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Again Time pass but informative

Sustaining The Indo-U.S. Strategic Partnership - Shyam Saran

Published on 17 Apr 2015

Since joining the Indian Foreign Service in 1970, Shyam Saran has been India's Ambassador to Myanmar, Indonesia and Nepal and High Commissioner to Mauritius. As a Joint Secretary in the Prime Minister's Office in 1991-92, he advised the Prime Minister on foreign policy, nuclear, and defense related
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pankajs wrote:If you have time to waste but does give some insight into American exceptionalism, etc

The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles and Their Secret World War (Book)
Published on 4 Nov 2013

Stephen Kinzer's book provides us with a glimpse into the overt and covert policies of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and CIA Director Allen Dulles during the Eisenhower administration and how their actions and "secret world war" shaped and changed the trajectory of 6 countries and created a pattern of interventions that benefited U.S. interests that linger with us until today.
The Indo China relations and Indo China war is directly a result of the policy of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles
All Indians have to read these

The control and expansion in Asia continued with the policy of Dulles.
Connect with the book.
ASIA AND WESTERN DOMINANCE
A Survey of the Vasco Da Gama Epoch of Asian History 1498-1945
BY K. M. PANIKKAR

The principal themes of Asia and Western Dominance are easily enumerated. In Panikkar's own words, "the four hundred and fifty years which began with the arrival of Vasco da Gama in Calicut (in 1498), and ended with the withdrawal of British forces from India in 1947 and of the European navies from China in 1949, constitute a clearly marked epoch of history." He accordingly dubbed the period, "the Vasco da Gama epoch".

"The period of European control of the States of Asia," he wrote, "is a dividing line in their history, for both by resistance and by adaptation they have had to call forth new vitality and consciously adapt themselves to new ideas by which alone they were able gradually to recover their independence anti strength."

In his conclusion to the book, Panikkar states that "the Europe expansion tower the East began as a crusade . It was the beginning of one of the great Crusades, the Eat Crusade we might call it." We may say that Panikkar's intellectual response as it emerges in this volume is no less crusading in the substance as well as efficiency of his argumentative fire power.
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IDSA researcher selling Arunachal border troop deployment secrets for few $$ ...

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/39/3 ... rder-.html
From: namrata goswami <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:40 AM
Subject: Visit to India-China border
To: Peter Garretson


Dear Peter,

As part of my project on "International Security Audit: Great/Major
Power Cooperation or Competition in Asia" at the Institute for Defence
Studies and Analyses, New Delhi, which included a specific focus on the
Chinese territorial claim on the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh and
the border dispute there, I undertook an intensive month long field
study in the claimed state as well as the India-China border areas last
month (March 2011).

I specifically focused on the state of infrastructure and military
preparedness on both sides of the India-China border; local perceptions
of the Chinese claim, the issue of Tibet and the implications of my
research findings for major power relations in Asia (read India and
China)...

I was wondering if there are possibilities of making a presentation in
Washington DC based on my findings from the field trip on "Major Power
Relations in Asia: A Case Study of India-China"; also, if there is the
possibility of a short term project on this very critical issue in a
reputed think tank in Washington DC.

I will appreciate your advice.

best
Namrata

--

Namrata Goswami
MDJC-SIJC, M'Phil-Ph.D.
Research Fellow
Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses
Development Enclave-1
Delhi Cantonment (Near USI)
New Delhi---110010
India
cell--09811440306,
email-- <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ,[email protected]
website- <http://website--www.idsa.in/>
--http://www.idsa.in/profile/ngoswami
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She is still in IDSA and looks like she sold it to USIP...

http://www.idsa.in/profile/ngoswami

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Dr. Goswami was a Senior Fellow at the United States Institute of Peace (USIP), Washington. D.C from October 2012 to June 2013; Visiting Fellow at the South Asia Institute, University of Heidelberg (November–December 2010); the International Peace Research Institute, Oslo (PRIO), August 2006 to July 2010; and a Visiting Fellow at the Centre for Dialogue, La Trobe University, Melbourne from April to August 2009. She is a recipient of the Fulbright-Nehru Senior Research Fellowship, 2012-2013.
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I missed this, look at who she sent the info first to, straight to USAF/pentagon...

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/39/3 ... rder-.html
From: "Garretson, Peter A Lt Col MIL USAF HAF/CK"
<[email protected]>

Date: April 5, 2011 6:04:27 PM CDT
To: Reva Bhalla <[email protected]>
Subject: Visit to India-China border
Something for you to stick in your quiver. Not too many people get to
make such site visits and interviews
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Send the info to PMO on twitter :)
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I love how the stratfor guy put the phrase 'reputed think tank' in quotes. He knows exactly what her motivations are :)
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^^

Its a gal, Indian origin . reva bhalla is a "sepoy" of stratfor. she understands exactly what "wanna be sepoy" motivations are
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What is the end game of people like that Indian gal? Are they expecting that massa will "reward" them eventually with a GC/US Citizenship or get them in a position of authority in a covert massa founded "Think Tank" in India or in the US?
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Please tweet to MP and PMOIndia....doesnt hurt for them to know of these things.
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x-post

IDSA researchers don't have access to classified material in the normal course of things. and even if one did, he/she will most definitely not use email to communicate it. from the disclosures so far, at most she is guilty of badly wanting to bag a trip to the US.

please put an end to this kite flying.
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Zynda wrote:What is the end game of people like that Indian gal? Are they expecting that massa will "reward" them eventually with a GC/US Citizenship or get them in a position of authority in a covert massa founded "Think Tank" in India or in the US?
She has a PhD already, she wants to raise her profile and get "expert" status. She is seeking ways to do so (hence the stress on "reputed think tank") etc.

If nothing this shows how "experts" in such fields are created. They claim to have knowledge and then ask a price for it in some form, usually a post doc position/faculty position/ research position. Whether they have useful knowledge or not is a whole another matter :) (Rahul M saar has clarified above on what level of info the lady must be having)
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Deepening the U.S.-India Commercial Partnership- Afternoon Panels (Two panel; Smart Cities concept and the Make in India campaign)

Published on 17 Apr 2015

We are pleased to invite you to a special U.S.-India business collaboration conference taking place at CSIS on April 15, co-organized by the Ananta Aspen Centre and the Wadhwani Foundation. This full-day conference will convene senior policymakers, business leaders, and other stakeholders from both countries with the aim of generating practical policy recommendations that enhance economic cooperation. The session will include expert-led discussions covering some of the Modi government's most important economic initiatives including the Smart Cities concept, the Make in India campaign, and Skills Development. The conference will feature a keynote address by India's Finance Minister, Arun Jaitley.
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LokeshC: that's part for the course. Varying amounts of Resume padding happens at all levels. Networking is an accepted way of getting jobs, contracts, sales, and promotions. As long as no rules are broken let them be.
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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150419/b ... ider-india
he United States of America (USA) has toppled Mauritius to become the top jurisdiction from where India is receiving the highest amount of foreign portfolio investment (FPI) into the equity markets.Mauritius lost out due to the uncertainty over the double tax avoidance treaty (DTAA) between India and Mauritius and constant threat of them being reviewed.

According to data available with the Securities and Exchange Board India (Sebi), total investment made by fund managers originating from US accounted for 32.47 per cent of the total portfolio investment in the country.
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Congress is not in power hence recirculation via Mauritius is on the wane. No big deal.

And Deccan Chronicle is a Congress hypester outlet.
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ramana wrote:Congress is not in power hence recirculation via Mauritius is on the wane. No big deal.
And Deccan Chronicle is a Congress hypester outlet.
Are they under invoicing export to USA now a days ?
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Endless chatter but if you have time to waste.

“Strategic Plus”: Taking U.S.-India Relations to a New Level
Streamed live on 27 Mar 2015

In his first visit to Washington since taking over as the U.S. ambassador to India, Ambassador Richard Verma will discuss how the bilateral strategic partnership has moved into a new “strategic plus” phase, and what must be done to sustain the momentum that is transforming and deepening the two countries’ ties.
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US paying debts to Soothia:
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/590228191802839041
ABC NewsVerified account ‏@ABC

Pentagon asserts carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, cruiser USS Normandy moved into Arabian Sea over deteriorating security situation in Yemen.
We dont have ships to rescue our citizens from Yemen. But we have a phucking carrier battlegroup to send to Yemen. Because Iran.

Shameful!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/18/busin ... pe=nyt_now

US losing it's 'leadership role'
“withdrawal” by the US from the world stage
or
Washington losing it's legitimacy after years of military adventurisms thinly disguised as foreign policy 'missteps'.
The spring meetings of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank have filled Washington with motorcades and traffic jams and loaded the schedules of President Obama and Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew. But they have also highlighted what some in Washington and around the world see as a United States government so bitterly divided that it is on the verge of ceding the global economic stage it built at the end of World War II and has largely directed ever since.

“It’s almost handing over legitimacy to the rising powers,” Arvind Subramanian, the chief economic adviser to the government of India, said of the United States in an interview on Friday. “People can’t be too public about these things, but I would argue this is the single most important issue of these spring meetings.”

Other officials attending the meetings this week, speaking on the condition of anonymity, agreed that the role of the United States around the world was at the top of their concerns.

Washington’s retreat is not so much by intent, Mr. Subramanian said, but a result of dysfunction and a lack of resources to project economic power the way it once did. Because of tight budgets and competing financial demands, the United States is less able to maintain its economic power, and because of political infighting, it has been unable to formally share it either.

Experts say that is giving rise to a more chaotic global shift, especially toward China, which even Obama administration officials worry is extending its economic influence in Asia and elsewhere without following the higher standards for environmental protection, worker rights and business transparency that have become the norms among Western institutions… :rotfl:

An overhaul of the I.M.F.’s governance structure, negotiated five years ago in large part by President Obama to give China and other emerging powers more authority commensurate with their growing economic strength, has languished in Congress. That, in part, propelled China to create its own multilateral lending institution in direct competition with the behemoths in Washington.

And as we’ve argued exhaustively, the AIIB represents far more than a competing infrastructure lender. It represents the ascendancy of Chinese foreign policy and also ushers in a new era wherein the yuan charts a gradual course towards reserve currency status.

For much of Washington and the world’s economic leaders, China’s creation of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank crystallized the choice policy makers face. Earlier this month, Lawrence Summers, who was a top economic adviser for both President Bill Clinton and Mr. Obama, declared that China’s establishment of a new economic institution and Washington’s failure to keep its allies from joining it signaled “the moment the United States lost its role as the underwriter of the global economic system.”

For years, China had threatened to establish institutions to rival those dominated by the West, like the I.M.F., World Bank and Asian Development Bank — or even to establish its currency, the renminbi, as a reserve currency to rival the dollar.
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US funds its economy by printing dollars while using its control of world financial markets and systems to keep the value of dollars steady. More than any military posture, retaining value of dollar and using dollar as the currency of trade for oil has been an uncompromising strand of US strategic priority and foreign policy. Its war against Iraq / Libya were done in part to protect the dollar driven system.

India cannot allow Chinese to emerge as the next Americans as they are lot more closed, arrogant and ill disposed to India than Americans. One option for US to retain its prominence is by expanding the base of dollars and looping in their key allies into the dollar economy. For example, in the longer term, US Dollar were to evolve into a NATO-Dollar replacing Euro, Pound sterling and individual currencies of Japan and Australia, and its client gulf states such as KSA and UAE, US can expand Dollars prominence by another century and keep China at bay. At some point, India should strive for fixed (or controlled) pegging of Rupee against the NATO-Dollar. Free convertibility of rupee is open to manipulation by foreign hands.

Given that lot of India's FDI and foreign remittances are from dollar dominated countries or economies (Gulf is also dollar dominated indirectly), it is better for India to see dollar survive as the global currency as opposed to Yuan / Renminbi.
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China is INdia's neighbour. So India has direct leverage over China. We have no leverage over USA whatsoever. And moreover they are the world' biggest sponsor of Islamic terror. USA's axis of evil, which includes Pakistan & Saudi Arabia including Turkey, England etc is really evil and flith of the globe.
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Habal ji, not disagreeing with what you are saying, but US also has some great aspects of its culture. Many US thinkers that shaped its society were openly influenced by India and the cultural and people to people links between US and India is ever increasing. If you leave out the EJ backed anti-India sentiment, US is the most open large country to Dharmic thoughts.

Martin Luther King Jr, Henry David Thoreau, Ralph Waldo Emerson are to name a few that comes to top of my mind. The new age movement and even in philosophy the Integral philosophy championed by Ken Wilber, etc., in recent times is heavily influenced by Bhuddist and Advaidic thoughts and works of Sri Aurobindo.

Tell me one instance of such cultural integration between India and China. Chinese are the most ruthless people in the world and they do not have evolved notions of one humanity, etc., that the New Age elites of the West has. China is not our natural partner in the long term. US will be - when it mends its ways and gives up supporting Sunni terrorism in the world.
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I have a feeling china would turn out to be a bigger devil than usa. atleast there has been a good amt of migration into usa and we "understand" their deep state. our migration to cheen is 0 and their intentions very opaque.
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that may be true in long term when they get too powerful, but India has leverage against China. There is South Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Philipines, Australia and a whole lot of others in neighbourhood. So China will always be careful in their dealing with India. But supporting a non-asian power has bought the entire world to this sorry pass as we find state of mid-east today.

Now USA has nothing to lose being a continent and an ocean away from Asia, they can foment as many wars in Asia without any damage to them. They have a purely geo-political and resources play in Asia rather than a constructive one. China has much more stake in Asia in comparison, and if west wants to change status quo then let them support India instead of China.
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Dr. Chitra Rajan ‏@rajan_chitra_dr 2h2 hours ago

@sgurumurthy @MDPai05 US town gets 1st black mayor, 80% of its cops quit
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... w/47001934 …. They say our minorities are not safe
The link is bad but here is another link to the same story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 90057.html
Parma, Missouri: 80 per cent of town's police quit after first black mayor is elected

The election of the first black mayor in a small Missouri town has prompted an exodus of city employees, with 80 per cent of the town’s police force resigning before Mayor Tyrus Byrd even took office.

The Parma, Missouri city attorney, city clerk and water-treatment supervisor also stepped down before Ms Byrd officially took over the town last week, according to KFVS. Outgoing Mayor Randall Ramsey – who was in city government for 37 years – said the officers offered no notice before resigning.

It is not immediately clear why the officers quit the force, but the other administrators said their resignations were a result of “safety concerns”. Five of the department’s six officers stepped down, including two full-time and three part-time cops.
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^^Cops quit? Just like that?

And let go of juicy, padded-up pensions just like that? Nah. Nobody here was born y'day. Something stinks bigtime. And it ain't the mayor. Onlee.
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schinnas wrote:Habal ji, not disagreeing with what you are saying, but US also has some great aspects of its culture. Many US thinkers that shaped its society were openly influenced by India and the cultural and people to people links between US and India is ever increasing. If you leave out the EJ backed anti-India sentiment, US is the most open large country to Dharmic thoughts.

Martin Luther King Jr, Henry David Thoreau, Ralph Waldo Emerson are to name a few that comes to top of my mind. The new age movement and even in philosophy the Integral philosophy championed by Ken Wilber, etc., in recent times is heavily influenced by Bhuddist and Advaidic thoughts and works of Sri Aurobindo.

Tell me one instance of such cultural integration between India and China. Chinese are the most ruthless people in the world and they do not have evolved notions of one humanity, etc., that the New Age elites of the West has. China is not our natural partner in the long term. US will be - when it mends its ways and gives up supporting Sunni terrorism in the world.
China is also opening up slowly and will eventually have to mend its ways. We have closer cultural links with them and they don't have a Christian deep state.
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Looks like Preet Bhadwara has started a trend in the US. New stereotype: Shady Indian trader.

US blames Dow flash-crash on British-Indian trader, seeks his extradition

Most important paragraph:
US authorities said Sarao was not solely to be blamed for the crash, but ''his conduct was significantly responsible for the order unbalance, which was one of the conditions'' that led to the crash. They have sought Sarao's extradition from UK.
I must congrats all the brown skinned coconuts in the US admin for the fine job they are doing. Being a house slave must surely be paying off.
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habal wrote:that may be true in long term when they get too powerful, but India has leverage against China. There is South Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Philipines, Australia and a whole lot of others in neighbourhood. So China will always be careful in their dealing with India. But supporting a non-asian power has bought the entire world to this sorry pass as we find state of mid-east today.

Now USA has nothing to lose being a continent and an ocean away from Asia, they can foment as many wars in Asia without any damage to them. They have a purely geo-political and resources play in Asia rather than a constructive one. China has much more stake in Asia in comparison, and if west wants to change status quo then let them support India instead of China.
habal,

you are wrong here. the us has been hindered by the distance. china has not. china was a paper tiger until the 90s. And like 47, 62 was a story of the indian political class feeling that a bigger defeat or much more destruction of the army would bring aboult balkanization and lamp posts.

Then, china would have lost tibet. Now china has no weaknesses compared to india and simply barges in on a whim at any border and camps. you can forget china occupied kashmir, let alone tibet.

china has much bigger problems with india. it is changing the status quo -- infrastructure that helps encroachment and not just in south china sea. India is scared of even making places like DBO functional or building a road in AP. Forget ordinary people visiting and bringing some transparancy.

Indian foreign relations -- with US, and with china or pakistan are entirely mythical. The maps shown to the population are mythical. The status on the ground is shrouded in secrecy. The number of people dying are not reported. where will you find out about it? In the news? By visiting?

China will shoo off india like it does vietnam and phillipines today. And circles japans islands despite US protection. It is just a matter of another decade.

India's weakness is its polity and bureacracy. Not technology denial, not geography, and not resources. We are simply seeing more 1962s happen all the time, without batting an eye lid.
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^^^ are you being sarcastic?
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LokeshC wrote: I must congrats all the brown skinned coconuts in the US admin for the fine job they are doing. Being a house slave must surely be paying off.
Not always.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _home.html
Bobby Jindal, unpopular at home, getting little traction for 2016 presidential race.
BATON ROUGE -- Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal's focus on states important in the presidential campaign is drawing lots of criticism at home and doing little apparent good for his 2016 prospects.
Lost -- at least for now -- in a pack of better-known White House contenders, Jindal is taking heat in Louisiana for a $1.6 billion budget shortfall that threatens colleges and health care services with deep cuts. Lawmakers from both parties say his national political ambitions are a distraction.
"People, I believe, would love to separate themselves from him," said Republican state Sen. Robert Adley.
Despite frequent travel, his attention to national issues, a good relationship with religious conservatives and plenty of sharp rhetoric against President Barack Obama, Jindal is making little impact in the Republican race.
Even so, it's early in the contest, and the term-limited governor is expected to announce a presidential bid after state lawmakers wrap up their legislative session in mid-June. He has sent political aides to Iowa and recently announced the hiring of a political operative for New Hampshire.
A Catholic convert raised by Hindu parents, Jindal has pivoted from his reputation as a policy wonk to make his religious beliefs the centerpiece of a possible White House campaign. He has courted evangelical Christians through meetings with pastors and aggressively promoted "religious liberty" in speeches.......
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A Catholic convert raised by Hindu parents, Jindal has pivoted from his reputation as a policy wonk to make his religious beliefs the centerpiece of a possible White House campaign. He has courted evangelical Christians through meetings with pastors and aggressively promoted "religious liberty" in speeches.......
Gautam
That is the problem right there. Fox news (Dana Perino and other four of "The Five" are singing peons to him the other day) is the final nail in the coffin. But then alternatives are Billary or Ron (stop-immigrants-at-the-border Libertarian Right) Paul or Rubio (sorry for that slip - he could be cultivated to be a friend of India) or whatchammacallit Cruz.
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In Contrast To BJ of Lostiana
The U.S. Presidential Race: Marco Rubio’s Surprising Interest in India
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2015/04/21/th ... -in-india/
Among the Republican field, Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) has a well-known interest in foreign policy. Since his election to the U.S. Senate in 2010, he has served on the Foreign Affairs Committee, the Select Committee on Intelligence, and the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. He has made his voice heard especially in the debate over policy toward Cuba, from where his parents fled. What’s lesser known, and a bit more surprising, is this: the junior senator from Florida also has a declared interest in India.Last September, coinciding with Indian prime minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Washington, Rubio penned an op-ed in the Daily Signal. He faulted the Obama administration for having “neglected” India after the George W. Bush administration’s opening to New Delhi. According to Rubio: “India, the world’s largest democracy, has the potential to become a key U.S. partner in the decades ahead.”
Rubio wants to strengthen security cooperation with India, especially through joint naval exercises bilaterally and with other partners, and collaboration on “emerging technologies” in missile defense and in space. He advocates deeper cooperation with India, not just in South Asia, but also by “encouraging greater Indian involvement” in the Middle East and East Asia. He notes India’s large Muslim population and its stake in combating radical Islam. Finally, he uses the example of Florida’s $1 billion annual exports to India to illustrate why trade ties with India’s large and growing market matter to Americans.
In addition, Rubio’s role as one of the bipartisan Senate “Gang of Eight” working toward comprehensive immigration reform established his leadership in an area of high priority for the Indian government. The Senate bill, which never found a companion in the House of Representatives and therefore languished, proposed an expansion of the annual limit on highly-skilled worker visas (H1-B visas). India, which already accounts for well more than half of all H1-Bs issued worldwide, would welcome the higher cap.India’s technology companies opposed the bill’s restrictions on these visas for companies with high percentages of H1-B workers. They saw the bill as unfairly penalizing their business model. That apart, Rubio favors welcoming highly skilled workers (“stapling green cards to their diplomas”) and expanding the H1-B program.The Daily Signal op-ed notwithstanding, Rubio has yet to engage deeply with the world’s largest democracy. Rubio has traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan, but not yet visited India. Nor has he joined the Senate India Caucus, a bipartisan group thirty-five senators strong. Though he met with India’s ambassador to the United States in 2012, and issued a statement noting the role India could play in stabilizing Afghanistan, he did not meet with Prime Minister Narendra Modi during his visit to the United States.But he has given India greater priority than other Republican candidates in the field thus far, and is on the record with his goals. His Senate press secretary Brooke Sammon stated that Rubio “intends to continue to advocate for policies that advance our shared security and economic interests and reflect the changing strategic landscape in South Asia and the broader region.”In policy terms, Rubio’s approach to India hews closely to the Republican argument for a strategic opening that led to the civil-nuclear agreement and a rapid expansion of the bilateral relationship. However, India has by and large been a rare issue of bipartisan agreement, and many Democrats (including Hillary Clinton) have expressed the same policy views. No one expects India to be a major campaign issue, but it would be interesting if Rubio emerges as the nominee and accuses the Democrats of not doing enough to further ties with New Delhi.
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vayu tuvan wrote:
A Catholic convert raised by Hindu parents, Jindal has pivoted from his reputation as a policy wonk to make his religious beliefs the centerpiece of a possible White House campaign. He has courted evangelical Christians through meetings with pastors and aggressively promoted "religious liberty" in speeches.......
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That is the problem right there. Fox news (Dana Perino and other four of "The Five" are singing peons to him the other day) is the final nail in the coffin. But then alternatives are Billary or Ron (stop-immigrants-at-the-border Libertarian Right) Paul or Rubio or whatchammacallit Cruz.
this opportunistic "leader" chose conversion to catholicism when conversion to protestantism would have better served him in the US?? Not usual for bobbyj to make such a glaring mistake, especially when the dedicated furtherance of his personal ambition is involved.
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schinnas wrote:Habal ji, not disagreeing with what you are saying, but US also has some great aspects of its culture. Many US thinkers that shaped its society were openly influenced by India and the cultural and people to people links between US and India is ever increasing. If you leave out the EJ backed anti-India sentiment, US is the most open large country to Dharmic thoughts.

Martin Luther King Jr, Henry David Thoreau, Ralph Waldo Emerson are to name a few that comes to top of my mind. The new age movement and even in philosophy the Integral philosophy championed by Ken Wilber, etc., in recent times is heavily influenced by Bhuddist and Advaidic thoughts and works of Sri Aurobindo.

Tell me one instance of such cultural integration between India and China. Chinese are the most ruthless people in the world and they do not have evolved notions of one humanity, etc., that the New Age elites of the West has. China is not our natural partner in the long term. US will be - when it mends its ways and gives up supporting Sunni terrorism in the world.
Ken wilber learnt the Indian systems(Shri Aurobindo etc) and is trying to obliterate the very Indian sources claiming he has superseded them.
he is like anyother western charlatan who use Indian sources to springboard to success and later jettison them.
wetserners incluidng americans want to appropriate Indian good stuff, repackage them into western ideas and sell it to the world including Indians.
Martin Luther King Thoreau Emerson etc all may have done some good, but still they are not ours. They sure opened the eyes of westerners but I believe emerson made a U turn later on in his life.

IMHO westerners including americans are more dangerous than chinese.
There are more formidable foes than chinese in many aspects.
it is more of clash of dharmic system and abrahamic religions.

chinese ruthlessness is more due to communism. this is a product incubated in europe. (product of christianity- which made it reject the religion due to its excesses in europe)This is wreaking havoc in china. christianity makes a comeback in places with communism.
chinese never had problems with India as long as there was no communism. Buddhist china was never a threat for India.

I dont believe usa is open to dharmic thoughts at least not now. abrahamic thoughts prevent it from doing so.
bedrock of usa(deepstate) despite its supposed claims of secularims is judeochristianity. never to forget it.
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Any US president from GOP will be comparatively better than a Dem President as for as India concerned. Yes GOP people will be supporting EJ activities etc, but Dems have a inherent hatred towards India. In fact Dems and SD as a whole is more comfortable with any Despotic ruler than any democatic nation particularly when such nation is not US dog like UK.
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"US supplied arms to Pak will definitely be used against India...",said an ex-Paki diplomat.He was referring specifically to US attack helos,etc.,supposedly supplied to fight the Taliban! NO matter which side of the political fence the next US pres. comes from,the anti-Indian attitude of the State Dept. and US establishment,who think that we are only fit to be neo-colonial slaves,will remain.The sooner Mr.Modi and friends realize this sad truth,the better will our relations be.We can then call a spade a spade and take whatever decisions are requited in preserving our own interests.
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Shreeman wrote:
habal,

you are wrong here. the us has been hindered by the distance. china has not. china was a paper tiger until the 90s. And like 47, 62 was a story of the indian political class feeling that a bigger defeat or much more destruction of the army would bring aboult balkanization and lamp posts.

china has much bigger problems with india. it is changing the status quo -- infrastructure that helps encroachment and not just in south china sea. India is scared of even making places like DBO functional or building a road in AP. Forget ordinary people visiting and bringing some transparancy.

Indian foreign relations -- with US, and with china or pakistan are entirely mythical. The maps shown to the population are mythical. The status on the ground is shrouded in secrecy. The number of people dying are not reported. where will you find out about it? In the news? By visiting?

China will shoo off india like it does vietnam and phillipines today. And circles japans islands despite US protection. It is just a matter of another decade.
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India doesn't any more see USA as an equal partner, at best it's a fading power who can provide India with an edge over competition and some new tech. Even without their contribution India will get therr and also get ahead of them. USA has to be content with being a junior partner in any equation with India in future. It has to tuck it's tail and pretty much behave as an Indian vassal to get along with any partnership/relation.
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