Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan-Nov 21, 2
Posted: 22 Nov 2015 08:27
Lot of Pakis among "Syrian Refugees".
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Jhujar wrote:http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-20493 ... aws:-NisarISLAMABAD: Inferior Minister, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on Saturday said that the procedure being followed to deport Pakistanis is tantamount to degrading humanity and an insult for Pakistani nationals.In a statement, Chaudhry Nisar expressed his dismay over the way Pakistanis were being deported, saying the relevant laws and agreements were not being followed in this regard.“Performance of some of the embassies is very disappointing viz a viz deportation of Pakistanis,” he amented.Chaudhry Nisar said the Interior Ministry has dispatched a communiqué to IOM, asking them to get clearance from the Interior Ministry before deporting Pakistanis.He said Pakistanis were deported from European countries in the past week without any advance information.
AFGHANISTAN: As the Taliban expand into his old stomping grounds in northern Afghanistan, former warlord General Abdul Rashid Dostum — who boasts of having a PhD in killing militants — is galvanising legions of devout followers and erstwhile foes for battle.The fearsome Uzbek general, who holds no formal military post, recently launched an offensive with loud, bellicose declamations against the Taliban, who are making surprising inroads into Faryab province as the insurgency’s centre of gravity shifts north from its southern strongholds.In a desperate effort to defend his home territory, he is activating private anti-Taliban militias in a risky gambit now commonplace across the embattled north.More significantly, the battle-hardened general, who has repeatedly switched loyalties over 40 years of conflict, is joining forces with a longtime rival in an unprecedented alliance.Uzbek militiamen loyal to his Junbish-e-Milli party are fighting alongside and sharing weapons and intelligence with Jamiat-e Islami, the Tajik-dominated party of the other main northern strongman — Atta Mohammad Noor, the powerful governor of Balkh province.“General Dostum is not an engineer, General Dostum is not a doctor, General Dostum has a PhD in eliminating the Taliban,” the ex-warlord said about himself earlier this year in comments cited in the local media.“I will bring the Taliban to its knees.”
”“But people have faith that Dostum will save our endangered land. Ordinary people are selling their cattle to buy weapons to fight for him.His biggest strength, both supporters and detractors agree, is his ability to inspire an army of supporters across the ethnic divide to fight for him — despite his intimidating personality.“He is a great motivator at a time when morale is sagging,” a Jamiat militia commander told AFP, declining to be named.“That really shows the power of Dostum. People worship him.”Loyalists and civilians in Faryab have almost mythologised the man, who they glorify for rising from extreme poverty to the heights of power.“He is known for frontal attacks on his enemies and showering wealth generously on his people,” said Habibullah Syed, police chief of outlying Andhkoy district.But his larger-than-life persona belies the extreme barbarities Dostum is well known for, including allegedly allowing hundreds of Taliban prisoners to be suffocated to death in shipping containers in 2001.It also strongly highlights Afghanistan’s warlord culture, where figures like Dostum remain potent and relevant despite a democratically elected government in Kabul.
Especially the one which French has not found yet .UlanBatori wrote:Lot of Pakis among "Syrian Refugees".
Government and private sector idiots have foisted the illusion in our minds that our salvation lies in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. How, when $11 billion for building the road is a government-to-government loan and $34 billion will be loans from private banks, probably Chinese, to private sector Chinese-Pakistani joint ventures mostly comprising coal-fired power projects that will add to pollution and climate change. Worse, we will import the coal from China. The Chinese partners will take all their profits, if any, to China while the cost of coal from China will be paid by Pakistan. Has anyone considered the quantum of the foreign exchange outflow and what it will do to our balance of payments?
China? Sure it has a large enough reserve to pay off our entire debt, but why would it? Or America write it off? Perhaps, but only they take our soul and also take with it our freedom, independence and sovereignty with it as collateral. We could become another de facto province of China or America, or even colony if you like. For beginners, they would take all our Public Sector Enterprises and more. They would literally own us and our country. I you want it, good luck, but let me tell you that China might prove to be toughest owners. Take your pick. Whoever pays off our debt and takes our irons out of the hellfire with also buy us lock, stock and barrel.
They can't be good Muslims can they?arun wrote:“SIX Brits are being quizzed by cops in Belgium as the country remains gripped by fear over an "serious and imminent attack".
The suspects - reported to be Pakistani-born UK nationals - were arrested after being spotted inside three old ambulances in Brussels, as the capital was on a full scale terror alert.
Not to mention the "tactically brilliant" Finance Minister's ( A Chartered Accountant no less and a relative of Ganja!) strategy ofGagan wrote:No one is paying off pakistan's debt or writing it off.
China is only trying to make them sink deeper in debt, while enriching chinese coffers during an economic slump. The CPEC will economically ruin El Bajistan!
For those who were skeptical yesterday on whether or not GOI can pull the rug from under BCCI:
"The matter is now political," Khan said on Friday. "Pakistan's prime minister Nawaz Sharif has directed us that any decision will now be taken by the government and not by the PCB."
So GaganJi, like you, even I am hoping and praying that GOI takes a tough stand.
Under the MoU both the boards had agreed to play six series between 2015-2023, with four series to be hosted by Pakistan.
But all series were subject to clearance from the respective governments.
I hope you are right, and if so, 1exp(∞) ++Gagan wrote:
BCCI however is a different entity. Its simply too rich, too powerful, and is trying to build its empire with the G-3 of the cricketing world. India won't play pakistan, I believe that things will pan out, that will stop this. This halla-gulla by the Pakis is because they are afraid that there is not going yo be any series.
So, all this coverage in the Paki Press was ISPR Propagandu?DID the extension just become a little less likely?
All week, you could sense something wasn’t quite right. Last year, DC was in love with Raheel. They grabbed his hand, they had their photo taken with him, they pinned a medal to his chest.
Part of that was normal: he was still relatively new and there hadn’t been a new chap at the helm in six years.
But still they have promised him some "Christmas toys" according to the Paki PressBut still — you could sense it was something more. The Americans don’t seem to be very impressed by the Cult of Raheel.
Anal-ist is hinting that the breaching of protocol by the "Bad Sharif" was not appreciated by the AmerikhansBefore he went, there was that business about him inviting himself. After he wrapped up his last meeting, the White House readout pointedly mentioned the other Sharif. And there was no medal or toys for him to bring back home.
It’s like the Americans are trying to say, look, we have business to do and we’ll do that business with you, but we prefer Pakistan as a democracy. So, let’s not fiddle around with that.
The Americans have always been the Sugar Daddy of the Pakis in spite of friendship with their new paramour - Chini BlothersBeyond that, there’s the relationship itself. The two Sharifs in DC three weeks apart has teased out at least one thing: the post-9/11 relationship is truly over.
For a decade and a half, the US has been the centre of our universe and we’ve thought that we are the centre of the American universe. But no more. That is both a good thing and a bad thing.
But then Pakistan has always done what its "masters of the day" wanted it to do, for a fistful of dollars.The problem is, you can’t really see Pakistan thinking about the next phase. Anywhere generally. Specifically with the US.
Sure, there’s this business about stabilising Afghanistan and all the CPEC goodness that will wash over us, but none of that was initiated or conceived of by Pakistan.
Confirmation that the so called dossiers were rubbishA scaled-down, security-centric, transactional relationship with the US still means it’s one of the fundamental pillars of our foreign policy.
But we only seem to leverage the relationship to complain about India. Like this business with the dossiers.
You can imagine American officials smirking in private — Pakistan wants to prove that India is a state sponsor of terrorism? Uhuh.
And we’re really only doing it because Modi made terrorism the one-point agenda with Pakistan.....
First, dismantling the TTP will have knock-on effects for non-states...
The Paki strategy of so-called tactical nuclear weapons?Second, full-spectrum deterrence has made the need for unconventional back-up against the Indian military threat less critical
So the trip was for seeking an approval for an extension for the Bad Sharif?But that would require creativity. And thinking. It’s so much easier to complain, though. And ponder an extension.
er didn't you say that you would be disappointed if Modi did not personally step in?CRamS wrote: even I am hoping and praying that GOI takes a tough stand.
ISLAMABAD – Minister for Interior Affairs Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on Sunday said that people of Pakistan and Bangladesh wanted to promote brotherly relations and move forward by forgetting bitterness of the past.
But a group in Bangladesh could not see restoring the atmosphere of brotherhood between people of the two countries, he said in a statement issued here. “We have the idea that who is behind that group, and it played what role in the incidents of 1970-71,” he added.
The Interior Minister should focus on his own country's persecution of minorities! Did he express the same sentiments when secular bloggers were butchered in Bangladesh !Being a Pakistani, he said he had the feelings that whatever was happening in Bangladesh, it was against and in violation of international laws and human rights.![]()
The minister said that murder of humanity and revenge to 'Pakistanism' should come to an end now. In next meeting of the cabinet, he said he would again take up the issue so that Bangladesh's revengeful policies could be contained. "Hearts of people of Pakistan and Bangladesh beat together and they want to see the two countries closer, no matter whatsoever jealous elements say,” he added.
More than 15 people have been convicted of ‘war crimes’ in a series of rulings handed down by two separate tribunals set up by Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed in 2010. US lawmakers – overseeing foreign policy – described the war crimes tribunal as very flawed and a means of political retribution. The State Department said that the executions should not take place until it’s clear the trial process meets international standards.
Vipul Ji :Vipul wrote:India beat Pakistan 6-2 in junior men’s hockey Asia Cup final.
This is a YYY conspiracy against Shitistan.
From what I'm told, they were simply asked if they were real Muslims. They said they were. The security forces laughed with relief and said "in that case you are free to go as those who are terrorists are not real Muslims".shiv wrote:They can't be good Muslims can they?arun wrote:“SIX Brits are being quizzed by cops in Belgium as the country remains gripped by fear over an "serious and imminent attack".
The suspects - reported to be Pakistani-born UK nationals - were arrested after being spotted inside three old ambulances in Brussels, as the capital was on a full scale terror alert.
Nope. Only upgraded F-16sUlanBatori wrote:This sets a new bar for Emergency Response: Ambulance gets to the site BEFORE the blast/ shootings etc. Only Pakistanis can deliver such Service - and do they get any tanks for it?
And the only option left to the poor TTP fellas to send out their message is to kill the messenger.The militants have lately expressed unhappiness at the lack of coverage given to them by the Pakistani media, following a boycott order by the country's powerful military establishment.
ISLAMABAD: The Milli Yakjehti Council (MYC), an umbrella organisation of religious parties from different schools of thought, has announced that it would oppose all measures taken to ‘liberalise’ (whatever that means in Pakanisatan !)
the country.
So, not punishing a person for killing another is considered "Islamic"?Promising to launch a drive for the protection of the Islamic ideology of Pakistan and threatening to initiate a million-man march across the country if their demands were not met, the council termed the Supreme Court’s recent decision in the Mumtaz Qadri case ‘un-Islamic’.
Members of religious parties and other right-wing groups took serious notice of a statement(veiled threat to Ganja?) made by the prime minister at an event held to celebrate the Hindu festival of Diwali on Nov 11 in Karachi.
But what does the Book have to say, about "interest payments" to "kuffar countries"He narrated an account of a meeting with Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, during the time when the PM was in exile in Saudi Arabia.
“Mian Sahib had vowed in front of me at the Masjid-i-Nabvi that if the Almighty gave him another chance, then he would eradicate interest-based economy from the country and implement Sharia law in Pakistan.”
So, the Mullahs now want a "even greener Pakistan"The meeting commenced with a debate over issues including the eradication of the interest-based economy — but representatives of religious groups failed to present any solution to the problems being discussed. Other agenda items included the condemnation of what it called obscenity in the country and countering conspiracies being hatched to amend the blasphemy law.
So, there were no "MQM Mullahs" demanding to lift the ban on Altaf Bhai's banishment from Paki media ? So, this was a strictly Pakjabi gatheringThe conference also mentioned a longtime demand of all religious groups – that obscenity on the media be stopped.
“The definition of obscenity should be defined in the light of the Holy Quran and Sunnah and a decision needs to be forwarded to Pemra (Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority) for implementation,” the declaration said.
The MYC also demanded that the government lift the ban on coverage of the JuD and the Falah-i-Insaniat Foundation.
Saar,eklavya wrote:http://reports.weforum.org/global-gende ... /rankings/
Pakistan only 1 spot away from achieving its ambition.
jrjrao Ji :jrjrao wrote:X-post.
Somebody must have taken away Gobar's whiskey bottle. Because he is writing sensibly, for once.
Behold the ‘beauty’ of democracy: death by a thousand debtsGovernment and private sector idiots have foisted the illusion in our minds that our salvation lies in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. How, when $11 billion for building the road is a government-to-government loan and $34 billion will be loans from private banks, probably Chinese, to private sector Chinese-Pakistani joint ventures mostly comprising coal-fired power projects that will add to pollution and climate change. Worse, we will import the coal from China. The Chinese partners will take all their profits, if any, to China while the cost of coal from China will be paid by Pakistan. Has anyone considered the quantum of the foreign exchange outflow and what it will do to our balance of payments?
China? Sure it has a large enough reserve to pay off our entire debt, but why would it? Or America write it off? Perhaps, but only they take our soul and also take with it our freedom, independence and sovereignty with it as collateral. We could become another de facto province of China or America, or even colony if you like. For beginners, they would take all our Public Sector Enterprises and more. They would literally own us and our country. I you want it, good luck, but let me tell you that China might prove to be toughest owners. Take your pick. Whoever pays off our debt and takes our irons out of the hellfire with also buy us lock, stock and barrel.
According to the official State Bank website, by June 15, 2015, Pakistan had accumulated a total external and domestic debt equivalent to US$195.647 billion. Of this $76 billion is external debt and rest is rupee debt. By now external debt is over a billion more. Our total debt stands at about 72.7 per cent of official GDP, Rs27,383.7 billion or US$269.02 billion whereas it shouldn’t be above 60 per cent under the Fiscal Responsibility Law passed during Musharraf’s time. Where is parliament?
Methinks TSPA has seen the Light. Gobar dare not drop his pants, briefs and all without due sanction from Bad Sharif!Come into India’s orbit of influence and let them deal with Afghanistan, the Indian Ocean and the neighbourhood.
And, of course, help America in Afghanistan. But America seems confused: it simultaneously tells us to kill the Afghan Taliban and at the same time to bring them to the negotiating table, a crass contradiction. Then they also say that the Afghan Taliban are their partners in peace. Most confusing. Make up your minds, friends. Know what you want. Do you?
6.2 magnitude earthquake hits north-west Pakistan
DAWN.COM — PUBLISHED ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO
A view of the earthquake centre. — Photo courtesy USGS.gov
A view of the earthquake centre. — Photo courtesy USGS.gov
Tremors were felt across north-western areas of Pakistan after a 6.2 magnitude earthquake struck Afghanistan's border area with Tajikistan late on Sunday, according to the Pakistan Meteorological Department website.
The epicentre of the earthquake was reported at a depth of 86 kilometres.
Did the revered Maulana hear things right? Maybe Nawaz promised to implement Sharia law in Pakistan?He narrated an account of a meeting with Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, during the time when the PM was in exile in Saudi Arabia.
“Mian Sahib had vowed in front of me at the Masjid-i-Nabvi that if the Almighty gave him another chance, then he would eradicate interest-based economy from the country and implement Sharia law in Pakistan.”
But just wait till next year, when the "gender gap" is likely to decrease, and the Pakis will surely jump up in ratings! Just the other day, Maryam Sharif ( PM in waiting to inherit the "family business" and unofficial incharge of "Women's Affairs" was gifted 20 Million by Massa for the express purpose of promoting girls' education (and indirectly closing the gender gap, making Pakistan "a little bit more liberal" and in the process incurring the "wrath" of the country's maulanas ); Of course, this is all providing that the funds are spend for that specific purpose, no ghost schools are built, and the moolah is not siphoned by Ganja & Co.Abhay_S wrote:Saar,eklavya wrote:http://reports.weforum.org/global-gender-gap-report-2015/rankings/
Pakistan only 1 spot away from achieving its ambition.
they have met their target 2*72 = 144![]()
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He has defined himself as a "liberal" ; now he is going to be on someone's "hit list" and an open target like Salman TaseerWOW...got a call from a news channel producer who asked me to come open about me being a Ahmedi. I am not Ahmedi. I believe that There is only ONE God and Muhammad (S.A.W) is his LAST & FINAL Messenger and Prophet. But I support Ahmedis and every other minority group's right to freely practice their belief and faith. PLEASE understand my fellow PAKISTANIS, ITS ISLAM THAT DEMANDS FROM YOU TO PROTECT THE MINORITIES NO MATTER WHAT. PLEASE UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE DESTROY OURSELVES.
CRamS has been there for longer than that in an older avatar, and I have supported him to the extent of opposing admin action against him. I have also been gentle in pointing out when he has been unfair and behaving MUTU.ramana wrote:Shiv, CRS is a member since 2006 and has >4800 posts. Evidence of interested behavior. If here were a US origin fake NRI he would have left long ago as many have done so.
Please stop taking it personal and live and let live.
ramana
Would you be kind enough to provide me with links to the Indian contact act so I can read it and educate myself? And of course pick holes in the argument if necessary?Pratyush wrote:Shiv, the position espoused by CRS is constant with certain provisions of the Indian contact act.
RamanaGaru, much appreciated for stepping in and attempting to put an end to this nonsense. I promised and continue to do, i.e., not dignify by responding to this crude personal piskological, illogical rants directed against me for some perverse reason, as it serves no purpose. I hope other admins will also step in and warn this ranter (and I have reported his abuse). Of course, should they chose not to, like you did, I respect that as well.ramana wrote:Shiv, CRS is a member since 2006 and has >4800 posts. Evidence of interested behavior. If here were a US origin fake NRI he would have left long ago as many have done so.
Please stop taking it personal and live and let live.
ramana