Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Apr 2013 05:55

nachiket wrote:
nawabs wrote:Modi to address 15 poll conventions in Karnataka

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/k ... 581287.ece
Karnataka is a lost cause. The paid media is going to milk this for all it's worth and brand this as Modi's failure after the elections.

Nothing of that sort will happen. Please watch this space. Just be patient for another month.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Apr 2013 06:12

RamaY wrote:Spoke with a family member in AP who has good pulse on Aam-admi preferences.

Until a few weeks ago he used to say YSRCP will win majority MLA as well as MP seats. He used to say 'so what' when I raise the question of YSJ's corruption and his Christian base. He used to say who is not appeasing to minorities and who is not corrupt when he used to talk about public perception.

Today when I asked about the prospect of YSRCP, he says people are losing interest in them big time. The new wave is Modi and everyone will be swept away in that. He also says probably CBN will make a pre-poll arrangement with NM (overtly or covertly) so CBN can win local while NM take the center stage.

People are responding to NaMo's Bharatiya vision.

I noticed that too. But PAID MEDIA is in the hands of CON MAFIA and they will do everything to destroy Modi's image but people are not listening. That's why PAID agents are so frustrated

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Apr 2013 06:14

RamaY wrote:
nachiket wrote:Karnataka is a lost cause. The paid media is going to milk this for all it's worth and brand this as Modi's failure after the elections.
Nothing of that sort will happen. Please watch this space. Just be patient for another month.

keep my fingers crossed. If you are right, I will send you a bottle of wine (or box of sweets if you don't drink) where ever you are ...

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Apr 2013 06:28

Modi Vs Gandhi

Good article, and this is this million-dollar question in everyone's minds:

Why is a man like RahulG, who is reluctant to take on any responsibility, doesn’t want any accountability, is not seeking to be PM and doesn’t even think he can solve any problems being touted as a contestant against Narendra Modi? If Modi were the Apple, it’s not even an Orange to Apple comparison it’s a Peanut to Apple comparison which no sensible person would ever make. This is quite intriguing.

Rahul Gandhi is just a decoy to make the country believe it’s NaMo V RaGa. It is not!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Apr 2013 06:32

Arjun wrote:Modi Vs Gandhi

Good article, and this is this million-dollar question in everyone's minds:
Why is a man like RahulG, who is reluctant to take on any responsibility, doesn’t want any accountability, is not seeking to be PM and doesn’t even think he can solve any problems being touted as a contestant against Narendra Modi? If Modi were the Apple, it’s not even an Orange to Apple comparison it’s a Peanut to Apple comparison which no sensible person would ever make. This is quite intriguing.

Rahul Gandhi is just a decoy to make the country believe it’s NaMo V RaGa. It is not!

I read all of that. Excellent

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Apr 2013 06:46

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editori ... 585411.ece

Here is the anti-national, Chinese puke news paper makes of PAPPU's speech

In the season of electoral hardsell, Rahul Gandhi has chosen to portray his party, government and himself as they are, warts and all. Not surprisingly, the pundits are tearing their hair: What could be the strategy behind a potential Prime Minister telling his voters not to entertain any hopes from him? Indeed, there were puzzling aspects to Rahulspeak, the platform for which was provided by India Inc. The Congress vice-president made no business pitch to the captains of industry as might have been expected of a political leader newly appointed to a strategic position in the ruling party. No invitation to invest, no assurances to ease the red tape, and no pleas for support. If this was odd, odder still was the Congress second-in-command’s refusal to woo the electorate with the kind of largesse and promises mandatorily handed out ahead of a critically important general election. Rahul’s speech was like a soliloquy: it was as if he was throwing questions at himself, exploring his own dilemmas, doubts and weaknesses and concluding that perhaps there were no answers.

Rahul might have been a philosopher contemplating the mysteries of the world rather than a hard-nosed politician fighting to save his battered party and government from the prospect of defeat. To put it another way, he might have been a Congress malcontent wishing doom on the UPA government. How else could one explain his assertion that if Manmohan Singh was expected to “solve our problems, it is not going to happen?” The VIP politician critiqued the existing system for closing its doors on the ordinary people with their phenomenal capabilities but offered no roadmap for their future inclusion in decision-making. If there is a method in this seeming madness, it can only be that Rahul is consciously playing the outsider to escape the misdeeds of a regime of which he is a part. Admittedly he holds no post in government. But the Congress has ruled India the longest, and the Nehru-Gandhi clan has given us three Prime Ministers. And though Sonia Gandhi passed up the opportunity to be the fourth on the list, she is widely viewed as the power behind Prime Minister Singh’s shaky throne. So it stretches credulity that Rahul should speak as if he were a disenchanted voter angered and fatigued by the government’s remoteness from his everyday problems. On the other hand, sacrifice and aloofness are qualities that have proved in the past to be attractive to the Indian polity. The more the clan members run away from power and position, the more apparently their mystique. But can detachment by itself deliver votes when the competition is in the form of a very determined Narendra Modi?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Apr 2013 07:13

The contrasting ideas of Modi (who proved no riots and no appeasementI and dangerous, communal Fiberal crooks (Left, Mamta and CON goondas) could not be more different.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a- ... epage=true

It is worrying that West Bengal’s political class remained tactical spectators to the Kolkata rally organised by Muslim groups in support of Bangladeshi war criminals

West Bengal looked to the Shahbag protests in Dhaka with hope. In 1971, a massive relief and solidarity effort was undertaken in West Bengal for the millions trying to escape a veritable genocide. The then leaders of the Jamaat-e-Islami in East Bengal and its students wing organised murder and rape squads in collaboration with the Pakistani forces. Their crimes included mass murder, rape as a weapon of war, arson and forced conversions. Post-1975, generals used them to cast an Islamic veneer of legitimacy over their illegal capture of power. Their immunity lasted until the present Bangladesh government restarted the legal proceedings in the War Crimes tribunal. The Shahbag protests demanded maximum punishment for the guilty.

SHOCKING

In West Bengal, a few meetings have happened around Shahbag, mostly expressing support. But, shockingly, the largest was a massive rally held in Kolkata on March 30, explicitly against the Shahbag protests and in support of the war criminals already convicted. Various Muslim groups, including the All Bengal Minority Council, the All Bengal Minority Youth Federation, the Madrassa Students Union, the Muslim Think Tank and the All Bengal Imam Muazzin Association, organised the rally. People arrived in buses from distant districts of Murshidabad and Nadia, as well as from neighbouring districts. Students of madrassas and the new Aliah Madrassa University were conspicuous at the gathering.

The old rallying cry, “Islam is in danger in Bangladesh,” was heard. We heard a similar cry in 1952 during the mother-language movement, in 1954 when Fazlul Haq and Maulana Bhashani challenged the Muslim League, in 1969 when the Awami League made its six demands and during the 1971 liberation struggle — basically during every secular movement for rights and justice. The rally thundered that West Bengal would be “cleansed” of supporters of war crimes trial and the present Prime Minister of Bangladesh. They promised that political forces supporting Shahbag would be “beaten with broom-sticks” if they came asking for Muslim votes. Like Taslima Nasreen and Salman Rushdie, Sheikh Hasina would not be allowed inside Kolkata. They expressed solidarity with the anti-Shahbag “movement” in Bangladesh. This assertion is worrisome, as the anti-Shahbag forces in Bangladesh have initiated a wave of violent attacks on Hindus, Buddhists and secular individuals, and the destruction of Hindu and Buddhist homes, businesses and places of worship. Amnesty International documented attacks on over 40 Hindu temples as of March 6. That number has increased.

A collapse in the Muslim vote was important in the Left Front’s demise. Muslim divines regularly remind the present government of this. The Trinamool Congress wants to ensure a continued slice of this vote. In an unprecedented move, the government handed out monthly stipends to imams and muezzins to build a class of Muslim “community leaders” who eat out of its hand. The debt-ridden, vision-deficient government is unable to solve the problems that are common to the poor. It has wooed a section of the marginalised on the basis of religion by selective handouts. These are excellent as speech-making points masquerading as empathy. This also gives fillip to forces whose trajectories are not under usual political control.

This is not NEW. When these bloody scums call inclusive, this is what they mean! Freebies to looters and mullahs. The ITALIAN MAFIA and LEFTISTS terrorists are all same.

The Left Front’s political fortune stagnated after 2011. It has cynically chosen not to strongly oppose this communal turn. Waiting for the incumbent to falter is its roadmap to power. The damage this is doing to the West Bengal’s political culture is possibly irreparable. The incumbent’s connivance and the opposition’s silence are due to the long-eroded tradition of democratic political contestation through grassroots mobilisation. Both deal with West Bengal’s sizeable minority population primarily via intermediaries, doing away with any pretence of ideology in the transactions.

POLITICS OF BLACKMAIL

Organisations inspired by political Islam have used this disconnect to the hilt to blackmail the government. An emerging bloc of divines, and former and present student leaders have used students and youths as storm troopers at short notice. Sadly, they are unconcerned about life and livelihood issues of Muslims. With assistance from the Left Front regime, they drove out the persecuted humanist writer, Taslima Nasreen. The extent of their clout as blackmailers was evident from the government’s pro-activeness in keeping Salman Rushdie out of Kolkata, after his visit to Bangalore, New Delhi and Mumbai. This pushing of the envelope fits into a sequence of events that is increasingly stifling the freedom of expression. The double-standards are clear.

The bye-election to Jangipur, a Muslim-majority Lok Sabha constituency, saw the combined vote of the two main parties fall from 95 per cent in 2009 to 78 per cent in 2012. The beneficiaries were the Welfare Party of India, a thinly-veiled front organisation of the Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, and the Social Democratic Party of India, a similar group. “Tactical pluralism” is their game, a concept quite akin to the tactical defence of Taslima’s freedom of speech by Hindu communal political forces. The rally in support of war criminals has exposed this faux pluralism.

There was another significant beneficiary in the same election — the Bharatiya Janata Party. Communal tension has been rising, with serious disturbances in Deganga and Canning. Sensing a subterranean polarisation, the majoritarian forces see an opportunity. Mouthing banalities about Bengal’s “intrinsically” plural culture is useless. Culture is a living entity, recreated every moment. It is being recreated by the victimisation discourse by fringe groups like Hindu Samhati and in certain religious congregations where unalloyed poison produced by divines like Tarek Monawar Hossain from Bangladesh is played on loud-speakers. Thanks to technology, vitriol produced in a milieu of free-style majoritarian muscle-flexing in Bangladesh reaches West Bengal easily. Hence the popularity of one of the convicted war criminals, Delwar Hossain Sayedee, who in his post-1971 avatar had become a superstar in the Bengali waz-mahfil circuit.

Well. Just to make sure that Fiberals don't attack them, the author has to some how bring BJP into conversation

A day after the anti-Shahbag rally in Kolkata, almost as a divine reminder of starker realities beyond the defence of Islam, nearly 45 lakh unemployed youth, Hindus and Muslims, sat for the primary school teachers’ recruitment examination for 35,000 posts. Clearly, the ‘minority’ employment exchange set up by the incumbents has failed. West Bengal has petitioned the Centre for a relaxation of the minimum qualifications for primary school teachers.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Apr 2013 08:11

Time for some keyboard activism.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Apr 2013 09:41

Looks like some Internet Hindu did ghost writing for Shekhar Gupta.

National Interest: Not enough, Boss
Shekhar Gupta : Sat Apr 06 2013, 03:11 hrs

"Woh kahat hain dui Bharat ban gawa (he says two Indias have come into being)," said the farmer, half-squatting and leaning on a lathi.

"And what do you think about this," we asked him.

" Hum kahat, sahib (we say, sir), that of the 60 years of Independence, for 53 years you have ruled us and created two Indias." Then, with a defiantly mischievous twinkle that you see in the eyes of the poorest Indians only during an election, he added, "and we say, sahib, that if we gave you five more years, how can we trust you not to divide us into three Indias now. "

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/natio ... /1098442/0

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 06 Apr 2013 09:46

Yama .

he is lord of dharma.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 06 Apr 2013 09:56

Two things in the story of NaMo childhood which people opposing him should note.
1. While he was a small boy the Bhagava flag on the top of the temple in the middle of the water tank on Vadnagar is to be changes with new one. The water tank was having crocodiles and yet he swam to water tank fighting with crocodiles and replaced the flag with new one.
2. When all his family members went for attending a marriage he has chosen to remain back to to serve a sadhu with food etc.

He is therefore not afraid to do what he thinks correct and what he thinks correct is the not based on current “values” but firmly rooted in the ancient Indian wisdom. Such fearless people are very difficult to stop.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 06 Apr 2013 10:20

Btw that Shekar Gupta article is a lie. An intellectual masturbation. It may please us and appeal to our intellectual side, but that omelette eating turd made this up while sitting in his AC room. The language that he attributes to being spoken on Bihar, you may find that in Varanasi or Jaunpur or maybe a little west and not in Bihar. He is making that up.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Apr 2013 10:25

fanne wrote:Btw that Shekar Gupta article is a lie. An intellectual masturbation. It may please us and appeal to our intellectual side, but that omelette eating turd made this up while sitting in his AC room. The language that he attributes to being spoken on Bihar, you may find that in Varanasi or Jaunpur or maybe a little west and not in Bihar. He is making that up.

Good point!!. Awadhi is not spoken in Bihar. But my point is Kutta has started rotating himself like a sun flower to the movement of sun.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 06 Apr 2013 10:29

^^What will I do without you guys

, one can't trust even a word these paid media hacks say. They take the word forked tongue to a new level. I think we have the worst media in the world, at least in other countries you know when you hear propaganda.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 06 Apr 2013 10:44

fanne wrote:Btw that Shekar Gupta article is a lie. An intellectual masturbation. The language that he attributes to being spoken on Bihar, you may find that in Varanasi or Jaunpur or maybe a little west and not in Bihar. He is making that up.

+1, I am from Jaunpur & can instantly make out the lanuage has some "phony" touch to it, it is not "Theth" boli.

Shekhar Dupatta hack jobs been exposed several times on BRF. But over the years he has established good contacts with DIE elites, including appearances in Filmfare awards opening as "respected" Jornalist with "in-depth knawlidge"

of Indian society.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 06 Apr 2013 10:45

Sushupti wrote:Pappu is smarter than his semi-literate Mom.

Son outdoes mom on big-stage debut
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130406/j ... V9jxqLmGVo

The farticle is written by dienasty backside-licker Sanjay Jha. Folks would do best to give it a miss please.

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 06 Apr 2013 11:00

B-I-L plays tennis with Sanjay Jha. He is insufferable IRL too, according to him.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Apr 2013 11:05

A list of how Congress leaders define Narendra Modi

So the latest adjective used for Mr. Modi is Yamraj. Congress spokesperson in Delhi Mr. Alvi used this word to describe Mr. Modi yesterday in Delhi. Here is a quick look on a series of offending adjectives used for Mr. Modi by Congress and others. Have they been successful to stop his rise using such language? Not so far.

Maut Ka Saudagar: Congress Chief Sonia Gandhi told Modi a Maut Ka Saudagar in her 2007 Gujarat election campaign speech. Modi picked up this line and started reacting to it in every single campaign rally. Congress lost the elections very poorly. Watch video

Snake, Scorpion, dirty man: Senior Congress leader and Rajya Sabha MP Manishankar Aiyar in March 2013, in reaction to Modi’s speech in Delhi said that Modi is a snake, scorpian, a dirty man. Read

Ravan:Digvijay Singh was on Ahmedabad visit to see his hospitalized son-in-law who was MLA then just before the Gujarat election season last year. In a brief talk to a TV channel camera, he described Modi as Ravan. Digvijay saw Ravan in Modi in connection with Modi’s 3D holographic presence in various rallies at one time. Read

Gandi Nali ka kida: Gujarat Congress’s then prabhari BK Hariprasad described Modi as ‘Gandi Nali ka kida’ in perhaps 2009. Read

Lahu purush, Paani purush, Asatya ka saudagar: These all were the words to describe Modi used by senior Congresss leader and MP Manishankar Aiyar in election rally in November 2012 in Gujarat. Read

Ghanchi: Congress MP from Surendranagar Soma Ganda Patel made casteist remark on Modi during an election rally in November 2012. Modi is Ganchi by caste which is part of Other Backward Class (OBC). Read

Monkey, victim of rabies: Gujarat Congress President Arjun Modhwadia compared Narendra Modi with monkey in his election rally speech in October 2012. Modhwadia also said that Modi is infected with rabies. Later Election Commission of India reprimanded Modhwadia for his objectionable remarks.Read

Mouse: During the 2012 Gujarat election campaign, Congress Rajya Sabha MP Hussain Dalwai, speaking at a rally in Palanpur in North Gujarat, said “Modi is just a mouse before Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel”. So Modi was compared to mouse.

Dawood Ibrahim: In March 2012 then Congress spokesperson Manish Tiwari compared Modi with Dawood Ibrahim. Read

Failed husband:Gujarat Congress President Arjun Modhwadia in his election campaign speech in November 2012 started speaking about Modi’s personal life in election rallies. He raised questions on Modi’s marriage life in bad taste. Election Commission of India sent him a notice and reprimanded later. Read

Modern-day Nero: In 2004 then SC Judge Arijit Pasayat called Modi a modern-day-nero. Pasayat was made head of a newly formed tribunal within a fortnight of his retirement. Read

Badtamiz, Nalayak, who is his father? Mother?: In 2009 Lok Sabha campaign rally, Congress leader Rizwan Usmani described Modi as Badtamiz, Nalayak and asked who is Modi’s father? Who is his mother? Read

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/04/06/a-lis ... ndra-modi/

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Apr 2013 11:09

Dileep Padgaonkar, one of the Jesters in the court of the Clown Prince - attempts to decode the 'wisdom' behind his master's low-IQ ramblings:

NaMo And RaGa are as chalk and cheese

What is remarkable about Rahul Gandhi's narrative, on the other hand, is that it is rooted in four several self-evident truths. One, that divisive politics is a hindrance to economic growth. Two, that economic policies that fail to address the aspirations of a vast majority of our people — the poor and the middle classes — can only be counterproductive. Three, that our system of governance must be democratised to enhance its effectiveness. And four, that government, business and civil society must work together collectively, much like a beehive, for the sake of a resurgent India.

While the points above are just as much unmitigated idiocy that they seem on first glance - I thought it important to have this summary be put up so we can have the folks who operate on the same wavelength as Pappu on this forum (eg Vina and Theo Fidel) decode the wisdom for us when time permits for them.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 06 Apr 2013 11:51

Isnt the pAdganonkar guy associated Nabi Fai?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 06 Apr 2013 12:22

Neela wrote:Isnt the pAdganonkar guy associated Nabi Fai?

Right Neela ji :

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1568690/r ... un-kashmir

http://www.mediacrooks.com/2011/07/fai- ... V_KmjfJJPE

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Apr 2013 12:37

Published on Apr 06, 2013
Assembly polls: Modi skips BJP meet, may not campaign in Karnataka: PTI

Disclaimer: PTI would of course put their own spin on it!

One comment

Eshwarappa & Anant kumar are trying their best to bring NAMO (Modi) for campaigning, because Eshwarappa knows that his defeat is certain as Yaddy vowed that he will do every thing to defeat Eeshy, and everyone knows the strength of Yaddy in Shimoga dist.

Anant has handpicked many of his cronies and has given ticket. some of them are rich Marwadis like Surana & Patwaari and also few Telugu businessmen, and now he is afraid of their defeat and losing face. So this Shakuni Mama wants Na-Mo-dy to come and save his crooked grin.

A question: in the last Gujarat elections 2012, were there many "Central" level BJP leaders who campaigned for Modi? If they did, can one make the excuse that after an incumbent government it is for state-level leaders to answer to the electorate and not for Central leaders to intervene?

Just trying to understand how much blame Modi would get if the BJP loses the election in Karnataka if he does campaign and how much the BJP cadre would be disenchanted by him if he doesn't!

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 06 Apr 2013 12:37

Vijay Goel, the Delhi CM candidate of BJP : "We will fight the 2014 elections under the leadership of Advani ji"

http://inagist.com/all/320432650949103616/

These (hutiy@s will confuse voters & snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This pandu can't even win a single vote & yet is the CM candidate. Delhi assembly is anyway lost, but does this idiot also wants BJP to lose India?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Apr 2013 12:43

This is the guy, as per Madhu Kiswar, used to charge few lakhs Rs per person for arranging photo op with Vajpayee.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 06 Apr 2013 12:46

vijayk wrote:
A collapse in the Muslim vote was important in the Left Front’s demise. Muslim divines regularly remind the present government of this. The Trinamool Congress wants to ensure a continued slice of this vote. In an unprecedented move, the government handed out monthly stipends to imams and muezzins to build a class of Muslim “community leaders” who eat out of its hand. The debt-ridden, vision-deficient government is unable to solve the problems that are common to the poor. It has wooed a section of the marginalised on the basis of religion by selective handouts. These are excellent as speech-making points masquerading as empathy. This also gives fillip to forces whose trajectories are not under usual political control.
This is not NEW. When these bloody scums call inclusive, this is what they mean! Freebies to looters and mullahs. The ITALIAN MAFIA and LEFTISTS terrorists are all same.

To be honest this happens (at country level) because of BJP's own indecisive nature towards Hindutva and Nationalism. The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side. There are parties all over jumping and falling over to appease muslims. So muslims will naturally go out and poll in unison to the one who gives them most. Whereas Hindus are left to choose from their own caste. Had BJP maintained their policy towards Hindutva, I bet the voters would have come over their caste based politics and voted for Hindutva. We saw this happening during Babri times. BJP came to power in the name of Ram but after coming to power they did not build the temple. They sweared by the name of Bhagvan Ram

. Remember the slogan - Saugandh Ram Ki Khate Hai, Ham Mandir Wahi Banayenge (we swear by the name of Ram, we will build the temple at that very place)! I was among the huge mass who chanted this swear and was thoroughly disappointed by the inaction of BJP when in power. And over the period of time they completely gave up the Hindu idea. Hence the losses in 2004 and 2009 and at the state level.

IMO if BJP maintained their Hindutva agenda, there would have been lot of parties who just sheerout of competition would have cared for Hindus as well. At least they would think twice before appeasing muslims. But in recent times there was no real opposition to this appeasement. Even BJP is scared of pissing muslims by opposing these appeasements. No wonder there is no stopping to this appeasement. And LKA has been a disaster since babri.

There is little support to the dynasty across the country. There has always been anti congi and pro nationalistic mindset in India. Even in the pre independence era the nationalistic Hinduvadis were there in good numbers. RSS was the base for them. Even Nehru was unpopular among (true) intellectuals of that time. But the problem has always been the same. No one wanted the votes of Hindus.

If an honest survey is done across India, we can find that the core reason behind people's love for NM is that he is pro Hindu. Development comes second. Just imagine what would WB's Hindus be thinking by didi's such act quoted by vijayk. Now what choice the voters have about this? Just remove NM from the equation and think whom WB's Hindus will vote to? There is really no one who wants Hindu's votes! The so called political pundits just don't get this simple equation that there is a huge mass waiting to vote them but there is no taker

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RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Apr 2013 12:57

Published on Apr 5, 2013
By R Jagannathan
Will Modi herald a rightward shift in India’s economic thought?

So what is Modi’s real economic philosophy? In an interview to The Economic Times last year, Modi made many observations that offered clear clues to this thinking.

He said: “The government has no business to be in business. It should play the role of a facilitator. In my state, investors don’t have to grease the palm of politicians or bureaucrats. There are well laid-out policies. I believe that the country can progress only if we end red tapism. No red tape, only red carpet, is my policy towards investors.”

What could be clearer than this?

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 06 Apr 2013 12:59

It would have been a master stroke if the first BJP government had fallen trying to create the Ram mandir. They should have ept tabling the resolution in the parliament, irrespective of how many times their government fell until Hindus of this country would have given them 270+. Then with a majority, they could have done everything they wanted to do - 371, UCC, Ram mandir, Krishna Janmbhoomi, Gyanvapi etc etc. They lost a big chance there and I doubt Hindus are willing to rally behind a cause like RJB anymore. Anyway, a cause like RJB is itself hard to come.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 06 Apr 2013 13:11

kapilrdave wrote:
To be honest this happens (at country level) because of BJP's own indecisive nature towards Hindutva and Nationalism. The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side. There are parties all over jumping and falling over to appease muslims. So muslims will naturally go out and poll in unison to the one who gives them most. Whereas Hindus are left to choose from their own caste. Had BJP maintained their policy towards Hindutva, I bet the voters would have come over their caste based politics and voted for Hindutva. We saw this happening during Babri times. BJP came to power in the name of Ram but after coming to power they did not build the temple. They sweared by the name of Bhagvan Ram . Remember the slogan - Saugandh Ram Ki Khate Hai, Ham Mandir Wahi Banayenge (we swear by the name of Ram, we will build the temple at that very place)! I was among the huge mass who chanted this swear and was thoroughly disappointed by the inaction of BJP when in power. And over the period of time they completely gave up the Hindu idea. Hence the losses in 2004 and 2009 and at the state level.

IMO if BJP maintained their Hindutva agenda, there would have been lot of parties who just sheerout of competition would have cared for Hindus as well. At least they would think twice before appeasing muslims. But in recent times there was no real opposition to this appeasement. Even BJP is scared of pissing muslims by opposing these appeasements. No wonder there is no stopping to this appeasement. And LKA has been a disaster since babri.

There is little support to the dynasty across the country. There has always been anti congi and pro nationalistic mindset in India. Even in the pre independence era the nationalistic Hinduvadis were there in good numbers. RSS was the base for them. Even Nehru was unpopular among (true) intellectuals of that time. But the problem has always been the same. No one wanted the votes of Hindus.

If an honest survey is done across India, we can find that the core reason behind people's love for NM is that he is pro Hindu. Development comes second. Just imagine what would WB's Hindus be thinking by didi's such act quoted by vijayk. Now what choice the voters have about this? Just remove NM from the equation and think whom WB's Hindus will vote to? There is really no one who wants Hindu's votes! The so called political pundits just don't get this simple equation that there is a huge mass waiting to vote them but there is no taker .

CAPS LOCK ON DELIBERATELY;

FROM THE WHOLE MASS OF POSTS THAT I HAVE READ AROUND THESE PARTS, THIS ONE PREDICTS THE POLL FORTUNES OF BJP THE MOST CORRECTLY.

Someone move it to the Collection of good posts thread.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Apr 2013 13:42

Published on April 06 2013
By Sanjay Kaul, spokesperson for the BJP at Delhi
The Message for 2014: Daily Pioneer

Even as things stand, the party’s first priority remains the acquisition of Lok Sabha seats in a range that outpaces the Congress as the single largest contender. Alliances have a habit of forming themselves and consolidating around the best fits, which in turn in our first-past-the-post system invariably comes down to numbers. The question about a declared PM candidate will continue, owing mostly to the proclivities of analysts and content hungry media but that is unlikely to queer the pitch for the BJP. The organisational DNA of the party will not allow any unilateral decision on the issue in a hurry and whether to declare a candidate or not will also rest heavily on the posture of allies, competitive parties and politics, the timing, strategy and tactics.

Having that figured, the BJP will need to focus on the real work at hand of securing a majority that puts it in the centre of government formation. Irrespective of how we look at it, the message is clear. Modi has become the talisman for a new, resurgent BJP and if he can lead the party to a win, everything is possible.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 06 Apr 2013 14:13

Chandragupta wrote:It would have been a master stroke if the first BJP government had fallen trying to create the Ram mandir. They should have ept tabling the resolution in the parliament, irrespective of how many times their government fell until Hindus of this country would have given them 270+. Then with a majority, they could have done everything they wanted to do - 371, UCC, Ram mandir, Krishna Janmbhoomi, Gyanvapi etc etc. They lost a big chance there and I doubt Hindus are willing to rally behind a cause like RJB anymore. Anyway, a cause like RJB is itself hard to come.

Certainly they can't even utter the word RJB now. But they can still raise the recent issues of muslim terrorism, bangladeshi muslims etc. Call me a Hindu fanatic but I find even NM less interested in Hinduism and more in economics these days. In Guj he has not done any particular favor to Hindus (godhra was not a favor). But I think he is practicing his Raj Dharma very well which is good enough for me. But what he is making sure is that even local congis speak Hindu language 24X7. You will not find a single statement of any GJ congi neta puking anti Hindu venom. In next GJ election even if congi somehow manage to win the state, they will not dare to do anything that is anti Hindu. This is how I want BJP to be. Strong and assertive about Hinduism and nationalism. Rest all will fall in line.

Added later: Similar to GJ, I think we will find less and lesser anti Hindu venom as election comes closer. Who would have thought that Ra-hole Gandu will include Bhagvad Gita, Ganga, Yamuna and Saraswati in his Bhashan.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 06 Apr 2013 14:30

kapilrdave wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:It would have been a master stroke if the first BJP government had fallen trying to create the Ram mandir. They should have ept tabling the resolution in the parliament, irrespective of how many times their government fell until Hindus of this country would have given them 270+. Then with a majority, they could have done everything they wanted to do - 371, UCC, Ram mandir, Krishna Janmbhoomi, Gyanvapi etc etc. They lost a big chance there and I doubt Hindus are willing to rally behind a cause like RJB anymore. Anyway, a cause like RJB is itself hard to come.
Certainly they can't even utter the word RJB now. But they can still raise the recent issues of muslim terrorism, bangladeshi muslims etc. Call me a Hindu fanatic but I find even NM less interested in Hinduism and more in economics these days. In Guj he has not done any particular favor to Hindus (godhra was not a favor). But I think he is practicing his Raj Dharma very well which is good enough for me. He is making sure that even local congis speak Hindu language 24X7. You will not find a single statement of any GJ congi neta puking anti Hindu venom. In next GJ election even if congi somehow manage to win the state, they will not dare to do anything that is anti Hindu. This is how I want BJP to be. Strong and assertive about Hinduism and nationalism. Rest all will fall in line.

I tend to agree with that. From the looks of it, unless somebody here has access to the man himself, it seems like Modi is not really a Hindutva person i.e. in the mould of Hindutva that has more fans here at BR (including moi). He looks as if he leans right because he is 100% ~~secular~~ dharmic while the opposition is Left-Islamo-Christist. I don't think in the perfect scenario, Modi would be a right wing leader.

He may not explicitly do favors to Hindus and honestly, we don't want that, but he instills a sense of pride in the karmabhoomi & openly projects & propagates desi culture which in itself is a victory for Hindus. In my opinion, he is not the person who will take the fight to Islam & Christianity but Islamists & Evanjehadis. He also looks capable of Indianizing Islam & turning India into a dharmabhoomi for Indian Muslims. Apart from that, I don't think Modi will do anything and more importantly, apart from this, I doubt the Hindus have stomach for - currently.

If Modi is not elected in the next LSE and we get another 5-10 years of Congress rule, then the idea of Modi will cease to be relevant. In 2024 elections, we will need a Savarkar, not Modi.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 06 Apr 2013 14:43

+1000 but we need someone like him for now. He has a dharmic background we may not be all we need. Hell no one can be. Savarkar even found faults with Shivaji(not coverting captured muslim women into Hindu etc) but that will come later. We also need to understand that since 1947 we are being poisoned by INC and its present criminal avathar. It takes lot of efforts to get back to normal state of being world best economy. We need to remember we first need capabilities which I am sure BJP under NaMo will give and intentions of Savarkar kind can in brough in and implimented once capabilities are there in place.

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 06 Apr 2013 14:49

The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side.

Hindus had a choice during independence between openly pro-Hindu Savarkar and Hindu Mahasabha and openly pro-Muslim Gandhi and his gang such as Nehru. The choice was most critical as that would decide the future path India would take after independence. Any idea why Hindus rejected Savarkar and chose Gandhi if the IQ of Hindus is so strong? Why did they chose people as leaders who always took the side of Muslims in any confrontation between Hindus and Muslims?

No one wanted the votes of Hindus.

On the contrary, Savarkar and other Hindu leaders campaigned hard, telling Hindus to support them in elections as they could then negotiate with Muslims to protect Hindu interests. But Hindu Mahasabha got defeated decisively in elections and all votes of Hindus went to Congress who was openly batting for Muslim interests.

Even Jinnah knew this. He once asked someone: "If I am the leader of Muslims, who is the leader of Hindus?" The someone answered: "Nehru." Jinnah laughed. He said the leader of Hindus was neither Nehru nor Gandhi but Savarkar. Jinnah could comprehend this, but Hindus couldn't and voted Nehru to power.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 06 Apr 2013 14:54

Chandragupta wrote:
I tend to agree with that. From the looks of it, unless somebody here has access to the man himself, it seems like Modi is not really a Hindutva person i.e. in the mould of Hindutva that has more fans here at BR (including moi). He looks as if he leans right because he is 100% ~~secular~~ dharmic while the opposition is Left-Islamo-Christist. I don't think in the perfect scenario, Modi would be a right wing leader.

Not saying that I have access to the man, but can safely say that Hindutva runs through his veins (hint: I belong to RSS family). It's just that he has transformed into development man citing his Raj Dharma which I think is good. Just like Bhagvan Ram chose to leave Sita Mata citing Raj Dharma even though he loved her so much. Hidutva is not about suppression of any religion anyways. But yes, I agree that if Modism fails, next is Dara Sing not Savarkar. Savarkar was too soft

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 06 Apr 2013 15:00

^^ in 2014 if NaMo fails to form a government, chances for which are 50-50 at the moment, then loyal supporters of idea of India-First like me will again rally behind Modi till we see him as PM of India in 2019!!

What is the age of NaMo?

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 06 Apr 2013 15:00

^^ Propaganda Machine of the British Raj Did the job and the confused Hindus are still behind Gandhi-Nehru 'sickular' maya duniya..

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 06 Apr 2013 15:09

http://www.samachar.com/BJP-celebrates- ... eebcf.html

BJP celebrates foundation day; Rajnath Singh expected at Narendra Modi's function

Ahmedabad/New Delhi: For Narendra Modi, who has ruffled many feathers by saying that he wants to "repay the debt to Mother India," this seems to be the season to show gratitude.

Days after Rajnath Singh singled him out to become the only chief minister on the BJP's parliamentary board - a group of the party's top 12 decision makers - Mr Modi will fete the BJP president and demonstrate to him his clout at a massive function to celebrate the party's 33rd foundation day.

The Chief Minister has reserved the Sardar Patel stadium on the banks of the Sabarmati river in Ahmedabad, which he will fill with about one lakh supporters this evening. All party workers from the district level up in the state have been invited.

Mr Rajnath Singh is the only national leader that Mr Modi has invited. The BJP president will return the favour. Though the party's foundation day is being celebrated in several BJP-ruled states, Mr Singh will only attend the one in Ahmedabad, after being present at a function in Delhi. His presence today is being seen as a strong signal of the special place that Mr Modi has in the party, despite it not committing yet on what role he will play in the 2014 elections.

The Gujarat Chief Minister's functions have for the longest time been about one man - Narendra Modi. But after his elevation to a national role in party affairs, he is not singing "ekla cholo re." The Sardar Patel stadium has been dressed with huge photographs of the party's biggest leaders including Shyama Prasad Mookherjee, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and LK Advani.

At the six gates of the stadium, photos of senior leaders of the Gujarat BJP have found place, a rare occurrence at a Modi event.

Last weekend, Mr Modi was appointed not only to the BJP's parliamentary board, but also the election committee that will devise the party's campaign strategy for the 2014 Lok Saha elections and assembly elections in four key states. The Gujarat Chief Minister skipped the very first meeting of the election committee called to discuss the Karnataka polls scheduled to be in May this year.
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So, that is the reason for skipping the CEC meet, not what ~~Katju~~ Kaddu wants to convey

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 06 Apr 2013 15:17

varunkumar wrote:
The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side.
Hindus had a choice during independence between openly pro-Hindu Savarkar and Hindu Mahasabha and openly pro-Muslim Gandhi and his gang such as Nehru. The choice was most critical as that would decide the future path India would take after independence. Any idea why Hindus rejected Savarkar and chose Gandhi if the IQ of Hindus is so strong? Why did they chose people as leaders who always took the side of Muslims in any confrontation between Hindus and Muslims?

No one wanted the votes of Hindus.
On the contrary, Savarkar and other Hindu leaders campaigned hard, telling Hindus to support them in elections as they could then negotiate with Muslims to protect Hindu interests. But Hindu Mahasabha got defeated decisively in elections and all votes of Hindus went to Congress who was openly batting for Muslim interests.

Even Jinnah knew this. He once asked someone: "If I am the leader of Muslims, who is the leader of Hindus?" The someone answered: "Nehru." Jinnah laughed. He said the leader of Hindus was neither Nehru nor Gandhi but Savarkar. Jinnah could comprehend this, but Hindus couldn't and voted Nehru to power.

+1!
Exactly, the venom was set in from the start. Nehru learnt from the British how to divide and rule the population. After independence, there was no longer a "single enemy" as before (Brits). So they had to create one. But how do you create one out of thin air? Hence he decided to start dividing hindus based on caste - remember the widespread anti-brahminism?. Hindus were foolish enough to fall for this. We are paying for it even today and will continue for generations to come. A friend of mine who has links to BJP says even RSS has gone quiet these days. Until this realisation dawns upon people, they will continue down this path, and i fear that by the time they realise, it will be too late.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 06 Apr 2013 15:23

varunkumar wrote:
The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side.
Hindus had a choice during independence between openly pro-Hindu Savarkar and Hindu Mahasabha and openly pro-Muslim Gandhi and his gang such as Nehru. The choice was most critical as that would decide the future path India would take after independence. Any idea why Hindus rejected Savarkar and chose Gandhi if the IQ of Hindus is so strong? Why did they chose people as leaders who always took the side of Muslims in any confrontation between Hindus and Muslims?

In my original post I said that in pre independence era (and including the time of independence) there were good number of Hindutvavadis and nationalists. They were not in majority. I was trying to prove the point that from the beginning we have had a set of people who would want a nationalistic government and opposed congis.

Those times were very different than today's. Just getting the freedom was more than enough. It was a daunting task to run this huge country and many predicted a failure.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 06 Apr 2013 15:43

vijayk wrote:
A collapse in the Muslim vote was important in the Left Front’s demise. Muslim divines regularly remind the present government of this. The Trinamool Congress wants to ensure a continued slice of this vote. In an unprecedented move, the government handed out monthly stipends to imams and muezzins to build a class of Muslim “community leaders” who eat out of its hand. The debt-ridden, vision-deficient government is unable to solve the problems that are common to the poor. It has wooed a section of the marginalised on the basis of religion by selective handouts. These are excellent as speech-making points masquerading as empathy. This also gives fillip to forces whose trajectories are not under usual political control.
This is not NEW. When these bloody scums call inclusive, this is what they mean! Freebies to looters and mullahs. The ITALIAN MAFIA and LEFTISTS terrorists are all same.

kapilrdave wrote:
To be honest this happens (at country level) because of BJP's own indecisive nature towards Hindutva and Nationalism. The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side. There are parties all over jumping and falling over to appease muslims. So muslims will naturally go out and poll in unison to the one who gives them most. Whereas Hindus are left to choose from their own caste. Had BJP maintained their policy towards Hindutva, I bet the voters would have come over their caste based politics and voted for Hindutva. We saw this happening during Babri times. BJP came to power in the name of Ram but after coming to power they did not build the temple. They sweared by the name of Bhagvan Ram . Remember the slogan - Saugandh Ram Ki Khate Hai, Ham Mandir Wahi Banayenge (we swear by the name of Ram, we will build the temple at that very place)! I was among the huge mass who chanted this swear and was thoroughly disappointed by the inaction of BJP when in power. And over the period of time they completely gave up the Hindu idea. Hence the losses in 2004 and 2009 and at the state level.

IMO if BJP maintained their Hindutva agenda, there would have been lot of parties who just sheerout of competition would have cared for Hindus as well. At least they would think twice before appeasing muslims. But in recent times there was no real opposition to this appeasement. Even BJP is scared of pissing muslims by opposing these appeasements. No wonder there is no stopping to this appeasement. And LKA has been a disaster since babri.

There is little support to the dynasty across the country. There has always been anti congi and pro nationalistic mindset in India. Even in the pre independence era the nationalistic Hinduvadis were there in good numbers. RSS was the base for them. Even Nehru was unpopular among (true) intellectuals of that time. But the problem has always been the same. No one wanted the votes of Hindus.

If an honest survey is done across India, we can find that the core reason behind people's love for NM is that he is pro Hindu. Development comes second. Just imagine what would WB's Hindus be thinking by didi's such act quoted by vijayk. Now what choice the voters have about this? Just remove NM from the equation and think whom WB's Hindus will vote to? There is really no one who wants Hindu's votes! The so called political pundits just don't get this simple equation that there is a huge mass waiting to vote them but there is no taker .

Posted in collection of good posts.

Thumbs up to your post.

A previous post of mine:

The party under its President Lal Krishna Advani galvanized the nation with various rath yatras and succeeded in awakening the Hindu identity.

On 6 December 1992, hundreds of VHP and BJP activists broke down an organized protest into a frenzied attack, and razed the mosque. Over the following weeks, waves of violence between Hindus and Muslims erupted in various parts of the country, killing over 1000 people. The VHP was banned by the government, and many BJP leaders, including L.K. Advani were arrested briefly for provoking the destruction. Although widely condemned by many across the country for playing politics with sensitive issues, the BJP won the support of millions of conservative Hindus, as well as national prominence.

Victory in assembly elections of Delhi in 1993 and Gujarat and Maharashtra in March 1995, and a good performance in the elections to the Karnataka assembly in December 1994, propelled the BJP to the centerstage. During the BJP session at Mumbai in November 1995, BJP President L.K. Advani declared that Vajpayee would be the Prime Minister of India if the BJP won the next parliamentary elections scheduled for May 1996. In that election, the BJP emerged as the single largest party in the Lok Sabha and Vajpayee became Prime minister.

The chronology of the events clearly shows that BJP won because it supported RamjanmaBhoomi(and Advani played prominent role, rather than Vajpayee). Vajpayee's role was important in collecting allies, and not in getting votes or seats.

Before 1992, BJP was irrelevant in national politics. Vajpayee was the president of the party from 1980-86. And the party achieved nothing spectacular during this period. It was Advani and his rath-yatra that put BJP in limelight.

But, BJP was not able to solve the Ramjanmabhoomi issue in Hindu's favor during their reign. This was a huge negative. Even today, notice that Congs use this a criticism(i.e. inability to construct a huge temple for Lord Ram at His birth place by BJP during their reign). The Congs insinuate that BJP is only interested in getting votes in the name of Ram, but not really serious about the issue.

Once BJP came to power, it slowly gave up on hindutva and tried to 're-invent' itself by giving up its core ideology. It seems to me that Vajpayee led from the front on this aspect.

This change would have led to the defeat in the next election itself. They were saved by 'Kargil'.
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On 13 October 1999, the BJP-led NDA riding on a wave of popularity, following victory in the Kargil war and the charisma of Vajpayee, won 303 seats. The BJP alone had its highest ever tally of 183.
Charisma varisma is exaggerated. The fact of the matter is that people support incumbent Govt during the war. It is seen as national duty. The same phenomenon happened in that election.

In the next election, BJP tried to win on the plank of 'India Shining'(i.e. on the back of its Governance and Economy) completely relegating Hindutva. BJP faced defeat. By giving up on Hindutva, BJP becomes just another party(which alienating it from its core voter group). I know of people who voted to congress just to teach a lesson to BJP not to give up on Hindutva.

The same theme continued in the next election, where BJP tried to target a weak PM on terrorism (i.e. appealing to nationalism) Advani 'confessed' of crying when Babri was demolished trying for a secular image-makeover. Everyone knows the result of that attempt. He not only lost the support of his core voters but also lost credibility. What would have been if he had instead, again taken up the cause of Hindutva? It is anybody's guess... (But, the popularity of Modi may contain answers to that.)

Now, who is the favorite of all BJP voters and cadres? Modi! Is it only because of his governance and administration? It is known to everyone. Modi's good governance and administration is a bonus. But even before these were evident, he already earned a huge following(of fans and haters). This is the vital point. Even today, if Modi tries to excessively 're-invent' himself, then he will lose many of his fans. He knows it, his opponents know it. Thats why they are asking him to apologize for Post-Godhra riots(and repeat Advanisque blunder). (Notice that even Godhra is related to Ramjanmabhoomi issue because the Karsevaks returning from Ayodhya were burnt alive by the muslim mob in Godhra and as a reaction the riots started.)

BJP's attempts to 're-invent' itself at national level have failed miserably. And, I believe they are doomed to fail. People have a simple logic: "if BJP is going to follow the same path as Cong, then why do we need a BJP?"

BJP's unique selling point is: Hindutva. If it gives up on it, then it can shut its shop. Yes, one can think of better packaging the core ideology, but not giving it up. In fact, today, there is much larger audiences to Hindutva compared to 2004(thanks to the policies of UPA).

Notice that BJP has been unable to gain foothold in newer states after its initial surge. This again is because of relegating Hindutva. So, BJP has now been reduced to fanning sub-regionalism to gain foothold in the newer states.(Eg: AP->Telangana. BTW, Ramjanmabhoomi got phenomenal response in AP and BJP could have built on this if it continued in the Hindutva path).

Anyway, I think too much is being made out of Republican loss. I wonder what people would have said when Bush won a second term?! Were Democrats finished that they could not defeat Bush jr(even after his misadventures)?

I think it takes two terms(approx.) for the full affects of anti-incumbency to take hold. After the first term, the affects of anti-incumbency are not complete, so the incumbent Govt can scrape through(sometimes). And this is what happened in US elections. But, in the next elections, the opponents win a landslide. I would 'worry' for the future of Republicans if they lose third time consecutively. Otherwise, this defeat is par for the course.

Anyway, the voters of democrats seem to be in a uneasy tactical alliance which may not last very long. The voters of democrats come from various backgrounds with differing ambitions and needs. In fact, one group may be opposed to another(on certain issues). The only thing that is keeping them together is their collective opposition to white dominance and/or christian fundamentalism. Given such conditions, I am not sure this alliance of the various segments of society is going to last long.

We can already see that popular vote is almost equally divided. By the next term, the affects of anti-incumbency would be complete and Republican can comeback. If they don't, then they may have to think about changing some of their policies.

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Indeed, BJP should have dared to solve the RJB in Hindu's favor, and if in the process the Govt fell, then people would have given a bigger mandate. The BJP did the reverse, they completely abandoned what brought them on to the national stage.

I don't think RJB has ceased to be an issue. It is still an issue. But, a believable face/org. needs to take it up. Modi is rightly placed to take up the issue, perhaps when he tries for his second term...

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varunkumar wrote:
The people of India are not fool. Hindus are not fool. It is just that there is no one who will actually take their side.
Hindus had a choice during independence between openly pro-Hindu Savarkar and Hindu Mahasabha and openly pro-Muslim Gandhi and his gang such as Nehru. The choice was most critical as that would decide the future path India would take after independence. Any idea why Hindus rejected Savarkar and chose Gandhi if the IQ of Hindus is so strong? Why did they chose people as leaders who always took the side of Muslims in any confrontation between Hindus and Muslims?

No one wanted the votes of Hindus.
On the contrary, Savarkar and other Hindu leaders campaigned hard, telling Hindus to support them in elections as they could then negotiate with Muslims to protect Hindu interests. But Hindu Mahasabha got defeated decisively in elections and all votes of Hindus went to Congress who was openly batting for Muslim interests.

Even Jinnah knew this. He once asked someone: "If I am the leader of Muslims, who is the leader of Hindus?" The someone answered: "Nehru." Jinnah laughed. He said the leader of Hindus was neither Nehru nor Gandhi but Savarkar. Jinnah could comprehend this, but Hindus couldn't and voted Nehru to power.

Votes for what? Brits transferred the power to Nehru and Jinnah. Thats that. Where do Hindus come into the equation. Brits recognized Gandhi as the representative of Indians/Hindus and kongress as the representative of Indians/hindus. Brits recongnized Jinnah as the representative of muslims and ML as representative of muslims. It was a deal between these people. No one else comes into the equation. Hindus, certainly, are no where in this equation.

Hindus were influenced by the prevailing propaganda of that time. Anyway, I think the popularity of these figures is being over-estimated. Most of the Indians, I think, were not really aware of the actual stands of these figures.

After independence, Nehru wiped out all the competition and created a sycophantic environment. Most of the contemporaries of Nehru had died or retired early into Nehru's tenure. People were exposed to ceaseless propaganda. Nehru was projected in a larger than life image. It is this propaganda that seems to have deified Gandhi and Nehru in India. Nehru's image took a beating with 62. And that created situation for the end of his long raj.