Bharat Rakshak

^^^Somebody mentioned about Jan Psaki that even if she said water is wet one should not believe her…

It’s quite amazing and a sign of how successful the Western grip on the narrative has been that there are absolutely no numbers on Ukranian casualties. Meanwhile as per them Russian casualties are 12000+…. And Putin is going to be overthrown.

Tanaji wrote:^^^Somebody mentioned about Jan Psaki that even if she said water is wet one should not believe her…

It’s quite amazing and a sign of how successful the Western grip on the narrative has been that there are absolutely no numbers on Ukranian casualties. Meanwhile as per them Russian casualties are 12000+…. And Putin is going to be overthrown.

US has stated Russian casualties at 6k it was Ukraine which said 12k+, US Intel they been pretty accurate atleast in this conflict which indicates some inside source.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ukrain ... asion/#app

srikandan wrote: A "favorable view of the USA" is equivalent to "is a friendly state with respect to India" -- this level of trust easily translates to belief in the US viewpoint. One look at the print and TV media in India, and it is obvious that they just regurgitate reports from Reuters, AFP, or AP, and this is being fed to Indians on a daily basis, and we see the secondary effects on the points of view in this thread. QED.

We are all very programmable, once we choose to decide something is "trustworthy" -- it drops the filter to skeptically look at information from that source, unless we realize otherwise. The Indian govt. seems to think allowing foreign countries to manipulate news in India is a great idea, going by them allowing foreign media ownership in India without any constraints -- BBC and US channel spread fake news about India with impunity and we have the I&B ministry sitting nearby watching with avid interest and doing nothing.

Even regional media...
I went through some articles in a Top Telugu daily 'Eenadu'... Not only were they showing purely Western viewpoint, they're so lazy that they're simply translating articles from Western media into Telugu...

THE NEO NAZIS

THE DONBASS TRAGEDY WATCH IN FULL

OR OTHERWISE UKRAINE'S ETHNIC CLEANSING PROGRAM

kit wrote:Lbiplu3Cyjg

Interesting video... First time I'm seeing a full video from the other side...
Deep State practically cut-off everything coming from the other side...

John wrote:

Tanaji wrote:^^^Somebody mentioned about Jan Psaki that even if she said water is wet one should not believe her…

It’s quite amazing and a sign of how successful the Western grip on the narrative has been that there are absolutely no numbers on Ukranian casualties. Meanwhile as per them Russian casualties are 12000+…. And Putin is going to be overthrown.

US has stated Russian casualties at 6k it was Ukraine which said 12k+, US Intel they been pretty accurate atleast in this conflict which indicates some inside source.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ukrain ... asion/#app

US intel ; no biolabs in Ukraine, chemical attack about to happen, hospital bombing, massacre of civilians.

I think if a person is brain dead or monetarily enjoying US patronage then sure yes US intel has been pretty accurate.
examples:

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-invasio ... 85484.html
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/ ... war-a76834
[The moron burns in 2008 told that US should not expand border to Ukraine]

https://kyivindependent.com/uncategoriz ... ry-action/

That's just a few of them.

Zelinski is under the thumb of the Neo Nazis

Residents of the city of Irpin in kyiv oblast are trying to escape through bridge which the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed, no sight of Ukrainian armed forces that are suppose to protect them or at the very least, facilitate them

I think if a person is brain dead or monetarily enjoying US patronage then sure yes US intel has been pretty accurate.
examples

Not sure what you are stating with those link but US intel called out invasion dates and the objectives correctly when both Europeans and Ukraine casted doubt. Even I questioned the motives if you look back but I turned out to be wrong.

Also recently they pointed out that Belarus troops had not crossed over while Ukraine was stating that two days ago.

Regarding the conflict I see equipment losses compilation by Oryx as better way to analyze what’s happening, he has done a pretty good job with compilation.

This site (and this guy in particular.. are really the mouth-piece of China's Government). I wish our Indian stance had balls like theirs does.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202203/ ... html?id=11

One of the comment he made in the video: "By wanting to stop China-Russia trade, does the US think it is God?"

HOW UKRAINE IS MANIPULATING THE WAR FOR A NATO INTERVENTION



On the 11/03/2022, A TU 141 over flew the whole length of Romania. With the Romanian Airforce sighting it for just 3 mins before it vanished from their screens. It then entered Croatian airspace was sighted by the Croatian Airforce for 5 mins. Before crashing in Zagreb.

now

Just three days after the event, a drone crashed in the Tărpiu village close to the Transylvanian city of Bistrița in Romania. Unlike the UAV that crashed in Croatia, this one carried no armament. It was identified as a Russian Orlan-10 reconnaisance drone.Like Croatia, Romania is a NATO member.

and then

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/brit ... 87866.html

Britain bluntly warned Vladimir Putin on Monday that he would face “war with Nato” if even a “single toecap of a Russian soldier” stepped into the territory of the military alliance’s 30 members.

Fact
The TU 141 Drone looks like a missile, and was operational with the Soviet military in the 70s and 80s. It has been decommissioned ages ago by everyone. For some reason, it was reintroduced with the Ukrainian military in 2014.

Everyone knew that if Ukr was not going to renounce NATO membership, invasion was the next step. Putin was pretty clean when he said Military Technical response. didnt need 1 trillion dollars a year to find that out.
It's better to spend 10K lives now and get Ukr under control than wait anoher 20 years and lose all of Russia.

India should have done the same with the jihadis up north but somehow we missed that opportunity.

On a positive news.. I saw a news where Indian Oil Corporation placed an order to buy 3 million tons of Ural grade oil from Russia. With a discount. Assuming true.. I say Good for India to do the right thing. Which is - secure cheap energy supplies.. and potentially pay in Rupees.

Is anyone going to point out that Ukrainian Right Wingers were marching in East Ukraine in full NAZI regalia around people who suffered extreme cruelty at the hands of the NAZI's and this is why Putin felt the need to act?

If the fight is inevitable — be the first to strike.

The longest journey starts from the first step. The CIA started the Nazification of Ukraine in the distant 1950s



From Mykola Lebed - Wikipedia

Mykola Lebed (Ukrainian: Микола Кирилович Лебідь or Ле́бедь; January 11, 1909 – July 18, 1998), also known as Maksym Ruban, Marko or Yevhen Skyrba, was a Ukrainian political activist, Ukrainian nationalist, and guerrilla fighter. He was among those tried, convicted, and imprisoned for the murder of Polish Interior Minister Bronislaw Pieracki, in 1934. The court sentenced him to death, but the state commuted the sentence to life imprisonment. He escaped when the Germans invaded Poland in 1939.[1]: 73  As the leader of OUN-B he is responsible for the genocide of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia.[2][3][4]

In 2009, the United States Congress directed the National Archives and Records Administration to review declassified intelligence records pertaining to the activities of the Nazis and the Japanese Imperial Government that was not processed in time for the Nazi War Crimes and Japanese Imperial Government Records Interagency Working Group's (IWG) final report in 2007.: pref.  The follow-up report from the IWG's Richard Breitman and Norman J. W. Goda included a discussion of Lebed's relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency during the Cold War.: pref.  In 1949 he emigrated to the United States and lived in New York. Through Prolog Research Corporation, his CIA-funded organization, he gathered intelligence on the Soviet Union as late as into the late 1960s. The CIA project name for the operation was AERODYNAMIC.[1]: 85ff.  The report stated that as late as 1991 the CIA, for fear of compromising the operation and triggering outrage within the Ukrainian émigré community, shielded Lebed from prosecution for war crimes by preventing the United States Department of Justice's Office of Special Investigations from learning about his wartime connections to the Nazis.: 90–91.  He died in 1998.[5]

In a government reports publication, published by the National Archives,[1] Lebed is being suspected of having collaborated with Nazi Germany.

Lebed was described as a "Ukrainian fascist leader and suspected Nazi collaborator",[8] and later labeled as a "well-known sadist (emphasis added; H.B.) and collaborator of the Germans" by the United States Army counterintelligence.[9]

To give the audience a feeling of how much of a sadist Lebed was, enough to note that the favorite instrument for interrogation of his victims with Lebed was a variety of hand saws.

Re: Is anyone going to point out that Ukrainian Right Wingers were marching in East Ukraine<…>?

They were marching in Kiev, Lviv, other places, what’s the difference?

Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists march in honor of Nazi collaborator[1]

KYIV, Ukraine — Hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists held a torchlight march in the capital of Kyiv to mark the birthday of Stepan Bandera, the leader of a rebel militia that fought alongside Nazi soldiers in World War II.

The Sunday march came amid persistently high concerns over Russia’s massing of troops near the Ukrainian border, which many believe could be a prelude to an invasion. A large sector of eastern Ukraine has been under the control of Russia-backed separatist rebels since 2014.

“Today, when there is a war with the occupier at the front, and the struggle against the ‘fifth column’ continues in the rear, we remember and honor the memory of Stepan Bandera,” said Andriy Tarasenko, leader of the nationalist party Right Sector.

During World War II, Bandera led the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose men killed thousands of Jews and Poles, including women and children, while fighting alongside Nazi Germany against the Red Army and communists.

Now to the most interesting part - why did Putin feel the need to act?

Very simple. By the most relevant streets rule: IF THE FIGHT IS INEVITABLE — STRIKE FIRST.

Donetsk: Evidence of Ukraine attack plans found based on NATO data.

Excerpt from the above link

Pushilin told journalists that in a staff of Right Sector, a Ukrainian Nazi organization fighting in the Donbas and linked to the so-called volunteer battalions, they found a notebook bearing a NATO registration and containing secret data. On it, he said, were data collected by U.S. spy drones that constantly patrolled the border of the Donbas, as could be tracked even on Flightradar. The nationalist forces of the Ukrainian Nazi battalions thus had direct access to NATO reconnaissance data on military objects in the Donbas and also in Crimea. Detailed maps had been seized.

This belies the statements of NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg, who has always claimed that there is no such cooperation between NATO and the forces in the Donbas. Moreover, data on the control of U.S. attack drones had also been found on the notebook, he said.

However, the most important thing, according to Pushilin, is that detailed plans for an attack on the Donbas and Crimea were also found on the notebook, according to which it was planned for March 8

dnivas: It's better to spend 10K lives now and get Ukr under control than wait anoher 20 years and lose all of Russia.

India should have done the same with the jihadis up north but somehow we missed that opportunity.

well said, saar. Putin did not have a choice other than invade ukraine now because of the above logic.

yogeshkumar wrote:On a positive news.. I saw a news where Indian Oil Corporation placed an order to buy 3 million tons of Ural grade oil from Russia. With a discount. Assuming true.. I say Good for India to do the right thing. Which is - secure cheap energy supplies.. and potentially pay in Rupees.

Here is the link:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy ... 022-03-14/

HOW THE MAIDAN REVOLUTION WAS ORCHESTRATED FROM THE US EMBASSY
dated 2017

In other bizarre news is Elon Musk calling out Putin in “single combat”. What does that even mean? Has Musk really started believing US propaganda to that extent?

The impact of Starlink on Ukranians is negligible to say the least and thats why Musk is being ignored (apart from by Dmitry Rogozin whose lunch SpaceX eats every day). Musk is surely aware that Russia has ASAT weapons?

Tanaji wrote:In other bizarre news is Elon Musk calling out Putin in “single combat”. What does that even mean? Has Musk really started believing US propaganda to that extent?

The impact of Starlink on Ukranians is negligible to say the least and thats why Musk is being ignored (apart from by Dmitry Rogozin whose lunch SpaceX eats every day). Musk is surely aware that Russia has ASAT weapons?

Elon musk is bit bizarre just look at his tweets I think he is referring to recent trend among influencers who have a feud to duke it out in the ring in ppv boxing fights, so he proposing one of his own.

Given those satellite are dirt cheap to put up using any missile to pop one down is not worth it, I think Chinese have better idea using satellite that deorbits other Satellites.

John ji, I agree with your influencer comment, its just bizzare Musk will stoop to that level.

Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) Tweeted: Police in Nizhny Novgorod arrested a demonstrator today for protesting with a blank sign. Welcome to Russia in 2022.

https://t.co/YprwDqex8V
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/statu ... pVwDqQoogA

A blank sign is not a blank sign these days -- it is a precursor to create memes with some random person holding a sign with photoshopped text. Next thing you know you have this woman in central moscow holding a sign that says whatever narrative needs to be spread. This women holding the bl;ank placard won't be doing Russian interests any favours.

For example, this claim by some western tool working for the FT -- the women who is reading the news does not even flinch when that alleged person is behind her allegedly saying stuff. The entire thing looks fake.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15 ... b3p90pAAAA

And the point being? No one ever, least of all Russians claimed that they were a paragon of free speech and liberty.

Perhaps we should put in links where US police execute no knock warrants and throw flash bang grenades in babies cots injuring them? Or the one where an off duty drunk officer enters a wrong apartment thinking its hers and proceeds to kill the legal occupant who was eating ice cream?

(Post was not directed to you srikandanji)

tanaji: (Post was not directed to you srikandanji)

of course, tanaji saar. Did not think it was. To your point, if Indian media started showing all the ugly american warts, like the miles long homeless people along highways in LA today, or the american underclass who are nomads because they cannot afford houses detailed in "Nomadland: Surviving America in the 21st century". Not doing so just makes it a whole lot easier for the racist jokers in the USA to pretend that their cr@p is perfume, and worse, have the Indians believe it is all true.

srikandan wrote:A blank sign is not a blank sign these days -- it is a precursor to create memes with some random person holding a sign with photoshopped text. Next thing you know you have this woman in central moscow holding a sign that says whatever narrative needs to be spread. This women holding the bl;ank placard won't be doing Russian interests any favours.

For example, this claim by some western tool working for the FT -- the women who is reading the news does not even flinch when that alleged person is behind her allegedly saying stuff. The entire thing looks fake.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15 ... b3p90pAAAA

in free Europe they are blocking even Russian Cats let alone Russian version or objective debate on TV. Which one is better?

We have seen this Paranoia in other forms - racism, lynching mobs, intolerant attitudes. This seems to be in the DNA of Anglo-Saxon breed and White Euros (non-Russian). This excessive vilification of all things Russian is going out of hand - this is not normal human behavior, this is beastly behavior.

John wrote:

Tanaji wrote:In other bizarre news is Elon Musk calling out Putin in “single combat”. What does that even mean? Has Musk really started believing US propaganda to that extent?

The impact of Starlink on Ukranians is negligible to say the least and thats why Musk is being ignored (apart from by Dmitry Rogozin whose lunch SpaceX eats every day). Musk is surely aware that Russia has ASAT weapons?

Elon musk is bit bizarre just look at his tweets I think he is referring to recent trend among influencers who have a feud to duke it out in the ring in ppv boxing fights, so he proposing one of his own.

Given those satellite are dirt cheap to put up using any missile to pop one down is not worth it, I think Chinese have better idea using satellite that deorbits other Satellites.

Is there no way to blind them using lasers?

True bravery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60744605

A woman holding an anti-war sign ran onto the set of a Russian evening news programme on the state-controlled Channel 1 on Monday evening.

The sign, clearly visible behind the presenter, read "no war, stop the war, don't believe the propaganda, they are lying to you here".
The woman has been named as Marina Ovsyannikova, an editor at the channel.

Russian TV news is tightly controlled by the Kremlin and only reflects the Russian version of events in Ukraine.

Ms Ovsyannikova is believed to be in police custody.

Her voice could be heard during the broadcast saying "no to war! Stop the war!", before the programme director cut early to a recorded news report.

Before the protest, which happened live on the nightly news programme, she recorded a video in which she called events in Ukraine a "crime", and said she was ashamed to work for what she called Kremlin propaganda.

"I'm ashamed that I allowed myself to tell lies from the television screen. Ashamed that I allowed Russians to be turned into zombies," she explained.

She called on the Russian people to protest against the war, saying that only they could "stop the madness".

Sure. It is in the BBC so it must be true. No need to apply common sense.

That's the telegraph another british source -- the tweet I posted earlier is the origin of this BS. The video is clearly manipulated given the complete lack of reaction from the reader when the woman starts yelling behind her, and other clues. Terrible even as fakes go. The standard MO of these anglo-saxons is to create a lie and then have "influencers" repeat it to other less influencers and so on down the chain, the same scam they run in academia as in "sooth asian studies" in the USA. Used to be a lot easier before social media surely.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/15 ... b3p90pAAAA