Re: Pakistani Economic Stress Watch
Posted: 21 Nov 2019 07:59
They see their nearness to the bottom as a massive problem for the world. If they were doing OK, no one would care. This takes a unique Paki attitude.
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CheersISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday directed expeditious release of $14 billion stuck up foreign loans against the ongoing development projects.
CheersKARACHI: Petroleum refineries in Pakistan are facing a new crisis as rapidly declining furnace oil prices are denting their profit margins while they are searching in vain for potential buyers of the oil.
ArjunPandit Ji :ArjunPandit wrote:yes thats a miracle how a economically insolvent nation state can survive so long on a baksheesh..as someone on BRF said (pls feel free to take credit) that they're bad indians and they will always find a way to survive...
I will say they're virus, they will mutate but unless completely annihilated they can't be killed
Arjun Pandit Ji :ArjunPandit wrote:if you were in paki satellite al bartania..i would have treated you for a beer for this news.......
It was easy for NaPak to wash off their hands with non-state actor bullsh*t. The cost and burnt was born by India only. But in the new India, the cost and burnt are born by both sides. Modi has certainly increased the cost of terrorism for NaPak, I truly believe it is still not optimal. But it is a good start, we have to keep increasing the pressure until either NaPak is denuclearized after nuke break the backbone of NaPak or complete Ladakh is reunited with india. Topping on the cake will be if there are some independent nations.Kashi wrote:Their economy was in dumps when they instigated Kargil.
Poor state of economy has not stopped them from instigating Uri, Pathankot, Pulwama, Nargota.
Wasn't some minister asking people to start making Tiddi (Locust) Biryani, Tiddi Korma, Tiddi keema, etc?Vips wrote:
Mashallah 40% of crop hallaled by Locusts in Porkistan.
Pakistan has defeated the locusts as it could not consume the other 60%
Comments : Either may or might not also possibly restore!ISLAMABAD: After a gap of almost four years, the World Bank has decided to restore Pakistan’s budgetary support and may approve a $500 million loan to bring improvement in fiscal management and harmonise sales tax across the country.
WASHINGTON: The Trump administration has urged Pakistanis to ask tough questions to China on the China Pakistan Economic Corridor, as a top American diplomat launched a blistering attack on the multi-billion dollar project which the official claimed is going to take a toll on Islamabad's economy.
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Actually locust storm came over from la la lands of puredoms ie Saudi ME so it's not a cause to hate hindoo.Vips wrote:Yes the minister was following Bhutto who had asked the Puki awam to eat grass and locusts belongs to the grass (hopper) family.
China loot Pakis and WB gives loans to Pakis. Isn't there something wrong there ie WB should take more loans from China for this.
you mean another perception victory....Vips wrote: Mashallah 40% of crop hallaled by Locusts in Porkistan.
Pakistan has defeated the locusts as it could not consume the other 60%
i have been told that it is a very good source of protein...waiting for pakis to come up with those arguments..anyways it might not be haram..after all their ancestors would not have imagined that such a day would ever befall the progenyVips wrote:Yes the minister was following Bhutto who had asked the Puki awam to eat grass and locusts belongs to the grass (hopper) family.
Check out Tiddi Biryani.ArjunPandit wrote: i have been told that it is a very good source of protein...waiting for pakis to come up with those arguments..anyways it might not be haram..after all their ancestors would not have imagined that such a day would ever befall the progeny
Peregrine wrote:World Bank restores Pakistan’s budgetary support - Shahbaz Rana
vishvak Ji :vishvak wrote:China loot Pakis and WB gives loans to Pakis. Isn't there something wrong there ie WB should take more loans from China for this.
disha wrote:Check out Tiddi Biryani.ArjunPandit wrote: i have been told that it is a very good source of protein...waiting for pakis to come up with those arguments..anyways it might not be haram..after all their ancestors would not have imagined that such a day would ever befall the progeny
in my college days, i met an organic prof who was part of group that worked on this problem through the use of pheromones to change the direction of travel of locust advance..being a bob dylan fan, he did not forget to quote 'the answer is blowing in the wind'.vishvak wrote:Locust problem debrief - what happened
Manish-P Ji :Manish_P wrote:Cos there are a lot of plonkers and dipsticks in the rest of the world, bruv
Nothing wrong with Tiddi Biryani. As John the Baptist ate it and as all prophets of Christianity are accepted, I guess Locusts are halal. Do they have to be killed in the Islamic way? Only a Mullah can tell.disha wrote:Check out Tiddi Biryani.ArjunPandit wrote: i have been told that it is a very good source of protein...waiting for pakis to come up with those arguments..anyways it might not be haram..after all their ancestors would not have imagined that such a day would ever befall the progeny
ArjunPandit Ji :ArjunPandit wrote:^^now please dont tell me that it also happens to be the manna food that was given to jews...and after that pakistanis will be able to find the way out of the deserts to sanity
The money to WB comes from everyone else including India and goes to China via pakilands.Cause where this Money comes from is a mystery, It's like the changing of the seasons and the tides of the sea - But here's the one that's driving me berserk, Why should the Chinese , the IMF and World Bank FOR TERRORISTAN work?
13% for a short term debt of 3-months is very very high. If you park $100k in Baki treasury, you will get $113k in 3 months. Risk is only for 3 months.Peregrine wrote: Financial and Economist Garus : When a Foreign entity buys i.e. pays Terroristan Government for Debt then who eventually pays whom when the three-month treasury bills MATURE?
Wow! 13% for 3 months? Are you sure that’s not the APR? Otherwise it’s a 52% APR which should be illegal. Just think FATF blacklisting would have been beneficial to TSP as it would get their macro economic house in order.Peregrine wrote:disha Ji :
Many many thanks!
This reminds me of the Pathan Money lenders in Bombay. They would always tell their "Debtors" - usually Textile Mill Workers who were worried about their Debt - "Kuchi Hum Ko Sara Paisa Nahin Chahiye, Hum ko Siraf Bayaj Day Do!"
So I now understand - thanks to you - the whole "Operation"
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A couple of Porki economists (Ashfaq Hassan and one more with surname of Bangali) have been crying hoarse on puki talk show channels for nearly six months now that all the strategy that the ex world bank employees who are Finance Minister and chief of the Paki state bank have is to raise the interest rates so that foreign funds are parked in govt securities. These funds are hot money which will stay till they get high interest which no government can pay for long and will leave as soon as the interest rates go down and the country suffers another crisis.disha wrote:13% for a short term debt of 3-months is very very high. If you park $100k in Baki treasury, you will get $113k in 3 months. Risk is only for 3 months.Peregrine wrote: Financial and Economist Garus : When a Foreign entity buys i.e. pays Terroristan Government for Debt then who eventually pays whom when the three-month treasury bills MATURE?
It indicates that nobody is loaning any money into Bakistan for a longer term. Say 5, 10 or 30 year. All debt is short term debt. This is unhealthy.
1. This is basically speculation money. If you are a money manager of an emerging market debt fund (that is your investments are in buying sovereign debt of emerging markets like Pakistan, India or Thailand) and your assets are greater than $10 Billion (there are dozens of such mutual funds in US), then putting money in Bakistan is a good Q4 window dressing. Invest in September, take the money out in November/December and your year end returns look good. Great for your mutual fund.
2. It is the beepul of Bakistan jhammuriyat who are paying this debt. In effect Bakistan is in a debt trap . They will sell additional debt next quarter to service this debt. The current debt some of it goes to run the economy and some of it goes back to service previous debt. At every point, the interest rate creeps up slowly. If the world economy improves, Bakistan has to pay more interest rate! Since others will go after less riskier, higher return.
This is a light bulb moment for me
To the eternal question on why the west is supporting Bakistan? Well Bakistan is the drug addict which is taking more and more and more of debt. As long as the debt is serviced, Bakistan will be kept in a limbo state. It will slowly impoverish itself.
Money bags in UK, ME, US - all of them want to give debt to Bakistan and get as much return out of it. $1 Billion debt for 3 months for Bakistan is miniscule. But think about it, Bakistan will owe $130 million on it in next 3 months. There is no way Bakistan can invest in its own infrastructure and return 13% growth in 3 months. So the next debt has to service the above debt.
Now I remember what my moneylender friend was doing to me. He was never interested in getting the principal. He was only interested in making sure I pay the interest regularly. Even when I had money to pay the principal, my moneylender friend actually loaned me more money to help me buy a new dog to terrorize the neighbor. I thought he was helping me, such a good friend and money lender he was!
CheersKaiser Bengali has also described the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) as a product of the new"East India company".