Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

manju · Post by **manju** » 06 Sep 2013 03:55

I know this organization well. They have started educating lay public about their voting rights and campagined to encourage people from taking bribes to vote!

http://www.graam.org.in/making-democracy-work

Campaign Report - Making Democracy Work
can be downloaded from here
http://www.graam.org.in/publication/cam ... cracy-work

by
Vivekananda Institute for Leadership
Development (V-LEAD)
(a unit of Swami Vivekananda Youth Movement)
www.vild.edu.in | www.svym.org

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 06 Sep 2013 08:29

Knowing from ground level, I will be surprised if AAP can win more than 1 or 2 seats in Delhi. Delhi voters are highly political and community conscience and politicians are entrenched since ages. You can't just come in and win 8-10 seats despite all the hoohaa and dharna by Hazare and others. Except for JanLokpal bill which still belongs to LokSabha, what is AAP bringing to the table to differentiate it from others.
AK had his moment under the sun and the TV cameras have since moved onto NaMo Yatra.
The core voter in Delhi is still Congressi or BJP and is evenly divided. AAP can play the role of spoiler and split away some of the anti-congress vote but to say that they will win 8-10 seats is stretching it too far. Similarly unless something major happens, Congress should be routed in Delhi. The simmering anger against the Central govt and this inflation will get reflected in state polls despite the fact that SD has decent job in Delhi compared to other Congress govts across the country.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Sep 2013 16:42

EVM paper trail used for first time

New Delhi: The Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) with electronic voting machines was used for the first time to count votes in Nagaland's Tuensang district Saturday.

According to an Election Commission statement issued Saturday, polling for the bypoll to the Noksen (ST) assembly constituency was held Sep 4.

Under the VVPAT system, developed by the Electronics Corporation of India Limited and the Bharat Electronics Limited, a printer is attached to the balloting unit of the voting machine.

When a voter casts vote by pressing the button, besides a red light glowing against the candidate's name and the party symbol, the printer generates a paper slip containing serial number, name and party symbol of the candidate for whom vote has been cast.

The voter can see this paper slip through a window covered by glass on the printer. This enables the voter to verify whether the vote cast has been correctly recorded.

After some time, the slip automatically gets cut and falls into the box permanently attached below the printer.

In case of doubt, the paper slips can be counted at the time of counting and tallied with the number of votes recorded in the voting machine's control unit.

http://www.sify.com/news/evm-paper-trai ... ajgdj.html

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Sep 2013 17:23

the slip should be given to the voter and he should be able to cross verify it online

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Sep 2013 17:50

^ Krishnan ji,
Then the henchmen of politicos can also cross verify whether the threatened community and individuals have kept to his diktats while casting their vote.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Sep 2013 17:53

yeah , but with enough money and connection he/she can always do that. `

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Sep 2013 18:15

How ?

One can get rough idea on how the local community voted by looking at ward/booth wise totals. In localities with mixed communities this becomes all the more difficult - which is the case most often .

Inspite of above AFAIK there is no way one can surely track (at individual level) who has casted what vote unless some thing similar to a liedetector test is used postfacto.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 09 Sep 2013 06:32

What will be the impact of these riots in the next general election?
Muzaffarnagar frenzy toll rises to 26, Army men fired at

Indian Express: Pictures of the carnge

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 09 Sep 2013 13:57

State CM blames not opposition even but BJP!

People leaving villages out of fear - exodus and who is maut kaa saudaagar here? Sonia is out of country and PM seems to be busy with G20 on Syria.

In Maharashtra Shiv Sena does not discriminate between caste even when there is vote bank politics. In UP Jat seem to be anaath in vote banking and bloodthirst of secular.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 09 Sep 2013 14:27

Sushupti wrote:EVM paper trail used for first time

New Delhi: The Voter Verifiable Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) with electronic voting machines was used for the first time to count votes in Nagaland's Tuensang district Saturday.

According to an Election Commission statement issued Saturday, polling for the bypoll to the Noksen (ST) assembly constituency was held Sep 4.

Under the VVPAT system, developed by the Electronics Corporation of India Limited and the Bharat Electronics Limited, a printer is attached to the balloting unit of the voting machine.

When a voter casts vote by pressing the button, besides a red light glowing against the candidate's name and the party symbol, the printer generates a paper slip containing serial number, name and party symbol of the candidate for whom vote has been cast.

The voter can see this paper slip through a window covered by glass on the printer. This enables the voter to verify whether the vote cast has been correctly recorded.

After some time, the slip automatically gets cut and falls into the box permanently attached below the printer.

In case of doubt, the paper slips can be counted at the time of counting and tallied with the number of votes recorded in the voting machine's control unit.

http://www.sify.com/news/evm-paper-trai ... ajgdj.html

The question is- will these be used in the upcoming Loksabha elections?

satya · Post by **satya** » 09 Sep 2013 15:30

Rajamata ko motti bimari hei . Beyond that its a state secret .

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 09 Sep 2013 15:38

I wish and pray for the same, the death must also be excruciatingly painful.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 09 Sep 2013 15:45

Dilli-billi are silent about attacks on members of Jat mahaapanchaayat. Meaning dilli-billis have shown their haraamkhori again.

How many times we have to see such haraamkhori of dilli billis. Be it terrorism or ethnic cleansing or abusive mistreatment of leaders or Indian security scenario .. been there done that by dilli billis for own sake.

The Jat community seem to have no vote banks in UP overall. Wonder why Hindus can't manage this .. for people and lands of farmers will be grabbed by jihaadis for vote banks.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Sep 2013 16:18

Dilli billis have long become Adharmics. Only when the new Arjunas get rid of their Moha towards their Adharmic brothers, sons, friends and relatives there will be a decisive fight for dharma.

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 09 Sep 2013 18:49

Sagar G wrote:I wish and pray for the same, the death must also be excruciatingly painful.

Beware what you wish for. It might lead to a massive sympathy vote for INC.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Sep 2013 21:42

satya wrote:Rajamata ko motti bimari hei . Beyond that its a state secret .

They've been talking about it for 3 years.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 09 Sep 2013 21:44

New Delhi, Jun 25: A US news website says that the mystery surrounding Congress president Sonia Gandhi's disease, for which she reportedly underwent surgery at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Centre in New York back in August 2011, has had a remarkable impact on politics in India. Bruce Riedel, who used to work for the CIA, has written in the 'Daily Beast' that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh "does know what ails his boss, but very few other Indian officials are in the know." The article titled 'Sonia Gandhi health mystery sets India leadership adrift' paints a gloomy picture. "So with unanswered questions about Sonia Gandhi's future and Singh expected not to run again for the prime minister's job, India looks to be a bit adrift. Hard decisions about economic reforms and investment rules have been postponed, and the country has slowed." According to Riedel, the ruling party's chief is "arguably the most powerful woman in the world today, perhaps even the most powerful woman in history." Citing Sonia's role in preventing a deadly flareup between India and Pakistan post the 26/11 terror attacks in Mumbai, he adds, "It is far too early to count Gandhi out. She has been underestimated far too often in the past."

Read more at: http://news.oneindia.in/2012/06/25/manm ... 24268.html

old article

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 09 Sep 2013 21:50

^^ She is one of them. They love her

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 09 Sep 2013 22:10

sudarshan wrote:
Sagar G wrote:I wish and pray for the same, the death must also be excruciatingly painful.
Beware what you wish for. It might lead to a massive sympathy vote for INC.

If people are going to cast their vote based on sympathy than reality then India and its people deserve to go down the drain we are marching forward to.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 09 Sep 2013 22:14

Shamli SP Abdul Hamid did not arrested the 11 culprits (all muslims) for Rape of 14 years old Dalit Girl and other assorted crimes against Hindus about a month ago.

Thus Jats are now polarising the villages through violence (after dharnas, sit ins in front of SP, jail, etc) in Muzaffarnagar and Shamli

Lucknow, Sept 8: The Army staged a flag march in the riot-hit curfew bound areas of Muzaffarnagar, where the death toll has risen to 19. Eight columns of the Army were deployed at the request of the district authorities in the late hours of Saturday, following the communal riots which erupted in Muzaffarnagar and its adjoining rural areas, after those going to participate in the `Bahu Beti Samaan Bachaoi Mahapanchyat’ were attacked and fired upon. The panchayat was organized by the Jat community at Nagla Mandaur, 20 km from Muzaffarnagar city, where over 1.5 lakh people from Uttar Pradesh, Haryana and Delhi participated. The situation in Muzaffarnagar worsened on Saturday following incidents of firing, stone pelting and violence in which IBN7 journalist Rajesh Verma and a part-time photographer of the state police, Israr, were killed.

In the last two decades, this is the first incident of a communal riot in Uttar Pradesh, when the civil administration has had to bring in the armed force to grab control over the law and order situation. The last time such an incident took place, where the army had to be called for, was in December 1992, where communal forces erupted after the demolition of the Babri Masjid in Ayodhya.

The district magistrate said, “The death toll could further rise as several people were still missing”. “34 people were also injured in the clash and so far more than 40 people have been arrested”, he added.

The administration passed orders for an indefinite curfew was imposed in certain areas of Muzaffarnagar city – Nayi Mandi, City Kotwali and Civil Lines on Saturday. The orders continued today and no fresh incident of violence has been reported since last evening. 38 companies of Army, paramilitary and Rapid Action Force (RAF) were deployed in violence-hit western UP. The district administration in an unprecedented move stopped the distribution of the newspapers in Muzaffarnagar city. Defending the move, a district official said, “Newspaper distribution has been banned to prevent the spread of rumors in the city”.

The twin districts of Muzaffarnagar and Shamli have been witnessing sporadic violence for over a month. Shamli was carved out as a separate district by the Bahujan Samaj Party regime in October 2011. Earlier in June this year, a dalit woman was allegedly gang raped by youth members of the minority community. The local people protested against police inaction. Everything was under control until earlier this month, when people from both the communities came to blows after a sanitation worker was killed in communal clash, in Shamli.

The situation in Muzaffarnagar started deteriorating since 27 August, when two youths of the Jat community were beaten to death in Kawaal village, under Jaansath tehsil of Muzaffarnagar. One youth from the minority community was also killed in the clash. The clash occurred over the alleged incident of eve teasing. The Jat community, to protest the incident organized a `panchayat’ at Jaansath town on 31 August. The panchayat demanded action against the culprits responsible for the murder of the two Jat youths. The panchayat also demanded the removal of the Superintendent of Police of Shamli district for his allegedly partisan conduct. The Khap panchayat then announced to organize a `mahapanchayat’ on 7 September, at Nagla Mandaur, if their demands were not met. On 5 September, the BJP had also given a call for Muzaffarnagar bandh.

To prevent the `mahapanchyat’, the Muzaffarnagar district administration imposed prohibitory orders under Section 144, of the CrPC, in the entire district. Armed forces and the Rapid Action Force were deployed in Muzaffarnagar. Heavy deployment of PAC and RAF was made in Muzaffarnagar and the city remained tense but peaceful till Saturday. On Saturday, as soon as the attack on the participants of panchayat occurred at Basee village, the police and the para military forces were rushed to the village and Nagal Mandaur, the venue of the Mahapanchyat. The rioters in city of Muzaffarnagar had a field day for several hours.

Sudden eruption of violence created anarchy like situation in the city. The police had to beat a hasty retreat in many places as the well armed rioters outnumbered the police. The district administration immediately imposed curfew in the city.

Meanwhile Azam Khan, the urban development and minority affairs minister, who is also in charge of the district of Muzaffarnagar has held the district administration and the organizers and participants of the ‘mahapanchayat’ responsible for the communal riot in the city. He told the media, “The participants in the panchayat raised highly provocative slogans”.

“The district administration should have taken measures to prevent the people from Haryana and Delhi from reaching the venue of the Mahapanchayat. The district magistrate should not look at Lucknow always for instructions. He should have exercised his discretion and prevented the people from other states from reaching Muzaffarnagr’’, said Azam Khan. “India is a free country and there is no restriction on people from other states coming to UP. However, they should have behaved responsibly”.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 10 Sep 2013 01:55

^^ Then this Shamli SP has acted pretty much in the same manner as that DSP Zia-ul-Haq. Common link in both cases in Azam Khan.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Sep 2013 02:36

TOI writes:

Akhilesh loosing Muslim Support? groups want SP govt dismissed

Is this a INC ploy?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 11 Sep 2013 02:58

Given the manner in which SP is being targeted, and the non stop Cong slams, Cong demands this stuff on paid media aka english news channels, its clear hes on the hit list. Also, usual left and congress worthies are being trotted out to say that the BJP MLA uploaded a fake video to youtube sparking the riots. No mention of the girl harassment and the death of the two youths. Truly, a section of the hindu community have turned asuras and are actively plotting/attacking their own community in order to get money, pelft and to feel self righteous about how liberal they are.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Sep 2013 03:31

^ they are Hindus in name only.

All Asuras of Puranic lore are Hindus only. And whichever form Asuras come (Hindus or non-Hindus), they must be summarily killed in the form they desire. Some want beheadings and soosai bombs, while others want a genocidal death.

Don't forget our history. Asuras have a right to select the way they die (Ravana, Hiranyakasipa, Taraka, Mahishasura and so on), and it is Dharmic's responsibility to fulfill their wish.

niran · Post by **niran** » 11 Sep 2013 06:47

ramana wrote:TOI writes:

Akhilesh loosing Muslim Support? groups want SP govt dismissed

Is this a INC ploy?

this is plan B, the original plan was to blame bhajapa
so that the section of Muslim youth who had strayed towards
NaMo could be brought back remember there is a section of youth who had benefited from employment
in modi Gujarat and also to chop off undecided Hindus from NaMo but these darn internet and mardern
communication system put paid to the plan A.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 11 Sep 2013 07:41

An interesting article on UP BJP's prospects. Can anyone from UP comment on the efficacy of the strategy?

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/amit- ... 97995.html

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 11 Sep 2013 11:41

#Pappu follows Modi in Rajasthan .. will address rallies in tribal areas os south Rajasthan (Mewar).

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Sep 2013 13:57

^ Was reading sanjeev sanyal's "Land of seven rivers" where he describes Mewar in glowing terms. Seems the folks of Mewar fought to the last man, yes, the last man, on multiple occasions to defend the temple against islamist plunderers. The women and children would hide in the nearby hills and forests while the menfolk took up arms to defend the shiva temple there.

Anyway, OT. Just sad that a pappu who has no clue and appreciation of r the rich history of the place is going there for a staged drama.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 11 Sep 2013 14:58

Hari Seldon wrote:^ Was reading sanjeev sanyal's "Land of seven rivers" where he describes Mewar in glowing terms. Seems the folks of Mewar fought to the last man, yes, the last man, on multiple occasions to defend the temple against islamist plunderers. The women and children would hide in the nearby hills and forests while the menfolk took up arms to defend the shiva temple there.

Anyway, OT. Just sad that a pappu who has no clue and appreciation of r the rich history of the place is going there for a staged drama.

Hari ji,
There are reasons behind that.
1) The long entwined trading communities of Rajasthan(marwari) and Gujarat have already resolved whom to back this time. So there is less hope from them.
2) Congress is confident (atleast in assumption) about the Muslim votes.
3) Upper castes have traditionally been with BJP but they are less cohesive, lack numbers to matter a lot anyway.
4) Except BJP-Congress other parties don't have a good base in Raj.
5) So what is left for congress is to focus on SC-ST and tribal votes. That is why they started in south Rajasthan.
South Rajasthan tribals are still traditional and less urbanized. Their votes are more cohesive, in bulk and can be directed. The lone strongman of BJP in this area was Gulabchand Kataria (ex-minister). The moment he mend his differences with Vasundhara (few months back), he was chargesheeted in Sohrabuddin case. Makes you wonder.

Regards,
Virendra

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 Sep 2013 18:15

Virendra wrote: 5) So what is left for congress is to focus on SC-ST and tribal votes. That is why they started in south Rajasthan.
South Rajasthan tribals are still traditional and less urbanized. Their votes are more cohesive, in bulk and can be directed. The lone strongman of BJP in this area was Gulabchand Kataria (ex-minister). The moment he mend his differences with Vasundhara (few months back), he was chargesheeted in Sohrabuddin case. Makes you wonder.

This will back fire bigtime for pappu.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 02:09

^^What will backfire, muppala garu? and why?

virendra ji, agree fully. Onlee.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 13 Sep 2013 03:04

Is Khujliwal going to be the next CM of Delhi? And has the BJP projected Vijay Goel as the next CM candidate?

An opinion poll (not sure how much credence to put on it).

http://www.indiatvnews.com/politics/nat ... 12393.html

Nearly 38.5 per cent of the 3310 sample voters surveyed by Cicero Associates have shown their preference for Arvind Kejriwal as the next chief minister of Delhi, with Sheila Dikshit trailing at 18.4 and BJP leader Vijay Goel at 12.1 per cent.

Cicero Associates is a Delhi-based public opinion and political consultancy firm which conducted the survey in the last week of August, 2013.

BJP leads the vote per cent share at 31 pc, Aam Aadmi Party at 27 pc and Congress third at 26 pc.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 13 Sep 2013 03:26

Once again I will go out on my limb as say that AAP can only play spoiler. They can't win the elections in Delhi on their own. They may end up forming the govt in an alliance.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 05:14

Supporters say Narendra Modi pained by LK Advani's stance

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nare ... 09495.html

member_23658 · Post by **member_23658** » 13 Sep 2013 11:30

meanwhile ...
MP Congress shuts doors to Diggi during a press conference
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 522455.cms

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 13 Sep 2013 11:43

^^^

May be the expectation is that the AAP will leave the core INC vote untouched, and move the maybies from BJP to it self. In that way the AAP can help the BJP win the election.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 13 Sep 2013 11:54

Can people of Delhi really cant see Khujliwal's antics? Isnt he a person in same vain as Congress, with even worse sense of economics and even worse streak of anti-Hinduism?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 13 Sep 2013 14:53

You have to sepak to the voter to understand what is going on. my family was visited by AAP workers, seeking to educate us. one FAq was provided to us. It was silent on the every thing but it did attack the BJP.

So the objective is to demonise the BJP and present itself as an alternative.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 13 Sep 2013 15:06

Hari Seldon wrote:^^What will backfire, muppala garu? and why?

virendra ji, agree fully. Onlee.

Whether it is tribal or non-tribal areas. if you arrest/chargesheet using so called fake-encounters of real terrorists, it will backfire on congress party. They just cannot try to pull a fast one on Shorabuddin case on anyone. Ishrat care on media trial itself backfired and everytime they are using this, even the fake-surveys are giving a bump to BJP.

Congress party has gone nuts and they should deflect themselves from this targeting BJP/RSS etc using terror cases.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 13 Sep 2013 15:16

Amol.D wrote:meanwhile ...
MP Congress shuts doors to Diggi during a press conference
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 522455.cms

Hilarious read. The comments are even more hilarious...

EVEN THE LIFT IS REFUSING TO LET THE DOG IN

What is that? Prize for so much loyalty??? BeWafa Ma and beta!

Hehe.... Dogvijay Singh ab Congress ko kewal BAHAR se Support karenge

SOMETIMES PET EVEN BE OUSTED BY THE GUARDS

DHOBI KA KUTAA NA GHAR KA NA GHAT KA._-

BADE BE-AABROO HO KE APNE HEE KOOCHE SE HAM NIKLE !

good for MP congress.... harenge ...lekin jamant japt nahi hogi..