Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2010

[abhijitm]

chinese are really taller than their mountain friends.

[Dipanker]

Three held in Norway 'al-Qaeda bomb plot'

I am just quoting the portion pertinent to this thread:

Twin plots

On Wednesday, US prosecutors unveiled charges against four men wanted over a plot to bomb the underground system in New York.

They also brought extra charges against a fifth man who is awaiting trial over the alleged conspiracy, foiled last September.

Two other men, Colorado resident Najibullah Zazi and New Yorker Zarein Ahmedzay, have already pleaded guilty.

The US Attorney General, Eric Holder, has described the New York conspiracy as one of the most serious terrorist plots since the 9/11 attacks in 2001.

"The charges reveal that the plot... was directed by senior al-Qaeda leadership in Pakistan," the US Department of Justice said in a statement.

It continues: "[The plot] was also directly related to a scheme by al-Qaeda plotters in Pakistan to use Western operatives to attack a target in the United Kingdom."

One of those named by New York prosecutors is Abid Naseer.

The US is seeking the extradition of the Pakistan-born 24-year-old, who was arrested in the north-east of England on Wednesday.

Mr Naseer was remanded in custody by a court in the UK.

[anupmisra]

Pakistanis do not even hesitate to deny their part in their biggest accomplishment, the creation of Pakistan, and blame Congress for this, and this theory gathers more and more supporters as the people see their condition becoming increasingly unbearable.

I.A. Rehman in the Dawn.

Indians should celebrate August 13th as the "Getting rid of the riff-raff day", just in case the riff-raff decide to return.

[vic]

Punjab Govt inaction against terrorists irks GHQ

Pakistan Muslim League-N has earned itself a new and very powerful adversary thanks to its inaction against the ‘Punjabi Taliban’ -- the Pakistan Army.

It is now evident that the Punjab government led by the PML-N and the army, which is spearheading counter-terrorism operations, are on a warpath.

At a recent meeting at the General Headquarters (GHQ), senior intelligence officers conveyed their serious concern to the Punjab government over its failure to act against terrorists based in the province on the basis of information provided to it.

So, the battle lines are drawn and clear. It is the Punjabi Taliban & the Punjab Government Vs. LeT & PA. At the same time, the Punjab Government has been quite benign with LeT as well. It allowed Professor saheb to escape any detention. It has allowed LeT to pursue its activities without let or hindrance. It has even paid it ~80 million PNR to buy peace. After all, LeT's HQ is in the Punjab and it has sizeable following (still) and so it cannot be antagonized too. However, PML-N has recognized the growing clout of the Punjabi Taliban, however much they may hate that expression.

India counter terrorism will suceed against Pakistan only if we can do a Bhindrawala to Pakistani Punjab and bring islamic Maoists to Sindh

[ramana]

Punjab Govt inaction against terrorists irks GHQ

Pakistan Muslim League-N has earned itself a new and very powerful adversary thanks to its inaction against the ‘Punjabi Taliban’ -- the Pakistan Army.

It is now evident that the Punjab government led by the PML-N and the army, which is spearheading counter-terrorism operations, are on a warpath.

At a recent meeting at the General Headquarters (GHQ), senior intelligence officers conveyed their serious concern to the Punjab government over its failure to act against terrorists based in the province on the basis of information provided to it.

So, the battle lines are drawn and clear. It is the Punjabi Taliban & the Punjab Government Vs. LeT & PA. At the same time, the Punjab Government has been quite benign with LeT as well. It allowed Professor saheb to escape any detention. It has allowed LeT to pursue its activities without let or hindrance. It has even paid it ~80 million PNR to buy peace. After all, LeT's HQ is in the Punjab and it has sizeable following (still) and so it cannot be antagonized too. However, PML-N has recognized the growing clout of the Punjabi Taliban, however much they may hate that expression.

SS, What is the ideological dogma of the Punjabi Taliban aka Pakiban. Are they Salafist or Wahabandis? I think we are not understadning why PML(N) is supporting the Pakiban. I believe its the Salafist vs Deobandi fight that was predicted here a few years ago(circa 2007).

IOW, PML(N) sees the Pakiban(who are more green than the Deobandis) as a way to gain control of the Kabila and is not acting on the Pakiban. Recall Badmash got refuge in KSA a Salafist den.
The TSPA is a Doebandi organization and sees thru the antics of PML(N) and is complaining. I see this as a small step as the Wahabandi/Salafists try to snatch Pakjab away from the TSPA.

I dont think the TSPA is going to let go quietly. All the effort and visceration they put up with, was to create dominance for the Deobandi school in TSP. They wont let the Salafist (Johnny come lately)who came in during the Afghan Jihad snatch it away.

[Prem]

Still Doubt Pakistan is Islam and VV. But Christian Zakat / Aid /Donation / Loan/ Free Maal is ok for Muslim .
http://www.speroforum.com/a/36207/Pakis ... Christians

Anaheim (AsiaNews / ANS) - In Toba Tek Singh in Punjab, the local government forbids poor Christians from taking advantage of a meals service because of their faith. This is revealed by a survey Assist News Service, an agency of the Protestant community.
20 year old Christian Naqash Gill said: "I went to one of the stalls with some friends for a meal. There were four of us and we paid for the meal token. When food was being served, suddenly a security guard came out waving a gun, shouting, 'Hey, you Christians, you have to leave here. The meals are not for you'. " "We tried to speak to the manager, – he added - but the gunman continued to point his weapon at us and ordered us to shut up".
Ashiqi Masih, a poor man who is well known among Muslims for his Christian faith, decided instead to rebel against the discriminatory treatment. "I argued with the manager of the kiosk – he said - stressing that the government has never allowed discrimination against Christians. I said if this was their policy, why not put a sign on the stand saying: 'Only for Muslims ?".

[Prem]

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/58871
Pakistan’s “Strategic Depth” and endless war in Afghanistan

rrorist groups as a form of internal security. The oppressive Arab dictators would facilitate terrorist recruiting and training so long as they went off to wage jihad in Lebanon, or Palestine, or Israel, or anywhere else but at home. In doing so, they ensured that any violent radicals were engaged elsewhere, while clinging to scraps of Islamic legitimacy for their brutal police states. It is "strategic depth" for domestic purposes.
Pakistan’s calculation is just the same, only adapted to military and foreign policy. Pakistan is able to wage a war against India through terrorism and militancy (Taliban puppets in Kabul, LeT puppets at home), while maintaining some legitimacy with its own constituency (elite Punjabi Pakistanis). Furthermore, Pakistan’s military owned industries are able to win massive amounts of contracts and investments from the US and China among others, and in return offer up meaningless victories (capturing an Al-Qa’eda commander for the Americans, shutting down a Uighur training camp for the Chinese). All the while the Army safely maintains its truly-important insurgent assets for use against India. It is state-sponsored terrorism as foreign policy, and it’s been very successful for them so far.

Beyond the demands of Deobandi faith, igniting a religious struggle against popular Sufism is almost a tactical necessity. Fighting against the Pakistani army and Frontier Corps is not the same as battling the NATO and U.S. unbelievers in Afghanistan.The Pakistan Taliban are locked in a battle with the military forces of an Islamic state and need the trappings of a sustained Islamic religious struggle inside Pakistan in order to sustain its legitimacy, motivate its followers, and divide its opposition.In fact, attacking Sufi religious practices is probably integral to the entire Taliban strategy of polarizing Pakistani society by attacking a weak link—the popular but difficult to defend (on strict Islamic terms) worship of local saints whose interred bodies reputedly have magic powers.The central province of Punjab hosts several important Sufi shrines, raising the terrifying specter of attacks on heterodox religious practices in Pakistan’s heartland by an ostentatiously righteous, militant, and ascendant religious group whose stated mission is to rescue Islam not only from the West but from idolatry within its own

Al-Qa’eda can fully open the entire sub-continent as a theater for jihad, and coupled with the collapse of nuclear-armed Pakistan and the presumable Indian military response, we have the Clash of Civilizations. Pakistan vs India becomes Islam vs the Hindu Superpower. And stuck right there in the middle of it is 100,000 US troops in Afghanistan, soon to be controlled by a Taliban-Karzai power-sharing government, a puppet of Pakistan’s "strategic depth." To say it will be ugly is an epic understatement

[Rangudu]

Ramana

That report on TSPA getting "angry" at badmash/PMLN is likely a big exaggeration. One of the main reasons for inaction in South Pakjab is that the biggest presence there is from two of the closest TSPA proxies - pigLeTs and Masood Azhar's faction of JeM.

That said, there is a political/caste/sectarian angle here as well. PPP is historically supported by waderas and landed Shia and Sufi/Barelvi Sunni elites in Northern Sindh and Southern Pakjab. PMLN's base is largely petit Bourgeois Sunnis i.e. traders, small to medium land holders and the nouveau riche of the types who got wealthy by catering to the visiting Gulf Arabs. These guys increasingly became Deobandis during Zia's years and now form the core financiers of SSP/LeJ type groups. There is no way Nawaz will alienate his party's core, moneybag supporters.

[ramana]

R, There is no smoke without a fire. So most likely some displeasure was voiced. Its for us to understand why?
What I do think is of all Pak politicians the Badmash family is one that can snatch the kabila and supporting the Pakiban is one way.

I may be wrong.

Also how do we know that the support base of PML is still Deobandi and not getting Salafised?

Unionist Deobandi (Indian Deobandi)--> Extremist Deobandi (Pakibandi or Maududdi gang)-> Wahabandi (Deobandis with Salafists ideas) -> Salafists

[svinayak]

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/58871
Pakistan’s “Strategic Depth” and endless war in Afghanistan

Al-Qa’eda can fully open the entire sub-continent as a theater for jihad, and coupled with the collapse of nuclear-armed Pakistan and the presumable Indian military response, we have the Clash of Civilizations. Pakistan vs India becomes Islam vs the Hindu Superpower. And stuck right there in the middle of it is 100,000 US troops in Afghanistan, soon to be controlled by a Taliban-Karzai power-sharing government, a puppet of Pakistan’s "strategic depth." To say it will be ugly is an epic understatement

This is a fantasy and a fake. Several western analysts keep this as the end game but this is un realistic.
The western media can start this kind of slant and it has started it after Mumbai killings.

[anandsgh]

A pretty nice watch... Cowasjee is thrashing slowly slowly (Like Vajpayee ji) but hard..
http://pkaffairs.com/Play_Show_Aaj_Kamr ... _2010_9527

BTW, seems like "Managing Pakistan's...." thread is going faster than this parent thread.

[anupmisra]

Relatives question Pakistan army on militant killings
BeeB's article

Relatives of 23 suspected militants killed by Pakistani forces in the north-west on Tuesday said they were in custody at the time of their death.

The Pakistani military has been often accused of carrying out extrajudicial killings of Taliban suspects to avenge militant attacks on military targets.

The army launched an operation in Swat, Dir and some neighbouring areas last summer, forcing more than two million people to flee the region. Months later, the areas were declared "clear" and the refugees started to return to their homes. But sporadic attacks by suspected Taliban militants have continued.

"Most of them were school boys. Some got inspired by the Taliban and joined their training camps in Swat but were weaned away by their parents before they could get into real fighting," Saeed Gul, a local elder and former parliamentarian told the BBC.

[CRamS]

[This is a fantasy and a fake. Several western analysts keep this as the end game but this is un realistic.
The western media can start this kind of slant and it has started it after Mumbai killings.

Its also insulting to India, its insulting the intelligence of Indians, and it trivializes and contemptuously disregards the threat India faces from TSP. Its a way of saying, you little boys, join me in fighting the Al Queda monster, as all 3 of us are threatned. This was exactly Holbrook's formulation. (The TSPA/ISI bosses must have been laughing their asses off when Holbrooke was running around with this nonsense). TSP has no issue with this formulation because it sweeps its terror under the rug.

[Prem]

Question they should answer is What and who is Al Qaida? Islamist threat is not something new which we dont know how to handle. Staring at defeat, Loss of money and H&D they keep concoting many scenarios to solace themselves. They are confused now and imagine how confused and startled they will by in 2030>

[Satya_anveshi]

One astute observation made in one of the dawn articles (in this vagueness of citizenship of leadership article) is:

Pakistan Zindabad --> Pakistan se zinda bhaag

[RamaY]

Who is "Punjabi Taliban?"

Read it away... http://www.ctc.usma.edu/sentinel/CTCSen ... l2Iss4.pdf

[abhishek_sharma]

I used to think also that it doesn't effect me too Karthik, until few years ago a friend mentioned about the Nawaz Sharif letter ISI in his last term about being friends with India and create soft border. His argument was that Since Porkis and BDites are growing the population much faster then yindoo india, then instead of fighting with us why not just make a soft border and flood india from their population thus paving the way for whole islamized indian subcontinent. That was such a eye opener, meaning my grand kids probably will also face the same '47 thing as my father in another 30-40 years

Is this true?

[Suppiah]

The MQM - Pashtun hate relationship goes back to the earliest days of the launch of MQM in Karachi. The massacre let loose by the Pashtuns on the mohajirs in 1986 is likened by many next only to genocide in Dhaka by the PA.

And this is supposed to be a Sindhi city...

[Prem]

Recognising Taliban narratives —Gulmina Bilal Ahmad

The Taliban are very intelligently shaping the narrative and we are falling in line, so to speak. What is a Punjabi Taliban? Or for that matter a Pakhtun one? It is being turned into an ethnic fight based on narrow understandings and considerations of provincialism
Amidst this entire din, I stand fascinated and mystified. Fascinated at the PR management skills of the Taliban and mystified at our reactions. We are being led. Our adversaries are shaping our thought processes and understanding of the challenges that we are confronted with. The Taliban are very intelligently shaping the narrative and we are falling in line, so to speak. What is a Punjabi Taliban? Or for that matter a Pakhtun one? It is being turned into an ethnic fight based on narrow understandings and considerations of provincialism. As a friend remarked recently, previously on hearing news about a terrorist attack, one would pray that a Pakistani did not do it. Now one prays that it should not be a Punjabi.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_5

[Prem]

Indian Buses are better

ISLAMABAD – India-bound Pakistani passengers prefer to travel by Indian buses rather than their own country’s buses primarily because of their poor condition, which causes loss to the national exchequer.
Most of the time these passengers avoid availing the country’s service and prefer to travel by Indian vehicles from both sides, TheNation has learnt.
It may be mentioned here that in order to promote road travelling between Pakistan and India, the bus service between Lahore (Pakistan) and Delhi (India) was started on 16th March 1999 under an agreement between the two countries.
The service reportedly was suspended on December 2001 and restored in July 2003 and within three years two more buses between the countries including Lahore-Amritsar and Nankana Sahib-Amritsar was started.
Sources said that earlier the ratio of passengers from both sides was almost same but with the passage of time the number of Pakistani travellers kept on decreasing. Primarily, the condition of buses is believed to be the main reason, as Pakistani passengers prefer Indian buses because of their condition, they said.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... dian-buses

[Vivek_A]

Houris in heaven

The Punjab police have arrested eight men in connection with the Ahmedi massacres of a few weeks ago in Lahore. The men made some interesting confessions. Asked what had possessed them to kill innocent people, the men said they’d been told by their mentors and trainers in North Waziristan that they would earn merit in the Hereafter for killing Ahmedis. Specifically, they said they were told they would each get 70 houris who would be clothed in 22 layers of gossamer through which their perfect bodies would be visible. Asked by their investigators how they would do justlce to 70 women, the men said that Allah would give them the virility to cope with them.

Magic wand

Ever wondered about the magic wand a retired Brig seems to have? He now lives between London and Isloo but has been an arms dealer for the boys since the days of the late unlamented Tyrant Terry Thomas. Since then, billions of dollars worth of weaponry and parts have been bought by him for our great and glorious forces. Of course, there is no question of any “corrupt” civilian government or parliament ever asking questions about how much money was/is spent on what and why. Suffice it to say that the Brig has been best friends with everyone from Tyrant TT as of 1977 to Mush who’s reportedly in clover for the cuts he gets from the Brig.

Warlord par excellence

The great Sirajuddin Haqqani, supposedly a Pakistani “asset”, is a warlord par excellence. Our mole reports that he married off one of his daughters some time ago. The bridegroom was an Al-Qaeda Uzbek, also stationed in North Waziristan. The wailing woman came home a few days later and complained to her father that she didn’t know who she’d been married to since there were more than a few contenders for her favours. Mr Haqqani then surrounded the Uzbeks’ camp and massacred them all, to a man.

[Prem]

The Brelvi School has been identified by American think-tanks as worth encouraging because it is not political, and encourages people to follow Sufi practices, and thus does not emphasise jihad, as is done by other sects more involved to political Islam. The USA, perhaps, should realise that the Usmanlis perfected the use of Sufi orders for the propagation of jihad, and how all of Islam will lead to the same result. Though Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, it is very much a religion that does not leave this world alone. The apparent surprise at political Islam is a product of Western concepts of the place of religion, as something to be kept out of ‘this world’. Therefore, whereas it should be understood that the Data Darbar blast was not conducted by political Islamists, it should also be understood that attempts to divide the Muslims will not succeed, because they are Muslim, not despite.

The attack on Data Sahib
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... ta-Sahib/1

[Prem]

No compromise on water share: Shahbaz
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... re-Shahbaz

LAHORE – Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has pledged securing each drop of water without making any compromise on the issue. He vowed that the province will neither acquire water portion of any other province nor give up its own.
While speaking at the Punjab Assembly on a point of order here on Thursday and responding to the Opposition’s criticism regarding the Punjab’s water share, he held dictator (General (r) Pervez Musharraf) responsible for the problems being faced by the country regarding the distribution of water, saying that he violated all norms of justice and law in the formation of a purely technical institution, like IRSA. “The puppet government of that time should have raised its voice over this matter,” he continued, also vowing that he (Shahbaz) being the custodian of the rights of the Punjab also would protect its interests. “I will meet the Prime Minister along with a committee of the members of Punjab Assembly to plead case of Punjab’s water share and the Chashma Jhelum Link Canal. “Though the dictator, Field Marshal Ayub Khan compromised over the waters of Pakistani rivers, has died but the farmers of the country

[Vivek_A]

TFT



Civil-Military relations and Indo-Pak peace


Najam Sethi's E d i t o r i a l

In a recent TV interview, Mr Nawaz Sharif, has made some extraordinary statements which show that he has come a long way in understanding the nature of the Pakistani state and the core issues that confront it. More significantly, some of his current views are out of sync with the articulated positions of the post-Musharraf “national security establishment” or “state within the state”. This has implications not only for the development of a democratic culture and viable political system in Pakistan but also for Mr Sharif’s political career. Consider.

Mr Sharif wants enduring peace with India. He realizes that the conflict with India provides the military with its pre-eminent political raison d-etre (custodian of national security and national power) as well as the largest slice of the fiscal cake (at the expense of poverty alleviation and development) which gives it muscle. He is ready to solve Kashmir (“set it aside”) so that it doesn’t adversely impinge on India-Pak relations in the future. His proposed solution to Kashmir would primarily focus on what the Kashmiris in Srinagar want rather than the pro-Pakistan plebiscite that ideological and military quarters in Pakistan have always demanded. He says he set out to do this in 1999 when he invited India’s prime minister to Lahore. But this initiative was sabotaged by General Pervez Musharraf’s misadventure in Kargil, the subsequent coup against his government and the military’s belligerent approach to India. Mr Sharif was vindicated when General Musharraf did a U-turn in 2004 and embraced his peace formula with candid out-of-the-box thinking on Kashmir.

This view is now at odds with the post-Musharraf military establishment once again. Despite its avowed peaceable intentions, India is back on Pakistan’s national security agenda as a “core threat” because of its “military capability and cold-start doctrine”. Indeed, under instructions from GHQ, the Pakistani Foreign Office has formally repudiated the Musharraf doctrine while the Zardari government has meekly consented to a reversal of its old position under Benazir Bhutto, which was actually a precursor to Mr Sharif’s position in 1999. Thus, by an irony of history, Mr Sharif is now considered a “national security” liability much as Ms Bhutto was in 1988 when she first came to office.

The similarity doesn’t end there. Ms Bhutto tried to establish control over the military and build peace with India. But she was ousted in 1990 for being a “security risk”. Mr Sharif followed suit in 1999 and met the same fate. Mr Zardari made a move in early 2008 to rein in the ISI and talk peace with India. Today he is hopelessly besieged as a result of it. Under the circumstances, Mr Sharif has staked his political career by making such a bold statement. He should be commended for his vision.

[Vivek_A]

We knew Shrill is nuts...just how nutty?

very

US game plan

Even more chilling are the reports that the US is now planning to buy Governor’s House in Lahore. This would confirm the speculations that the American mercenaries are now being extensively employed in all major cities. It is therefore incumbent upon Chief Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif to personally intervene and stop the Americans from getting hold of as important a place as Governor’s House, besides containing the activities of these hired killers. Indeed, the scourge has already made its way to Lahore - Hummers carrying armed personnel violating traffic signals and trying to browbeat the policemen who stop them, large scale renting of houses in posh localities and suspicious looking foreigners taking snaps of sensitive security installations in Lahore are rather commonplace. Reportedly, it has been learnt that just a day before Data Darbar tragedy took place, some foreigners were taking pictures and seen to be carefully inspecting the site. It is also being alleged that the US military and its private contractors have acquired control of accomodation in the five star hotels in major cities and are keeping Afghanistan based militants there to cause unrest in Pakistan.

[A_Gupta]

Over the last 800 years, India was repeatedly attacked from the north-west. The conquerors grabbed lands and established feudal structures. However, except for the Mughals, others remained confined to the north, and south India suffered less destruction and feudalism.

Unfortunately, the one conqueror that established a modern state, the British, entered India from south and east rather than north-west. While colonisation’s overall impact was negative, the few good things that it brought — education, rule of law and the urban economy — spread inwards from south and east and reached current-day Pakistan last.

No wonder, the south and east produce India’s finest minds. The grass-root approach adopted by Congress, particularly Gandhi — going to villages to raise awareness — also helped in establishing democracy on a stronger footing than in Pakistan where the Muslim League co-opted feudal elements.

Niaz Murtaza in the Dawn.

One should ask him - does it mean Muhammad bin Qasim and his followers were total disasters?

[satyam]

World Bank approves $6.2 bn Pakistan lending plan(4 years)

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... /100746/on

[SSridhar]

Unionist Deobandi (Indian Deobandi)--> Extremist Deobandi (Pakibandi or Maududdi gang)-> Wahabandi (Deobandis with Salafists ideas) -> Salafists

Ramana, I will come back to the question you asked a little later. But, the above is an excellent summation of the progress made in Pakistan.

[abhishek_sharma]

Pakistani politicians: fake it to make it

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... to_make_it

[shravan]

Mohmand Agency: 45 People Killed, 100 Injured in a suicide attack in Tehsil Yakaghand, 70 shops destroyed: APA Yakaghand.

[naren]

Over the last 800 years, India was repeatedly attacked from the north-west. The conquerors grabbed lands and established feudal structures. However, except for the Mughals, others remained confined to the north, and south India suffered less destruction and feudalism.

Unfortunately, the one conqueror that established a modern state, the British, entered India from south and east rather than north-west. While colonisation’s overall impact was negative, the few good things that it brought — education, rule of law and the urban economy — spread inwards from south and east and reached current-day Pakistan last.

No wonder, the south and east produce India’s finest minds. The grass-root approach adopted by Congress, particularly Gandhi — going to villages to raise awareness — also helped in establishing democracy on a stronger footing than in Pakistan where the Muslim League co-opted feudal elements.

Niaz Murtaza in the Dawn.

One should ask him - does it mean Muhammad bin Qasim and his followers were total disasters?

More Gems.

Perceptively concluding that our failure has something to do with governance, we tried both dictatorship and democracy, but neither worked. This calls for an urgent analysis of why what works for swans does not work for us, and developing our own walk.

Here's a hint biradher - separation of church and state.

[Singha]

today being friday, 50 KIA in a suicide attack Mohmand agency. not sure who or why, not that it matters to the faithfool.

[Dilbu]

It is not counted as a friday in TSP until IED mubarak happens.

[derkonig]

Indian Buses are better
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... dian-buses

No doubt the Paqui buses must have been given in baksheesh by tallar mountain.

[Suppiah]

Since there have been periodic requests in this forum to condemn acts of terror in TSP (even though ALL of them are perpetuated by TSPA trained terrorists who forgot instructions not to eat and s..t in same place), I hereby STRONGLY CONDEMN this latest terror strike. why the f..k cant they do this in Pakjab?

[Suppiah]

Pakistani politicians: fake it to make it

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... to_make_it

Another valuable life lesson learnt from taller than mountain friend - if you got it, flaunt it, if you ain't then fake it.

[partha]

From Indian buses are better article -

with the passage of time the number of Pakistani travellers kept on decreasing. Primarily, the condition of buses is believed to be the main reason

This is incorrect. Paki travelers kept on decreasing because more and more are preferring to enter via LoC than by road on a bus.

[shravan]

Punjab Assembly passes resolution against media

LAHORE: The Punjab Assembly on Friday unanimously passed a resolution against the media for highlighting fake degree issue.

The resolution was tabled by PML-N MPA Sanaullah Mastikhel.

The resolution has deplored media for its attitude against the political figures and public representatives. It has also denounced the ongoing media campaign against the democratic institutions.

After passage of the resolution, the journalists gathered outside the Chief Minister House and chanted slogans against the resolution.

On Wednesday, several members of the provincial assembly severely criticized the media for its continuous coverage against the members of provincial and national assembly holding fake degrees.

[RajeshA]

US exit means Taliban’s entry by Kuldip Nayar: Dawn

The basic question remains unanswered: how to eliminate the Taliban who have made Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan their playground. They have killed hundreds of Pakistanis. There is no alternative to the Taliban’s elimination. And here India can be of great help. Both countries have to evolve a joint strategy to fight the Taliban who are threatening the entire South Asian region. It may appear as wishful thinking.

If the intelligence chiefs of India and Pakistan meet to discuss how the agencies can fight against terrorism effectively, some type of joint mechanism against the Taliban may become feasible. If nothing else, the two countries have to think of ways to fill the vacuum which the withdrawal of the American troops would create. If the Taliban are allowed to step in, it would affect the peace and stability of the entire South Asian region.

Yaar Kuldip, tu bhi na....

[Suppiah]

From Indian buses are better article -

with the passage of time the number of Pakistani travellers kept on decreasing. Primarily, the condition of buses is believed to be the main reason

This is incorrect. Paki travelers kept on decreasing because more and more are preferring to enter via LoC than by road on a bus.

Well that is actually a lot better than these animals coming by bus loads and not going back...