Pakistani Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar was quoted as saying that Pakistan had ended CIA drone flights from Shamsi airfield in Baluchistan province. A senior U.S. official disputed that statement, saying, "That's news to the United States," and suggesting that Mukhtar was trying to assuage anti-American sentiment and deflect public anger over the bin Laden operation. He continued: "Pakistani officials sometimes say things in public that don't exactly square with what they say in private to their American counterparts. They've expressed concerns at times about the pacing and the number (of drone attacks), and the U.S. has been sensitive at times. But the fact is that this program remains intact."
Pakistani officials charge that the strikes violate their sovereignty - even though they're launched from Pakistani territory- and are counterproductive because they've killed scores of civilians and created new recruits for the militants.
U.S. officials counter that they know of no civilian casualties in nearly a year, and that the number before that was extremely low. Peter Bergen, a Qaida expert who oversees the New America Foundation's drone attack database, said approximately 2 percent of drone strike victims - estimated between 1,557 and 2,464 people - have been noncombatants.
Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2011
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Drone strikes continue despite Pakistan's lying claims
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Islamic Republic of Pakistan financed "Lifafa Journalism" spreads to the US media
Lanny Davis who served as US President Clinton’s Special Counsel in 1996-98:
“It is not in America’s interests to alienate a democratic friend and ally like Pakistan, especially a nuclear-armed Pakistan that appears ready to turn away from the U.S. to China and perhaps, worst of all, to turn away from helping America in its effort to destroy al Qaeda and other terrorists in the region."
Read more:
We should be grateful to have Pakistan as an ally
Alternatively the article is available here as well though differently titled:
US Should Not Alienate Pakistan

Lanny Davis who served as US President Clinton’s Special Counsel in 1996-98:
“It is not in America’s interests to alienate a democratic friend and ally like Pakistan, especially a nuclear-armed Pakistan that appears ready to turn away from the U.S. to China and perhaps, worst of all, to turn away from helping America in its effort to destroy al Qaeda and other terrorists in the region."
Read more:
We should be grateful to have Pakistan as an ally
Alternatively the article is available here as well though differently titled:
US Should Not Alienate Pakistan
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When you make statement like these please qualify them with "IMO" or "IMHO" otherwise it sounds like you are making statement of facts. I am a fan of Christopher Hitchens and I disagree with you.CRamS wrote:It is, he is a great writer and I have always admired him, until his lost his mind and credibility to a large extent by supporting US/UK's gang rape and monstrous crimes against humanity in Iraq in broad daylight. You might also want to read Fair bimbo's critic of his peace and Acorn's rebuttal of her that A_Gupta posted a while back. I don;t think the official "South Asia" experts will agree with him, or they might, but won't let that cloud their current India TSP equal equal policy prescription.SSridhar wrote:That Christopher Hitchens article in Vanity Fair is truly remarkable.
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Firing in jubilation claims man’s life
TOBA TEK SINGH - A villager was killed as a result of firing in the air at a wedding ceremony in a Gojra. Amer Irshad Mughal was a guest at the marriage of Noman Zafar when his relatives started aerial firing. A bullet hit the deceased, injuring him severely. He was shifted to Gojra THQ Hospital where he succumbed to his wounds.
TOBA TEK SINGH - A villager was killed as a result of firing in the air at a wedding ceremony in a Gojra. Amer Irshad Mughal was a guest at the marriage of Noman Zafar when his relatives started aerial firing. A bullet hit the deceased, injuring him severely. He was shifted to Gojra THQ Hospital where he succumbed to his wounds.
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40 terrorists killed in Mohmand
ISLAMABAD: Troops backed by jets and helicopter gunships have killed as many as 40 terrorists in a restive tribal area bordering Afghanistan in the past three days, a military commander said on Thursday.
ISLAMABAD: Troops backed by jets and helicopter gunships have killed as many as 40 terrorists in a restive tribal area bordering Afghanistan in the past three days, a military commander said on Thursday.
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abhishek_sharma wrote:What I didn't know about Karachi: Insights into the future of Pakistan
Here are some of the other things I learned about Karachi and Pakistan.
--The military is the single largest property owner in the city, and control of land (not necessarily ownership) is the biggest game in town.
--At the time of the Pakistani independence, Karachi was majority Hindu. That changed quickly.
--Pakistan's parliament building and the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C. had the same architect. (One more Pakistani grievance against America!)

--The city's police answer not to the mayor but to the provincial government.
--Most of the city's violence is not related to Islamic extremism.
--Karachi has 70,000 Boy Scouts
--Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, owned 200 fine English suits. Also, he was Shiite, as was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, the most important leader of Pakistan since Jinnah.
--You always see news photographs of torched busses when ethnic violence breaks out because the bus business is seen as dominated by Pushtuns, and their busses are attacked in retaliation for the burning of shops.
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Feel free to disagree with me, thats a given. But what I stated about the horror caused in Iraq are facts or at least reflect reality, not a matter of opinion. And this is not some paranoid extremists talk, many mainstream commentators around the world have said the same thing. For e.g, former IAEA chairman Mohammed Al Beradai (sp?), Rachel Maddow on MSNBC etc said that Bush & Cheney should be tried for war crimes. So have many other legal scholars. Enough said, this is TSP thread.Dipanker wrote:When you make statement like these please qualify them with "IMO" or "IMHO" otherwise it sounds like you are making statement of facts. I am a fan of Christopher Hitchens and I disagree with you.It is, he is a great writer and I have always admired him, until his lost his mind and credibility to a large extent by supporting US/UK's gang rape and monstrous crimes against humanity in Iraq in broad daylight. You might also want to read Fair bimbo's critic of his peace and Acorn's rebuttal of her that A_Gupta posted a while back. I don;t think the official "South Asia" experts will agree with him, or they might, but won't let that cloud their current India TSP equal equal policy prescription.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
Pakis dished out 20K. The other 20K came from Chinis. In the hope that the genome would be taller than the tallest mountain and deeper than the deepest sea. After all they are the greatest mards.Mahendra wrote:Pakistan dishes out $40,000 from the US Aid that it receives to launch operation Genomino to counter the H&D loss caused by operation geronimo

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Pak flood fund raising app brings in $56
The figure is just 56 dollars. I did not leave out any zeros.
The figure is just 56 dollars. I did not leave out any zeros.
linkPakistani computer experts have developed a mobile phone game to help victims of last year’s devastating floods – but despite more than 90,000 downloads, only $56 has been raised.
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CIA shifts drone operations to Afghan bases
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... ghan-bases
Wool over one's eyes or have they really shifted?
Here is a conflicting news item (Both datelined 1 July 11)
US rejects demand to vacate Shamsi air base
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=17879
Both are datelined 1 July 11
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... ghan-bases
Wool over one's eyes or have they really shifted?
Here is a conflicting news item (Both datelined 1 July 11)
US rejects demand to vacate Shamsi air base
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=17879
Both are datelined 1 July 11
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
Zalmay Khalilzad in the Washington Post, the former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, Iraq and the United Nations during the George W. Bush administration, gets it 90% right and 10% wrong.
90% right is about what no other Washington DC voice has said before -- that it is time right now, right here, to read the Pakis the big riot act. Suffocate their money drip, if they don't behave. This op-ed today emphasizes that.
The 10% wrong is where he says that if the Pakis do turn turtle, and that if they do turn upside down & peachy bottom up in the face of the recitation of the said riot act, that then, the US should invest untold energies into solving the IndiaPakiSatan problem.
How to get Pakistan to break with Islamic militants
by
Zalmay Khalilzad, Thursday, June 30
Washington Post.
90% right is about what no other Washington DC voice has said before -- that it is time right now, right here, to read the Pakis the big riot act. Suffocate their money drip, if they don't behave. This op-ed today emphasizes that.
The 10% wrong is where he says that if the Pakis do turn turtle, and that if they do turn upside down & peachy bottom up in the face of the recitation of the said riot act, that then, the US should invest untold energies into solving the IndiaPakiSatan problem.
How to get Pakistan to break with Islamic militants
by
Zalmay Khalilzad, Thursday, June 30
Washington Post.
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r_subramanian wrote:Pak flood fund raising app brings in $56
The figure is just 56 dollars. I did not leave out any zeros.linkPakistani computer experts have developed a mobile phone game to help victims of last year’s devastating floods – but despite more than 90,000 downloads, only $56 has been raised.
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Must be after 10% took his cut?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
RoohAfza was an India brand from Hamdard, unfortunately our heros did not patent the product / register the trademark so Pakees launched a similar drink with the same name... made by one of the "Fauji foundation" units. I suggest checking the manufacturer before buying this product. I think now our guys have patented the stuff, got the trademark as well as the style/label registered.Ambar wrote:Yeah i read that. Strange, i always thought 'RoohAfza' was a Indian brand.A_Gupta wrote:Nadeem Paracha remembers a more civilized past:
http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/30/cult-pak ... art-1.html
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ISI aids & abets terror and yet US has no other option: US General
The above shows the utter helplessness and unwillingness of the US in tackling Pakistan. Pakistan has been successful in threatening the US, with a gun to the US head by putting a gun to its own head. The US realizes the duplicitous behaviour of Pakistan threadbare and yet it is unable to do anything about that.
If Afghanistan can be inflicted so much terrorism from Pakistan, the Americans need to realize how much more Pakistan is (and has been for three decades now) inflicting on India because India is the ultimate goal for Pakistan and Afghanistan is a mere stepping stone for the Indian pinnacle.
India, especially the present UPA government, must realize the limitations of the US in dealing with Pakistan. The world's lone superpower is unable to act tough with TSP even when they know that scores of US soldiers die and get maimed. SMK has just asked the UK to squeeze Pakistan as though the UK has any leverage with TSP. It is indeed the other way around as the UK wants Pakistani assistance in stopping terror visitations on their nation.
The retired General has made strong charges against Kayani specifically and Shuja Pasha indirectly. This is the strongest specific indictment of PA/ISI yet from the US. Several things should become clear now.Pakistan spy agency ISI not only aids and abets terrorist sanctuaries in the country, but also provides training and intelligence inputs to extremist outfits, a former top Pentagon general said.
Gen (rtd) Jack Keane also charged that Pakistan Army headed by General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, who once headed ISI, has been repeatedly lying to the United States on the matter.
But still, the retired American General argued that the US has no other option but to have strategic partnership with Pakistan, given its significance in the war against terrorism.
"The truth is, the ISI aids and abets the sanctuaries in Pakistan that the Afghan operate out of. They provide training for them, they provide resources for them and they provide intelligence for them. From those sanctuaries, every single day Afghan fighters come into Afghanistan and kill and maim us," Keane, said at a discussion on Afghanistan organized by the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think-tank.
"There's a direct relationship of ISI's complicity and the deaths of American soldiers and the catastrophic wounding of those soldiers. The chief of staff of the Pakistani military is complicit. He used to be the director of ISI. He put the guy in there who is in charge now and he has full knowledge of what I'm just describing," Keane alleged.
He said: "This partnership has got to be based on that harsh reality. There are two ammonium nitrate factories in Pakistan. 80 per cent of the explosive devices that are used to kill our soldiers, kill Afghan security forces and kill Afghan people come from Pakistan."
"All of what I just said to you, when we confront them with this, they lie to us. They lie to us just like the Soviet Union used to lie to us. But we have to have a relationship, in my judgment, that is based on the harsh reality and the truth and we go from there in developing this relationship," Keane said.
The retired US general said Pakistan is a country of strategic consequence - much more so than Afghanistan is - given the size of that population and the growing nuclear arsenal and the fact that there is a raging insurgency inside the country to destabilize it. "This is radical Islam who wants to take over that country, would have that nuclear arsenal. None of that could we permit to have happen."
"So we have to have a strategic partnership of some sort with Pakistan. But I think it got to be grounded, once and for all, on the truth. That's got to be the basis for this relationship. And sometimes, I'm not sure it is," he added.
The above shows the utter helplessness and unwillingness of the US in tackling Pakistan. Pakistan has been successful in threatening the US, with a gun to the US head by putting a gun to its own head. The US realizes the duplicitous behaviour of Pakistan threadbare and yet it is unable to do anything about that.
If Afghanistan can be inflicted so much terrorism from Pakistan, the Americans need to realize how much more Pakistan is (and has been for three decades now) inflicting on India because India is the ultimate goal for Pakistan and Afghanistan is a mere stepping stone for the Indian pinnacle.
India, especially the present UPA government, must realize the limitations of the US in dealing with Pakistan. The world's lone superpower is unable to act tough with TSP even when they know that scores of US soldiers die and get maimed. SMK has just asked the UK to squeeze Pakistan as though the UK has any leverage with TSP. It is indeed the other way around as the UK wants Pakistani assistance in stopping terror visitations on their nation.
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Likeminded US generals should come out together in joint statements demanding that the O-Team put Pak on the list of terrorist entities and that its duplicity should end,or US military and eco aid will end.The fact the precious US lives are being lost,and others severly maimed, because of Pak's chicanery surely must stand greater than any "strategic relationship" with it! These sensible US military and other reps in Congress and the Senate have to pull the plug on Pak.
The asinine US admin. does not realise how puny the Paki state truly is and that nuclear blackmail has never worked.If Pak even dares transfereing nukes to jihadis,it will become radioactive dust.That threat must be publicly stated.Secondly,the majority of Paki eqpt. is of US origin and the US can instantly cripple Paki m-capability.Let the Pakis run to China for sustenance.Even China cannot bail out Pak on its own.The Pakis have been bailed out by three sources,the US in the main,the Saudis and the PRC.A "two-legged" stool cannot stay upright!
The Indian community that has some influence with the US establishment should support these anti-Pak individuals and attempt to bring them together into a powerful lobby to end the appeasement of Pak once and for all.
The asinine US admin. does not realise how puny the Paki state truly is and that nuclear blackmail has never worked.If Pak even dares transfereing nukes to jihadis,it will become radioactive dust.That threat must be publicly stated.Secondly,the majority of Paki eqpt. is of US origin and the US can instantly cripple Paki m-capability.Let the Pakis run to China for sustenance.Even China cannot bail out Pak on its own.The Pakis have been bailed out by three sources,the US in the main,the Saudis and the PRC.A "two-legged" stool cannot stay upright!
The Indian community that has some influence with the US establishment should support these anti-Pak individuals and attempt to bring them together into a powerful lobby to end the appeasement of Pak once and for all.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
It is not surprising that Lt Gen Keane is the mentor of David Petraeus. Pakis don't like Petraeus (due to his tough stance towards Pakis) and he is the new chief of CIA. Paki lover Admiral Mullen retires soon.SSridhar wrote: The retired General has made strong charges against Kayani specifically and Shuja Pasha indirectly. This is the strongest specific indictment of PA/ISI yet from the US. Several things should become clear now.
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I am not a fan Mohammed Al Beradai (sp?) and disagree with the way you are wording it. Since gulf war II most of the Iraqis have been killed by Iraqi sunni muslims blowing up the shia muslims and vice verse, now that is more like the fact. Anyway TSP thread, so enough said.CRamS wrote:
Feel free to disagree with me, thats a given. But what I stated about the horror caused in Iraq are facts or at least reflect reality, not a matter of opinion. And this is not some paranoid extremists talk, many mainstream commentators around the world have said the same thing. For e.g, former IAEA chairman Mohammed Al Beradai (sp?), Rachel Maddow on MSNBC etc said that Bush & Cheney should be tried for war crimes. So have many other legal scholars. Enough said, this is TSP thread.
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Prof Unfair - on twitter probably about Lieven. Posted here for the characterization of LeT.
1 grouse w/ Lieven's otherwise superb book on Pakistan: very Panglossian view of army & always puts "democacy" in derisive quotation marks.
2nd grouse: comparisons to Mumbai ill placed. LeT does NOT do suicide attacks; rather high risk missions.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/06/ ... rterrorism
US National Strategy for Counterterrorism from the White House.
US National Strategy for Counterterrorism from the White House.
Even if we achieve the ultimate defeat of al-Qa‘ida in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater, an expanded and diverse network of terrorist groups determined to focus beyond their local environments is likely to persist . In South Asia Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LT)—the organization responsible for the rampage in Mumbai in 2008 that killed over 100 people, including six Americans—constitutes a formidable terrorist threat to Indian, U .S ., and other Western interests in South Asia and potentially elsewhere . U .S . CT efforts against LT will continue to focus on ensuring that the group lacks the capability to conduct or support opera- tions detrimental to U .S . interests or regional stability, including escalating tensions between Pakistan and India . Much of our effort against LT will continue to center on coordinating with, enabling, and improving the will and capabilities of partner nations—including in South Asia, Europe, and the Arabian Gulf—to counter the group and its terrorist activities
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Quoted from the Chai Ghar:Since the 1971 defeat of the Pakistan Army in East Pakistan, the trajectory of military supremacy was quite consistent. It is a separate matter that the 1971 moment arrived amid a complete information blackout in the western wing of the country. The West Pakistani newspapers were reporting victory, until the inglorious surrender of General Tikka Khan at today’s Ramna Park in Dhaka on December 16th 1971. Interestingly, the headline printed by daily Dawn on December 17th was: “War till victory”. A small news item below this vain headline read, “Fighting ends in east wing”
http://pakteahouse.net/2011/07/01/will- ... he-moment/
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honestly, howdafuk can she vouch for credentials of a group like that?A_Gupta wrote:Prof Unfair - on twitter probably about Lieven. Posted here for the characterization of LeT.1 grouse w/ Lieven's otherwise superb book on Pakistan: very Panglossian view of army & always puts "democacy" in derisive quotation marks.
2nd grouse: comparisons to Mumbai ill placed. LeT does NOT do suicide attacks; rather high risk missions.
this is not the first time she has dismissed mumbai.
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I haven't read Lieven's book, except the excerpts. So, I cannot comment on that. Any optimism expressed for the PA would be Panglossian. In fact, any optimism expressed for Pakistan itself is highly Panglossian. The latter is something that the likes of Ms. Fair would not want to recognize. What the heck, even a significant and powerful section of Indians do not accept that, leave alone Ms. Fair.A_Gupta wrote:Prof Unfair - on twitter probably about Lieven. Posted here for the characterization of LeT.1 grouse w/ Lieven's otherwise superb book on Pakistan: very Panglossian view of army & always puts "democacy" in derisive quotation marks.
2nd grouse: comparisons to Mumbai ill placed. LeT does NOT do suicide attacks; rather high risk missions.
As for referring derisively to 'democracy' in Pakistan, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. One section of the Pakistanis feel that democracy was unsuited for Pakistan and only a strong military hand can deliver goods. Another section feels that democracy is a conspiracy by the Western world to keep Muslims subjugated and a strict dose of Shariah would provide Deliverance from all ills. The only difference of opinion is whether it should be Salafi/Wahhabi/Deobandi Shariah or another version. That debate is going on now and soon we should have an answer. The people always welcomed military coups. It was another matter that they got disenchanted with it after sometime. They would then welcome 'democracy' only to get more disenchanted with it in double quick time than the previous military rule. They would then pine for a messiah from the military. All political parties sought the support of the military to dethrone a running opposition government. Political leaders cut deals with the Army Chief to continue in power even today. The Army Chief decides annual budget for his forces all by himself without consulting the political leaders. He decides the appointment and extension of key commanders and even himself and the democratic government is a mute spectator. The very first decade of Pakistan saw a dozen governments assume power. Constitution was rewritten four times and is still an imperfect document. Massive changes, even to the extent of uprooting the very character of it, are made to the Constitution every time somebody assumes power. Political leaders are exiled and then re-allowed at the insistence of friendly countries such as the US and KSA. The Supreme Court dishes out 'Doctrines of Necessity' to justify coup d'etat. The people of Pakistan themselves have no confidence that democracy would deliver in Pakistan. The very first adult-franchise General Election led to more than half of Pakistan seceding. Political leaders have been assassinated and their culprits never caught. Democratic leaders talk openly of jihad and terrorism against neighbouring countries and welcome terrorists as force multipliers. Democratic governments cannot control the armed forces and their intelligence agencies or the nuclear weapons or foreign policies. Such is the status of democracy in Pakistan. How can it then be referred to in anything other than derisive terms ?
Ms. Fair should not fault Lieven for such a derisive reference as after all the US had consistently worked to undermine democracy in Pakistan and foist the armed forces upon the people.
Oh. . . the LeT business. Ms. Fair is right about suicide bombing. She has been working strenuously to avoid any comparison between 9/11 and 26/11. She gets immensely offended whenever such comparisons are made. Those who watched her harangue on TimesNow channel a couple of months back would realize that. Of course, LeT does not support suicide bombing but they do send their cadres on suicidal missions, what Ms. Fair calls as 'high risk'. The calm voice with which Sajid Mir advised the Mumbai terrorist to accept death is a case in point. This fidayeen vs. suicide debate could be hair-splitting but to the country and the people at the receiving end of this terror, this academic hair-splitting does not offer any solace.
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From dawn on the US 'vacating' from Shamsi..
US must be crazy to fund a country where 3/4ths of the Onion fleet either are RPG'd by their own or take plunges into the ocean in there search for subs..Risky being an onion in Bakistan.
PS: When did that plunge happen?
However, he said, the US had agreed to provide three P-3 Orion surveillance aircraft. Pakistan lost three such aircraft; two were destroyed during a terrorist attack on the PNS Mehran in Karachi and another plunged into sea.
US must be crazy to fund a country where 3/4ths of the Onion fleet either are RPG'd by their own or take plunges into the ocean in there search for subs..Risky being an onion in Bakistan.
PS: When did that plunge happen?
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This is very offensive and the kind of wetsren propaganda that trivializes Indian deaths to TSP terror. In other words, whatever human rights violations west commits, one can rely on the Dipanker type SDREs to lap it up, but India has to endure the kind of "human rights" hectoring for not even a fraction of the wrong doing.Dipanker wrote: I am not a fan Mohammed Al Beradai (sp?) and disagree with the way you are wording it. Since gulf war II most of the Iraqis have been killed by Iraqi sunni muslims blowing up the shia muslims and vice verse, now that is more like the fact. Anyway TSP thread, so enough said.
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The Pakis! They dropped an "a" from that surrender park!
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Also folks all posts are mostly opinion unless providing a link or a quote.
So prefacing every post with IMHO/IMO is redundant.
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Also folks all posts are mostly opinion unless providing a link or a quote.
So prefacing every post with IMHO/IMO is redundant.
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SSridhar wrote
So they must necessarily fight it out.
The joy is that they cannot democratically decide which versionAnother section feels that democracy is a conspiracy by the Western world to keep Muslims subjugated and a strict dose of Shariah would provide Deliverance from all ills. The only difference of opinion is whether it should be Salafi/Wahhabi/Deobandi Shariah or another version.

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Some excerpts that I get from the daily Af-Pak email I recieve:
U.S. and some Pakistani government officials told Reuters Thursday that there were no plans to vacate the Shamsi airbase in Baluchistan, used as a staging point for drone strikes into Pakistan's tribal areas, while McClatchy's Jonathan Landay reports that Pakistan continues to quietly cooperate on the secret drone program (Reuters, McClatchy). Pakistan's information minister Dr. Firdous Ashiq Awan told reporters today that no demand had been made for U.S. personnel to leave the base (ET/Reuters). Meanwhile, the Tribune reports that U.S.-Pakistan strategic dialogue talks are "indefinitely" delayed as a result of the public tension between the two countries (Tribune).
And in Afghanistan's restive east, the region's police border commander resigned over the NATO and Afghan government's failure to stop rocket attacks from Pakistan, a charge made repeatedly by other Afghan officials (BBC, ET, NPR).
"Give Peas a Chance"
The British animal rights organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has written a letter to Pakistani president Asif Ali Zardari asking that they be allowed to paint murals and slogans on the side of Osama bin Laden's former compound in Abbottabad promoting world peace and veganism (Haaretz). The slogans would reportedly include "Give Peas a Chance - Go Vegan" and "nonviolence begins on your plate."(Remember that non vegs are more TFTA than Veggies?)
--Andrew Lebovich
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What a revolting woman. Apparently taking on the fully Indian armed forces is not a suicide mission. Whats the difference if you go down by a bullet or a explosive vest. As SS points out what she is trying to do is down grade 26/11 from the 'high' standards of 911. This is obviously an internal conversation that has gone on.A_Gupta wrote:Prof Unfair - on twitter probably about Lieven. Posted here for the characterization of LeT.2nd grouse: comparisons to Mumbai ill placed. LeT does NOT do suicide attacks; rather high risk missions.
Truly some one here memorably compared her to a dung beetle. You know, rooting amongst the dead bodies of terror victims.
We should hence forth call her 'Dung Beetle' Christine.
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Senora "Fair" has pretty obviously "gone native" it seems to me. Emotional investment and gets hurt whenever someone touches her munna with the truth.
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Well don't criticise the delicate darling. After all a suicide mission is a "high risk mission".UBanerjee wrote:Senora "Fair" has pretty obviously "gone native" it seems to me. Emotional investment and gets hurt whenever someone touches her munna with the truth.
I don't do rape. I merely enjoy vigorous non consensual sex. I'm not asking you to commit suicide. I'm just sending you on a mission where you will be killed.
Rhetoric and semantics means you have nothing to say but want to keep talking. We have those on BRF as well.
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shiv wrote:<SNIP> I don't do rape. I merely enjoy vigorous non consensual sex. <SNIP>






Shiv sir, even by your exalted standards, this is too much, I tell you!!!
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Interior ministry issues warning for 'sensitive' sites in Punjab
LAHORE: The Ministry of Interior has revealed that a Qari Imran Group plans to target six sensitive areas in Punjab, Express 24/7 reported on Friday.
A letter from the ministry sent to the Government of Punjab states Defence Club in Lahore, Police Training Centres and Allama Iqbal International Airport are the main targets of the terrorists.
Other targets mentioned in the letter are the Regional Police Officer’s (RPO) office in Bahawalpur and the Rescue 15 centre near Qila in Multan. The RPO office will be attacked with an explosive-laden vehicle, the letter says.
It also mentions that a female suicide bomber has been trained to attack Defence Club.
The group also plans on rescuing those accused of the attack on the Sri Lankan team. According to the letter, they will target the police van carrying the accused on the road between Anti-Terrorism Cell Chohang and Special Court Mustafabad.
The Qari Imran Group is believed to be based in interior Punjab.
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How many P-3s does PN actually now, given all the plunging and burning?Pakistan lost three such aircraft; two were destroyed during a terrorist attack on the PNS Mehran in Karachi and another plunged into sea.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
Wonder if she will tweet one of these days that 26/11 was a zionist-Hindoo conspiracy?Fair uvacha: comparisons to Mumbai ill placed. LeT does NOT do suicide attacks; rather high risk missions.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
a fart with a woman around it and call that christine.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
Onlee thing known about relation between Miss Fare and Mr/Miss F.U Mazari is that they aint exclusively Platonic . This garbage in , garbage out Fair deserve persona non Grata status here.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
this is my first post even though I have been a member for 4 years . I usually just read.
Not sure if any of you guys can post a video from www.colbertnation.com , but there is this excellent bit he did about pakistan in a segment called formidable opponent. It is a very accurate BRF esqe representation of the relationship between Pakistan, USA and the Terrorists.
I dont know how to post the video.
Not sure if any of you guys can post a video from www.colbertnation.com , but there is this excellent bit he did about pakistan in a segment called formidable opponent. It is a very accurate BRF esqe representation of the relationship between Pakistan, USA and the Terrorists.
I dont know how to post the video.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2
How did you avoid those purges that the great mahdi Rahul M has threatened everyone with??this is my first post even though I have been a member for 4 years
I ve been making silly posts in dark corners to avoid this --
You are a super raa agint to avoid adminullahs for sooo long.25 Jan 2009 Update: Purging of Recent Inactive Memberships
For New Members who registered in the last 24 days and did not make a single post
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