The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 20 Aug 2011 18:36

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/177203/pas ... -anna.html

Karan drowning...lol

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 18:51

Elections can be frequent, say every 3 years, and can also be staggered. But term limits are bad, good people should be allowed to continue provided they keep getting popular support in the frequent elections.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 20 Aug 2011 19:00

nope term limits are good

politics is otherwise the only profession for a vast number ofpeople and they will do anything to survive.

if good people continue on and on they will eventually be corrupted.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 20 Aug 2011 19:12

IndraD wrote:

Prasoon's excellent poem for Anna Hazare-itna kyu sote hai hum

IndraD - What a beautiful rendition. Brought tears to my Mom, who had participated in the freedom struggle and at this age asks me the first thing in the morning the latest on Anna Hazare... Thanks for posting.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Aug 2011 19:14

Religion as a personal matter is a newer development. To me religion was never WHOLLY personal. There are shades of personal nature. More laterz in the off-topic thread on this subject.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Aug 2011 19:21

Pranav wrote:Elections can be frequent, say every 3 years, and can also be staggered. But term limits are bad, good people should be allowed to continue provided they keep getting popular support in the frequent elections.

That is the side-effect, we as a society, have to face. In order to ensure a super-rogue does not continue to be the PM or an MP for ever, sometimes a super-good has to step down too. Also if an individual is mediocre, but good enough to fool people twice, she or he still has to be shown the door. There is not a better system to check the super-bad, bad and mediocre from hijacking or ruining the country. Hopefully the country has plenty of good people, not just 2 or 3 individuals. It also urges the super-good to create other super-good or good individuals. Keep the pipeline lubricated and churning good people

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 19:24

SwamyG wrote: That is the side-effect, we as a society, have to face. In order to ensure a super-rogue does not continue to be the PM or an MP for ever, sometimes a super-good has to step down too. Also if an individual is mediocre, but good enough to fool people twice, she or he still has to be shown the door. There is not a better system to check the super-bad, bad and mediocre from hijacking or ruining the country. Hopefully the country has plenty of good people, not just 2 or 3 individuals. It also urges the super-good to create other super-good or good individuals. Keep the pipeline lubricated and churning good people

See, what you are saying is that you in your wisdom demand that the people must not be allowed to elect somebody more than twice, even if they want him. I just say let the voice of the people prevail via a transparent and verifiable voting system.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Aug 2011 19:25

Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 20 Aug 2011 19:44

I just say let the voice of the people prevail via a transparent and verifiable voting system.

Aha except as you have seen we can debate this aspect if your personal favorite do not make it for eons

no the voice of the people can prevail through another person

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 20 Aug 2011 19:53

Hari Seldon wrote:Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...

If Anna's Jan Lokpal Bill is passed, how does that mean that the naxalites are taking over?

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 20 Aug 2011 20:03

Hari Seldon wrote:Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...

If only the assorted middle class had shown smart enough enthusiasm at the polling booth, they would do not have to walk the streets and holler. But nay, shouting in the streets is lot more fun, than actually choosing right person. With due apologies to Gujju brothers (now now do not be smug

...), who were smart to get the right guy in place and that did more to the development and actual difference to the lives of people, than any bill could hope to achieve.
But gheroing and writing drafts are more sensational.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 20 Aug 2011 20:52

Mehdi,

You must not think beyond any given issue/agitation/action lest you will be labelled as fund-a-mental.

HSji,

Same applies to you too.

SwamyG garu, you need to post the database you compiled on relationships between various political, media and high-level judges etc and update it with the current gen-X personalities. People need to see that a small group of families are owning all the representative aspects of Indian society; the parliament, judicial, election commission and the media-propaganda.

In some other thread Badeji wanted to have a 'scientific' approach to society where the social structure is not birth based. Perhaps he will see what kind of social structure his (sic) secular and scientific leadership forced upon Bharat.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Aug 2011 21:03

The theme of Sonia Gandoos was communal virus the last 2 elections: blame every single problem starting from polluted air to Pakistani terrorism on RSS/BJP and Gujarat riots.

Even today, on NDTV, the INC resident loudmouth, Renuka Chowdary was virtually getting heckled by studio junta ( imagine that happening to INC person in NDTV studio!!

) over some BS reasoning for arresting AH. When the heckling got too much and even other panelists joined in, she pointed at Chandan Mitra ( BJP) and mentioned that Chandan shouldn't talk much on this since he has a party president who has promised a Ram temple in 2014 if voted to power.

Basic logic of INC seems to be : when loosing a argument, bring up "secularism" and evil communal BJP, even if it has no relevance to the topic being discussed.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 20 Aug 2011 21:04

The Maoists are trying to benefit from the movement. They are sneaking in like virus. Anna must take back the movement and kick out all Maoists especially the likes who instead of wearing red, wears saffron and bats for the Maoists.
If this movement anyway gets associated with Maoists the support for it will fall in a day. So the campaigners must ensure that the ones, especially the Maoists who sneak in after the success of Anna's arrest need to be distanced. Else this campaign will be utter failure.
This bill must pass. For long it's the corrupt politicos and the babus who were harassing the people, now with this bill, if the corrupt can be troubled by the people, then it's a welcome step. With this we can even end all isms like Maoisms. It's actually an ideological battle against the Maoists weapon and war to solve problem ideology.
Anna made it clear like he said "kranthi huyi he vishwa me" leking jo kranthi, jo ahimsa se hoga toh hum naya rasta dikayenge vishw ko. or something like that.
This is Gandhian movement. Totally against Maoism. It's against guns, it's against suppressing freedom, be it to speak be it electing leaders, be it having the rights etc. So this movement must win. But keep the Maoists sympathizers away. Their ideas leaking into Anna's campaign will be really bad. Also the only issue raised must be Jan Lokpal bill and nothing else.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Aug 2011 21:05

Also, very interestinggly, on CNN-IBN, when Karan Thappar became overly pro-govt ( was behaving worse than a INC spokesperson), the panelist ( chief editor of Hindi IBN-7 channel, Dont recall his name) mentioned that he has names of all the journos, esp of the English electronic media who are virtually on the INC/GoI payroll and are trying to run down the movement on instructions from above. Karan Thappar immediately switched to another topic..

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 20 Aug 2011 21:09

^ He is behaving in the show as if he is on drugs/alcohol.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 20 Aug 2011 21:30

India didn't have Lokpal bill for all these years. Why it is the most pressing need now? It is funny to think that people all of sudden want a 100% accountability and an 100% "idiot proof" system now. The key is now.
When the heat on the 2G - culprits reaches a crescendo, then magically the focus is shifted to overall corruption to 'reform the system' so there is no or less corruption across the board. That's fine and dandy. But wait a minute, how about prosecuting the known case of corruption to conclusion and provide exemplary punishment for 2G - culprits.
Now now we can't have such focused,, limited, achievable and high impact goals, can we? No we got to be the best and work to get instantaneous 100% idiot proof system to arrest corruption.
Hang Afzal Guru and don't dissipate energy on bringing a draft to conduct narco analysis of every Indian, so a potential terrorist could be arrested. This is called dissipation and dilution of focus with the intent to sabotage actual achievable justice.
That precisely, what is seen to be happening with this Gandhi topi led movement. Forget 2G - culprits, let us go conduct lokpal demonstration. Well, it is fashionable for the jeans kurta and sling bag crowd to feel with the world trend and to believe in keeping up with tahrir square. Can't be left behind.
Has this (jeans kurta sling bag draft writing) crowd realized that they have not made the best use of the existing system, but are "clamoring for 100% idiot proof system".
And the winner is as Mullah Mahendra already called is ...."Raoul Vinci" by design.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 20 Aug 2011 21:57

Hari Seldon wrote:Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...

Misdirection from who (either Congress or BJP) will ultimately benefit from Anna and surrounding Jogiwallas. At present, it is confusing who is rooting for who.

In 2009 I had tough time telling PRP was Congress front. Friends were telling me its leaders were heavily criticizing Congress so it wasn't correct. Congress won and today PRP is officially part of Congress.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 22:22

Surya wrote:
I just say let the voice of the people prevail via a transparent and verifiable voting system.
Aha except as you have seen we can debate this aspect if your personal favorite do not make it for eons

no the voice of the people can prevail through another person

What exactly are you saying and how is it relevant to the point I was making.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 22:23

Hari Seldon wrote:Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...

Let's not rush to conclusions, do you have a direct quote?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 22:34

VinayB wrote: The point about verifiable voting system is valid, potential to hack was demonstrated, and it is being worked on. Latest I saw from a Swamy tweet was SC directing implementing it, EC already had a prototype mock poll. SSwamy is active on it. But saying that is not the same as an election has been tampered with.

GVL was involved on EVM issue. In this blog post he says 'the last two Lok Sabha elections held in 2004 and 2009 have proved all pollsters (including myself) wrong by a wide margin. Voters’ pulse is increasingly becoming difficult to gauge in national elections'

http://www.lensonnews.com/blog/26/4/1/g ... tions.html

more on this might be OT if not already.

Not saying that there is proof of rigging. All we have is a large number of very suspicious incidents. Proof is difficult to come by, because the non-transparent and non-verifiable nature of the system is designed to make proof difficult if not impossible. And a law of nature is that if you have a system that is open to abuse, it will be abused.

As regards the SSwamy tweet, the news is unfortunately not that good. All that has happened is that a High Court Judge has urged the EC to consider using paper ballots in any elections that occur before a paper trail is put in place. It is not binding on the EC.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 20 Aug 2011 22:36

ShyamSP wrote: In 2009 I had tough time telling PRP was Congress front. Friends were telling me its leaders were heavily criticizing Congress so it wasn't correct. Congress won and today PRP is officially part of Congress.

This time it's the BJP that is a Congress front (sections of the central leadership, at any rate).

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 20 Aug 2011 22:50

Hazare to fight for electoral reforms and land acquisition as well

"I want to tell the youth of this country that this fight should not be stopped with Lokpal alone. We have fight for removing the faults of the present electoral reforms. Because of the fault in electoral system, 150 criminals have reached Parliament," Hazare said.

Touching upon the contentious issue of land acquisition, he said there was a need to fight for a proper law regarding this.

"After the fight for Lokpal, we will also have to fight for farmers' rights. Bring a law that ensures permission of gram sabhas before acquiring land of farmers," Hazare said.

Noting that the chain of corruption should be broken, he said, "Government is giving land to the companies which employs labourers and suck their blood. They tell the labourers you ensure production or else you will lost

e job.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/362134/Haza ... usade.html

Vast support from doctors, while lack of toilet and water at Ramlila ground test resolve of protesters
http://www.dailypioneer.com/362136/Lack ... rters.html

The doctors have put their own practise at stake to volunteer at the Maidan.

"The government is not providing proper facilities because it wants the people to leave as soon as possible. Despite this, people won't leave, and we won't rest till the government agrees to Hazare's demands," Amina Khan, a nurse, alleged.

The doctors are also playing a part in ensuring that the crowd doesn't go out of control.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 20 Aug 2011 22:58

Pranav wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:Arvind Kejriwal exposes his and the Anna-movement sponsors' true colors. Says that Naxals have been forced to take up arms. Bhushans too pitch in in support. The fraudster Scami Agnivaste was always a red-rag. Now its out in the open. That buffoon Manish Tiwari was right in calling the movement sponsors overgorund maoists and closet anarchists...sadly, his saying it discredited the idea more than illuminated reality only....

Gandhians with guns indeed. How cute. Tell that to the 100s of securitymen's families killed by the maobadis. Arsoles...
Let's not rush to conclusions, do you have a direct quote?

What he said was, Naxalism came because of corruption. If development was done without corruption, why would people become naxals.

BTW, Aruna Roy female. The white collor Civil Society vs Aam Junta Civil Society?

IMO, Aruna Roy types don't get public support because they treat it as a technicality. Anna Connects to cross section of people.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 20 Aug 2011 23:08

"After the fight for Lokpal, we will also have to fight for farmers' rights. Bring a law that ensures permission of gram sabhas before acquiring land of farmers," Hazare said.

Noting that the chain of corruption should be broken, he said, "Government is giving land to the companies which employs labourers and suck their blood. They tell the labourers you ensure production or else you will loste job.

What the...

This is the problem with all these Ghandians. Is he choosing not to think or is this coming from some lobby. So now farmer has to run from pillar to post before selling land. Some how this is supposed to end corruption.

chackojoseph wrote:What he said was, Naxalism came because of corruption. If development was done without corruption, why would people become naxals.

Thats really weak. So in the 60's to 80's when we had no development there should have been no naxalites right. Naxalites are political thugs trying to get money and power. Development has nothing to do with it.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 20 Aug 2011 23:36

Jarita wrote:Don't get why the churches are so against Anna Hazare. The message has filtered down to the lambs and christians in social media are actively criticizing him

I think they are threatened by modern day Jesus figures, as they are bad for the growth of their business. Plus, its a disaster for INC, as they have been trying to project dynasty members as the Jesus figures to rally around, so there's probably some political direction given to the churches as well.

Check this out as to how Gandhi inspired comparison to Jesus in the British Government -

One thing successive viceroys and prime ministers particularly feared was the popular uprising that would quickly follow if he died on their watch. The viceroy Lord Wavell wrote in his diary in 1944 that if Gandhi were to die in prison, ‘I might go down to the readers of 2000 years hence with the same reputation as Pontius Pilate.’

A new Gandhi shakes India

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Aug 2011 23:54

JwalaMukhi wrote:India didn't have Lokpal bill for all these years. Why it is the most pressing need now? It is funny to think that people all of sudden want a 100% accountability and an 100% "idiot proof" system now. The key is now.
When the heat on the 2G - culprits reaches a crescendo, then magically the focus is shifted to overall corruption to 'reform the system' so there is no or less corruption across the board. That's fine and dandy. But wait a minute, how about prosecuting the known case of corruption to conclusion and provide exemplary punishment for 2G - culprits.
Now now we can't have such focused,, limited, achievable and high impact goals, can we? No we got to be the best and work to get instantaneous 100% idiot proof system to arrest corruption.
Hang Afzal Guru and don't dissipate energy on bringing a draft to conduct narco analysis of every Indian, so a potential terrorist could be arrested. This is called dissipation and dilution of focus with the intent to sabotage actual achievable justice.
That precisely, what is seen to be happening with this Gandhi topi led movement. Forget 2G - culprits, let us go conduct lokpal demonstration. Well, it is fashionable for the jeans kurta and sling bag crowd to feel with the world trend and to believe in keeping up with tahrir square. Can't be left behind.
Has this (jeans kurta sling bag draft writing) crowd realized that they have not made the best use of the existing system, but are "clamoring for 100% idiot proof system".
And the winner is as Mullah Mahendra already called is ...."Raoul Vinci" by design.

I hate to say this but knowing or unknowingly/accidentally or deliberately this entier Anna movement is an anti-national movement to balkanize India. Period. I do not care anymore if someone call my logic as Paki logic. I say again go to hell. This entire thing if successful we won't see India. Period.

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 20 Aug 2011 23:55

jagga wrote: If you can take some time out watch this video (from National ID thread). I am not sure how much truth is behind whatever Vishwa Bandhu Gupta says in this video, decide yourself.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 4#p1148804

I used to think Vishwa Bandhu Gupta is a smart man. But looks like he is not. This video is the proof. If you don't believe me watch this video where he talks about cloud computing and its consequence. That sounded like its coming from a paki analyst.

I know he is not a computer expert but if you are smart you will discuss only those subject in which you have some knowledge other wise you gonna make fool out of yourself.

I am not watching his video any more.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 21 Aug 2011 00:18

Who will be successor of Sonia Gandhi if she is down to the point she is unable to take charge any more?

Her absence is being missed sorely by congressy acc to our news papers and it is likely that if she is away from scene for long it can impact on how to handle the mass uprising

It is being said now that she has advanced bowel cancer (large colon cancer) and the surgery has been offered as temporary measure.

An eminent surgeon has written that

t could be possible that Sonia Gandhi might be getting treatment for Cervix cancer for some time in the form of external beam radiation therapy (EBRT), a treatment of choice in early cervical cancers. Getting a recurrence, even after completion of EBRT treatment in India, could have been a reason for her to fly to the world’s beat cancer hospital for further treatment at such a short notice. The surgery done in such recurrences is called Radical Hysterectomy. Dr Nori’s involvement in this case, despite not being a surgeon, could be in the form of providing High Dose Rate Intra operative Radiation Therapy (HDR-IORT) , of which he is a world renowned expert. This treatment is very effective to treat any residual malignant cell in the surgical field after hysterectomy or if local invasion of surrounding structures like urinary bladder is there.

On Monday acc to Indian news papers Rahul very briefly told people of congress that his mother is much better than before.

The sudden announcement that Sonia Gandhi, had left for America to undergo an operation has highlighted the extraordinary powers she enjoys and brought to the fore the question of her successor-BBC

(sorry for making an OT post)

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Aug 2011 00:51

Muppala garu,

There a two things that are pushed into back ground.

1. The clear and present case - 2G scam (SS agenda) >> would put 2Gs behind bars.
2. The clear case - Swiss accounts (BR agenda) >> would put few thousand RNIs behind bars.

Instead the 'confused' youth are going behind AH's usher 'Satya Yuga' a.k.a Jan Lokpall bill. This will create another layers of tax funded super body, which will put another layer of maya between Bharat and SDRE-EIC. The NAC rats are slowly coming out of their holes.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 21 Aug 2011 01:03

IndraD wrote:Who will be successor of Sonia Gandhi if she is down to the point she is unable to take charge any more?

Her absence is being missed sorely by congressy acc to our news papers and it is likely that if she is away from scene for long it can impact on how to handle the mass uprising

One dummy will be replaced by another. There won't be any Mata effect. If Rahul who personifies Rajiv Gandhi doesn't perform even like a dummy, they may bring real Mata who might personify grand Mata.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 21 Aug 2011 01:17

What if Sonia mata comes back, makes a few token concessions and steals Hazare's thunder

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 21 Aug 2011 02:39

Muppalla wrote: I hate to say this but knowing or unknowingly/accidentally or deliberately this entier Anna movement is an anti-national movement to balkanize India. Period. I do not care anymore if someone call my logic as Paki logic. I say again go to hell. This entire thing if successful we won't see India. Period.

Boss, I ask you sincerely, please explain why you say this. Reason being that I have been following this sporadically due to some pressing professional commitments and I may have missed the nuances. Yes, I do agree vigilanti approach to corruption is not the answer, and yet I am not sure MMS has what it takes to clean up the mess. But you seem to associate a national security angle to what Anna is doing. Please elucidate.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 21 Aug 2011 04:14

Hari garu: There is some truth, however bitter. I am sure you do agree at a high level - when people do not see development and way to improve their lives; then they are going to get emotional. When emotional they can be easily swayed by an individual or group that have good rhetoric or blackmailing power. If things were good, people would not be supporting Anna. Neither would they be supporting Maoists. Is Anna good? Are Maoists bad? Such questions are secondary for the people who see no future for their kids, let alone themselves. Conditions become fertile for nefarious seeds to be sown. So is Arvind a good or bad guy? Dunno.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Aug 2011 04:55

If media reports were to be believed, there are minor differences of opinions between AH and his coterie. So we are going to see a MKG/JLN moment soon, where as JLN makes compromises and AH has to accept them to save his and his team's H&D.

partha · Post by **partha** » 21 Aug 2011 05:23

What if some people now start fast unto death demanding govt version of lok pal bill be passed or demanding no lok pal bill be passed?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 Aug 2011 05:25

Saars,

Making cute excuses or indirect justifications for the bloodthirsty and totalitarian Maobadi cult in any form from any platform is a no-no with me. Period. Sure, we can always find instances, perhaps even a pattern of events wherein the arms of the state have been wilfully apathetic or even actively parasitic w.r.t. the livelihoods, labors and lands of tribal citizenry in resource-rich lands. I'm not here to defend or condone such wickedness. However, to extrapolate that to wink-wink justify targetted, remorseless and ruthless maobadi cruelty on our hapless tribal populace is way beyond the pale. A case exists for studying coldly and rationally the source of maobadi support and the ecosystem that sustains them and then how best to drain the swamp such that ordinary tribal people's lives are least disrupted.

The left-lib lobby, woolly headed at best, anti-Indic always and unwilling/unable to take responsibility for the consequences of their policy prescriptions will ruin India. That's my 2-bit. Am open to changing opinion based on new data coming in but new opinions can only do so much. Have a nice day, all.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 Aug 2011 05:26

partha wrote:What if some people now start fast unto death demanding govt version of lok pal bill be passed or demanding no lok pal bill be passed?

Brilliant idea. I hope the entire NAC sits on a 'fast unto death'. I'll come & stand guard with placards reading 'die 8astud, die!'.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 21 Aug 2011 05:30

Hari garu: Reasons not same-same or equal-equal as Justifications.

partha · Post by **partha** » 21 Aug 2011 05:33

Hari Seldon wrote:
partha wrote:What if some people now start fast unto death demanding govt version of lok pal bill be passed or demanding no lok pal bill be passed?
Brilliant idea. I hope the entire NAC sits on a 'fast unto death'. I'll come & stand guard with placards reading 'die 8astud, die!'.

If NAC starts fast unto death, I too will join you in holding placards. The question is, because Anna Hazare is doing a fast unto death, should a bill be passed without any debate in parliament?