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Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 01 Aug 2014 07:52
by partha
Surasena wrote:Muslims in action in France, a prosperous European country (for those who think "economic growth" will stop Islamic behavior):

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=734351429943993
A few years back when Algerian Muslim immigrants rioted in the streets of Paris destroying cars and shops, I remember reading an article which talked about how even Police don't dare to go into some areas of Paris. Seeing this video reminded me of that article.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 01 Aug 2014 15:17
by Paul
^^THey are force multipliers for India and China. Cant wait to see this happening in Michigan and New York

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 01 Aug 2014 15:17
by anupmisra
KJoishy wrote:Does anyone know why France allowed so many uncivilized barbarians into their country? At least our excuse is that we didn't let them in, they broke in like rats.
Residents of French territories and colonies have had a right to reside in France up to a certain date. For example, citizens of Pondicherry have a right to take up French residency. Many do serve in the French army. According to wiki Click ici:
a little known “law, passed in 1961 [article 21-19(5º)], enables people from former French territories to apply for immediate naturalisation
Another way is to serve five years in the French Foreign Legion. That's how many Algerians. Moroccans, and natives of West Africa got to France.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 01 Aug 2014 21:17
by shravanp
Disturbing news making rounds on teetar regd RoP'ers ransacking Jain mandir in Erode.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 02 Aug 2014 19:41
by KJo

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 02 Aug 2014 21:26
by RoyG
KJoishy wrote:
Surasena wrote:Muslims in action in France, a prosperous European country (for those who think "economic growth" will stop Islamic behavior):

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=734351429943993
Does anyone know why France allowed so many uncivilized barbarians into their country? At least our excuse is that we didn't let them in, they broke in like rats.
The same reason we let them into ours. Vote bank. They all vote for those secular/socialist/liberal idiots. :lol:

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 15:46
by Neela

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 18:17
by Singha
and precisely the same kind of things will happen in certain parts of the india if the state govts and deep state actors at the center continue to play with the devils.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 18:20
by Neela
Singha wrote:and precisely the same kind of things will happen in certain parts of the india if the state govts and deep state actors at the center continue to play with the devils.
"Will happen"?
I am afraid you are mistaken Sir.
We already saw a RoPer behead his wife & take it to police station in dear WB. From last year or 2 years back.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 20:17
by Singha
yes I remember that video, but that was more like a individual act of 'penance' than a well organized mob warfare / group conspiracy like we see in UP now.
its a matter of time before ISIS style executions of kafirs take to being popular if the state police are told to look the other way by 'friendly' state govts.

one of the root cause issue is most troublemakers among muslims, even the relatively educated emigrants to other lands think of kafir women as 'whores' because they work, move around and try to lead a normal life, than live under the burqa. I guess they have even found some divine sanction in some aged scroll about feasting on minor age girls also.
http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/1655-2/

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 21:05
by Singha
Meerut victim says was confined in madrasa with 50 other women and plan was to send them to saudi for flesh trade.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 21:14
by krisna
^^^^
similar to this, another in kerala about children also recently.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 21:15
by krisna
Neela wrote:
Singha wrote:and precisely the same kind of things will happen in certain parts of the india if the state govts and deep state actors at the center continue to play with the devils.
"Will happen"?
I am afraid you are mistaken Sir.
We already saw a RoPer behead his wife & take it to police station in dear WB. From last year or 2 years back.
nitpick--
the killer killed his sister whio married person not approved by his family. she had eloped ironically with another muslim.
she wa also pregnant ~3-4 mts.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 04 Aug 2014 21:26
by KJo
Islam is just criminal ideology under the burqa of religion. It;s also been hijacked by crazy mullahs who have tasted power. They can pull any crap out of their musharraf, link to the Quran and you have 1000s of idiot Abduls rushing to comply. It must be a rush to have that kind of power.

Why does Islam appeal to criminals in jails? Because it panders to the sense of being wronged that these people have, and gives them divine sanction to all their criminal activities. You can do more of this as long as you bow to Allah. This is a very attractive religion to bums, rapists and murderers. Sab galati maaf. I don't think any other religion lets you get away this easily, least of all Indic religions.

My own Muslim friends would gloat about their "conquest" of goris, but then get all pious and indignant about Palestinians.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 05 Aug 2014 06:33
by akashganga
KJoishy wrote:Islam is just criminal ideology under the burqa of religion. It;s also been hijacked by crazy mullahs who have tasted power.
Islam has not been hijacked by mullahs. Actually mullahs follow the true islam. It is the moderate muslims who live normal lives just like kafirs and who are friendly to kafirs have hijacked islam for their selfish ends. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 05 Aug 2014 07:34
by Singha
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/NAT-TO ... 2-NOR.html

Jammu: An eight year old girl was allegedly beheaded by her father in Poonch district of Jammu & Kashmir on Sunday.

The father of the girl reportedly beheaded her because of a family feud.

According to Shamsher Hussain, the Senior Superintendent of Police, the body of minor girl named Masarat Naz was recovered from outside her home in Gharana village.

Hussain said that the girl was murdered and her body was thrown outside her home. Gharana village falls under tehsil Mendhar in poonch district.

As per preliminary investigation, there is internal family feud responsible for the incident, the SSP said.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 05 Aug 2014 09:28
by Sachin
krisna wrote:similar to this, another in kerala about children also recently.
As per latest investigations, chances of the kids getting exported to the Middle East is very remote. But these kids were brought in large numbers in order to get more grant from the state government. One orphanage which had a school as well, recently got more Plus 2 batches alloted to it. I feel the orphanages do that perhaps to increase foreign donations as well. Any way the kids being herded to Kerala is obviously not keeping charity in mind alone.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 05 Aug 2014 09:49
by arun
Singha wrote:Meerut victim says was confined in madrasa with 50 other women and plan was to send them to saudi for flesh trade.
Link from Hindustan Times to go with the story of 20 year old Hindu woman teaching Hindi and English at a Mohammadden religious school aka Madrassah, being forcibly converted to Mohammaddenism and then gangraped near Meerut. No mention of Saudi Arabia flesh trade angle though:

Meerut on edge after gang-rape of teacher

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 05 Aug 2014 23:38
by SBajwa
A question to Mr. Sina!

Dear Mr. Sina,

One of my friends whom I know from a Polish discussion board (he’s a Roman Catholic) claims that Islam has absolutely no respect of work and prefers plunder as a source of wealth. He claims that trade is the only normal source of income not frowned upon by Islam. His conclusion therefore is that cultures based on Islam are simply incapable of creating a prosperous economy.

I decided to ask you after reading a tweet by an ISIS fan who posts about Syria and Iraq (nicknamed “Shami Witness”). The tweet said “A classical Ghazi state must expand continuously”. Is that a confirmation of Islam’s distaste for work?


---------- Answer by Mr. Sina -----

I’d say both, i.e. your Roman Catholic friend and this Muslim supporter of ISIS are right. Muhammad had no regards for productive work. In regards to agricultural equipment, for example, he said, “There is no house in which these equipment enter except that Allah will cause humiliation to enter it.”[Bukhari: 3: 39: 514]

The reason Muhammad was so disdainful of agriculture is because he wanted his followers to be warriors. Agriculture requires commitment to the land. As a farmer you can’t abandon your cultivated land and go raiding that often took weeks if not months. He said, “When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tails of oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad. Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.” [Dawud: 23: 3455]

Although agriculture is more demanding, all industries require commitment to some extent. Khabbib, a companion of Muhammad narrated, “I in the pre-Islamic days used to work as an iron-smith.” [Muslim: 39: 6716] Obviously, after joining Muhammad he left his profession and earned his living through raids.

It is reported that one day Muhammad narrated the following story, “One of the inhabitants of Paradise will ask Allah to allow him to cultivate the land. Allah will ask him, ‘Are you not living in the pleasures you like,’ He will say, ‘Yes, but I like to cultivate the land.’” So Muhammad went on saying that the man will be permitted to sow the seeds and the plants will grow as big as mountains in a blink of an eye with fruits ready to pick and then Allah will say to him, ‘O son of Adam! Gather the yield; nothing satisfies you.’” [Bukhari. 3: 39: 538]

The moral of this story is that agriculture is for greedy people. A true Muslim must be content with what he earns from booty, which of course was a lot more profitable and safe. By raiding villages and towns, the jihadists could kill men caught off guard and unarmed and plunder their wealth.

Muhammad was completely disinterested in production and industry. Wealth, according to him, had to be earned through looting. One of his companions narrated, “Allah’s Apostle forbade us to do a thing which was a source of help to us. [He] sent for me and asked, ‘What are you doing with your farms?’ I replied, ‘We give our farms on rent, or rent it for some wasqs (sacks) of barley and dates.’ Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Do not do so, but cultivate (the land) yourselves or let it be cultivated by others gratis, or keep it uncultivated.’ I said, ‘We hear and obey.’” [Bukhari, 3: 39: 532] Another hadith reports the same thing. “Whoever has land should cultivate it himself or give it to his (Muslim) brother gratis; otherwise he should keep it uncultivated.” [Bukari, 3: 39: 533]

It is said that Ibn Umar had some lands that he had rented out, and when he heard this hadith, he stopped renting them. [Bukhari, 3: 39: 536]

Despite abandoning agriculture and industry, Muslims were enriched, but entirely with booty and stealing the properties of others. Umar is reported saying, “But for the future Muslim generations, I would have distributed the land of the villages I conquer among the soldiers as the Prophet distributed the land of Khaibar.” [Bukhari, 3: 39: 527]

However, just like everything else Muhammad did and said, there was no consistency in him. When he raided and conquered Khaibar, he confiscated all the lands but allowed the survivors to cultivate them and share with him half of the proceeds. Umar’s son has narrated, “Allah’s Apostle intended to expel the Jews but they requested him to let them stay there on the condition that they would do the labor and get half of the fruits. Allah’s Apostle told them, “We will let you stay on thus condition, as long as we wish.” So, they (i.e. Jews) kept on living there until ‘Umar forced them to go towards Taima’ and Ariha’.” [Bukhari: 3: 39: 531]

The reason for this discrepancy may be in the fact that the conquered population of Khaybar were Jews. Technically speaking, they were not renting their confiscated land but laboring freely for Muslims.

Ibn Umar said, The Prophet concluded a contract with the people of Khaibar to utilize the land on the condition that half the products of fruits or vegetation would be their share. The Prophet used to give his wives one hundred wasqs each, eighty wasqs of dates and twenty wasqs of barley. (When ‘Umar became the Caliph) he gave the wives of the Prophet the option of either having the land and water as their shares, or carrying on the previous practice. Some of them chose the land and some chose the wasqs, and ‘Aisha chose the land. [Bukhari, 3: 39: 521]

None of the laws of Islam have any expiry date. The fact that Muslims’ provision must come from booty is ratified by contemporary Muslims.

The Islamic site Islamicawakening.com writes,

“Narrated Ibn Umar (ra) that the Prophet (saw) said, “My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated.”
(Sahih Bukhari, p.408, vol.1)

The virtue of the spear has been mentioned in this hadith and we have been informed that the livelihood and provision of the Prophet (saw) lies in the spear (jihaad). This is why the muhaditheen have stated that the best earning is that of war booty and it is clearly proven by this hadith that booty has been made permissible for this Ummah.

Only the spear has been mentioned out of all the war weaponry that, “livelihood has been placed under the spear” because generally, the flag is raised high on a spear, so the spear has been mentioned indicating towards the flag, and the livelihood means the booty. Allah has classified the wealth of the booty as clean wealth, as Allah says:

“And remember when you were few and reckoned weak in the land and were afraid that men might kidnap you. But He provided a safe place for you, strengthened you with His help, and provided you with good things so that you might be grateful.” (Anfal: 26)

The commentary of “good” (tayyab), in the above verse has been explained as booty.

Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah (ra) the Prophet (saw) said, “I have been given five things which were not given to anyone else before me:

1. Allah made me victorious by awe (by his frigtening my enemy), for a distance of one month’s journey.

2. The earth has been made for me (and my followers) a place for offering salah and a thing to purify (perform tayyamum), therefore anyone of my followers can offer salaah wherever he is at the time of salaah.

3. The booty has been made halal to me, yet it was not lawful to anyone else before me.

4. I have been given the right of intercession.

5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have sent to all mankind”. (Sahih Bukhari, p.51, English summarised edition; Muslim; Bayhaqi, p.4, vol.9)
http://islamicawakening.com/viewarticle ... pageID=214

This Muslim on Twitter who said, “A classical Ghazi state must expand continuously,” is correct. The Islamic economy is secured through plunder. So an Islamic state must keep expanding and looting. It is like a bicycle. You must keep pedaling or you fall.

Margaret Thatcher said, “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” The problem with Islamic economy is not much different. Once there is no one left to loot, Muslims will start cannibalizing each other by branding one another kafir, heretic and un-Islamic to justify raiding and looting them.

Since Muslims were driven out of Spain about 450 years ago, their source of income also dried out and they became impoverished ever since.

When Mark Twain visited the Ottoman Empire, he was struck by the absence of technological advancement and the pervasiveness of ignorance in general. He wrote, “The plows these people use are simply a sharpened stick, such as Abraham plowed with, and they still winnow their wheat as he did — they pile it on the house-top, and then toss it by shovel-fulls into the air until the wind has blown all the chaff away. They never invent anything, never learn anything.”

Twain was also not much impressed by the Muslim concept of morality. He said: “Mosques are plenty, churches are plenty, graveyards are plenty, but morals and whiskey are scarce. The Koran does not permit Mohammedans to drink. Their natural instincts do not permit them to be moral. They say the Sultan has eight hundred wives. This almost amounts to bigamy. It makes our cheeks burn with shame to see such a thing permitted here in Turkey.”

Muslims see they are poor, while everyone else is better off. And since they think Allah has made it lawful for them to loot and plunder, they have risen to claim what they regard as theirs, i.e. your wealth.

And of course the concept of ethics and morality is as alien to the Muslim psyche as is camel to North Pole. For a Muslim right and wrong are not determined by the standards of the Golden Rule, but by what Muhammad has allowed and forbidden. Muslims will not use their conscience to judge the Islamic morality. They have none. To have a conscience one must be able to think independently. Muslims pride themselves in hearing and obeying, not in thinking, reasoning and God forbid, questioning.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 01:02
by MurthyB
KJoishy wrote:
Does anyone know why France allowed so many uncivilized barbarians into their country? At least our excuse is that we didn't let them in, they broke in like rats.
I think it was a self-goal by the French in the dying days of empire. By giving people in their colonies the right to French citizenship, they claimed that those were not colonies anymore so the natives had no right to demand self-rule. I believe they used this argument for "keeping" Pondicherry as well. Ultimately, they lost the empire, but gained the inhabitants. One reason why all the chowkidars at the Yoo-Ess embassy in Pari are all Tamil speaking guys from Pondy :rotfl:

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 03:26
by Hari Seldon
So it begins..... the world tires of one-sided barbarism from the jeehardons ... and starts paying back in kind.... At some point this was bound to happen.

Amnesty video seems to show Nigeria troops slitting Boko Haram suspects' throats

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 03:51
by Vayutuvan
Hari:

>> AbhyuthAnam dharmasya, tadAtmAnam srujam aham.... only.
abhyuththAnamadharmasya tadAtmAnam srujAmyaham

It is adharma not dharma, whenever "adharma arises".

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 04:02
by Skanda

Yazidi Member of Iraqi Parliament collapses in tears after calling upon World to Rescue the Yazidis

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 04:40
by KJo
MurthyB wrote:
KJoishy wrote:
Does anyone know why France allowed so many uncivilized barbarians into their country? At least our excuse is that we didn't let them in, they broke in like rats.
I think it was a self-goal by the French in the dying days of empire. By giving people in their colonies the right to French citizenship, they claimed that those were not colonies anymore so the natives had no right to demand self-rule. I believe they used this argument for "keeping" Pondicherry as well. Ultimately, they lost the empire, but gained the inhabitants. One reason why all the chowkidars at the Yoo-Ess embassy in Pari are all Tamil speaking guys from Pondy :rotfl:
This also means that if India ever takes over the dharmic land which is now under barbaric occupation to our West, we have to dump all the occupants into the sea (won't happen), or convert them to the dharmic way of life (possible) leaving behind their jaahiliyat. We cannot have 200M crazy beards running around in Akhand Bharat.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 06:03
by arun
X Posted from the STFUP thread.

So much for pretensions of the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that Bedouin Arabs view them as anything more than a bunch of Miskeens :lol: . Saudi Arabia has reportedly passed a law that ban’s Saudi Arabian men marrying women from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Ban also includes women from Mohammadden majority Bangladesh, Chad and Morocco:

Saudi Men Banned From Marrying Bengali, Pakistani, Chadian, Burmese Women

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 06:41
by sanjaykumar
That is truly remarkable and indicates major explicatory cognitive contortions coming up in Pakistan tomorrow.

Or perhaps they think Pakistani women are too good for Arabs. Oh that must be it.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 06:46
by KJo
Arabs are chankyan.
Maybe the plan is to have Arab men marry Kafir women, infect them with their dirty sperm and pop our more terrorists for Islam.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 09:35
by Neela
krisna wrote: nitpick--
the killer killed his sister whio married person not approved by his family. she had eloped ironically with another muslim.
she wa also pregnant ~3-4 mts.
Yep..thats the one.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 10:26
by SanjayC
Ex-Muslim from Turkey: ‘You must ban Islam. All Muslims have THE RIGHT to kill and rape you (kafir), grab all your properties, your country, land, money’

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/201 ... um=twitter

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 06 Aug 2014 11:47
by arun
arun wrote:X Posted from the STFUP thread.

So much for pretensions of the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that Bedouin Arabs view them as anything more than a bunch of Miskeens :lol: . Saudi Arabia has reportedly passed a law that ban’s Saudi Arabian men marrying women from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Ban also includes women from Mohammadden majority Bangladesh, Chad and Morocco:

Saudi Men Banned From Marrying Bengali, Pakistani, Chadian, Burmese Women
X Posted from the STFUP thread.

Saudi Gazette confirms news that Saudi Arabian men have been prohibited from marrying women from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Clearly despite all talk of Mohammaddenism being an egalitarian religion there is a pecking order in among Mohammadden majority countries. In that pecking order the Islamic Republic of Pakistan along with the other Muslim majority country of the Indian Sub-Continent is relegated to the rank of second class Mohammaddens despite their claims of being of Arab ancestry after rejecting their Hindu identity:
The official { Makkah Police Director Maj. Gen. Assaf Al-Qurashi } said Saudi men have been prohibited from marrying expatriate women from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Chad and Myanmar.
From here:

Rules for Saudi men marrying foreign women made tougher

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 00:17
by Jarita
Have you seen this footage from 1960's of an Islamic slave market. These people were the original traffickers of the world.

http://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.or ... ern-times/

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 00:20
by ramana
Hari Seldon wrote:So it begins..... the world tires of one-sided barbarism from the jeehardons ... and starts paying back in kind.... At some point this was bound to happen.

Amnesty video seems to show Nigeria troops slitting Boko Haram suspects' throats

Interesting that Amnesty video taped the stuff. Did they video tape the BokoHaramis doing their stuff?

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 07:05
by SanjayC
Slavery still exists in some Muslim countries.

Slavery’s last stronghold
Mauritania’s endless sea of sand dunes hides an open secret: An estimated 10% to 20% of the population lives in slavery.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 08:11
by Singha
it seems the arab slave trade killed more than 100 million africans in transit and some 20 million were sold in the slave markets after surviving the journey.
compared to american and brazilian slave traders who took mostly men, the arabs took mostly women and children.
and this was justly sanctioned and acceptable right from the PBUH's times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BfYGsdv-OQ#t=434

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 16:37
by Neela
So Pak, BD, Indonesia now out of bounds for Saudi pervs.
Guess where they are going to head now?
I hope KL, AP, Bihar, UP are all hiking their hotel prices.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 16:49
by Brad Goodman
Singha wrote:it seems the arab slave trade killed more than 100 million africans in transit and some 20 million were sold in the slave markets after surviving the journey.
compared to american and brazilian slave traders who took mostly men, the arabs took mostly women and children.
and this was justly sanctioned and acceptable right from the PBUH's times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BfYGsdv-OQ#t=434
I had seen a documentry some where and it mentioned that many more men died in the process of castration. Arabs never wanted them to have children so they would go at lenghts to castrate them and with unhygenic practices most died of infections

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 07 Aug 2014 20:08
by Jarita
arun wrote:X Posted from the STFUP thread.

So much for pretensions of the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that Bedouin Arabs view them as anything more than a bunch of Miskeens :lol: . Saudi Arabia has reportedly passed a law that ban’s Saudi Arabian men marrying women from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Ban also includes women from Mohammadden majority Bangladesh, Chad and Morocco:

Saudi Men Banned From Marrying Bengali, Pakistani, Chadian, Burmese Women

I wonder if this is because of genetic issues.
We know about Pakistan but Chad is also pretty inbred
Unlike what is found in Toubou society, marriage among the Arabs strengthens kinship ties. First, marriage is more a family than an individual concern; senior males from each family make initial contacts and eventually negotiate the marriage contract. An ideal union reinforces the social, moral, and material position of the group. Second, parallel cousin marriage (that is, union between the children of brothers or male relatives more removed), is preferred. This custom encourages the duplication of bonds within the group rather than the creation of a far-flung network of more tenuous, individual alliances, as occurs among the Toubou.
http://faculty.som.yale.edu/mushfiqmoba ... inity.html
An estimated 1,000 million people live in countries where 20-50+% of all marriages are contracted between couples related (generally second cousins or closer). This estimate is deliberately conservative, since in many of the most populous countries, such as Indonesia and Bangladesh, very few studies have attempted to determine the current prevalence of consanguinity or its effects on population health. In an earlier household-based survey of the Teknaf region of Bangladesh, located in the extreme southeast of the country, which borders Myanmar, 17.6% of marriages were consanguineous. However, there is limited literature that adequately accounts for the possibility of non-random selection into consanguinity for families with socio-economic characteristics that may also pre-dispose them towards a certain morbidity profile. Given the confounding factors associated with consanguineous marriage and poor health, including poverty and lack of child immunization, the present multidisciplinary study was undertaken to investigate these social and economic influences on consanguineous marriage, and the survival and health effects of children born to such couples.

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 08 Aug 2014 00:10
by Prem
Kansas GOP Official Tweets: 'Offending Muslims Is The Duty Of Any Civilized Person - Especially With A .45'

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/kansa ... -offending
Gavin Ellzey, the vice chairman of the Kansas Republican 3rd Congressional District Committee, advised on Twitter in early July that “offending Muslims is the duty of any civilized person.”Ellzey added, “Especially with a .45.”In an interview with The Star, the Overland Park resident acknowledged writing the tweet in response to television news reports about Christians being “crucified” overseas.“Sometimes you overreact,” Ellzey said.“I’ve had folks call me,” he added. “I’m not trying to offend anybody. I sure wouldn’t shoot anybody. I don’t even own a gun.”He said he later deleted the tweet.The Kansas Republican Party later issued a statement:"The Kansas Republican Party has no responsibility for or connection to the public statements of private citizens who perform occasional volunteer work for the Party. The Republican Party in no way shares Mr. Ellzey's sentiment."

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 08 Aug 2014 10:39
by arun
X Posted from the “Oppression of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, barbers are gaining popularity as victims of choice in the Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion motivated sectarian extermination where the self-proclaimed “More Pure” cleanse the “Land of the Pure” of those deemed “Less Pure”. In two separate incidents in Karachi, four barbers belonging to minority Shia sect of Mohammaddenism were killed in religious motivated sectarian attacks.

Reading the below Dawn article reminded me that I had over the past decade come across no such similar instances of internecine killings in other religious groups such as Buddhists, Christists, Hindus, Jains or Jews over issues of interpretation of religion anywhere in the world.

Can anyone thus enlighten if there were similar cases over the past decade anywhere in the world, of Hinayana Buddhists killing Mahayana Buddhists or vice versa, or Catholic Christists killing Protestant Christists or vice versa, or Shaivite Hindus killing Vaishnavite Hindus or vice versa, or Digamber Jains killing Shwetamber Jains or vice versa, or Ashkanazie Jews killing Sephardic Jews or Vice versa; all over differences of interpretation of their respective religions?

Or is it that the Mohammaddenism is somehow a special lone case among the world’s religions when it comes to the matter of killing co-religionists over interpretation of own religion?
Targeted: Two barbers gunned down by four assailants at their shop in Liaquatabad

By Our Correspondent. Published: August 7, 2014

KARACHI: Police have been unable to trace the assailants responsible for the series of target killings of barbers in District Central, The Express Tribune has learnt.

In the latest incident, two barbers were shot dead by at least four assailants who targeted their shop in FC Area, Liaquatabad, within the limits of Sharifabad Police Station. Ashraf, 35, and his uncle, Hameed, 50, were working at their shop when they were targeted on Tuesday night. The assailants, however, managed to escape after committing the crime. Both the victims were shifted to Abbasi Shaheed Hospital where doctors pronounced them dead on arrival.

This was the second such incident in the vicinity. A couple of days before Eidul Fitr, two other barbers were shot dead by armed motorcyclists at their shop. Though the police have yet to arrest the culprits, they suspect that both the attacks were carried out by the same group. “All four victims belonged to the Shia community,” SHO Shaukat Raza told The Express Tribune. “Our initial investigation suggests that both the incidents occurred over sectarian basis and the same men are behind these killings in the area.” ………………………..

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

Posted: 08 Aug 2014 18:40
by Neela
Admins:
Can we change the title & omit the "Abroad" part. It is quite clear now that this is also a threat to India.
Internal security thread can cover other security topics.








Anyone can translate or provide a gist?
From twitter, I gather that some RoPer's SIL was beheaded.

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