obligations.

Years in the making


Froman said the action did not undermine the value that the United States placed on its relationship with India, saying: "Today's action addresses a specific issue of concern and in no way detracts from the importance we attach to this relationship." Attorneys for the USTR said later such cases took months to prepare.

US solar trade groups cheered the move and said the United States had been patient in its discussions with India.

"The US government spent two years talking with India trying to encourage them to move away from the local content requirement before initiating the first action roughly a year ago," said John Smirnow, vice president of trade and competitiveness for the Solar Energy Industries Association.

"We are almost three years in the making of the US trying to get India to move back from this local content requirement."

US environmental groups have urged the Obama administration to back off any WTO action, arguing that building up India's solar power industry will help it cut high greenhouse gas emissions.

But the administration has come under growing pressure from lawmakers and business groups to take a tougher stance on perceived Indian protectionist measures and intellectual property rights abuses by Indian drug companies.

India is widely perceived in Washington as a serial trade offender, with US companies unhappy about imports of everything from shrimp to steel pipes they say threaten jobs.

The US International Trade Commission is scheduled to hold a hearing into complaints of trade barriers erected by India on Wednesday and Thursday.

There are 14 past or current World Trade Organization cases between India and the United States, whose bilateral trade in goods measured $63.7 billion last year, not including the latest case.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 11 Feb 2014 15:39
by Aditya_V
The US does nothing about its Huge Trade deficit with China but wants to hit poor india.

From a Humanatarian prespective, creating jobs in a poor country like India is the best way to left millions from poverty, rather than buying from affluent countries like China. All the US officialss involved in such actions are anti-Human.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 12 Feb 2014 07:11
by Cosmo_R
Whether it is the pharmas trying to screw us on IPR or the dying solar industry in the US, the STR actions should not provoke a victim hood response from us. Nor a point by point rebuttal as to why something is 'WTO compliant'.

Here's a thought: on the pharma issue (generic drugs), play the EQ (emotional Quotient) angle. Challenge the big pharmas to price their drugs at the same lower price as generics to make them more competitive in poorer countries. Lot's of PR on what's a life worth? Get the LGBT community on board for the aids drugs, the doctors without borders, Africa.

Hell, get the Pope to admonish. You do this by getting a good PR firm and by wrapping yourself in cloak of fighting for the ordinary folk. Target the pharma CEOs as uncaring. Ads on US TV showing the price differential between EU and the US etc.

On solar panels, just play up how the US states protect and promote solar firms that contribute to politicians.

IOW, anything and everything but victim hood about India being poor, needing a manufacturing base etc. That's not going to work.

The best defense is an offense.

JMT

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 12 Feb 2014 09:20
by Austin
These are just Trade War we might expect in days ahead , As we grow and it pinches the big players in the game they will retaliate ,we must be prepared for this in months and years ahead.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 12 Feb 2014 18:43
by Aditya_V
Things must be really desperate for the Central Government to Levy Servicee Tax on the storge of Rice and cotton, funnily rest of the grains like wheat are exempt. Does INC think it is a TFTA organisation.

Whats going on, rice should be like other agricultural products exempt any time of tax.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 12 Feb 2014 21:51
by Yagnasri
kmkraoind wrote:When a PSU bank top job goes for Rs 40 cr, and liquor barons get away with murder

After reading this I got a sad feeling. I think NaMo is stepping up on a landmine, hope his armor is think to withstand it.
Situation is not so bad. I am in the sector for 2 decades and know some very bad cases. Yet I say compared to other areas like Press, Judges, IAS/IPS gangs, bankers are much better lot. Of course I am being one this statement may be self certification.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 13 Feb 2014 00:55
by saip
Ford's aluminum secret weapon
Ford Motor Co.'s gutsy decision to build its next-generation F-Series pickups, starting this summer, from aluminum instead of steel prompted whistles of amazement across the industry.

Ford's lead aluminum supplier is Novelis, an Atlanta-based subsidiary of an Indian conglomerate.

Novelis belongs to Hindalco Industries Ltd., a subsidiary of Aditya Birla Group, a multinational conglomerate based in Mumbai.
CNN

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 13 Feb 2014 06:26
by Suraj
Exports rose while trade deficit plummeted in January
Exports rose 3.79% to $26.75 billion in January from a year ago, moderately ahead of the 3.5% rise recorded in December, data released on Tuesday showed.

Imports dropped at the fastest pace in four months in January, declining 18.07% to $36.6 billion because of a 77% plunge in bullion imports, helping narrow the trade deficit to $9.92 billion in January from $10.14 billion in December. "We now firmly believe that FY14 CAD (current account deficit) should go below $40 billion and would closer to 2% of India's GDP," said Soumya Kanti Ghosh, chief economic adviser, State Bank of India
Part of the weakness in exports is because of the import controls on gold. They're meant only to target domestic consumption, but seems to have also affected the jewelry export sector due to ineffective firewalling between the domestic and export-oriented parts of the industry.

Overall, between Apr-Jan for this fiscal, exports are $257B, while imports are $376B. I don't know why the SBI economist claims CAD will be below $40 billion. If exports continue to rise so that merchandise deficit for the year is around $135 billion, with an estimated $80 billion services surplus, that would put the CAD at $55 billion. There are two more months to go. Perhaps they expect much stronger export figures in Feb and March.

RBI's forex reserves remain stable at $292 billion at the end of January even after the emerging market FII exit recently which reduced forex holdings by $3.5 billion from $296 billion in early January. So they're not under much pressure on that front anymore; last August/September before the gold import clampdown, forex reserves were down to around $275 billion.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 13 Feb 2014 10:18
by Prem
Where do they count 70 Billion Plus invisibles ?

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 13 Feb 2014 11:54
by Suraj
Those come in under total balance of payments. We have a net positive on that count because remittance invisibles exceed the CAD, which is why forex reserves are slowly rising again.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 15 Feb 2014 06:14
by Suraj
Some absurdly high food price inflation numbers amidst overall falling wholesale price inflation:
WPI-based inflation falls to 8-month low
The wholesale price index (WPI)-based inflation eased to an eight-month low of 5.05 per cent in January from 6.16 per cent in the previous month, pulled down mainly by food prices. The data came on a day when the government said the country was going to produce record food grain of 263.2 million tonnes in 2013-14.

Inflation in food items was down to a single digit for the first time since May at 8.80 per cent in January from 13.68 per cent in the previous month. The rate of price rise in onions — one of the prime causes of high inflation in the previous months — plunged to 6.59 per cent from 39.65 per cent in December. Overall vegetable inflation plummeted to 16.60 per cent from 57.33 per cent.

Cereal prices rose 9.27 per cent in January year-on-year, lower than 10.19 per cent in the previous month. The agriculture department said on Friday that rice production was expected to be at an all-time high at 106.19 million tonnes and wheat production at a record 95.60 million tonnes in 2013-14.

With inflation coming closer to the RBI’s comfort zone of 5 per cent, expectations are that the central bank might ease policy rates to spur economic growth.

However, some economists caution that the RBI might not tinker with rates as core inflation (related to non-oil and non-food items) has shown an uptick. The RBI will have one more data set next month before deciding on policy.

Core inflation inched up to 3 per cent in January from 2.8 per cent a month back. Inflation in manufactured items went up to 2.76 per cent in January from 2.64 per cent in the previous month. “WPI-based inflation has eased in line with improved agricultural supplies. Manufactured inflation remains sticky, implying that some pricing power is left with companies,” said Rupa Rege Nitsure, chief economist at Bank of Baroda.
As mentioned previously, falling gems/jewelry exports contribute to soft export growth recently:
Gems and jewellery exports to rise
India’s diamond jewellery export is likely to see a rise in the coming months due to indications of revival in the economies of America and China, which together constitute two-thirds of global jewellery consumption.

Gems and jewellery export fell 8.7 per cent during the first nine months of the current financial year to $25,076 million (Rs 150,257 crore) from $27,465 mn (Rs 149,955 crore) in the corresponding period last year.

“We expect a slight strengthening in growth in diamond jewellery demand in 2014, driven by continued gradual improvements in the global economic outlook. The US and China are expected to continue to be the main engines of growth for polished diamonds. Most other markets are expected to show positive growth in local currency, with final dollar-denominated results being partly dependent on currency fluctuations,” said Mark Cutifani, chief executive of Anglo American, the parent company of De Beers, while presenting financial results of the company on Friday.
My guesstimate is that merchandise exports for the year upto March 2014 will be $310-320 billion, less than the target of $335 billion, due to slow export growth in the last 3 months.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 15 Feb 2014 06:41
by Suraj
Some have asked about the Rupee-Dollar situation. Here's something about that:
Expect a sharp fall in current account deficit in FY14
India’s trade deficit – the difference between merchandise exports and imports -- continues to improve with each passing month, easing pressure on the rupee and cushioning the blow from the monetary tightening by US Federal Reserve. The trade deficit fell to $9.9 billion in January this year from $10.1 billion in the previous month and $20 billion in January 2013. On an annualised basis, trade deficit is now down to $145 billion or around 7.5% of the GDP during the 12 months ending January 2014 from an all time high of 11.3% in FY13, according to figures by RBI.

CAD is likely to fall to a manageable level of 2.2% of GDP by March this year from over 5% in FY13,” says Devendra Pant, chief economist at India Ratings.

A reduction in current account deficit is likely to reduce the downward pressure on rupee that has depreciated by nearly 27% in last two years. Some experts are now expecting the rupee to appreciate marginally. India Ratings for example expects the rupee to rise to Rs 60 to a dollar by the end of March and Rs 57 to a dollar by March 2015.

More importantly, it will reduce India’s dependence on volatile foreign capital inflows such as portfolio investments to fund current account deficit. At its peak, India required nearly $7 billion worth of capital inflows every month to fund CAD. Now this requirement will be down to around $3-4 billion a month. This could be easily funded through foreign direct investment that is highly stable and less prone to policy moves by central banks. In the last five years, inbound FDI in India has been well above $50 billion and is likely to grow further as more MNCs look to capitalize from the growth opportunity in India.

The only risk to this otherwise benign outlook on India’s external sector is a likely spike in imports once industrial activity revives in line with economic recovery later this year. Fall in imports, both crude oil and non-oil, have played a big role in deficit reduction. Crude oil imports were down 10.1% in January while non-oil imports were down 22%.

On the brighter side, exports continue to grow, up 3.8% in January due to gains from rupee depreciation and economic recovery in Europe and the US. Experts expect this trend to continue and thus dampen the negative impact of a likely import surge next fiscal. The crisis has been averted for now.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 11:35
by Austin
Interim Budget 2014 Highlights

Following are the highlights of his speech:

Global cues not to overly hit India, India held its head above water during global crisis
Fiscal deficit for 2013-14 will be contained at 4.6%
Export seen at $326 billion showing 6.3 per cent year-on-year growth
Growth for FY14 estimated at 4.9%; Q3, Q4 growth seen at 5.2%
I reject the argument of policy paralysis
Let history be the judge of last 10 years
Economy in much better shape now than it was two years ago
10-year trend growth rate at 6.2 per cent, UPA I and II delivered above trend rate
Fiscal deficit down, CAD down, inflation moderated and growth picking up
Merchandise export to grow by 6.8% to USD 326 billion
3 more industrial corridors - Chennai-Bangalore, Bangalore-Mumbai, Amritsar-Kolkata - under various stages of implementation
GDP growth rate in Q3 and Q4 of 2013-14 will be at least 5.2%
Power capacity rises to 234,600 MW in 10 years
Expenditure on education has risen from Rs 10,145 crore 10 years ago to Rs 79,251 crore this year
Sugar decontrol, gradual correction of diesel prices, application for new bank licenses, sick electricity distribution companies restructured
Plan expenditure to remain unchanged at 5.55 lakh crore in 2014-15
Government fully committed to Aadhaar project. Even critics of the project will realise it's a tool of empowerment
Budgetary support to Railways increased
PSUs to achieve record capex of Rs 2,57,645 crore in 2013-14
500 MW fast breeder nuclear reaction in Kalpakkam to be ready shortly; 7 nuclear power reactors under construction
National Solar Mission to undertake 4 ultra mega solar power projects in 2014-15
Rs 1,200 crore additional assistance to N-E states to be released before end of the year
Rs 1,000 crore grant for Nirbhaya Fund will be non-lapsable; another Rs 1,000 crore to be given next fiscal
Non planned expenditure at 12.7 lakh crore
Fuel subsidy pegged at Rs 65,000 crore, food subsidy at Rs 1.15 lakh crore in 2014-15
Fuel subsidy worth Rs 35,000 crore to be rolled over in 2014-15
Rs 3,370 crore to transferred to 2.1 crore LPG users; Government committed to Aadhaar-based LPG transfer but scheme on hold temporarily
Defence allocation up 10% at Rs 2.24 lakh crore
Government has accepted principle of one rank, one pay for defence forces
Food subsidy will be Rs 1,15,000 crore for implementation of National Food Security Act
Budgetary support to Railways increased from Rs 26,000 crore to Rs 29,000 crore 2014-15
Rs 2,46,397 crore allocated for food, fertilizer and fuel subsidy
Plan expenditure will be Rs 5,55,322 crore in 2014-15, unchanged from last fiscal.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 20:48
by Aditya_V
The 4.6% is dubious, the dividend for profit income from loss making PSU's which will never be paid is included. Plus simple stuff like Telegnana new state package is also not disclosed.

And from where are we going to get 80,000 Cr from corporate and non corporate Income Tax in 2014-15 compared to 2013-14. Same for Indirect tax growth rates.

Even with this he expects Public debt to increase by 5 Lac crores.

We are in bad shape and it will take atleast 3 years of good governance to set our house in order.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 21:08
by chola
Suraj wrote:Those come in under total balance of payments. We have a net positive on that count because remittance invisibles exceed the CAD, which is why forex reserves are slowly rising again.

Remittances have always been stable. What does fluctuates violently is the amount of FII coming in or cashing out. FII has steadily reversed course the past months mainly through the steady hand of Rajan.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 21:22
by chola
Aditya_V wrote:The US does nothing about its Huge Trade deficit with China but wants to hit poor india.

From a Humanatarian prespective, creating jobs in a poor country like India is the best way to left millions from poverty, rather than buying from affluent countries like China. All the US officialss involved in such actions are anti-Human.

China was piss poor until the US began buying from them. And the US pretty much only buys from Western and Japanese subsidiaries in China. You can't find one American who can name even a single chini company.

Do you know why? The chinis don't respect and protect IP so who in hell will trust them?

Now you want India and its generic drug makers to be in the same boat as the PRC? We can build respectful brands because we do have rule of law.

If we screw up the India brand by violating IP just like the PRC then we lose everything since we cannot attract MNC subsidiaries like the chinis and other E and SE Asians could because of our leftist leaning babus in Dehli.

Playing the "poor" card gets us treated like Africans onlee.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 22:10
by Suraj
chola wrote:Remittances have always been stable. What does fluctuates violently is the amount of FII coming in or cashing out. FII has steadily reversed course the past months mainly through the steady hand of Rajan.
I would not call remittances to India 'stable', which implies a rangebound figure. They're growing quite strongly actually. Remittances were, in billion $s:
2003–2004 21.61
2004–2005 20.25
2005–2006 24.55
2006–2007 29.10
2007–2008 37.2
2008–2009 51.6
2009–2010 55.06
2011–2012 58
2012–2013 70

For 2013-14, about $75 billion in remittances is likely.

FDI, as mentioned in the article above, has stabilized above $50 billion a year. FII inflows fluctuate, but they don't have as much a major role anymore, because FDI+remittances (>$120 billion) as an absolute figure dwarfs FII now, since the latter is about 1/6th or less. The merchandise trade deficit is the prime contributor to BoP issues.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 17 Feb 2014 23:51
by Theo_Fidel
This particular battle has nothing to do with IP or trade deficits or brands, etc.

It comes down to one company, First Solar, that makes thin film CDTE panels that are hyper efficient at running in hot weather like India. Most of First Solar's equipment is manufactured in Malaysia. First Solar right now supplies a large chunk of the India market but is reluctant to build a manufacturing plant here, for presumably infrastructure and technology reasons. That is the entire argument.
chola wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:The US does nothing about its Huge Trade deficit with China but wants to hit poor india.

From a Humanitarian perspective, creating jobs in a poor country like India is the best way to left millions from poverty, rather than buying from affluent countries like China. All the US officialss involved in such actions are anti-Human.
Now you want India and its generic drug makers to be in the same boat as the PRC? We can build respectful brands because we do have rule of law.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 07:30
by gakakkad
Suraj wrote:Some have asked about the Rupee-Dollar situation. Here's something about that:Expect a sharp fall in current account deficit in FY14
India’s trade deficit – the difference between merchandise exports and imports -- continues to improve with each passing month, easing pressure on the rupee and cushioning the blow from the monetary tightening by US Federal Reserve. The trade deficit fell to $9.9 billion in January this year from $10.1 billion in the previous month and $20 billion in January 2013. On an annualised basis, trade deficit is now down to $145 billion or around 7.5% of the GDP during the 12 months ending January 2014 from an all time high of 11.3% in FY13, according to figures by RBI.

CAD is likely to fall to a manageable level of 2.2% of GDP by March this year from over 5% in FY13,” says Devendra Pant, chief economist at India Ratings.

A reduction in current account deficit is likely to reduce the downward pressure on rupee that has depreciated by nearly 27% in last two years. Some experts are now expecting the rupee to appreciate marginally. India Ratings for example expects the rupee to rise to Rs 60 to a dollar by the end of March and Rs 57 to a dollar by March 2015.

More importantly, it will reduce India’s dependence on volatile foreign capital inflows such as portfolio investments to fund current account deficit. At its peak, India required nearly $7 billion worth of capital inflows every month to fund CAD. Now this requirement will be down to around $3-4 billion a month. This could be easily funded through foreign direct investment that is highly stable and less prone to policy moves by central banks. In the last five years, inbound FDI in India has been well above $50 billion and is likely to grow further as more MNCs look to capitalize from the growth opportunity in India.

The only risk to this otherwise benign outlook on India’s external sector is a likely spike in imports once industrial activity revives in line with economic recovery later this year. Fall in imports, both crude oil and non-oil, have played a big role in deficit reduction. Crude oil imports were down 10.1% in January while non-oil imports were down 22%.

On the brighter side, exports continue to grow, up 3.8% in January due to gains from rupee depreciation and economic recovery in Europe and the US. Experts expect this trend to continue and thus dampen the negative impact of a likely import surge next fiscal. The crisis has been averted for now.

It has been discussed elsewhere why this could be mere statistical jugglery . Rise in gold import duty ,caused increase in smuggled gold,which was off books. It showed lower import bills ,but in reality our imports did not decline..

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 07:51
by Suraj
There'll always be informal economic activity, and it cannot be effectively counted because... it's informal. Official data shows that imports have fallen, as has the CAD, while forex reserves have risen again. Smuggling is therefore most likely resulting an exchange of black money hard currency that did not come in through the RBI's official channels, for gold. As such it doesn't affect the official exchange rate or any aspect of the BoP, but just increases the supply of domestic gold. From my perspective, it's better that we have the gold than the black money $s; the gold will make it back into local circulation quietly, unlike the $s.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 09:55
by Prem
Gold smuggling in fact effect the foreign exchange thingy of our good neighbor Pakistan. Smugglers in Dubai use Pb as well Bombay route and conduct Business in hard currency. Paki Middlemen have to come up with $ in Rokra which would have otherwise end up with Paki Sarakar .

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 12:13
by Aditya_V
Cant blame first solar, having had first hand experience with taxmen under in thee last 5 years, every MNC is running away.

Hostile Tax laws and a running down of infratsturre in the name of AAm Aadmi while encouraging imports have really hammered the Indian economy.

With India's various laws, local mafias and poor infratsrtucture. No one wants to set up plants here.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 21:18
by Austin
Gold Smuggling Encourages black market and the differential gain in black money ends up in the coffers of the likes of Dawood Ibrahim who in turn will use the same money to fuel terrorism in India .. this is like GOI bank rolling the terrorist.

For a short term gain to keep CAD under control due to election , GOI is acting penny wise pound foolish.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 22:06
by Singha
air india will be given its usual annual bailout package of around $1 billion.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 22:23
by Suraj
I don't quite understand how gold smuggling and terrorism are related directly. No additional funds are being generated here, beyond marginal price difference of gold abroad and in India less smuggling costs, which decreases when supply increases. This is a laundering operation. The money is already there, before and after smuggling for any would-be terrorist. Let's look at the sequence:

* Smuggler buys gold in Dubai or elsewhere using black money, probably a few percent cheaper than Mumbai spot price.
* Ships gold securely to Mumbai coast. This costs money - hiring boat, reliable henchmen, ability to avoid CG...
* Gold sold into domestic consumption market in exchange for rupees.

Besides shipping costs, the smuggler incurs time spread risk, i.e. difference in price between when he bought it and sold it. In a choppy/falling market this business is unviable. It works best when the market is rising. Gold is down ~20% from its Sept 2013 peak when the duty was applied, in the Indian spot market. I'm sure there's been plenty of smuggling to meet demand and just launder cash, but I question whether it's been really viable, because the market situation indicates it would have been hard to break even.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 18 Feb 2014 22:32
by Supratik
Smuggling like any business even if illegal will depend on profit. If there is no profit no one will smuggle. The profit goes to crime syndicates some of which are anti-India like DI. The profit from smuggling will be an additional source of income for terror-sponsors like DI. So the link. This can be at best a short term measure to help stabilize the rupee which is under stress due to governance issues leading to economic problems.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 19 Feb 2014 06:35
by Suraj
Both Andy Mukherjee and R Jagannathan think poorly of the interim budget:
Andy Mukherjee: Mr Chidambaram's magic show
This mirage of fiscal consolidation is the result of a well-known trick. Mr Chidambaram himself has demonstrated the sleight of hand more than once before. The assumptions for revenue growth that went into the forecast are so wildly optimistic that investors will discard them as unbelievable anyway. India's next government will come up with its own - hopefully more realistic - projections for tax and privatisation proceeds by July.

Besides, even if Mr Chidambaram's deficit reduction scenario proved accurate, it could actually mean self-defeating austerity. Hitting the target would require a severe compression in public spending which, if attempted, could stall the sputtering economy. Even then, the deficit target might remain elusive because tax collections would also decline. At the same time, the next government will have to shoulder the burden of an extra one per cent of GDP in subsidies deferred from this year.

But the truly disappointing part of Mr Chidambaram's performance was its utter pointlessness: the finance minister didn't really have to act as an illusionist. Investors who not long ago cheered his reform plans would have much preferred a gritty, honest appraisal of the tough trade-offs that face an economy mired in stagflation and a confident, bold strategy to break out of a largely self-inflicted middle-income trap. What's more, Mr Chidambaram could have found it in him to be imaginative. After all, it's very unlikely that his government will return to power after this year's general election. That means he wouldn't have to follow through on any tough promises.

Rather than propose anything new, the finance minister used his bully pulpit in Parliament to preach to the central bank, asking it to "strike a balance between price stability and growth". This was a thinly veiled attack on Reserve Bank Governor Raghuram Rajan's plan to turn the Indian monetary authority into an inflation-targeting central bank.

The attack makes little sense. After all, Mr Rajan's painful reversal of his predecessor's premature interest rate cuts has managed to bring retail inflation down to below 10 per cent. Consumer expectations of future price gains are still not well anchored, which is why Mr Rajan wants to install a credible monetary policy regime. And he's right. As the US Federal Reserve removes the worldwide glut of cheap dollars, high-inflation emerging economies are sitting ducks for episodes of capital outflows such as the one that saw the rupee plunge last summer.

But the growth-inflation trade-off wasn't the only one Mr Chidambaram missed. He pointed out that in recent years India's investment rate hadn't fallen as fast as the savings rate. That's no reason, though, for the government to pat itself on its back. The difference between the two rates, after all, is the country's current account balance. It's only because domestic financial savings collapsed, with households getting spooked by high inflation and moving their money into gold, that the current account deficit widened precipitously, creating a large vulnerability to fickle global capital flows. The authorities were woefully late in waking up to the gap, and only did so when the currency and bond markets gave them the unpleasant message that financing the shortfall was going to be a severe challenge given the rising global cost of capital.

It was surprising, therefore, that Mr Chidambaram made light of the current account deficit in his speech. He said that when it comes to financing the deficit, "there is no room for any aversion to foreign investment" regardless of whether it is equity or debt. But debt-creating hot money inflows induce financial crises with unfailing regularity in emerging markets. Foreign direct investment, which is largely in the form of equity, doesn't have the same destabilising effect. To say the nature of capital inflows doesn't matter for India is pure hubris. Believing it will simply keep the financial system forever at the mercy of hot money. Lowering that vulnerability means competing for multinational corporations' investment dollars. But India's investment climate is not improving. The tax regime has become unpredictable. On such "doing business" issues, the Budget had precious little to say.
Chidambaram’s budget trick: Why you shouldn’t be fooled
In the budget he presented last February, Chidambaram had pencilled in a revenue deficit of Rs 3,79,838 crore – or 3.3 percent of GDP. The difference between this number and the fiscal deficit number (Rs 5,42,499 crore) matters less, since the extra spending over the revenue deficit would presumably be going into investment – which is like like sowing the seeds of future revenues.

The reason why Chidambaram is making a song-and-dance about the fiscal deficit and his red line is simple: it is intended to take our attention away from the revenue deficit, which is the real number to monitor. If this number is lower than the 3.3 percent that he talked about last year, it is at least an improvement; if it is more, it is bad. A higher revenue deficit indicates real bad kinds of spending – as in subsidies and administrative costs.

It is worth recalling that in the grow-grow years of UPA-1, this was the number Chidambaram was unable to manage. In his last budget for UPA-1, Chidambaram, in fact, said that he was relaxing the targets set for revenue deficit in the Fiscal Responsibility and Budget Management Act (FRBM Act).

After liberally throwing freebies at the electorate – including the Rs 72,000 crore farm loan waiver and high outlays on make-work schemes – Chidambaram had this to say in his 2008-09 budget: “In the case of revenue deficit, I will meet the target of annual reduction of 0.5 percent. However, because of the conscious shift in expenditure in favour of health, education and the social sector, we may need one more year to eliminate the revenue deficit. In my view, this is an entirely acceptable deferment."

In 2008, Chidambaram was talking about eliminating the revenue deficit in "one more year". The UPA was re-elected, but neither Chidambaram nor his successor, Pranab Mukherjee, made good on this specific promise about eliminating the revenue deficit next year.

At 3.3 percent, the revenue deficit is still too high four years later - nowhere near zero. The deficit, which was to end in 2009-10, is simply beyond the reach of the spendthrift UPA which has used taxpayers’ money repeatedly to buy votes.

Re: Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

Posted: 19 Feb 2014 10:14
by Austin
Suraj wrote:I don't quite understand how gold smuggling and terrorism are related directly. No additional funds are being generated here, beyond marginal price difference of gold abroad and in India less smuggling costs, which decreases when supply increases. This is a laundering operation. The money is already there, before and after smuggling for any would-be terrorist. Let's look at the sequence:

* Smuggler buys gold in Dubai or elsewhere using black money, probably a few percent cheaper than Mumbai spot price.
* Ships gold securely to Mumbai coast. This costs money - hiring boat, reliable henchmen, ability to avoid CG...
* Gold sold into domestic consumption market in exchange for rupees.

Besides shipping costs, the smuggler incurs time spread risk, i.e. difference in price between when he bought it and sold it. In a choppy/falling market this business is unviable. It works best when the market is rising. Gold is down ~20% from its Sept 2013 peak when the duty was applied, in the Indian spot market. I'm sure there's been plenty of smuggling to meet demand and just launder cash, but I question whether it's been really viable, because the market situation indicates it would have been hard to break even.
If you are not aware thats how D made most of his fortune via Gold Smuggling prior to 1991 ....and contrary to belief the difference earns a good amount ......else according to GOI own estimates the smuggling are rising post the 10 % tax.

You are not only encouraging black market which in turn funds Terrorism but also encouraging terrorism as these smugglers pay their cut to customer officers , police etc remember how RDX was smuggled in Mumbai in 1992 in guise of smuggling gold.

Plus GOI also looses on money
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/eco ... 661227.ece


The Government lost $1 billion (₹6,200 crore) in revenue from duties and taxes last year due to the sharp increase in smuggling of gold.

Speaking to Business Line, Aram Shishmanian, Chief Executive Officer, World Gold Council, said curbs imposed by the Government has led to 150-200 tonnes of gold being smuggled into India and a potential revenue of $1 billion was lost in terms of taxes.

“The irony is the money would not be recovered in the years to come. Once into the grey market, the gold would remain there and never come into the legitimate trade,” he said.

That 200 tonnes of gold came in through the black market route means that regardless of the Government measures, gold demand continues in India and is growing gradually, he added.

Last year, over 15 regulatory changes to curb gold demandwere made by the Government. The changes caused a scare in the jewellery industry.

Any industry that has to respond to the changes is going to get grid locked, particularly with the 80:20 rule, said Shishmanian. In a bid to curb gold imports, the Government increased import duty to eight per cent, and the Reserve Bank of India made it mandatory for jewellers to export 20 per cent of their gold consignment before placing orders for fresh gold imports.

High import duty and other restrictions fuelled smuggling and black marketing industry. The scourge of smuggling, which was largely eradicated in 1991 when gold imports were liberalised, has come back with a vengeance. Therefore, policy makers need to consider the consequence carefully, he said.

We are in some ways back to pre-1991 situation ......hope we dont see a 1992 like scenario specially in Mumbai