Bharat Rakshak

invade Tunisia and Algeria

LokeshC wrote:They did not do jack when their Engineers working on scorpene (IIRC) were halaaled. If it is indeed ISI, nothing much will happen, infact I doubt if anything will happen to the jarnails.

A senior official familiar with the investigation said authorities suspected that as many as 20 people in Europe had been involved in planning, supporting and executing the attack.

LokeshC wrote:... unfinished some unfinished bizness in eye-raq.

LokeshC wrote:This time, the French are mad. You can bet that their "anger" will be hijacked by vested interests.
Remains to be seen which country will be attacked

In June, Cazeneuve stated that some 40 foreign imams had been deported from France for preaching hatred in the past three years.

Singha wrote:>>admiral from ISI who ordered/planned it was tortured and made sure that he needs wheelchair for rest of his ugly life

any sources?

The most thrilling details cited in the Nautilus whose author has been identified as Claude Thevenet, a former agent of the DST, French intelligence agency, is the revenge of the French.

An Internet information site Mediapart spoke to Thevenet. The DGSE would have organised a special operation with French commandos (Service Action), specialised in clandestine operations outside French territory. One Pakistani officer would have been killed and three admirals would have ended with broken knees. 'On ne fait pas chanter la France! (One does not blackmail France!)'. Karachi had tried to blackmail the French government refusing to pay the promised commissions.

Katharine Murphy in Antalya, Turkey

Sunday 15 November 2015
The United States and Russia have reached consensus at the G20 on the need for “a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition” following a sidelines meeting between Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin on Sunday.

G20 to discuss threat of Isis infiltrators among EU migrants after Paris attacks

A White House official said Obama and Putin had agreed the United Nations would mediate negotiations between the Syrian opposition and the regime after a ceasefire.

The thaw between Obama and Putin came in the lead-up to the summit’s working dinner, where G20 leaders were due to focus on strategies to counter violent extremism.

Earlier in the day, the US president used his opening remarks at the summit to declare America would intensify efforts to “eliminate” Islamic State and also bring about a “peaceful transition” in Syria.

The Australian prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, had a brief discussion with president Obama before the leaders gathered for the G20 “family photo”.

Turnbull and Obama will meet for longer talks at the Apec summit in Manila on Tuesday.

In addition to pushing a political solution for Syria, officials told the Guardian, Obama used interventions during summit sessions on Sunday to urge leaders to produce a strong communiqué on climate change as a precursor to the UN-led climate talks in Paris next month.

Turnbull also made a couple of interventions during Sunday’s sessions, noting the Antalya summit would not meet the economic growth targets set last year in Brisbane to raise collective gross domestic product by more than 2%.

Turnbull, at his first international summit since taking over as prime minister from Tony Abbott, introduced himself to his G20 counterparts by delivering a well-worn stump speech about the importance of agility and innovation, and referring to his domestic policy agenda to boost urban infrastructure.

Turnbull quoted the mayor of Bogota: “A developed coun­try is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use pub­lic trans­port.”

G20 honours victims of terrorism

The opening G20 session on Sunday paused for a minute’s silence to honour the 129 victims of Friday’s terror attacks in Paris, and the 102 people who died in Ankara in October when two bombs were detonated outside the railway station.

The G20 host, Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said terrorism was a threat to the world’s peace and security. There was a link between the global economy, the core focus of the G20 grouping, and security, he said.

With the summit overshadowed by the shocking events in Paris, Turnbull used a bilateral meeting with the French foreign minister, Laurent Fabius, to reiterate Australia’s support. “We are utterly shoulder to shoulder with you in the fight against terrorism,” Turnbull said.
David Cameron arrives in Turkey for very different G20 summit

Fabius, who is standing in at the G20 for president François Hollande, told Turnbull the Paris attack had been a shock to his country.

He said extremists were provoking “civil war” by trying to divide his country against Muslims who are “not at all terrorists”.

Fabius said the attacks were deliberate strikes against French values and the French way of life – not a protest against military actions in Syria and Iraq. “What they do not accept is, it is not our actions – it is what we are.”

Fabius said the terrorists deliberately targeted a nightclub district because they “don’t accept the fact that we dance”.

“They want the majority of the population to equate Muslims to terrorism in order to have some sort of civil war,” he said.

European leaders at the summit rejected calls by right wing populist parties and governments in the EU to drastically overhaul migration rules in the wake of the Paris attacks.

The European Commission president, Jean-Claude Juncker, said refugees fleeing Syria were trying to escape extremism, not perpetrate it.

“Those who organised, who perpetrated, the attacks are the very same people who the refugees are fleeing, and not the opposite,” Juncker said in a press conference. “And so there is no need for an overall review of the European policy on refugees.”

Turnbull focused on trade talks
The prime minister pushed on with a program of bilateral meetings at the Antalya summit on Sunday.

Australia to launch free trade talks with EU in 2017
Early in the day he secured agreement from the leadership of the European Union to begin negotiations on a free trade agreement between Australia and the EU in 2017.

Turnbull had previously secured the backing of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, during their meeting in Berlin on Friday to pursue the free trade agreement with the EU.

Later on Sunday, Turnbull met the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, to press for the conclusion of a bilateral trade deal with New Delhi. Turnbull told Modi Australia was “very keen” to progress trade talks.

Modi said Australia and India were “very close friends and forging ahead as strategic partners.”

Turnbull was due to meet the president of China, Xi Jinping, on the sidelines of the G20 summit on Monday morning before leaving Turkey for the Apec summit.

Alka_P wrote:ISIS is more or less a collaboration between middle western mullas and western munnas. The main question is what the f*ck are these morons trying to do? arming syrian rebels who were also radical muslims with latest western weapons, letting in hordes of syrians, pukies, banglas etc. into europe.. is it all being done just for votes and corporate profits? What's the end game here?

johneeG wrote:
Middle-east starts and ends with just one thing: oil.

Singha wrote:>>admiral from ISI who ordered/planned it was tortured and made sure that he needs wheelchair for rest of his ugly life

any sources?

The most thrilling details cited in the Nautilus whose author has been identified as Claude Thevenet, a former agent of the DST, French intelligence agency, is the revenge of the French.

An Internet information site Mediapart spoke to Thevenet. The DGSE would have organised a special operation with French commandos (Service Action), specialised in clandestine operations outside French territory. One Pakistani officer would have been killed and three admirals would have ended with broken knees. 'On ne fait pas chanter la France! (One does not blackmail France!)'. Karachi had tried to blackmail the French government refusing to pay the promised commissions.

hnair wrote:

Singha wrote:>>admiral from ISI who ordered/planned it was tortured and made sure that he needs wheelchair for rest of his ugly life

any sources?

Nautilus Report DGSE cracked the knee of one of the targeted three admirals and the brave baki-fauj fell in line

Le Monde

rediff

The most thrilling details cited in the Nautilus whose author has been identified as Claude Thevenet, a former agent of the DST, French intelligence agency, is the revenge of the French.

An Internet information site Mediapart spoke to Thevenet. The DGSE would have organised a special operation with French commandos (Service Action), specialised in clandestine operations outside French territory. One Pakistani officer would have been killed and three admirals would have ended with broken knees. 'On ne fait pas chanter la France! (One does not blackmail France!)'. Karachi had tried to blackmail the French government refusing to pay the promised commissions.

Alka_P wrote:

johneeG wrote:
Middle-east starts and ends with just one thing: oil.

That's obvious but why are they promoting islam in their own countries? is saudi barbaria really that influential? And then unkil already has amassed a fairly large oil reserve why kiss the arabian a$$ now?

hnair wrote:

Singha wrote:>>admiral from ISI who ordered/planned it was tortured and made sure that he needs wheelchair for rest of his ugly life

any sources?

Nautilus Report DGSE cracked the knee of one of the targeted three admirals and the brave baki-fauj fell in line

Le Monde

rediff

The most thrilling details cited in the Nautilus whose author has been identified as Claude Thevenet, a former agent of the DST, French intelligence agency, is the revenge of the French.

An Internet information site Mediapart spoke to Thevenet. The DGSE would have organised a special operation with French commandos (Service Action), specialised in clandestine operations outside French territory. One Pakistani officer would have been killed and three admirals would have ended with broken knees. 'On ne fait pas chanter la France! (One does not blackmail France!)'. Karachi had tried to blackmail the French government refusing to pay the promised commissions.

Singha wrote:not sure there is grand plan...people make up rules as they go along.

'Housing blocks are being stormed'

Heavily armed tactical units have launched coordinated operations from Calais to Toulouse, making dozens of arrests in areas linked with radical Islamists who may have helped seven suicide bombers carry out the Paris attacks.

Referring to the RAID and GIPN, anti-terrorist units of the French National Police, one witness in in the Paris suburb of Bobigny said just before dawn: "There are hundreds of them everywhere.

"Housing blocks are being stormed, and doors broken down. They are shouting 'Police, Police!' and pulling suspects away."

Raids were reported in other parts of the Paris suburbs, as well as in Grenoble and Jeamont, close to France's border with Belgium.

It was in the same area that police questioned one of the alleged killers on Saturday morning - but let him go after he showed them his ID card.

Paris terror: History won’t forgive if West doesn’t learn lessons now
John Wight
Published time: 15 Nov, 2015 15:50

If the recent horror visited upon Beirut and Paris, as Islamic State/Daesh seeks to broaden its war against civilization, does not succeed in re-focusing the mind of the West when it comes to its role in the Middle East, then nothing will.

READ MORE: Paris massacre: World mourns 120+ killed in series of terrorist attacks

For far too long Western governments and ideologues have performed the modern equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns when it comes to the conflict against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and everything it represents. The nadir in this fiddling came just hours after the suicide bombing of southern Beirut, in which 43 people were killed and over 200 injured, with the public display of triumphalism by British Prime Minister David Cameron in response to the US drone strike which killed British IS executioner, Mohamed Emwazi (aka ‘Jihadi John’), in Syria.

In the mind of the British prime minister the killing of this one man, undertaken without the permission, cooperation, or compliance with the Syrian government, was elevated to the status of a major military achievement and victory. In truth it merely highlighted the absurdity of the West’s refusal to coordinate with those engaged in seriously combatting this medieval death cult, and without whose efforts its black flag would now be flying in every part of Syria and all over the region. In other words, it is Russia, Syria, Iran, the Kurds, both in Syria and Iraq, and the Lebanese resistance organization Hezbollah who are taking the fight to IS and Al-Qaeda. The United States, Britain, France up to now have played a subordinate role at best, while at worst hampering the aforementioned governments and forces in their obstinate refusal to heed the necessity of cooperating and uniting with them.

British national Mohammed Emwazi, also known as 'Jihadi John' © SITE Intel Group Was ’Jihadi John’ on Obama’s kill list?

If not now, hopefully in years to come historians and chroniclers of this conflict will pay due homage to the tenacity and courage of the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and its Hezbollah ally, both of which have held the line on the ground against the forces of hell over a sustained period. This courage was exemplified most emphatically with the recent breaking of the siege of the Kweires airbase in Aleppo province, where Syrian troops had managed to hold out against the jihadists surrounding it. Throughout that time they were supplied with regular airlifts of food, medicines, ammunition and other vital supplies, enabling them to hang on. Their determination in doing so until the siege was finally broken as part of the recent ground offensive mounted by the SAA and its allies, in conjunction with Russian air support, marks just one in a catalogue of heroic actions undertaken by troops whose refusal to break over long years of brutal conflict deserves to be universally acknowledged.

Likewise, Hezbollah has committed thousands of its fighters to Syria, hundreds of whom have been killed with an unknown number wounded. The reasoning behind it entering the conflict is eminently sound. If Syria were to fall then it would only be a matter of time before groups driven by a genocidal hatred of Shia Islam would try to move against them and the Shiite community of Lebanon, leading to Lebanese society being torn asunder.

The SAA and Hezbollah, along with the Kurds of the PKK/YPG, who staged a heroic defense of Kobani on the Turkish border in 2014, along with Iranian volunteers and troops, are the forces on the ground fighting and dying on a daily basis to halt the progress of a medieval death cult, which is intent on turning not only Syria but the entire region into a mass grave.
U.S. Marines in Operation Allen Brook in 1968 © Wikipedia
U.S. Marines in Operation Allen Brook in 1968 © Wikipedia

While historical parallels can never be symmetrical, they can help us place current events in a context befitting their enormity. When it comes to the Syrian conflict we can introduce two such parallels without any fear of contradiction. The first is in characterizing IS/Daesh as a modern incarnation of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in the 1970s, which emerged from similar conditions of chaos and destabilization as Islamic State has done. On that occasion those conditions brought about the extension of the US bombing campaign in Vietnam into Cambodia – known as Operation Menu - beginning in 1969 under the Nixon administration. Declassified documents later revealed that the US was bombing Cambodia even earlier under the previous Johnson administration.

Regardless, the monster that emerged to take over the country in 1975, the Khmer Rouge, embarked on a genocidal campaign of wholesale slaughter, torture, and carnage until they were crushed by the armed forces of the People’s Republic of Vietnam in 1979.

The other discernable parallel when it comes to Syria is with the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s. This is a conflict that also held wider international consequences, involving the major powers as the dark cloud of fascism descended over Europe. While the Nazis, busy arming and preparing for their war against civilization across Europe, used the conflict in Spain as a testing ground for the pilots of a reconstituted and modernized Luftwaffe, along with Mussolini’s Italy deploying men and materiel in support of the Spanish fascist forces led by General Franco, thousands of volunteers from all over Europe and the US arrived to aid the Republican side, fighting to restore the legitimate Spanish government to its rightful place.

As with Syria today, Russia (then the Soviet Union) was the only major power to support Spain’s legitimate government, while Britain, France and the US sat on their hands, following a policy of a plague on both their houses. The result of this hand wringing was to bolster the confidence, strength and determination of Hitler and his fascist allies, which as history records plunged Europe into an abyss of barbarism the likes of which the world had never seen.

Sadly, when it comes to Syria, up to this point the West has failed or refuses to learn the essential lessons of those prior conflicts involving genocidal movements and ideologies. The horror visited on Paris confirms that it can no longer afford to.
If it continues to history will not forgive.

- Obama is in Turkey conferring with Erdogan, the Saudi king and the emir of Qatar. as to how to combat IS. This is a joke! All of these are sponsors of IS and the other Sunni jihadi movements. Senator Lindsey Graham just told Tapper that we (the US) should lead an army of Arabs and THE TURKS into the fight. Of course, Graham is a wholly owned property of Izrul. Whatever mind "he" has in regard to the ME was carefully sculpted by them while writing upon the tabula rasa that was his brain before they began their work. But even "he" should know that Erdogan's Turkey is an ally of IS and will never, never participate in a serious move against IS. Actually, Kemalist Turkey is dead and will probably not be seen again

- At least one (probably three) of the Paris attackers probably entered Europe as part of the migrant flow that passed through Erdogan's Turkey. One man was registered by the Greeks government on Leros and then was again registered in a Croatian refugee shelter. The really operative part of this tale is that this or these people traveled through Turkey unmolested by the Turkish police and security services. I once lived in Turkey and even then these services were ubiquitous and aggressive. So, IMO Erdogan has passed these people through and sent them on their mission. Just look at his face as he walks around at Antalya. That is the cat who has eaten the canary.

* Erdogan's program for a Muslim invasion by inundation of Europe must be ended. Send them back to their home countries

johneeG wrote:Ok, let me ask a noob question: ISIS which is supposedly on the run due to Russian air-strikes goes all the way to Europe and attacks the French!??! Why? What does ISIS gain by this attack? And why attack France?

Oh, btw, another data point: this attack happened just before a G20 meet.