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Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 13:38
by Cyrano
Ambar wrote:The left does not waste time like the conservatives thinking what is acceptable & what is not in political disagreement . Right from the bell with two months to go before the inauguration the threats have began to hunt anyone found supporting Trump.
LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!
Sounds familiar? :rotfl:

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 15:18
by sooraj
HUGE! Corrupted Software Used in Michigan County that Stole 6,000 Votes from Trump — Is Also Used in ALL SWING STATES — PA, GA, NV, MI, WI, AZ, MN!
A so-called computer ‘glitch’ fix in one of Michigan’s counties has led to 6,000 votes switching from Joe Biden to President Trump. The Head of the Republican Party has asked for an additional 47 counties be recounted after the fix since these 47 counties also use the same Dominion software.
Dominion Software is used in 28 US states including ALL OF THE BATTLEGROUND STATES.
The Dominion software “glitch” ONLY took votes from President Trump and Republicans.
Dominion is used in EVERY SWING STATE!

☑️Nevada
☑️Arizona
☑️Minnesota
☑️Michigan
☑️Wisconsin
☑️Georgia
☑️Pennsylvania

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 15:21
by sooraj
The DELIAN Project: Democracy through Technology

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In 2014, Dominion Voting committed to providing emerging and post-conflict democracies with access to voting technology through its philanthropic support to the DELIAN Project, as many emerging democracies suffer from post-electoral violence due to the delay in the publishing of election results. Over the next three years, Dominion Voting will support election technology pilots with donated Automated Voting Machines (AVM), providing an improved electoral process, and therefore safer elections. As a large number of election staff are women, there will be an emphasis on training women, who will be the first to benefit from the skills transfer training and use of AVMs. It is estimated that 100 women will directly benefit from election technology skills training per pilot election.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 15:31
by sooraj
‘The Hammer’ And ‘Scorecard’: Weapons Of Mass (Vote) Manipulation?
In February 2009, the Obama administration commandeered a powerful supercomputer system known as THE HAMMER. THE HAMMER includes an exploit application known as SCORECARD that is capable of hacking into elections and stealing the vote, according to CIA contractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery, who designed and built THE HAMMER.

THE WHISTLEBLOWER TAPES, confidential audio recordings released by U.S. DIstrict Judge G. Murray Snow’s courtroom in November 2015, revealed that SCORECARD was deployed by the Obama team against Florida election computers to steal the 2012 presidential election on behalf of President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.

SCORECARD is now being activated to steal the vote on behalf of Joe Biden once again. Biden utilized THE HAMMER and SCORECARD while running for Vice President in 2012. Votes are again being stolen on Joe Biden’s behalf as he runs for President of the United States in 2020.

This time, SCORECARD is stealing votes in Florida, Georgia, Texas, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, and Arizona, according to Montgomery.

SCORECARD steals elections by tampering with the computers at the transfer points of state election computer systems and outside third party election data vaults as votes are being transferred.

SCORECARD uses a prismatic scoring algorithm that Montgomery created, to achieve the desired results by those that control THE HAMMER and SCORECARD.

In Florida, one of the transfer points is VR Systems Inc, based in Tallahassee.

Software vendor VR Systems operates in eight U.S. states.

The Democrats tested their technology during the Democrat party primaries. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would have won the 2020 nomination. SCORECARD was utilized on behalf of Joe Biden during the 2020 primary against Bernie Sanders. The Democrat primary was stolen from Bernie Sanders.

CIA whistleblower Dennis Montgomery turned over a massive cache of illegally harvested surveillance and election data in August 2015 and December 2015 to the FBI and CIA under two immunity agreements that were granted to Montgomery by Assistant U.S. Attorney Deborah Curtis and FBI General Counsel James Baker.

Montgomery testified regarding SCORECARD and THE HAMMER while under oath and while being videotaped at the FBI’s secure Washington DC Field Office SCIF (Sensive Compartmented Information Facility). If CIA whistleblower Montgomery had lied about anything he would be in prison today for lying to the FBI. Montgomery is not in prison.

Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte invoked the State Secrets Privilege and the Government Protective Act against Montgomery in order to muzzle Montgomery and prevent him from revealing illegal acts that had been committed by the government.

Carlotta Wells, a U.S. DOJ litigator and Assistant Director of the U.S. Department of Justice since the 1990s, told Montgomery that the State Secrets Privilege and Governor Protective Order cannot be invoked by government officials for the purpose of covering up government malfeasance. If covering up government malfeasance is the government’s intention, Wells told Montgomery, the muzzle order is null and void.

The Obama Administration illegally commandeered THE HAMMER and SCORECARD. They moved THE HAMMER to Fort Washington, Maryland on February 3, 2009.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 15:37
by Pratyush
Cyrano wrote:
Ambar wrote:The left does not waste time like the conservatives thinking what is acceptable & what is not in political disagreement . Right from the bell with two months to go before the inauguration the threats have began to hunt anyone found supporting Trump.
LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!
Sounds familiar? :rotfl:
Did this chanting have a real effect. The answer is no.

The problem that people like you don't understand is that right and conservatives have fringe elements. The left is the main stream. The main stream left is talking about making a list of all Trump supporters. They are the ones who are actively cancelling people for social media posts.

In one case the sponsorship of a NASCAR driver was cancelled over something that his father said full 5 years before he was born.

This is not conservatives, this is the left.

It is not the conservatives who have segregated the convocation ceremony at Harvard. It is not conservatives who are trying to divide the Oscars on the basis of race and gender.

So please keep ROFL.

Trump nutty that he was, represented the last best hope to keep the American project going. his increased vote share amongst the minorities is a testament to that. Biden is speaking of keeping the legacy of Obama going. It was Obama's legacy that gave us Trump. It was Obama's legacy that gave people micro aggressions and white privilege. The weaponisation of race and gender.

This is mainstream. Remember. Not fringe. I hope that the democratic party learnt the right lessons but the last smart democratic party president was Bill Clinton. None of the current crop can see beyond the colour of the skin and the stuff that is present between the legs or not.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 16:16
by IndraD
only question > if allegations of election fraud using black op technology has merit, why are Republicans not approaching court? Or is court also gamed? Or is vote theft too sophisticated to be caught?

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 16:26
by Pratyush
IndraD wrote:only question > if allegations of election fraud using black op technology has merit, why are Republicans not approaching court? Or is court also gamed? Or is vote theft too sophisticated to be caught?

No it doesn't. If that was true then Obama would have controlled the Congress all his terms. He did not.

It's a stupid conspiracy theory.

The alleged manipulation of universal mail in ballots in all democratic party ruled states is much more credible allegation. Or the allegation of Trump vote watchers not be able to verify the count in battle ground states.

Or sending the vote counters home for the night and then finding exclusive Biden votes at 4 in the morning in just sufficient numbers to overcome Trump's lead. With no additional Trump votes.

This is a pretty crude election rigging.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 16:34
by IndraD
can't this petty election rigging challenged in court, do Republicans have no insider who could make videos n all?

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 16:35
by Cyrano
I'm no fan of leftists woke attitudes and their cancel culture. I see that the liberalism of these so called liberals disappears instantly when confronted by dissenting voices. I'm well aware of the dangers their identity politics represents. I'm also worried about their green agenda which is a potent mix of some science & lot of fiction.

All that said, the conservatives have lost any moral high ground they may have held by electing a favourite animal of the peesfool people like Trump. You can't simply dismiss the monstrosity that Trump is, by calling him "nutty". He has made compulsive lying, badmouthing, conspiracy theories, irrational rationalisation and delusional behaviour mainstream acceptable and Reps have played along so willingly with this hedious public conduct which reminds me of the kind of moral bankruptcy that made Hitler's rise possible. Republicans need to do some serious introspection & prayaschitt to find their true self and regain their bearings and credibility.

Meanwhile, the woke left will march on, but thats the opportunity the conservatives have given them on an orange platter. Hard luck !!

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 18:48
by Karan M
The woke left partly created the Trump phenomenon with their arrogance regarding the "deplorables" and are anyday a greater danger to India than Trump ever was. He was transactional and left us alone otherwise. The left have been running a Hinduphobic campaign against India for decades now aided and abetted by their peers in India.

Bringing in Hitler is classic Godwins law. As regards peesfool people, whom is this meant to refer to? The Arab world? Now is that jibe even accurate. The Arab world has bought out both Dems and Rs in plenty over the years but the Left is completely in bed with them as well. That is the fact that makes the Democrat establishment such a problem for India as versus the Republicans who despite the evangelical crowd mostly left us alone during Trumps reign. It was a sea change from the constant patronizing, hectoring tone seen during other US admins bar the occasional foot in the mouth snafu from Trump himself about mediation offers or air quality in Delhi or whatever or some random comment from USCIRF which Pompeo et al ignored. We managed his trade deal antics with weapons and energy deals as well. To see the US openly in Indias corner during the Galwan event was also surprising and made a huge difference in how PRC changed its hostile stance to one of studied adherence to the status quo. Pompeo takes a lot of credit for that but Trump let him be.

This is BR. Posters need to analyze the US from the pov of Indian interests. Not get hung up over personal likes and dislikes of Trump as an individual or how hideous he is or was etc. Whose father what goes as long as Indias interests are served. During the Democrat admins we saw rdgime change ops worldwide. The Trump admin mostly stopped all that. His admin also acted as a lightning rod for the worst media attacks. Now with him gone the focus will again move back to India and other countries which faced the creation of relative unknown political parties and media drive attempts to divide and rule. We have to wait and watch. Harris, Jayapal, the QUAD openly wore their anti-India stance on their sleeves.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 19:45
by Avtar Singh
^^^^ INDEED

The fact that Trump was purely “transactional” was the best thing to have happened for India/Hindus in a very long time.

For once India was on the correct side of this transaction and china/ccp/pak were on the wrong side of this transaction. As were the FLICs; Fake Liberals Isalamist Communists.

There is far too much intellectualism in this whole discussion and a fair amount of TDS.
I can only put it down to certain Indians having to follow whatever narrative is set by so called
superior people = gora types.

Rather that thinking long and hard about what is good for India in the real world.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 19:53
by Avtar Singh
Some of you are probably far too young to remember what the Clingtons wrought,
I have even heard of Clington getting a scotus seat. Probably not but that is how things have shifted.
The sundry Foundations will be in full money flow, money flood.
Ccp money awaits and when immigration taps are turned full on, many paks will be waiting entry… See UK.
USA is starting on the road to stanification, similar to uk/europe.
Well done to all you Indians who never cease to amaze in voting against their own and Indias interests.
I know lots of these types in the UK and then they wonder how Londonistan ever happened....

The paks/islamists and commies in usa will be chasing down your arses, squeezing/harassing you
out of everything.

Even in the 1970s my father always told me never burn your bridges and I have always voted
with a weather eye on how Indian may be affected.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 20:08
by Pratyush
The election has not been called till now I hope that Trump can find a way to retain the POTUS position but it looks unlikely.

It will be a huge loss to the free world if Trump is replaced by Biden.

For all his flaws he was good for us.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:06
by darshhan
Karan M wrote:The woke left partly created the Trump phenomenon with their arrogance regarding the "deplorables" and are anyday a greater danger to India than Trump ever was. He was transactional and left us alone otherwise. They have been running a Hinduphobic campaign against India for decades now aided and abetted by their peers in India.

Bringing in Hitler is classic Godwins law. As regards peesfool people, whom is this meant to refer to? The Arab world? Now is that jibe even accurate. The Arab world has bought out both Dems and Rs in plenty over the years but the Left is completely in bed with them as well. That is the fact that makes the Democrat establishment such a problem for India as versus the Republicans who despite the evangelical crowd mostly left us alone during Trumps reign. It was a sea change from the constant patronizing, hectoring tone seen during other US admins bar the occasional foot in the mouth snafu from Trump himself about mediation offers or air quality in Delhi or whatever or some random comment from USCIRF which Pompeo et al ignored. We managed his trade deal antics with weapons and energy deals as well. To see the US openly in Indias corner during the Galwan event was also surprising and made a huge difference in how PRC changed its hostile stance to one of studied adherence to the status quo. Pompeo takes a lot of credit for that but Trump let him be.

This is BR. Posters need to analyze the US from the pov of Indian interests. Not get hung up over personal likes and dislikes of Trump as an individual or how hideous he is or was etc. Whose father what goes as long as Indias interests are served. During the Democrat admins we saw rdgime change ops worldwide. The Trump admin mostly stopped all that. His admin also acted as a lightning rod for the worst media attacks. Now with him gone the focus will again move back to India and other countries which faced the creation of relative unknown political parties and media drive attempts to divide and rule. We have to wait and watch. Harris, Jayapal, the QUAD openly wore their anti-India stance on their sleeves.
High time this is made clear. As the name suggests this is Bharat Rakshak. We are more concerned whether the next US administration is going to resume military aid to Pakistan or not or in which direction US china ties are headed.

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Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:06
by saip
IndraD wrote:only question > if allegations of election fraud using black op technology has merit, why are Republicans not approaching court? Or is court also gamed? Or is vote theft too sophisticated to be caught?
No merit at all to all these allegations. Accusing Georgia, a blood red state controlled by Republicans, of rigging is over the top. AZ too, the gov is a republican. He must hate Trump to rig the election there.
Who is rigging the election? Deep state? It is so deep no one can see it. It rigs for what purpose? How did Trump win in 2016? The deep state favored him? What did he do to anger it this time around?
We are not in Paki land where the ISI can conrol everything. So please relax, get a bucket of pop corn and enjoy the show.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:32
by Y I Patel
Biden has been declared the winner

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:35
by KJo
Y I Patel wrote:Biden has been declared the winner
Not officially, just by MSM like CNN and others.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:38
by vera_k
Seems like the House is on the verge of flipping to GOP as well? If that happens, this is a vote about Trump's style in that case, and things should move smoothly if both House and Senate are with one party.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:43
by saip
KJo wrote:
Y I Patel wrote:Biden has been declared the winner
Not officially, just by MSM like CNN and others.
Official result are NOT due for another month. I think Dec 17th is the deadline for certification. So far ALL results have been declared by Media houses only. I do not think in any state, so far, the secretary of the respective states has certified the results.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:49
by saip
FOX called it too.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 22:55
by saip
vera_k wrote:Seems like the House is on the verge of flipping to GOP as well? If that happens, this is a vote about Trump's style in that case, and things should move smoothly if both House and Senate are with one party.
for that to happen Donkeys need 5 and the elephants need 25. With GA in play the senate stands at 48-48 (50-50 will give Dems control)

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 23:25
by Cyrano
Looks like Dems are getting the President's chair, house and senate.

Biden has a lead in PA of 35K votes with 98% counted. Impossible for Trump to catch. PA alone has 20 Electoral votes taking Biden's tally to 273. Biden is still leading in AZ, NV, and GA by a whisker. Thats why MSM and networks are announcing him winner.

House Dems 208 Reps 196 Target 218 Reps. have gained 8 lost 2 but can't get majority.

Senate Dems 48 Reps 47 : Target 50. Reps. have gained 1 lost 2 and may lose majority.

A massive mandate for Dems, hope they will do good with it.
Time for chintan-baithak for Rep.s, hope they will sincerely introspect and find their soul and get back with some seats won in 2 years. Democracy functions better with an active and responsible opposition.

As for Trump, he will be busy with IRS, court cases and TV shows. Hope he doesn't escape and exile in Russia.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 23:32
by Jay
Pratyush wrote: Did this chanting have a real effect. The answer is no.
Yes, it did. Starting from lock her up, it came down to this

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... -beheading

https://apnews.com/article/michigan-che ... d3593425ff

And you talking about "cancel culture" as if it's done only by the left, how quickly did you forget this

https://www.businessinsider.com/conserv ... ks-2017-11

https://www.investingadvicewatchdog.com ... ycott.html

And not even talking about one of the biggest cancel protest

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/14667440 ... kaepernick

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 23:36
by Jay
IndraD wrote:can't this petty election rigging challenged in court, do Republicans have no insider who could make videos n all?
No one with credibility will challenge this is because it's not true. The fraud percentage is so so low in US elections that Republican establishments have investigated it extensively and their own finding debunk what their politicians say publickly.

https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/en ... oter-fraud

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2 ... the-risks/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN2601GZ

https://www.nytimes.com/article/mail-in ... allot.html

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 00:03
by ramana
Once Court cases are settled will close this thread.

ramana

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 00:08
by Ambar
Chants of "lock her up" in election rallies have no real effect on a public figure especially someone as powerful as Hillary Clinton. It is no different than us on BRF calling for Vadra or Sonia Maino to be locked up, makes zilch of a difference to them. Whereas doxing regular people by creating a DB and go after their employment, livelihood has real, undeniable effect as we saw in India and ME. It is one thing when a bunch of islamists and leftist thugs like Rana Ayyub do it but its different when it encouraged by a congresswoman and implemented by staff of governors and senators.

If we are talking about Steve Bannon's stupid comments on Fauci how about Kathy Griffin beheading Trump ? Which btw she just reposted after her fake apology 4 yrs ago. Yup, reposted again 2 days agp as soon as she found Biden leading.Or Madonna calling for blowing up the whitehouse. Or Rosie O'Donnel talks of stopping Trump or Eminem and Snoop Dogg for calling assassinations..the list is long.

Lawsuits are being filed, MI has now flipped a county back in Trump's favor after saying they had a system glitch which tallied thousands of GoP votes as democrat. A postal worker in Philly has now come in open saying he was contacted by the post master general for an active investigation of backdating ballots in Philadelphia. Also, the supreme court has asked Philadelphia to segregate ballots that arrived after the election day. Georgia secretary of state as announced a recount across the state. People tend to forget how powerful some of the county/city officials are when it comes to elections, it doesnt matter if GA is a red state or PA houses are under GoP, the city officials in Atlanta, Philly, Phoenix , Las Vegas etc wield enormous powers controlling the counting.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 00:35
by saip
MI has now flipped a county back in Trump's favor --- WHICH COUNTY?
A postal worker in Philly has now come in open saying he was contacted by the post master general for an active investigation of backdating ballots in Philadelphia. == I heard it was FBI and now just a postal worker?
Also, the supreme court has asked Philadelphia to segregate ballots that arrived after the election day. --- Sec of state issued orders to that effect and according to officials they are few hundred, not going to make a difference.
Georgia secretary of state as announced a recount across the state. -- That is automatic if the diff is less than 1% and a candidate asks for recount.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 01:08
by Ambar
Antrim County MI has switched back to Trump after a software glitch tallied republican votes towards democrats. Apparently the same glitch may have effected 30 other counties which is being investigated. It is also the same software used in multiple states. Erie PA postal worker's claim that they were asked to back date the ballots is now being investigated by Postal inspectors. GA is not an automatic recount state, and the military votes are yet to be counted which may put the difference within 0.5%. In an election this close, every count matters, above all, controlling large cities matters the most.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 01:22
by saip
How is it possible only the Presidential election is rigged against Trump but NOT against Republicans? NOT A SINGLE congressional seat got flipped by the Democrats. Even the Senate seems poised for dead lock. No blue wave. Trump complained in 2016 about millions of illegal voters against him and even appointed a commission to dig dirt on them. Commission dissolved and not a single illegal voter found. Why do some people on this board peddle republican conspiracy theories?

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 01:23
by Bart S
@DanielGHajjar
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Joe Biden also becomes the first person in history to say “inshallah” and have it actually happen
:rotfl:

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 01:33
by vimal
News cycle:

Kamala is first Black

1. female VP -> and Indian American female VP -> and South Asian female VP -> and Asian women female VP

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 03:11
by Ambar
Biden supporters are celebrating on the streets passing around champagne bottles (no, not 1 bottle per person). These are the same folks who lecture about masks, social distancing etc. are biggest proponents of paper ballots and blame Trump administration for not imposing masks nationwide (although he has no authority to do so!) :roll:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1325169082195324928

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 03:32
by saip
I am opening a bottle of champagne AND a bottle of Royal Salute.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 03:53
by Guddu
Trump can certainly stretch this out and take the shine off Biden's supposed win. The election is won, once it has been certified and any legal issues resolved. The media does not decide that Biden won.

If (big IF) Trump can prove significant irregularities, he will manage to get the electoral votes shifted in his favor. In the final analysis, the electoral votes determine who is the prez.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 03:57
by vijayk
Guddu wrote:Trump can certainly stretch this out and take the shine off Biden's supposed win. The election is won, once it has been certified and any legal issues resolved. The media does not decide that Biden won.

If (big IF) Trump can prove significant irregularities, he will manage to get the electoral votes shifted in his favor. In the final analysis, the electoral votes determine who is the prez.
That's not happening ... Trust me ... No judge will try to do that. If it was one state, may be. But this happened even in Goergia, totally controlled by Republicans

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 04:03
by Guddu
By stretching out his concession speech, Trump will look like a sore loser, but to his supporters Biden's victory will be tainted.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 04:04
by Mort Walker
saip wrote:How is it possible only the Presidential election is rigged against Trump but NOT against Republicans? NOT A SINGLE congressional seat got flipped by the Democrats. Even the Senate seems poised for dead lock. No blue wave. Trump complained in 2016 about millions of illegal voters against him and even appointed a commission to dig dirt on them. Commission dissolved and not a single illegal voter found. Why do some people on this board peddle republican conspiracy theories?
Depends on tabulation and how each state works. The Democratic Party has a long history voter fraud going back many decades. If only there was a central election commission which would set clear guidelines. It is long overdue.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 04:07
by Mort Walker
saip wrote:I am opening a bottle of champagne AND a bottle of Royal Salute.
Please do so when military aid to TSP is reinstated and Indians die.

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 04:13
by KLNMurthy
Cyrano wrote:I'm no fan of leftists woke attitudes and their cancel culture. I see that the liberalism of these so called liberals disappears instantly when confronted by dissenting voices. I'm well aware of the dangers their identity politics represents. I'm also worried about their green agenda which is a potent mix of some science & lot of fiction.

All that said, the conservatives have lost any moral high ground they may have held by electing a favourite animal of the peesfool people like Trump. You can't simply dismiss the monstrosity that Trump is, by calling him "nutty". He has made compulsive lying, badmouthing, conspiracy theories, irrational rationalisation and delusional behaviour mainstream acceptable and Reps have played along so willingly with this hedious public conduct which reminds me of the kind of moral bankruptcy that made Hitler's rise possible. Republicans need to do some serious introspection & prayaschitt to find their true self and regain their bearings and credibility.

Meanwhile, the woke left will march on, but thats the opportunity the conservatives have given them on an orange platter. Hard luck !!
Comparisons are not perfect, but I find that the behavior & intellectual caliber of Trump & his bhakts makes me think of Pappu, Pappini, Antonia, Mani Shankar Aiyer, Diggg Raja etc. same eurotrash / hybrid eurotrash mentality & brainpower, in India’s case mindless DIE worshippers of “not the best Europeans.”

Re: 2020 US election results discussion

Posted: 08 Nov 2020 04:21
by saip
Mort Walker wrote:
saip wrote:I am opening a bottle of champagne AND a bottle of Royal Salute.
Please do so when military aid to TSP is reinstated and Indians die.
OK. Thanks for your advice. I will take it under consideration.