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Pratyush wrote:When RSS can be blamed for 26/11. I am surprised that the Safron Loony fringe is not blamed for more terror attacks by the Sickular Gobermound of the nation.
There was a report in HT today (wont link it, its sick) that a Lashkar organization in Kashmir is being run by a top "Hindu" terrorist, who trained the bomb makers for recent Delhi attacks.

So there, take that you Hindu fundamentalist kaffir, you khaki kinkerwalla so and so....
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It just goes to show the great lengths (or how low they will stoop) that these people will go to keep power. Over the next few weeks, you will see that congress have started an operation to obliterate political enemies/leaders for the next elections.
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sum wrote:Election time yet again and time to pull out saffron terror from cold storage. This time with a twist that muslims actually planted the bombs but under saffron loony guidance:
Were Malegaon blasts executed by hired Muslim youth?
Union Home Minister P Chidambaram recently declared that the National Investigation Agency will not oppose the bail pleas of the nine muslim youths arrested in connection with the 2006 Malegaon blasts. Toral Varia analyses the reasons behind this decision and what are the new leads being explored by the NIA.

Latest investigations into the Malegaon 2006 blasts point to certain leads which suggest that while the blasts may have been the brainchild of a group of right-wing Hindu extremists, its execution was done by hired Muslim boys who apparently did it for the money.

The controversial investigation into the Malegaon 2006 blasts is currently in its fourth round, having passed on from the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad to two different teams of the Central Bureau of Investigation, before finally being handed over to the NIA.

The last two stages of the investigation have been largely based on the primary leads that have emerged out of Naba Kumar Sarkar, aka Swami Aseemanand's confession.

Over the past few months, both the CBI, prior to handing over the investigations to NIA, and the latter have meticulously gone about recording statements of the accused and witnesses connected with the Sunil Joshi murder case in Indore, and the Nanded, Parbhani and Jalna blasts in Maharashtra.
According to the source, it was through the Dakads' interrogation that the CBI could map out an accused Abrar Ahmed Gul Ahmed's travels to various dharamshalas in Indore, Shabri Dham Ashram in Gujarat's Dangs District, and a couple of safe houses in Mumbai. Ahmed is an approver in the 2006 Malegaon case.

"We could establish through witnesses that Abrar had travelled to and stayed in Indore for over a month, but the managements of dharamshalas haven't co-operated much with us," says a CBI officer who was involved with the investigations before it was handed over to the NIA.

During the course of its investigations, the CBI also learnt that Mahesh had procured a library card from an acquaintance in Kolkata. A close scrutiny of the library records revealed that Mahesh Dhakad was undergoing training to impersonate a Muslim.

"We suspect that this was a part of the process to ensure the smooth induction of Muslim youths in their plans."

According to Aseemanand, the real mastermind was Joshi and it was in fact Aseemanand himself who was instrumental in selecting Malegaon as a prime target, as it has sizeable Muslim population.
Now they will say that jews assembled the bombs and buddhists did the recce.The present UPA team can stoop to any level.
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By politicising the NIA, PC has done irrepairable damage to the internal security apparatus. Now no one will beleive them even if they find the real perpetrators.

Case of crying wolf too often.

The sad this is those officers who work for him and come up with such pretzel logic don't have the decency or loyalty to the Constituion which gives them their powers. How can one be loyal to his oath and spread lies to suit the political masters?
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shyamd wrote:It just goes to show the great lengths (or how low they will stoop) that these people will go to keep power. Over the next few weeks, you will see that congress have started an operation to obliterate political enemies/leaders for the next elections.
I expect Jagan, Maya, CBN, Modi, Jaya and lastly Advani as targets. Yeddi is taken care off. The SC and the INC moles inside it helped Amar Singh and also Mulayam though not related.
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Sanku wrote:
Pratyush wrote:When RSS can be blamed for 26/11. I am surprised that the Safron Loony fringe is not blamed for more terror attacks by the Sickular Gobermound of the nation.
There was a report in HT today (wont link it, its sick) that a Lashkar organization in Kashmir is being run by a top "Hindu" terrorist, who trained the bomb makers for recent Delhi attacks.

So there, take that you Hindu fundamentalist kaffir, you khaki kinkerwalla so and so....
Please link it in Mumbai thread. When Mumbai blasts occured I concluded it will happen that way but someone chided me as I am insensitive.
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its execution was done by hired Muslim boys who apparently did it for the money.
This is a pretty well-known p-sec explanation. Ramachandra Guha gave similar logic when Hindus were killed by Muslims in Gujarat in 2002: "It was a business dispute."
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sum wrote:Have to admire the TN police for their efficiency and fast work compared to the central agencies like NIA etc which are struggling to solve even one case ( with more than adequate help from INC/GoI in tying their hands)
In South India, I still feel TN Police are the "go getters" who hunt down the people who they want. And in cases where political pressure is less, they for sure get their man.

The best case I still remember was how they swooped down to Bangalore one fine morning and killed a most wanted Islamic terrorist. This fellow had escaped from police custody in Madurai and was absconding. TN Police got the tip off that he was holed up in a house in Bangalore. TN Police took the help of Bangalore Police in surveillance and sketching the layout of the home and area. The same evening Commandos of TN Police were brought in from Coimbatore. The raid was conducted early in the morning, there was a shoot out and the wanted Jehadi was killed. In the same case the police had recovered an AK 47 from the site.

The Bangalore Commissioner was the master show man H.T Sangliana, and he did try to get some PR mileage out of it. Unfortunately for him it was well known that it was TN police who organised and executed the raid (and they recognised the help provided by the lower rungs in Bangalore police).
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^^ Here is the secret for TN Police. When AIADMK is in power they would book all DMK criminals and when DMK in power they would book AIADMK criminals. Cases run for decades so in the long run all are booked in tens of cases and keep wandering to courts. Almost same goes for Admin. If road encroachment is to be removed you need not guess who would be removed first. Ultimately by the time project is complete all encroachments would be removed. Right now it is DMK clean up time. :D
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Sachin wrote: In South India, I still feel TN Police are the "go getters" who hunt down the people who they want. And in cases where political pressure is less, they for sure get their man.

The best case I still remember was how they swooped down to Bangalore one fine morning and killed a most wanted Islamic terrorist. This fellow had escaped from police custody in Madurai and was absconding. TN Police got the tip off that he was holed up in a house in Bangalore. TN Police took the help of Bangalore Police in surveillance and sketching the layout of the home and area. The same evening Commandos of TN Police were brought in from Coimbatore. The raid was conducted early in the morning, there was a shoot out and the wanted Jehadi was killed. In the same case the police had recovered an AK 47 from the site.

The Bangalore Commissioner was the master show man H.T Sangliana, and he did try to get some PR mileage out of it. Unfortunately for him it was well known that it was TN police who organised and executed the raid (and they recognised the help provided by the lower rungs in Bangalore police).
I think you are referring to 'Imam ali' who was involved in the coimbatore blasts? I still remember flying out of Coimbatore airport seeing his wanted posters - they had pictures of him in various appearances. I remember reading the news of his shoot out later.

TN police are pretty efficient. But it depends where you go - Madurai side is a pain in the back side, all sorts of crime, caste problems, mix of political backed gangs.

One of my uncles in the police tells me how tough the guys at the top are, they will break B@lls if a crime takes place - you will get shouted at! Police officers have it tough in these mid size cities/towns, most nights they work till late and have to sleep on a chair or somewhere in the police station - don't go home sometimes. Under immense stress. He prefers smaller towns/village side - less work, crime, can actually go home and spend time with family. I enjoy chatting about how they catch criminals - police disguise themselves as beggars and all sorts to catch criminals.

TN Police Q branch is very good too.

The former Coimbatore Police Commissioner Sylender Babu is pretty famous in TN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Sylendra_Babu
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DMK were involved in wholesale take over of property/land of people with little or no influence. AIADMK are corrupt but I doubt they get involved in these sort of scams, and to the level that DMK was going to.
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The best case I still remember was how they swooped down to Bangalore one fine morning and killed a most wanted Islamic terrorist. This fellow had escaped from police custody in Madurai and was absconding. TN Police got the tip off that he was holed up in a house in Bangalore. TN Police took the help of Bangalore Police in surveillance and sketching the layout of the home and area. The same evening Commandos of TN Police were brought in from Coimbatore. The raid was conducted early in the morning, there was a shoot out and the wanted Jehadi was killed. In the same case the police had recovered an AK 47 from the site.
Sachin-saar,
Think you are talking of Imam Ali ( who prominently figures in the article i had quoted) and whose chelas have been arrested for the Advani bomb placing.

Edit: Seems ShyamD already beat me to it.
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security my foot: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/get-o ... l/871392/0
Not-so-secure NSA
The absence of proper security safeguards in computer systems at the top levels of the government is borne out by the fact that email IDs in the PMO, the National Security Council secretariat and the Foreign Ministry were hacked at some point. Now, there is fresh embarrassment for the government. The private e mail address of the National Security Adviser, Shivshankar Menon, has been hacked and the hacker has sent strange messages to many on the A-list of Menon’s address book from a fake Menon address.
:rotfl:

While at it, also read section on: Insulated from the drip
check the name of owners & the cost of penthouse in Aralias can bee seen at 99acres.com
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This is the kind of non-sense one has to endure if people are given undue importance:
Bhatt seeks more security, bulletproof car
Suspended IPS officer Sanjiv Bhatt wrote a letter to the state Home Department on Sunday requesting the government to appoint a nodal officer to co-ordinate security arrangements for him. Bhatt has also sought a bulletproof car and more personnel for his security.

In the letter, Bhatt said he and his wife, Shweta, would require to travel outside the city for court matters and other important issues, for which he needs an appropriate escort vehicle as the government has withdrawn his official vehicle. “The present strength of two guards are not efficient to deal with emergency situations,” he wrote.

Pointing out that Chief Minister Narendra Modi has supporters and fans outside too, and right wing fundamentalists are not limited only to Gujarat, he said the department must refrain from taking decisions that would jeopardise his security and safety of his family.
Surprised that he didn't demand a bungalow for keeping all his files and a OSD to ensure that his workload is distributed!!

Would any other IPS officer in any other state dare to demand such things directly from his CM?
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sum wrote:
The best case I still remember was how they swooped down to Bangalore one fine morning and killed a most wanted Islamic terrorist. This fellow had escaped from police custody in Madurai and was absconding. TN Police got the tip off that he was holed up in a house in Bangalore. TN Police took the help of Bangalore Police in surveillance and sketching the layout of the home and area. The same evening Commandos of TN Police were brought in from Coimbatore. The raid was conducted early in the morning, there was a shoot out and the wanted Jehadi was killed. In the same case the police had recovered an AK 47 from the site.
Sachin-saar,
Think you are talking of Imam Ali ( who prominently figures in the article i had quoted) and whose chelas have been arrested for the Advani bomb placing.
More drama was to follow after Imam Ali's body was taken back to his native place. The TN police were asked not to come the area as tension was running high. However, the TN Police laid down tough conditions on how the funeral was to be conducted and ensured that things went peacefully and quickly. Imam Ali's case itself is very intriguing. His original crime was planting a bomb in RSS office in Chennai which killed several people. He escaped when being moved by an armed escort after attending a court session when it was attacked by his terrorist friends. He escaped to Bengaluru where the TN Police eliminated him. Imam Ali and a few others were ISI trainees.
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^^
Fakruddin, son of a retired police constable, was involved in a blast case at Ovamalai in the district in 2002, in which Imam Ali was arrested. He had helped Ali to escape when he was being taken to Palayamkottai prison.
Same guy who helped him escape is now the suspect.

Ali seems to have the distinction of the first South Indian to be trained by HuM and was handpicked by ISI for this honour.
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Terrorist cells operate out of Kerala jails
The State government has written to the Union Home Ministry seeking a probe by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) into the international calls that were found to have originated from 120 mobile phones seized from prisoners housed in various jails in the State.

In his report submitted to Chief Minister Oommen Chandy after the raids, Mr. Jaocb {Additional Director-General of Police (ADGP), Prisons,} said that around 3,000 to 3,500 calls from 120 mobile phones were made since October, 2010. Many calls were made to 16-digit and 18-digit numbers. The calls were made to foreign countries, including Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Somalia among others.

“The new revelations lead to the suspicion that terrorist outfits have even spread their tentacles to the jails,” Mr. Jacob said in his report. A preliminary examination by Cyber Cell of the Kerala Police on 30 phones that were seized had revealed that a total of 3,000 calls were made and some of them were made to foreign countries using satellite and other new technology.

Majority of the mobile phones seized were from the Central Jail, Kannur, sources said.

Although jammers were installed in prisons by the Left Democratic Front government at a cost of Rs.38 lakh, these were immobilised by the inmates by putting salt into them.

Each prisoner was eligible for three grams of salt a meal. This was reportedly kept aside and once the total quantity reached 300 gm, it was put in the jammers to deactivate them.
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Snatchers’ lie nailed in special interrogation room of police
A specialised interrogation room inside certain police stations known as ‘lie detector’ led to the arrest of three people for staging a snatching case and misusing foreign currency worth more than Rs 40 lacs. Police arrested Gurdeep Singh (32), Rohit Kumar (25), both residents of Tilak Nagar and Gaurav Siwadh (25) on Saturday in this connection. All of them worked with Western Union Money Transfer, officials said Sunday.

The incident was reported on October 31, when they told police that a money bag had been snatched from them by some persons on motorcycle, officials said.

Additional Commissioner of Police, West District, V Renganthan said, “We received a call regarding the snatching of the bag containing huge amount of Indian and foreign currency in Tilak Nagar. Rohit, initially said that when he and his colleague Gaurav were going with the days’ collection to their boss’ house at 9 pm, two persons on a motorbike snatched the bag and fled.” A case of snatching and theft was registered based on their statement, he added.

Police suspected both employees of staging the snatching as there were variations in their version of the robbery. To check if the incident was staged, both were made to narrate the incident separately, the official said.

As there were discrepancies in their statement, both of them were taken to an interrogation room known in police circles as ‘lie detector’ in Tilak Nagar police station.

“The duo was taken to the interrogation room where hidden cameras have been installed. We have made it specially for such purposes, where it is difficult to get information from suspects. They were interrogated and then deliberately left alone in the room and were closely observed. Thinking they were alone, the two started discussing freely about the distribution of the money in case police let go of them,” he said.
Obviously Gurdeep Singh and Rohit Kumar hadn't seen too many Hollywood movies to know about these kinds of 2 way mirror/camera equipped interrogation rooms!

So, have the police done away with "2nd/3rd degree" methods( usually reserved for the low fry criminals like the ones above) to have to rely on these sort of things?
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chaanakya wrote:Right now it is DMK clean up time.
And if I am not mistaken there is also a clear cut identification based on the loyalties of the senior IAS and IPS officers. When a new regime ;) takes charge, the officers not in their good books are transferred out immediately. I feel Amma has already initiated one round of clean up. Officers earlier commanding police sub-divisions/divisions in Chennai Police now find themselves commandants of camps housing Sri Lankan Tamils etc. :P.
shyamd wrote:The former Coimbatore Police Commissioner Sylender Babu is pretty famous in TN.
During his time there was an encounter in which two murderes were killed. They were found to have murdered a small girl and boy, who one of them used to ferry to school every day. One of the accused was the school van driver. They were taken to the spot at an odd time in the night saying that people may lynch them. Then they tried to escape after snatching a rifle from a police man, and a shoot out happened.
sum wrote:Think you are talking of Imam Ali
Yes. That was the case.
SSridhar wrote:Although jammers were installed in prisons by the Left Democratic Front government at a cost of Rs.38 lakh, these were immobilised by the inmates by putting salt into them.
There was also allegations that some of the jail wardens are hand in glove with the prisoners.

http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/story.php?id=116345
sum wrote:So, have the police done away with "2nd/3rd degree" methods( usually reserved for the low fry criminals like the ones above) to have to rely on these sort of things?
The trick of separating out two suspects and finding holes in their story is an old trick of the police. They dont need to have any special rooms for that. The "special rooms" seems to be still in place. I remember watching a programe in TV, which talked about such interrogation centres.
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Sachin wrote:
chaanakya wrote:Right now it is DMK clean up time.
And if I am not mistaken there is also a clear cut identification based on the loyalties of the senior IAS and IPS officers. When a new regime ;) takes charge, the officers not in their good books are transferred out immediately. I feel Amma has already initiated one round of clean up. Officers earlier commanding police sub-divisions/divisions in Chennai Police now find themselves commandants of camps housing Sri Lankan Tamils etc. :P.
With DMK it was rampant. But surprisingly I see Amma more balanced and has taken neutral officers in key posts, some of whom I know personally.I think She has learnt her lessons. Amma doesn't have much of North officers and south officers bias. But Administration has it both ways and able to do better job despite changing regime.
That would be Jaffer Sait , and he has history of aligning too closely with DMK.
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Sachin wrote:
shyamd wrote:The former Coimbatore Police Commissioner Sylender Babu is pretty famous in TN.
During his time there was an encounter in which two murderes were killed.
Yes, Sylendra Babu is famous. Vijayakumar was famous too. When I was much younger, there was W.I. Davaram, who crushed the then Maoists. He would lead the team from the front as Sylendra Babu & Vijayakumar do. There have been other exemplary officers who became IG of TN Police and who inspired awe as well, like Late F.V. Arul who became CBI Director and then went on to head Interpol (if I remember correctly) and Late Stracey, the only Anglo-Indian to reach that level. Among these, Sylendra Babu, Walter Davaram and Arul come from southern districts of TN (south of Madurai).
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SSridhar wrote:
Yes, Sylendra Babu is famous. Vijayakumar was famous too. When I was much younger, there was W.I. Davaram, who crushed the then Maoists. He would lead the team from the front as Sylendra Babu & Vijayakumar do. There have been other exemplary officers who became IG of TN Police and who inspired awe as well, like Late F.V. Arul who became CBI Director and then went on to head Interpol (if I remember correctly) and Late Stracey, the only Anglo-Indian to reach that level. Among these, Sylendra Babu, Walter Davaram and Arul come from southern districts of TN (south of Madurai).
Thiru Davaram is Icon. He was STF. His mustache was quite intimidating. Vijayakumar followed him in his footsteps and finished the unfinished agenda of finishing Veerappan.
Vijayakumar was director of Academy and now heads CRPF.
I think TN police is one of the best in the country sometimes better than overrated Mumbai police.
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Last weekend a jewellery store in Surat was looted. Damage about Rs 6.5 crores. A gang of 20 were involved. :( :eek:

Looks odd. Most likely could be a Paki connection to fund their ops.

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SURAT: The biggest-ever loot in Gujarat's criminal history - the heist of jewellery worth Rs 6 crore from a store in Kosamba - was not just the work of a tribal gang from Jhabua. After the arrest of four persons, including three women, the Surat police are seeing more sinister designs and claim that the loot was planned by a Pakistani with ISI links, Mohammed Salim Ahmed Shaikh alias Salim Malay, who has been living in India since early 1990s.

Police also suspect a hawala angle in the case, as the very next morning of the heist Malay made several international calls, many of them to Pakistan. Police said Malay planned the loot and a gang of tribals from Jhabua executed it.

Police said Malay may have come in contact with the tribal gang when he was arrested from Kutch in 2007 for providing shelter to two ISI agents and circulating fake currency worth Rs 30 lakh. He was released from the jail in 2009 as no charges against him were proved in the court. :( Malay,who is absconding, and the gang had made plans to loot KM Choksi Jewellers Pvt Ltd at Kosamba in the jail itself. They finalised the plan early this month.

Police have so far recovered 1.3 kg gold worth Rs 25 lakh and Rs 14.97 lakh cash from the gang. Among the arrested is Ashok Sakarchand Jain, 42, a jewellery maker from Mumbai. Jain, who belongs to Pali in Rajasthan, is held for purchasing the looted jewellery.

The arrested women have been identified as Parvinbibi Ayyub Pathan, 55, her daughter Pinki, 29, both residents of Hathikhana, Patel Falia in Vadodara, and Salmabibi Shaikh, 41, a resident of Imamvada in Mumbai. Police said Salmabibi is Malay's wife and he had a relationship with Parvinbibi. :eek:

"We came to know that some of the looted jewellery was purchased by Jain," said K S Bhati, superintendent of police, Surat. Police believe some of the gang members may have left their share of the booty with the women and Jain. Though none of the tribal gang members has been arrested so far, police say around 30 of them have been identified. "Our teams are camping in Jhabua and a massive search operation is on. We are, however, still to trace them," said Bhati. Around 30 kg gold jewellery and Rs 25 lakh cash were looted from the showroom on Saturday evening.
I recall a Bollywood movie like this with an urban mullah type guy leading a gang.
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Pakistani attempts at terror in Punjab
The last bomb blast in the state occurred at the Shingar cinema hall in Ludhiana in 2007 in which seven people died and about 20 were wounded. After that, although attempts were made to cause similar blasts at Nabha, Pathankot and Jalandhar bus stand, but they were detected and defused in the nick of time. Over the last three years, nearly 100 activists have been arrested in Punjab for anti-national activities but just 10 of them were hard-core terrorists.

“People have rejected the concept of Khalistan. It is no longer an issue in Punjab. It has neither religious nor community support. In the past 15 years, successive governments have quelled attempts for the revival of militancy. In the recent Shiromani Gurudwara Prabhandhak Committee poll results, Sikhs rejected Simranjit Singh Mann, his son and other hardliners,” said a senior Shiromani Akali Dal leader.

The narco factor
Owing to its proximity to the Golden Crescent (Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran), 45 % of the drugs that transit through India are smuggled through Punjab. Pakistan-based militant outfits are pushing in weapons along with the drugs from across the border. No wonder the state saw the highest number, 5508, of Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act (NDPS) cases in 2010.
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Wish we still had the Malegoan train blasts thread:

bail refused for Lt. Col Purohit
The Bombay High Court today rejected the bail plea of 2008 Malegaon blast accused Lt Colonel Prasad Shrikant Purohit but allowed liberty to co-accused Ajay Rahirkar on certain conditions.

"Lt Colonel Purohit was not just involved in talking about Hindu rashtra, but is alleged to have been instrumental in making RDX available," the judge observed while rejecting his bail.

"Reliability of evidence about his bragging to a witness that he had RDX in his possession and the evidence about finding of RDX on a cotton swab would have to be decided at trial. Therefore, he would not be entitled to bail," observed Justice RC Chavan.

"As far as Ajay Rahirkar is concerned, firstly, there is nothing in the conversation to show his involvement. Secondly, all that he could be said to have done is financing purchase of some arms and not any material used in the blasts at the instance of Purohit from the funds of a trust. Hence, Rahirkar would be entitled to bail," the judge held.

Rahirkar was ordered to be released on bail on his furnishing a personal bond of Rs 1 lakh with one or more solvent sureties in the same amount.

The judge asked Rahirkar to scrupulously keep himself away from all witnesses and report at the office of National Investigating Agency or its representative in Mumbai once a month on a convenient date to be fixed by the trial court till the case is over.

Nisar Ahmed Haji Sayed Bilal, a Malegaon resident, had intervened in the matter and opposed the bail plea of both the accused.

Defence lawyer Srikant Shivade argued that there was no direct evidence against the accused and hence they were entitled to bail.


Prosecutor Rohini Salian argued that since conspiracy was hatched in secrecy, such titbit's of information as could be gathered from deliberations at meetings of conspirators, evidence about their movement and association with material or articles used in the blast, traced backwards from seizure of two wheeler which was found to have been used, could lead to the inference of applicants involvement in conspiracy.

However, the judge felt that this would have to be tested at trial.

Purohit's counsel submitted that the accused was an army officer involved in anti-terror operations and was working for Military Intelligence. He produced some material to support such a contention.

Relying on a Supreme Court judgement, the defence counsel argued that it would not be proper to implicate a person merely because of his communication with a person involved in the offence.

He urged the court to consider that Purohit was a serving army officer with a good record in jail for the last three years. Hence, he should be given bail.

Purohit and Rahirkar were arrested and issued charge sheet in connection with the Malegaon bomb blast that occurred on September 29, 2008 and in which seven persons were killed.

Co-accused include sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur, Sudhakar Dhar Dwivedi alias Shankaracharya and Rakesh Dhawade.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 670235.cms
Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi on Wednesday belied speculation that he would give up the BJP's nationalistic stance for the sake of Chinese investments. He raised a few controversial issues including the one about the presence of Chinese troops in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir during his talks with Communist Party leaders in Beijing.

"I told them - whatever your intentions, Pakistan is making use of you," Modi said after his meeting with three Chinese leaders including Wang Gang, a politburo member of the Communist Party of China and vice-chairman of the China People's Consultative Conference. There is a lot of concern over Chinese troop presence in PoK in India, and particularly in Gujarat as it was a border state, he told them.
This man does not disappoint India like the crooked, anti-national DIEnasty and their servants.
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Have yet to see MMS or Pranab or Chidambaram saying anything like that. they are the government, and they don't have any balls. the less said about Rajmata and amul baba, the better
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No, they believe in doing and not talking. Aren't they giving out juicy bits of info about how India is arming itself on the "eastern" frontier to tackle the "red China" menace?
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vijayk wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 670235.cms
Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi on Wednesday belied speculation that he would give up the BJP's nationalistic stance for the sake of Chinese investments. He raised a few controversial issues including the one about the presence of Chinese troops in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir during his talks with Communist Party leaders in Beijing.

"I told them - whatever your intentions, Pakistan is making use of you," Modi said after his meeting with three Chinese leaders including Wang Gang, a politburo member of the Communist Party of China and vice-chairman of the China People's Consultative Conference. There is a lot of concern over Chinese troop presence in PoK in India, and particularly in Gujarat as it was a border state, he told them.
Although admirable, the statement itself is fundamentally flawed. China is using Pakistan and not the other way around. I hope this was deliberate and doesn`t reflect a wrong understanding of the Paki Chini nexus.
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I have a question on AFSPA.

Is it correct that apart from the army, CPMFs are also included under its purview while CPOs are not? So this would mean that CRPF is excluded from AFSPA while BSF or Assam Rifles are not?

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First whiff of justice for Gujarat riot victims
A special court here on Wednesday sentenced 31 persons to life imprisonment and fined them Rs.50,000 each for burning 33 Muslims alive at Sardarpura in Mehsana district during the 2002 communal riots in Gujarat.

Special court judge S.C. Srivastava, who is the Principal District and Sessions Judge of Mehsana, however, acquitted 42 other accused, 11 of them for lack of evidence and the remaining 31 got the benefit of the doubt. The 31 accused have been asked to submit a solvency bond of Rs.25,000 each and not to leave the country without the court's permission.

Legal experts said the verdict created history as it was the first case in which a large number of people were convicted for mob violence. It broke the record of the Bhagalpur riots case, in which 14 persons were convicted.

The court did not accept the prosecution's charge of criminal conspiracy under Section 120 (B) of the Indian Penal Code, which could have attracted the capital punishment, against any of the accused and concluded that the incident took place on the spur of the moment, on the night of March 1, 2002, two days after the February 27 Godhra train carnage.

Of the 76 accused in the Sardarpura massacre, two died during trial. One male was found juvenile, and the case against him is going on in the juvenile court.

The case was prosecuted by a Special Investigation Team, headed by a former director of the CBI. The Supreme Court, which received complaints that the Gujarat police were shielding the rioters, asked the SIT to probe nine incidents of mass violence and get the High Court to set up special courts to try the cases. The 31 convicted have been charged with murder, attempt to murder, rioting and other offences under the IPC, while the charges of criminal conspiracy against them were dropped by the court. Among the IPC Sections applied included 302 (murder) read with other Sections , attracting punishment from one month to 10 years of imprisonment, all to run concurrently.

Among the 31 convicts were 30 from the Patel community and one ‘Prajapati,' one of the “other backward communities.” They included the then sarpanch of the Sardarpura village, Katrabhai Tribhuvandas Patel, and a former sarpanch Kanubhai Joitaram Patel.
Interesting headline indicating that if the case had collapsed, it was injustice...

Also, even more interesting is that DDM didnt bother to have the bleeding heart interviews with the relatives of the 42 acquitted about how they had been unfairly accused for all these years and would like a apology from the govt. This seems to be the SOP when any local IM type terrorist is caught/gunned down where DDM will definitely print his relative's side of the story and try to paint him as a normal guy who turned violent due to evil RSS/Hindus etc. Guess all that is just a one-way street.
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Three injured in Kolar group clash
Tension prevailed in the city on Wednesday following protests and a procession by pro-Hindu groups, after meat was allegedly found at a temple at Ammavaripet.

Members of a particular community started pelting stones during the procession and police resorted to lathicharge to bring the situation under control.

Three people, including two police constables, were reported injured.

It was a virtual bundh in the city following the incident and prohibitory orders have been clamped. Pieces of meat were found in the temple premises at 6.15 am, which triggered the protests.

Hundreds of members of pro-Hindu organisations gathered at the spot.They held miscreants belonging to a particular community responsible for desecrating the temple. They refused to leave the spot till action was taken against the suspects. They did not allow the police to remove the pieces of meat from the temple premises.

Deputy Commissioner (DC) Manoj Kumar Meena and Superintendent of Police (SP) Dr K Tyagarajan rushed to the spot.Talks between them and the protesters failed to break the deadlock.

DC at it again

Police resorted to a mild lathicharge to disperse the mob. The DC snatched the stick bearing the flag from one of the protesters and used it to discipline the crowd. The tension eased after pieces of meat were forcibly moved out of the temple premises.


Workers of a number of organisations took out a protest march from Gandhivana through the main thoroughfares of the city.

The protestors forced shopkeepers to down their shutters and prevented buses from plying from the New Bus Stand Circle.

As the procession approached the Clock Tower Circle, the DC and the SP stopped the protestors from reaching there. This resulted in heated arguments and the protestors managed to reach the Circle.

Meanwhile, members of a particular community started pelting stones from the other side.


Three people, including two constables, were injured in the incident.Police caned the clashing groups to ease the situation. Tension prevailed for about 10 minutes.
Seems to be a deliberate attempt to create trouble like the pig carcass being found in a mosque few months back in B'luru.

As usual, the reporting is very secular since the "pro-hindu" groups find repeated mention but the persons throwing stones at the procession and igniting the situation further remain from "some community"
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sum wrote:Three injured in Kolar group clash
Tension prevailed in the city on Wednesday following protests and a procession by pro-Hindu groups, after meat was allegedly found at a temple at Ammavaripet.

Members of a particular community started pelting stones during the procession and police resorted to lathicharge to bring the situation under control.

Three people, including two police constables, were reported injured.

It was a virtual bundh in the city following the incident and prohibitory orders have been clamped. Pieces of meat were found in the temple premises at 6.15 am, which triggered the protests.

Hundreds of members of pro-Hindu organisations gathered at the spot.They held miscreants belonging to a particular community responsible for desecrating the temple. They refused to leave the spot till action was taken against the suspects. They did not allow the police to remove the pieces of meat from the temple premises.

Deputy Commissioner (DC) Manoj Kumar Meena and Superintendent of Police (SP) Dr K Tyagarajan rushed to the spot.Talks between them and the protesters failed to break the deadlock.

DC at it again

Police resorted to a mild lathicharge to disperse the mob. The DC snatched the stick bearing the flag from one of the protesters and used it to discipline the crowd. The tension eased after pieces of meat were forcibly moved out of the temple premises.


Workers of a number of organisations took out a protest march from Gandhivana through the main thoroughfares of the city.

The protestors forced shopkeepers to down their shutters and prevented buses from plying from the New Bus Stand Circle.

As the procession approached the Clock Tower Circle, the DC and the SP stopped the protestors from reaching there. This resulted in heated arguments and the protestors managed to reach the Circle.

Meanwhile, members of a particular community started pelting stones from the other side.


Three people, including two constables, were injured in the incident.Police caned the clashing groups to ease the situation. Tension prevailed for about 10 minutes.
Seems to be a deliberate attempt to create trouble like the pig carcass being found in a mosque few months back in B'luru.

As usual, the reporting is very secular since the "pro-hindu" groups find repeated mention but the persons throwing stones at the procession and igniting the situation further remain from "some community"
Looking at communal tensions from a pure INC point of view before UP elections, it can be tried in Karnataka, Uttarakhand , Chattisgrah, MP and Orissa type of states, since like Gujarat, the loss of parliamentary seats will be just 4 or 5, since INC can neverwin more 5-10 seats in these states. If it happens in UP, Maharastra, Kerala or WB, the polarization would lose 20+ seats.

In such confrontations INC comes as the saviour of minorities and hence on the national level minorities vote on mass for INC. This happenned post Godhra and Post Kandhamal.
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This person was a judge who was looked upon for impartial judgements? :eek: :eek:

Churches still under attack in Karnataka
Justice M F Saldanha, former judge in the Bombay and Karnataka high courts, kicked a storm when he stated that attacks on churches in Karnataka should be treated as terrorist strikes.

The Karnataka government claims that the situation is under control, but the fact remains that three more churches were attacked only last month.

Justice Saldanha, who had prepared a detailed paper on the church attacks in the state recently, says in this interview with rediff.com's Vicky Nanjappa that if religious fanaticism in Afghanistan was being treated as an act of terror, then he does not see any reason why attacks on churches should not come under the same purview.



Have the attacks on churches in Karnataka stopped?


Absolutely not! It continues to be a threat. Even last month, three churches in the Mangalore belt were attacked by miscreants.

How do you think the state government (pre and post Yeddyurappa) is dealing with the issue?

I really would not blame B S Yeddyurappa (former chief minister) for the entire episode. It was his then home minister, Dr V S Acharya who is to be blamed. Acharya, being a pracharak (teacher) was answerable to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and this is what led to the situation turning worse in these areas. All that Yeddyurappa did was support Acharya.
Is there a change in the manner the Christians in Karnataka feel today after all these incidents?

That is my biggest worry. Do you really think the Christians will not fight back if they are terrorised this way every now and then? What do we gain at the end of it? Reaction and counter reaction. :shock: :shock: It will be absolute chaos; this is very bad in the larger interest of the state. Safety of a community being threatened is secondary, but the repercussions are what we must worry about.
Has the Christian community started looking to the international community for help?

No they have not. Discussing the issue abroad does not mean they are looking for help. If the state government fails then they always have the Union government to look up to.


Questions have been raised about your discussions of this issue with the international community.

I was not in the UK and France to discuss this matter. I was there to deliver a lecture. If the people there come and express their concern, it is not my fault. The report I have prepared is treated as authentic text and this is what people want to know about.
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http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 111110.htm

Church support to Koodankulam N-plant protests raises eyebrows

Regardless of what one's views on nuclear energy might be, this modus operandi must be carefully watched and analyzed independently.
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Simply Incredible India!!!. Expect Sickulars go riot on this.
Dawood wants to be buried in Mumbai

New Delhi, Nov 10: After unleashing a reign of terror through his international crime syndicate and evading justice for decades, underworld don Dawood Ibrahim is now realising his Indian roots.

As per a report, Thursday, Dawood is critically ill – he had two massive heart attacks in the past two years - feels that his days are numbered; as a result, the 56-year old Karachi-based don’s health condition is being monitored 24X7 by a team of doctors and his family members.

However, as per the report, Dawood is already busy planning his end. He has instructed his men to find a suitable place for his burial in Mumbai or in his native town Khed in Ratnagiri district, close to the western metropolis.

Mumbai Crime Branch is also aware of the don’s desire to be buried in India. Himanshu Rai, chief of the Crime Branch, has been quoted as saying: “We have received credible inputs regarding this.

http://m.zeenews.com/story.aspx?aid=31597
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aditya wrote:I have a question on AFSPA.

Is it correct that apart from the army, CPMFs are also included under its purview while CPOs are not? So this would mean that CRPF is excluded from AFSPA while BSF or Assam Rifles are not?

Thanks.
Adarniya Gurus, no vidya being shared on above prashna?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 668586.cms
Sources said that Army generals and BSF officers apprised the chief minister about the implications of the withdrawal of the Act from certain areas. However, the CRPF and the state police chief Kuldeep Khoda endorsed chief minister Omar Abdullah's view. The two vociferously advocated the removal of AFSPA from some areas of the state in the wake of improved security situation.
This would tend to confirm my hypothesis. So in any part of the country, Army, BSF, Assam Rifles would require AFSPA cover in order to operate, whereas CRPF would not?
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What the The Hinud is against Gadkari is very serious.

No candles for Yogita Thakre
Using RTI, family sees cover-up in death of child in BJP leader's driveway.
What is being alleged here is the Rape and Murder of a 7 year old. But I hope it not the case of the rape of catholic nun in Orissa.

On the other if there is collusion between Media, Maha and Central Govt where this case has been covered up, then there are some serious back room deals going on?
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This would have been funny if not tragic. After all the leaks about "Hindus hiring Muslims to plant bombs", now the new story seems to be "Hindu disguised as Muslims planted bombs".

Why does this logic remind us of a certain western neighbor's theories?

Hindu radicals disguised as Muslims planted Malegaon bombs?
On Monday, as seven of the nine accused who were granted bail in the 2006 Malegaon blasts are set to be released from jail, there was a sense of relief in Nashik town. For years, investigators have been suspecting the involvement of Muslim youths in this case.


It's just a matter of time that the National Investigating Agency files its status report in the case, which is likely to indict the two accused -- Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and Lieutenant Colonel Srikant Purohit.

The focus of the probe in the 2006 Malegaon blasts case has been on the confessions made by Swami Aseemanand, a key figure in the Hindutva terror network. After having admitted to have planned terror attacks on Ajmer Sharif, Mecca Masjid, Malegaon and the Samjhauta Express, Aseemanand retracted his statement. But it was this confession that made it easier of the NIA to gather leads in the 2006 case.

Aseemanand's retraction will not have much impact on the case, according to legal experts. He will have to prove before the trial court that the statement was made under duress. And if he does prove this the court will have to direct the magistrate before whom the statement was made to testify. But despite this the NIA will tread carefully and only use the confession to obtain leads rather than document it before the court.

Today, the investigators are close to cracking the case. But for years the biggest point of debate has been over who planted the bombs in the Muslim cemetery. Hemant Karkare, who led the investigations in the 2008 Malegaon blasts, gave a new dimension to the case after he pointed out the involvement of some radical Hindu groups in terror-related activities. One of angles that was being probed was that Purohit threatened some Muslim youths from the banned Students Islamic Movement of India to prepare the bombs since they had the required expertise. Another theory was that Muslim youths were hired by Hindu extremists to plant the bombs.

Investigations into the 2006 Nanded blast, which investigators say was one of the first terror activities involving Hindu extremists, point out to yet another interesting tactic deployed by saffron extremists.

During a raid that was conducted after the Nanded blast, the police recovered Muslim attire, skullcaps and fake beards at a place where the operation was allegedly planned. During the course of the investigation it was also found that Hindu radicals planned to dress up like Muslims to plant bombs in a move to malign the minority community.

Investigators say that those behind the 2006 Malegaon blasts could have also disguised themselves as Muslims. Soon after the blasts a Muslim newspaper The Milli Gazette reported that a corpse with a fake beard was discovered while lifting bodies after the strike. The police in Malegaon immediately took charge of the body and claimed to have sent it to Nashik. However, the next day it denied that any such body was ever found, said the report.

The report also said that the news of the corpse with the fake beard was carried by Delhi's Urdu daily Hindustan Express on September 9, 2006 and the Mumbai-based Inquilab on September 11, 2006.

Probe agencies have been able to draw a lot of similarities between the attacks in Nanded and Malegaon operations. However, investigators have not been able to reach at a conclusive decision regarding the hiring of Muslim youth to plant bombs or Hindu extremists disguising themselves.

But, Aseemanand had admitted to investigators that he had developed a deep sense of vengeance against Muslims in general. One of the accused in the Nanded blasts -- Manohar Rao -- had confessed to having procured Muslim attire, beards and caps. The accused have said that they wanted to mislead the police by leaving traces of the involvement of the Muslim community. If they planted bombs disguised as Muslims the eyewitnesses' account would reveal the same.

The module also created fake email ids in the names of Muslims once again with an intention of misguiding investigators. A similar modus operandi was used in the terror operations carried out in the Marathwada region in central Maharashtra -- at Jalna, Purna and Parbhani, say insiders.

Aseemanand in his confessions made no mention of the Nanded, Parbhani, Jalna and Purna operations and only spoke about the Mecca Masjid, Malegaon, Samjautha and Ajmer blasts. This clearly indicates that two different modules were involved in the attacks though their motives were similar.
Well, its election time and anything goes.
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I think this report is important for this thread...

Army blasts mysterious IED in Kashmir

Looks like some thing new but also look at interesting things.

Mysterious IED blasted after 4 days on banks of Chenab
By Sanjeev Pargal

JAMMU, Nov 14: After four days, a rare Improvised Explosive Device (IED), weighing over 40 kg, was today finally blasted by the Army at firing range of 11 Rashtriya Rifles on the banks of river Chenab at Bhandarkoot in Kishtwar district.

``The IED was defused safely after taking all precautions by special explosive experts of Army called from Command Headquarters, Udhampur joined by the local Bomb Disposal Squad'', official sources said.

After weighing all pros and cons for three days and examining the two by two feet iron box IED from all angles, the explosive experts decided not to open the box to find out nature of three IEDs concealed under it. :?: Instead, the explosive experts decided to detonate it.

Sources said the box was covered with a large quantity of sand bags and taken to firing range of 11 Rashtriya Rifles on the banks of river Chenab where it was blasted this afternoon. The entire exercise was conducted safely with all precautions, they added.

Already there was no civil population near the firing range. However, the people living in adjacent villages of Bhandarkoot area had already been cautioned by the Army and police not to venture out till the IED was defused. :?:

Sources said investigations had revealed that the large IED box contained three small ready-to-use IEDs inside. The IEDs didn't appear to be locally made, sources said, adding the troops initially wanted to bring out the IEDs to examine their nature and fabrications but decided against it as the experts had described the explosive device ‘‘too dangerous to open’’.

The explosive experts, who had reached Bhandarkoot on Saturday, a day after the recovery of 40 kg weight IED from village Jhawa in upper reaches of Keshwan in Kishtwar district, wanted the explosive device to be detonated on the ground that any attempt to try to bring out three IEDs from the box would involve risk of explosion as they looked like ready-to-use explosive devices, sources said.

The IEDs had been connected with wires and fuses and, most probably, were remote controlled explosive devices. At the time of recovery, no explosive devices were recovered from the hideout of the militants at Jhawa in Keshwan area when the IED along with three UBGL grenades and three Chinese grenades were seized.

DIG Doda-Kishtwar range Manish Kumar Sinha, when contacted, said no X-Ray was possible as the suspected IEDs were concealed inside an iron box. He added that the IED was defused safely but the material inside it couldn't be ascertained.

Sources, however, said that Army has collected remnants of the explosive device for forensic and other tests to ascertain nature of the blasts. The remnants were, however, mixed with sand and would be segregated by the explosive experts.

They added that the IEDs contained deadly explosive material, wires and fuses which was evident from the sound of explosion that occurred when they were detonated despite the fact that the device had been covered with sand bags from all four sides.

This was for the first time that a mysterious 40 kg box explosive device, containing three IEDs inside, most likely manufactured outside, were detected in Kishtwar and it took Army four days to detonate it.

The IED was recovered along with other explosive devices from Jhawa heights on Friday by a joint team of 11 RR and police. The hideouts belonged to slain Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) commander Mohammad Sultan alias Noman, who was gunned down in a joint encounter with Army and police at Keshwan in June this year.
So nw TSP is shipping factory made IEDs. Gives new meaning to Improvised! The iron box was most likely a shipping container for transporting the IEDs. And had sensitive explosives that were setoff when the box was blasted.
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