Indo-UK: News & Discussion

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 03 Jun 2011 13:20

Sushupti wrote:
Soldier cited for holding off up to 30 Taliban by himself

While stationed as a lone sentry at a checkpoint in Afghanistan's Helmand province on September 17, Pun fended off an attack by up to 30 Taliban fighters.

"There were many Taliban around me," Pun said in an interview with British Forces News. "I thought they are definitely going to kill me. ... I thought before they kill me I have to kill some of them."

During the 15-minute battle, Pun fired more than 400 rounds of ammunition, detonated 17 grenades and a mine and even threw his gun tripod at a Taliban fighter climbing toward his position, according to British Forces News.

"He was just about to climb up there and I hit (him) with my tripod and he fell down again," Pun told British Forces News.

Pun's actions saved the lives of three fellow soldiers at the checkpoint and were the "bravest seen in his battalion over two hard tours in Afghanistan," according to his medal citation.

Pun was not wounded in the firefight.

“That he survived unscathed is simply incredible," his medal citation says. “Throughout Dip’s actions he was under almost constant intense fire. Dip’s courage and gallantry were simply astonishing."

Pun, 31, joined the British military in 2000 and also has served in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Like other Gurkhas, Pun is from Nepal. The Gurkhas were incorporated into British forces after their fighting skill impressed the opposition British during the Nepal Wars of 1814 to 1816. As part of the peace treaty ending that conflict, Gurkhas were admitted into East India Company's army and then into the British military.

Gurkhas recruited solely in Nepal remain Nepalese citizens during their service. Gurkha unit officers are British.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/02/so ... y-himself/

So a Kafir Killed .30 of the Ummah. Wish all Gorkhas are part of the Indian Army and not British Army.
Right now for Gorkha youth , British Army -1st Preference , Indian Army - 2nd Preference.
Right now for

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Jun 2011 13:56

BA only recruit from some districts
and IA from other districts
they don't directly compete for recruits
plus the BA pay and pension (recently) revised will look very attractive to village boys (if they return to Nepal afterwards)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Jun 2011 17:26

he was likely a HMG operator (tripod) who outranged his other three mates (rifles) and was firing somewhat downhill for his grenades to range that far out. the mine must have been a pre-placed claymore thing around the barbed wire cordon the talibs were attempting to cross over. 400 rds => atleast 2 x 200rd boxfed magbelts imo.

all in all a hellacious barrage of fire.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 03 Jun 2011 19:43

^ Singha Ji you really write well..your description gives a vivid pic of what it would really have been like.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 03 Jun 2011 19:49

if you watch the various 'with the troops' videos on youtube - mostly they take up position on top of hills and dig in, or tops of fortified compounds - but the latter are closely surrounded by trees which makes concealed approach much easier. i assume that this episode was at the top of a low hill, well dug in and protected

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 04 Jun 2011 14:34

THINK OF THE VOTES FOR LABOUR

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -risk.html

Johann · Post by **Johann** » 05 Jun 2011 07:33

Lalmohan wrote:if you watch the various 'with the troops' videos on youtube - mostly they take up position on top of hills and dig in, or tops of fortified compounds - but the latter are closely surrounded by trees which makes concealed approach much easier. i assume that this episode was at the top of a low hill, well dug in and protected

Without proper site selection and digging in the right way, without weapons properly ranged and arcs of fire set up you will end up as a glorious but tragic tale. No one wants that.

British outposts in Afgh since 2006 have been built on the assumption they would face massed assault aimed at wiping them out.

The first year in Helmand was bad thanks to ridiculous assumptions on the part of Whitehall and Downing St., but none of the isolated platoon houses out in the Helmand Valley were overrun.

While all of these actions are dramatic and heroic, they also point to which side held the initiative until recently. It takes a lot of money, manpower and macadam to beat an insurgency, and many politicians had eyes bigger than their stomaches and wallets.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 06 Jun 2011 19:06

Universities complacent on Islamists: minister http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... c4acd3.381

LONDON — Britain's universities are complacent in tackling Islamic extremism on campus, the interior minister warned Monday.

Home Secretary Theresa May said universities were not taking the issue of radicalisation seriously enough, in an interview with The Daily Telegraph newspaper.

Her remarks come a day ahead of the launch of the government's revised strategy to stop the growth of home-grown extremists.

"For too long there's been complacency around universities," May said.

"I don't think they have been sufficiently willing to recognise what can be happening on their campuses and the radicalisation that can take place. I think there is more that universities can do."

The Daily Telegraph said the "Prevent" strategy would name 25 British boroughs considered most at risk from extremism, including parts of cities like London, Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds and Bradford.

The broadsheet said the revised strategy would contain details of partnerships with video site YouTube and web portal AOL aimed at combating extremism online, as well as moves to limit access to extremist websites from schools and public libraries.

The Daily Mail newspaper said it had seen the updated strategy, which has identified 40 universities where there could be a "particular risk of radicalisation or recruitment".

"More than 30 percent of people convicted for Al-Qaeda-associated terrorist offences in the UK... are known to have attended university or a higher education institution," the newspaper quoted the report as saying.

Taimour Abdulwahab, who blew himself up in Stockholm in December, studied sports therapy at the University of Bedfordshire, north of London.

Investigators believe Nigerian student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who tried to blow up a US-bound airliner on Christmas Day 2009 with explosives in his underwear, was radicalised while studying at a university in London.

Prevent, adopted four years ago following the July 2005 London bombings, is aimed at countering extreme Islam by supporting mainstream Muslim groups.

May launched a review of the strategy in November, saying it was not working as well as it could. The programme cost £60 million ($100 million, 67 million euros).

May said the government would withdraw funding from around 20 out of 1,800 organisations that have received money over the past three years.

The minister was in northern France on Monday for talks with her French counterpart on tackling illegal immigration.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 06 Jun 2011 23:02

Pro-Khalistan Sikhs in UK march to mark Bluestar

read interesting comments-how many sikhs feel this way?

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 07 Jun 2011 00:05

There is a lot of land in the UK for a 'Khalistan' to be created. It could neighbor the independent homeland of Pakdesh.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 07 Jun 2011 01:50

I have heard of similar march in Canada . Govt should be alert and must make pre emptive plans to avoid any further up rising. Some chanakian move is needed there Clearly making MMS PM hasn't healed the wounds of Sikhs.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Jun 2011 02:54

IndraD wrote:I have heard of similar march in Canada . Govt should be alert and must make pre emptive plans to avoid any further up rising. Some chanakian move is needed there Clearly making MMS PM hasn't healed the wounds of Sikhs.

Not the right thread I know but wounds will only begin to heal once there is closure on the riots cases. Let us take this discussion to some other thread

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 07 Jun 2011 08:53

Tackling terror: UK cabinet nod for crackdown on Muslim NGOs http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 753220.cms

Ashis Ray, TNN | Jun 7, 2011, 12.30am IST

LONDON: British PM David Cameron has prevailed in a hotly debated cabinet review calling for crackdown on moderate and non-violent Islamic organizations to counter terrorism. The details of this policy will be unveiled by home minister Theresa May perhaps as early as Tuesday.

Cameron's press office told TOI that it does not discuss details of cabinet meetings, but did not deny Cameron's pushing through with the new policy. Government sources revealed Cameron had said that even moderate Muslim organisations could be breeding grounds for extremists and a stepping stone to violence. Among those who strongly opposed Cameron's position was Pakistani-origin chairperson of Conservative party, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi. However, she was instructed not to air her disagreement in public.

The strategy, known as 'Prevent', will provide a broader definition of extremism, expanding this to include non-violent NGOs which advocate Sharia law in Britain.

They will now be considered ''un-British''. May's declaration could, in fact, warn Muslim groups that public funding will be withdrawn from them unless they meet more stringent conditions. The head of the Indian Muslim Federation (IMF) in the UK, Shamsuddin Agha, said this was scare-mongering. But he distanced IMF from hardcore Muslims by stressing: ''We're Indian Muslims. Its a different brand of Islam.''

Hitesh · Post by **Hitesh** » 07 Jun 2011 19:29

Raghavendra wrote:Tackling terror: UK cabinet nod for crackdown on Muslim NGOs http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 753220.cms

Ashis Ray, TNN | Jun 7, 2011, 12.30am IST

LONDON: British PM David Cameron has prevailed in a hotly debated cabinet review calling for crackdown on moderate and non-violent Islamic organizations to counter terrorism. The details of this policy will be unveiled by home minister Theresa May perhaps as early as Tuesday.

Cameron's press office told TOI that it does not discuss details of cabinet meetings, but did not deny Cameron's pushing through with the new policy. Government sources revealed Cameron had said that even moderate Muslim organisations could be breeding grounds for extremists and a stepping stone to violence. Among those who strongly opposed Cameron's position was Pakistani-origin chairperson of Conservative party, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi. However, she was instructed not to air her disagreement in public.

The strategy, known as 'Prevent', will provide a broader definition of extremism, expanding this to include non-violent NGOs which advocate Sharia law in Britain.

They will now be considered ''un-British''. May's declaration could, in fact, warn Muslim groups that public funding will be withdrawn from them unless they meet more stringent conditions. The head of the Indian Muslim Federation (IMF) in the UK, Shamsuddin Agha, said this was scare-mongering. But he distanced IMF from hardcore Muslims by stressing: ''We're Indian Muslims. Its a different brand of Islam.''

You missed that above highlighted text. That is extremely important. It completely validates our struggle against Pakistan and the two nation theory. This is very good news.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 07 Jun 2011 19:32

You missed that above highlighted text. That is extremely important. It completely validates our struggle against Pakistan and the two nation theory. This is very good news.

It is no different than Pakis calling themselves Indians here in US.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 13 Jun 2011 01:48

In the Islamic Emirate of Rump England, Held Wales, Occupied Scotland and English-Administered-Ireland...

Police 'covered up' violent campaign to turn London area 'Islamic'

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 13 Jun 2011 04:25

Hitesh wrote:
You missed that above highlighted text. That is extremely important. It completely validates our struggle against Pakistan and the two nation theory. This is very good news.

takkiya.

Hitesh · Post by **Hitesh** » 13 Jun 2011 20:58

I am afraid that I am not familiar with that word, takkiya. Could you enlighten me, please?

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 13 Jun 2011 21:04

Hitesh wrote:I am afraid that I am not familiar with that word, takkiya. Could you enlighten me, please?

From wiki: Taqiyya

...
Taqiyya (alternate spellings taqiya, taqiyah, tuqyah) is a practice emphasized in Shi'a Islam whereby adherents may conceal their beliefs when they are under threat, persecution, or compulsion.[1] This means a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are under those risks. ...

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Jun 2011 21:38

The UK wants to stop aid to India because of India’s “increasing prosperity “and India having a “nuclear programme”.

Monetarily no great shakes if the UK stops the aid but a satisfactory explanation is owed why the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is a continuing recipient of generous aid from the UK despite its “Nuclear Programme” and abysmal nuclear weapon technology proliferation record if this is not to be viewed by us as an attempt by the UK to poke is in the eye:

Aid to India will be stopped, pledges minister

Britain is to stop giving aid money to India, Andrew Mitchell, the International Development secretary has said.

By Christopher Hope, Whitehall Editor

9:00AM BST 13 Jun 2011

The Government has come under pressure to explain why British taxpayers are giving millions to countries like India at a time of public sector cuts.

Mr Mitchell’s international aid budget is one of only two, alongside health, which has been ring fenced and so is protected from the austerity drive.

India has been singled out because of increasing prosperity and the fact that it has a nuclear programme……………………………

The Telegraph, UK

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 13 Jun 2011 22:34

^^^
India should independently return all this aid money from UK, US, etc. including those funds channeled through dubious "Private" organizations. we don't need this supposed generosity. it's a disgrace. it is how we perceive ourselves that matters. when we finally get a man who doesn't bow to this "aid," we'll be on the path of liberation from deracination.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 13 Jun 2011 22:47

devesh wrote:^^^
India should independently return all this aid money from UK, US, etc. including those funds channeled through dubious "Private" organizations. we don't need this supposed generosity. it's a disgrace. it is how we perceive ourselves that matters. when we finally get a man who doesn't bow to this "aid," we'll be on the path of liberation from deracination.

And in return UK should return all the things from the colonial days in the UK museum back to India from the colonial days.

The UK aid funds are actually rent for keeping those artifacts in UK

UBanerjee · Post by **UBanerjee** » 17 Jun 2011 00:41

Old article I came across recently:

Hindus and Jews were barred from trial of Abdullah el-Faisal

This country is really such a crackpot dump.

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 17 Jun 2011 07:03

arun wrote:The UK wants to stop aid to India because of India’s “increasing prosperity “and India having a “nuclear programme”.

Stopping all aid would be highly unlikely, IMO.
Primarily because a lot of the aid is channeled back to UK-stani organisations who help 'administer' the aid, and stopping all of that would mean a lot of gora fat cats feeling very left out.

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 17 Jun 2011 07:07

Panorama faked its report on 'sweatshops' in India.

BBC crisis over 'fake' sweatshop scene in Primark documentary

BBC journalism was plunged into one of its deepest crises since the Hutton report of 2004 yesterday, when the governing BBC Trust questioned the authenticity of footage broadcast by its flagship programme Panorama in an investigation into the ethical standards of the fashion giant Primark.

The director of BBC News Helen Boaden went on the broadcaster's news channel yesterday to apologise after the Trust found that "on the balance of probabilities", footage broadcast in 2008 claiming to show Primark using child labour in India "was not authentic".

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 17 Jun 2011 10:22

stoppage of aid means the gora fat kats living in delhi and mumbai to administer such aid or flying down from london would have to look for new jobs.

oh well, they can skip right on over and administer the british aid to pakistan now

goodbye GK2, welcome mudrike

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 17 Jun 2011 14:26

BBC forced to aplogise to Primark for 'faked' Panorama scenes

The 45-second scene in question showed three boys in Bangalore “testing the stitching” on some clothes. However, they were working on sequinned vest tops which had already been seen in another location – which the Trust deemed “improbable”. The large needles used in the footage – filmed by reporter Dan McDougall – would also be inappropriate for the delicate sequin work, it said. And they felt the tight camera focus on the boys also gave away that the footage was faked.

A video on Primark’s website claims Mr McDougall bought the three sequinned tops from a woman in Tirupur in February 2008. He allegedly sent an email the same day to his Panorama bosses informing them he had filmed children aged between nine and 13 “hand-beading sequinned women’s tops” for Atmosphere, a Primark brand.

But he actually filmed the boys the following day, 300km away in Bangalore, as exposed by the date code on the footage.

Primark tracked down the boys, who claim that he asked them to “move your hand on this” to make it look as though they were working on the garments. “This shows he planned to fake the footage,” the video claims.

Last night the BBC issued a statement saying it accepted there were “serious breaches in its editorial procedures in the preparation of the programme”.

The probe won the Royal Television Society’s award for home current affairs in 2009. The RTS said it “went the extra mile to lay bare the whole chain from refugee camp to high street rail”.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 24 Jun 2011 06:03

Meanwhile in English-Administered-Ireland...

Second night of riots in Northern Ireland

Hundreds involved in sectarian clashes and police vans attacked in worst violence in Belfast in years.

ranjbe · Post by **ranjbe** » 24 Jun 2011 18:30

Another story by a Paki Brit in Dawn about cousin marriages among Paki Brits:

This story is based on true events. British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population. Modern day genetic testing could only screen for 40 per cent of these conditions. If you would like more information on genetic conditions visit http://www.geneticalliance.org.uk/

http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/24/a-cursed-lineage.html

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 24 Jun 2011 20:27

India must express its deep shock and concern at the religious communal violence in Northern Ireland, put UK on a human rights watchlist, call for a urgent UN conference to discuss the rights and freedoms being trampled by british security forces and offer to send a group of peacekeepers and mediators since the warring parties obviously have not displayed the democratic maturity to resolve their dispute as civilized nation in decades.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 24 Jun 2011 20:44

^^^ warring parties have been at it since the 1690's
battle of the boyne
its high time the UN intervened!

UBanerjee · Post by **UBanerjee** » 25 Jun 2011 00:01

ranjbe wrote:Another story by a Paki Brit in Dawn about cousin marriages among Paki Brits:
This story is based on true events. British Pakistanis are 13 times more likely to have children with genetic disorders than the general population. Modern day genetic testing could only screen for 40 per cent of these conditions. If you would like more information on genetic conditions visit http://www.geneticalliance.org.uk/

http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/24/a-cursed-lineage.html

Everything about this society is sick.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 25 Jun 2011 01:55

Prasant wrote:
arun wrote:The UK wants to stop aid to India because of India’s “increasing prosperity “and India having a “nuclear programme”.
Stopping all aid would be highly unlikely, IMO.
Primarily because a lot of the aid is channeled back to UK-stani organisations who help 'administer' the aid, and stopping all of that would mean a lot of gora fat cats feeling very left out.

Economist 2011 said that India is going to refuse aid from UK this year. So they knew that India going to do this..............now they are showing that UK want to stop it

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 29 Jun 2011 02:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQWaBbURlY&NR=1

though suuited more for nukkad, wanted to share with more audience...

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 30 Jun 2011 16:30

"Shocking report reveals one in four accused of 'street grooming' is Asian"

Asian!!! do they mean Chinese/Japanese??

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1Ql4j91Ay

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 30 Jun 2011 19:06

At the level of government and trade/business, there is considerable cordiality, but if you look at the British media, and articles and comments by British individuals( like the one in the TOI recently advocating an independent Nagaland) there is a lot of pricking of India. Kashmir, visas for Pakistanis and the situation on the Indo-Bangladeshi border are favourites of the British media, to criticise India. Perhaps the British media feels inadequate, in front of the massiveness of India, or they simply latch on to something to create controversy and sell newspapers.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 30 Jun 2011 20:16

Varoon Shekhar wrote:At the level of government and trade/business, there is considerable cordiality, but if you look at the British media, and articles and comments by British individuals( like the one in the TOI recently advocating an independent Nagaland) there is a lot of pricking of India. Kashmir, visas for Pakistanis and the situation on the Indo-Bangladeshi border are favourites of the British media, to criticise India. Perhaps the British media feels inadequate, in front of the massiveness of India, or they simply latch on to something to create controversy and sell newspapers.

it is the trappings of the elite colonial mind, unable to square with the fact that they are poodles now.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 05 Jul 2011 15:39

Calculating Britain's Debt to India

A Letter from Austin
Arun Kumar
September 1997

In the 1870's Dadabhai Naoroji, later twice President of the Indian National Congress, estimated that Britain was bleeding India at the rate of three to four million pounds per year. Or was it thirty to forty million? I need to check on that. Anyway let's stick with the lesser amounts for now. Average those to 3.5 million pounds per year. Assume that that sum was constant from 1857 to 1947. Assume further that the British looted a paltry 1 million pounds per annum from 1767 to 1856. Assume a 7.875% rate of annual interest compounded yearly. That must be a good rate because that is what I'm paying through the initial years on the adjustable-rate mortgage on my house. Then we calculate

Sum_{n = 1997 - 1767}^{n = 1997 - 1856} (1.07875)^n +
3.5 * Sum_{n = 1997 - 1857}^{n = 1997 - 1947} (1.07875)^n = (0.07875)^(-1) [(1.07875^231 - 1.07875^141)
- 3.5 * (1.07875^141 - 1.07875^50)] million pounds.

That works out to about 521,000,000,000,000 pounds, to be divided between India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Interest is currently accruing at the very serious rate of 41,000,000,000,000 pounds per annum. I haven't included damages, and interest thereon, for the Bengal famine, the Jallianwallah Bagh, and other like injuries. I haven't even included "gifts" like the Koh-i-noor. How much must we Indians have loved George V (or was it Billy XVII? Saala mammary no work today.) to have given him a nice gift like that to stick with glue on his gold crown! And where he stole gold and glue?
On the basis of the current populations of India (946 million), Pakistan (140 million), and Bangladesh (119 million), unless we wish to make this a class action, India's share is 409 trillion pounds. That would give every Indian 400,000 pounds. And even after that disbursement there would still be about 31 trillion pounds left over for the benefit of great Indian con-artistes like SR to stuff their ceilings, their pillows, their mattresses, and their Swiss bank accounts with. The Swiss appear to live rather comfortably off other peoples' loot. What a deal!

My friend Tim Willis (his wife, Dixie, is Irish-american. No love British much either) asked me if nobody had ever estimated how much the British looted from India. Therefore I respond with this humble first-order estimate. Any refinements welcome. Tim wondered if the World Court could not be moved to ask the British to pay up, say by the year 2000. Any bets?

Ram Ramarao suggests that Indian economists should be preparing accurate estimates of how much the British looted. He says that if American economists can do environmental economics and place dollar values on the non-extinction of whales, and clean and unclean air, etc., then it should be a peach to figure out exactly how much the British looted. Of course, those estimates should also cover "gifts" and damages.

It will be good to keep the estimates handy, even if no collection mechanism appears obvious today. There may come a day when there is big gun hanging from India's belt, and that sort of thing has the miraculous property of making the impossible possible. Not for nothing did the Indian princes quietly sign on the dotted line under a statement of the "doctrine of lapse" that decreed that their kingdom would pass to the British if they had no surviving male offspring. Maybe Prince Dody and Princess Diana's high-speed ascent to a higher plane is the sign we have all waited for.

By the way, the Smithsonian did not publish my letter. The Queen of England wrote to the Editor and promised him some loot to hush it all up. That is such a behud ghatiya magazine!

Waiting for my 1,600,000 pounds (there's four of us here, counting our two ABCD's)
Arun Kumar

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 05 Jul 2011 16:38

Rony wrote:Calculating Britain's Debt to India

A Letter from Austin
Arun Kumar
September 1997

In the 1870's Dadabhai Naoroji, later twice President of the Indian National Congress, estimated that Britain was bleeding India at the rate of three to four million pounds per year. Or was it thirty to forty million? I need to check on that. Anyway let's stick with the lesser amounts for now. Average those to 3.5 million pounds per year. Assume that that sum was constant from 1857 to 1947. Assume further that the British looted a paltry 1 million pounds per annum from 1767 to 1856. Assume a 7.875% rate of annual interest compounded yearly. That must be a good rate because that is what I'm paying through the initial years on the adjustable-rate mortgage on my house. Then we calculate

Sum_{n = 1997 - 1767}^{n = 1997 - 1856} (1.07875)^n +
3.5 * Sum_{n = 1997 - 1857}^{n = 1997 - 1947} (1.07875)^n = (0.07875)^(-1) [(1.07875^231 - 1.07875^141)
- 3.5 * (1.07875^141 - 1.07875^50)] million pounds.

That works out to about 521,000,000,000,000 pounds, to be divided between India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. Interest is currently accruing at the very serious rate of 41,000,000,000,000 pounds per annum. I haven't included damages, and interest thereon, for the Bengal famine, the Jallianwallah Bagh, and other like injuries. I haven't even included "gifts" like the Koh-i-noor. How much must we Indians have loved George V (or was it Billy XVII? Saala mammary no work today.) to have given him a nice gift like that to stick with glue on his gold crown! And where he stole gold and glue?
On the basis of the current populations of India (946 million), Pakistan (140 million), and Bangladesh (119 million), unless we wish to make this a class action, India's share is 409 trillion pounds. That would give every Indian 400,000 pounds. And even after that disbursement there would still be about 31 trillion pounds left over for the benefit of great Indian con-artistes like SR to stuff their ceilings, their pillows, their mattresses, and their Swiss bank accounts with. The Swiss appear to live rather comfortably off other peoples' loot. What a deal!

My friend Tim Willis (his wife, Dixie, is Irish-american. No love British much either) asked me if nobody had ever estimated how much the British looted from India. Therefore I respond with this humble first-order estimate. Any refinements welcome. Tim wondered if the World Court could not be moved to ask the British to pay up, say by the year 2000. Any bets?

Ram Ramarao suggests that Indian economists should be preparing accurate estimates of how much the British looted. He says that if American economists can do environmental economics and place dollar values on the non-extinction of whales, and clean and unclean air, etc., then it should be a peach to figure out exactly how much the British looted. Of course, those estimates should also cover "gifts" and damages.

It will be good to keep the estimates handy, even if no collection mechanism appears obvious today. There may come a day when there is big gun hanging from India's belt, and that sort of thing has the miraculous property of making the impossible possible. Not for nothing did the Indian princes quietly sign on the dotted line under a statement of the "doctrine of lapse" that decreed that their kingdom would pass to the British if they had no surviving male offspring. Maybe Prince Dody and Princess Diana's high-speed ascent to a higher plane is the sign we have all waited for.

By the way, the Smithsonian did not publish my letter. The Queen of England wrote to the Editor and promised him some loot to hush it all up. That is such a behud ghatiya magazine!

Waiting for my 1,600,000 pounds (there's four of us here, counting our two ABCD's)
Arun Kumar

We should take this to the international court of justice as a test case.

Bleed the blighters dry

and let the sun set for ever on their benighted empire.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 06 Jul 2011 00:16

Dewsbury, Bradford and Tower Hamlets ... where Islamic extremists want to establish independent states with sharia law

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1RGCpB1j3

The Indian government must make this a top priority. They can lecture the British the way Milliband tried to in Mumbhai