West Asia News and Discussions (YEMEN, gulf)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Feb 2016 07:44

^ possible. could be a recreation for propaganda reasons. there was another staged catching a IS sniper video posted here.

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Feb 2016 07:59

it looks like fresh meat since not even a lot of blood has flown out, secondly a very brief firefight is seen on scene as well, enough to dispatch a small post of 2-3 manning it.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 12 Feb 2016 08:44

Most of these attacking units carry a camera person with them who documents the attack. In this case, the dead do look fresh KIA. It is possible that the approach to the camp and some part of the fire fights were staged later.

There is one place the camera person moves back in a huff. This movement appeared involuntary / reflex.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 12 Feb 2016 08:58

In the end of course the standard chants against America, Israel and the Jews (separately). It is repeated for effect. And also "life of Abdullah" thrice as a victory chant...presumably Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Point being, nothing specifically anti-Saudi that I could recognize.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Feb 2016 10:42

none of the houthi videos seem to have anti-saudi rants from what little I could catch, but all have the standard down with amrika, down with israel chant.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Feb 2016 10:53

al masdar news:
Earlier today, the Yemeni Army’s missile battalion launched a powerful rocket attack on the Saudi Army’s military installations at the Jizan Regional Airport, causing severe damage to this large site in the Jizan Province of southern Saudi Arabia. According to several field reports from the Yemeni Army, several rockets and a Type-1 Qahir ballistic missile struck the Jizan Regional Airport, resulting in another high death toll for the Saudi regime forces and further destruction to this imperative military site. This latest missile strike comes just 48 hours after the Saudi crown prince attempted to lift the spirits of his soldiers by making a visit to the Jizan field hospital.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/yem ... -in-jizan/ | Al-Masdar News

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 12 Feb 2016 20:28

Oh, Saudis have a clown Yuvaraj just like Rah-ul Gandy, hain?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 13 Feb 2016 03:57

Rolex Army. Lazy @ss people don't stand a chance against the Persians and their Shia allies.

It was always the Turks and subcontinental Empires which did all the fighting for Sunnis.

Turks will finally be ripped apart for good by Shias and Kurds backed by Russians. The last and biggest battle for Islam will occur on Indian subcontinent.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 13 Feb 2016 11:24

^^^
Love your optimism Sirjee.

But the powers supporting the Sunni bloc cannot be ignored. So long as we don't reach a stage of fratricidal war between those two, its difficult to reach the stage of Sunni collapse. That is why Europe is the critical point. When that powder keg explodes, we will be on our way to the final battle.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 13 Feb 2016 11:33

Ah yes, the world powers will be involved and it will get dirty but we must do what is required to maintain territorial integrity. Europe actually doesn't matter a whole lot. Muslims are still heavily outnumbered and they will be forcefully assimilated or kicked out. Pakistan is the last major garrison for Islam and it extends into parts of India. Bangladesh will gradually see the light. Only complete destruction of the Pakistan Army and the jihadi complex will snuff out the power from Sunni Islam.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 13 Feb 2016 11:51

Pakistan is the manpower behind the Ummah. 100% agreed. But it is a malleable entity. It will just shift its allegiance and align with one or the other World powers, just to survive. Question that remains unanswered despite years of discussion herein BRF is how to dismantle it when it still has the 3 and a half fathers. It doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.

On the other hand, dismantling of the GCC is another red line which world powers will not allow, no matter how superior the Shia-Russian group becomes in the military field. So we are back to square one.. how to destroy the evil designs of the World powers? and that is why we need a leadership change in those powers - who even if they cannot help us will look the other way and let us settle our scores. Thats how Europe becomes important.

Even as they kick out the immigrants, they are facing internal pressures - between the sold out ruling class and the nationalists on the streets. That is what i meant by the 'powder keg explosion', not a Sunni-Catholic war. If those guys have any intellect left that will not happen. Just hoping that the confusion created by the local disturbances will keep the world powers too busy to meddle in Asian affairs. Being optimistic onlee.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Feb 2016 13:18

first the msm academic fimli soft power of the caliphate in india has to be dismantled

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 13 Feb 2016 15:37

Check the pics of Houthis , Destruction of Yemenis post Saudi royal troops in the Saudi province of Najran

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1734865.html

habal · Post by **habal** » 14 Feb 2016 09:32

Inside a captured Saudi M1 Abrams MBT by brave Houthi fighters near Al Kubah (Jizan region)

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Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 14 Feb 2016 22:30

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13941125001407
Saudi Intellligence Chief Killed in Missile Attack in Asir - Feb 14, 2016

Quoting informed sources, Yemen's Arabic-language Sa'adah Press reported that the Saudi Army's Intelligence Commander in the region, General Hassan Ahmad al-Mutairi, was killed in a missile attack by Yemen's army.

No more details are available on the development.

On Sunday, the Yemeni forces pounded an important airport and a key military base in Asir province with ballistic and Scud missiles.

Yemen's Qaher-I ballistic missile precisely hit an airport in Abha region in Asir province.

Meantime, a Scud missile struck a military base in Khamis Mushait region in Asir province.

According to the eyewitnesses, several explosions were heard after the Qaher-I missile hit the Abha airport.

During recent days Yemen's Army and popular forces' missiles have been targeting several focal points of Saudi military in al-Jawazat, al-Amarah and al-Khormah in Asir province.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 15 Feb 2016 12:07

Arab states are seeking nuclear weapons to counter Iran, Israel warns
Defence minister Moshe Ya'alon says his country is seeing signs of a much-feared nuclear arms race in the Middle East
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... warns.html

Now Arab states are using the Iran N-deal to quickly acquire N-weapons from .....Pak.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... warns.html

Arab states are seeking nuclear weapons to counter Iran, Israel warns
Defence minister Moshe Ya'alon says his country is seeing signs of a much-feared nuclear arms race in the Middle East
Mr Ya'alon said Washington's allies in the Middle East and Far East had voiced
Moshe Ya'alon said Arab states are "not willing to sit quietly with Iran on brink of a nuclear bomb". Photo: AP

By Raf Sanchez, Jerusalem 14 Feb 2016

Israel has picked up signs of the beginning of a nuclear arms race in the Middle East as Arab states seek nuclear weapons to counter Iran, the Israeli defence minister has warned.

Moshe Ya'alon said Sunni Arab nations were not reassured by last year's nuclear deal between Iran and six world powers and were making their own preparations for nuclear weapons.

"We see signs that countries in the Arab world are preparing to acquire nuclear weapons, that they are not willing to sit quietly with Iran on brink of a nuclear or atomic bomb," Mr Ya'alon said.

The defence minister gave no evidence to back up his claims but Israel closely monitors the military activities of its Arab neighbours.

Israel and the Sunni Gulf countries do not have diplomatic ties but are known to talk through back channels and are united in their opposition to Iran.

US Secretary of State John Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif at the start of talks on Iran's nuclear programme, in Lausanne, Switzerland

Advocates of the nuclear deal, including President Barack Obama, argue that the agreement heads off a Middle East arms race as Iran's nuclear capabilities are rolled back.

But Mr Ya'alon said Iran was liable to break the agreement as their economic situation improves with the lifting of international sanctions. "If at a certain stage they feel confident, particularly economically, they are liable to make a break for the bomb."

Even if the agreement for Iran to limit its nuclear enrichment holds, Mr Ya'alon said its 15-year expiry date was "just around the corner".

He did not specify which Arab nations were making nuclear preparations but Saudi Arabia, the leader of the Sunni states, is considered the most likely candidate.

Its vast oil wealth could help fund a nuclear programme while its ties with Pakistan, a nuclear power, could provide technical expertise.

The United Arab Emirates (UAE) also has oil money and is already building a civilian nuclear power programme, though there is no evidence it is moving to develop weapons.

Mr Ya'alon made the claim after meeting the king of Jordan, one of only two Arab states with which Israel has diplomatic ties.

While Israel's government tried vigorously to derail the nuclear deal, the Israeli military has acknowledged that the agreement has at least bought time before a confrontation with Iran.

Gadi Eisenkot, the head of the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF), said earlier this year that the deal contained "many risks" but also "opportunities" for Israel.

Israel, which secretly built its own nuclear weapons in the 1960s, is now playing a somewhat constructive role in helping to monitor the implementation of the deal, according to Western diplomats.

Israel has helped provide technical knowledge and intelligence as the world tries to make sure Iran is abiding by the terms of the agreement, they said.

Mr Ya'alon said Israel was following the implementation closely "because over many years the Iranians have been deceitful about their nuclear programme".

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Feb 2016 12:19

habal wrote:Inside a captured Saudi M1 Abrams MBT by brave Houthi fighters near Al Kubah (Jizan region)

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Why did they detonate it later, could have been covertly exported after some time , sure they could have driven itsomewhere secure for them.

habal · Post by **habal** » 15 Feb 2016 14:25

maybe they didn't know how to operate it, couldn't find it's ignition. In Syria the FSA are ex-engineering and artillery types. So they know what to do.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 15 Feb 2016 14:39

Houthis have been singular in their approach to battlefield action. They have always destroyed captured Saudi mil ware. Maybe because it is also part of their battle strategy. They always seem to move in small guerrilla groups and strike camps in an ambush. Heavy weaponry does not seem to suit their style.

Their long range strikes are missile based proving 02 things -
> They are not averse or unfamiliar to technology
> If they have to strike a bigger camp they use missiles and no arty.

All this based only on videos I've seen of Houthi action.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Feb 2016 15:31

also, i believe they mostly operate in guerrilla mode - and melt into the hills. difficult to do with heavy weapons and also run the risk of air retalliation

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 15 Feb 2016 16:12

yes, they're heqq on them Saudi battleships too.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 15 Feb 2016 17:00

This is a question I have asked b4. Have you ever tried to log in to any system operated by the Khan's Fauj? There are at least 2 levels of security and authentication followed by the dire warnings.

That's for stuff like downloading an innocuous report in the public domain.

Do you **REALLY** believe that they would specify a weapon system such as M-1A1 without remembering to put in cyber security measures? Yes, I realize that it might have to be operated by someone under stress, unable to think beyond 3rd-grade level because of the combat condition, unable to see the keyboard or screen properly. But just look at it from the pov of the poor sod who has to write specs - they **CANNOT** afford not to put in security.

Even car dealerships do that. You can dismantle a car but you really can't run it without the Magic Code. Like "Oben Sesame!" or "Plaise the Rawd!" or "This is my Rifle, This is My Gun" or "Clementine". Or "Of All The Animals In the Zoo, Parlez-Vous!" At least "She Went Into The Water", hain?

I think the Houthis are proof of that.

Now think about how ISIS was able to just come in and drive off with 100,000 Hummers and M-1A1 tanks and TOWs from Ramadi and you see why I say that ISIS is 100% supported by Obama and his al-lies. I think the RDX and C4 for their VBIEDs is also supplied in nice crates marked like milk powder in the 1960s:

From the People of the United States of America

A picture of a nice handshake and Old Glory and all. Brings tears to the eyes.

Not 2 mention nausea

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 15 Feb 2016 18:04

....haven't seen any vids or pics of ISIS operating m-1 tanks.......so solly.......

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Feb 2016 18:12

here is some evidence of isis capturing iraqi abrams earlier...its unclear if they used it. arranging for aviation turbine fuel is hard when russian tanks run on easy diesel

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/ ... er_ambush/

plus they would need trained crew to operate the electronic gunnery systems

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 15 Feb 2016 18:20

m-1's are multi fuel and can use diesel in a pinch.....but the electronics should be difficult for untrained personnel to use....

really, I don't recall seeing hardly any humvees being used by ISIS either....

they love them toyoters and ford-250's though.......

Mongol speaking from the heart not the head......

my son was Mr Good Wrench on M-1's, M-2 Bradley, humvees, trucks, multi rocket launchers, bridge layers, gigantic generators, and specialized in tank road side service driving m-88 tank retreiver. for 7 years. could switch out m-1 engine in a little over an hour. took longer for tank crew to go through engine acceptance test......could prolly write his own ticket in Saudia Arabia right now, but he ain't big on hot desert sand and Houthies....

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 15 Feb 2016 19:22

TSJones wrote: really, I don't recall seeing hardly any humvees being used by ISIS either....
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they love them toyoters and ford-250's though.......

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Humvees and MRAPS with ISIS in multiple ISIS videos in initial Peshmerga engagements in Iraq. You can check even Peshmerga videos from end 2014 to Mar '15

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Feb 2016 19:59

hummers are fuel hogs compared the cheaper looted pickups and while they have superior mobility in mud and snow I think the lower weight and ground pressure of the pickups score for desert and road use.

member_29325 · Post by **member_29325** » 15 Feb 2016 20:37

TSJones wrote: really, I don't recall seeing hardly any humvees being used by ISIS either....

Maybe this will refresh your memory. Hummers captured from ISIS by PYD, so these guys in front of the Hummers is not ISIS.

more images

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 16 Feb 2016 00:44

I didn't say there weren't any, I said I didn't recall hardly of them being used. there is a difference.... and according to my son the darn things break down all the time so any use of humvees would be a logistical problem for ISIS unlike toyeaters and ford 250's. all civilian there and logistics easily acquired.

the effect of captured humvees by ISIS would be mini-skool in comparison..........

what was your previous nom de guerre on the forum, thiruv?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 16 Feb 2016 00:51

^it is an illegal question to ask and reveal!

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 16 Feb 2016 01:04

SaiK wrote:^it is an illegal question to ask and reveal!

I don't recall reading any rules about that. he doesn't have to answer if he doesn't want to. but clearly, he has posted here before.......

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 16 Feb 2016 05:11

Singha wrote:hummers are fuel hogs compared the cheaper looted pickups and while they have superior mobility in mud and snow I think the lower weight and ground pressure of the pickups score for desert and road use.

ISIS has been using Hummers for Medium-Sized IEDs. Nice metal fragments, I guess. Also hard to blow up by defenders with small arms/rifle fire or even RPGs. Maybe deflects TOWs as well, with the grillwork/armor put on more recent versions. Lots of news items. Sorry, TSJi, the hard evidence is right there. Impossible to ignore, heart or heartless.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 Feb 2016 07:00

people exclusively use ATGMs to stop VBIED these days....because they can be guided and have much more range than RPGs. the truck VBIEDs have a effect like a small nuclear blast with a mushroom cloud, so I doubt anyone even hiding in a 200m radius will escape intact from the overpressure effect.....might cause severe bleeding and concussion.

they keep atleast 2 ATGMs loaded and ready for action, the second one shoots if the first one misses.

Shanu · Post by **Shanu** » 16 Feb 2016 23:34

The great Herrows of Sunni World - Saudis are now turning to the non Sunni Ibadis of Oman to save face.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Will-O ... 6-601.html

One Middle East paper, Al Monitor, has asked, "Can Oman help Saudis save face in Yemen?Nine months after launching Operation Decisive Storm, the Saudis find themselves entrenched in a humiliating quagmire while extremists such as the Islamic State (IS) are proving to be the only victors in Yemen's civil war. The kingdom has received strong criticism from the international community and human rights groups, which accuse Saudi Arabia of carrying out war crimes against Yemeni civilians. Moral costs aside, the expensive military campaign has also exacerbated Riyadh's financial crisis."

As most readers know, Oman's neighboring country of Yemen has been under siege from Saudi Arabia and its coalition partners since late March 2015. In the interim, the USA has sold record numbers of weaponry to the Saudi Kingdom over the past year. Saudi and its other coalition partners (Egypt, Morocco, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, Sudan, Qatar and Bahrain) entered the Yemeni Civil War just as the Sultan of Oman was recovering from cancer treatment, which he had undertaken in Germany.

Until recently, Oman had been considered the staunchest USA supporter in the region, but in the past year, Omani tastes for the USA military overreach in the Gulf has led to a cooling. It is rumored that the USA base in Thumrait, Oman--less than 100 kilometers from the Yemen border--will soon be closed. Oman has been the only major peacemaker in the Middle East for some time. It recently aided the USA in settling the nuclear issue with Iran and has allowed Iran to rejoin regional and global trading agreements.

Oman has often been quietly active in negotiations with other warring states and peoples in the past. The Sultan of Oman spearheaded the idea of regional police and military force cooperation in the Arabian Peninsula over a quarter of a century ago. However, Oman refused in 2015 to join its warring neighbors--including the other 5 members of the Gulf Cooperation Council-- in Yemen and has, instead, offered primarily only humanitarian relief to the many Yemeni victims of war. UNICEF has recently declared that over 10 million Yemeni children are to be seen as victims of war. many of these are starving and shell-shocked--if not injured. The Omani government says that it has helped "nationals from 48 countries" leave Yemen and return to their home countries, and that it had taken in 2,695 refugees from Yemen as of mid-April 2015.

"Desperate for a dignified exit from Yemen, the [Saudi) kingdom has turned to its neighbor Oman for a political solution to the worsening crisis. Ultimately, this plan might be Riyadh's most realistic means of saving face in Yemen." According to Al Monitor, "Since the launch of Operation Decisive Storm, Oman has hosted representatives from many factions in the civil war. In May, US State Department officials held secret talks in Muscat with a Houthi delegation, and Houthi representatives met with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif and with GCC officials. Omani officials have also secured the release of Western civilians detained in Yemen by militant groups."

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 17 Feb 2016 00:20

TSJones wrote:m-1's are multi fuel and can use diesel in a pinch.....but the electronics should be difficult for untrained personnel to use....

really, I don't recall seeing hardly any humvees being used by ISIS either....

they love them toyoters and ford-250's though.......

Mongol speaking from the heart not the head......

my son was Mr Good Wrench on M-1's, M-2 Bradley, humvees, trucks, multi rocket launchers, bridge layers, gigantic generators, and specialized in tank road side service driving m-88 tank retreiver. for 7 years. could switch out m-1 engine in a little over an hour. took longer for tank crew to go through engine acceptance test......could prolly write his own ticket in Saudia Arabia right now, but he ain't big on hot desert sand and Houthies....

If you can believe it,

https://www.rt.com/news/263769-iraq-isi ... s-weapons/

“In the collapse of Mosul, we lost a lot of weapons,” Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said in an interview with Iraqiya state TV. “We lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul alone.”

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Feb 2016 08:31

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bl ... est-yemen/

The U.S. based Blackwater Group has reportedly abandoned the Ta’iz front in western Yemen after suffering heavy casualties over the last two months while fighting alongside the Saudi-led Coalition forces and the Hadi loyalists.

Local activists have reported this news after they intercepted a communication between Blackwater officers and members of the Saudi-led Coalition in the coastal province of Ta’iz.

In a matter of two months, the Blackwater Group has lost well over 100 casualties at the volatile Ta’iz front, including operatives from a dozen countries around the world. Most of the Blackwater operatives killed in Yemen were believed to be from Colombia and Argentina; however, there were also casualties from the United States (U.S.), Australia, and France.

Blackwater Group’s withdrawal from the Ta’iz Governorate comes just four days after the Houthis and the Yemeni Army’s 48th Brigade of the Republican Guard seized Jabal Al-Shabakah

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/bl ... est-yemen/ | Al-Masdar News

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Feb 2016 08:32

blackwater has changed its name but the yemenis probably use the name for all foreign merc consulting houses as a catch-all due to its name recognition.

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 17 Feb 2016 09:03

Blackwater lost their local boss (from US) in one particular Yemeni theater about a fortnight ago. Terror Monitor was reporting it. Missed posting here.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 17 Feb 2016 11:06

Lisa wrote:
TSJones wrote:m-1's are multi fuel and can use diesel in a pinch.....but the electronics should be difficult for untrained personnel to use....

really, I don't recall seeing hardly any humvees being used by ISIS either....

they love them toyoters and ford-250's though.......

Mongol speaking from the heart not the head......

my son was Mr Good Wrench on M-1's, M-2 Bradley, humvees, trucks, multi rocket launchers, bridge layers, gigantic generators, and specialized in tank road side service driving m-88 tank retreiver. for 7 years. could switch out m-1 engine in a little over an hour. took longer for tank crew to go through engine acceptance test......could prolly write his own ticket in Saudia Arabia right now, but he ain't big on hot desert sand and Houthies....
If you can believe it,

https://www.rt.com/news/263769-iraq-isi ... s-weapons/

“In the collapse of Mosul, we lost a lot of weapons,” Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said in an interview with Iraqiya state TV. “We lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul alone.”

Irrelevant. doesn't mean those humvees are being used or even capable of being maintained. Mosul fell to ISIS in June 2014.

Grok that......

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 17 Feb 2016 14:35

it is believed that many sunni regulars in the iraqi army 'defected' to ISIS, not to mention the old Ba'ath party dudes
so ISIS were not short of trained soldiers and mechanics