Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Ayesha Siddiqa To Become "Another Hamid Mir " ?
Concerns on safety and well being of writer-scholar Dr Ayesha Siddiqa
November 7th, 2016 | 2 CommentsPrepared by friends of Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa in Pakistan – Pak Tea House supports freedom of expression and would like to alert everyone that Dr Siddiqa might be in danger.
Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa is a Pakistani civilian military scientist, geo-strategist, author, former bureaucrat and political commentator. She is the author of Pakistan’s Arms Procurement and Military Buildup, 1979-99: In Search of a Policy (2001) and Military Inc: Inside Pakistan’s Military Economy, (2007).
Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa has recently reported on Indian surgical strikes in Pakistan dismissing the extreme narratives of both countries while supporting a middle ground truth based on her sources in the region.Over the past many days a vile, deliberate and dangerous campaign has been carried out with malicious intent, because of which many friends and well-wishers of Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa feel concerned about her safety and have been compelled to prepare a record of online harassment. Many of her well-wishers are of the view that the campaign seems to have been orchestrated by elements close to the establishment of Pakistan.This compilation is a working document and will be updated as needed. Input for this document has been sent by concerned Pakistanis around the world.
Summary of coordinated campaign against Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa
1) Lies started on blog and websites which hold pro Pakistani establishment views
2) Doctored images and fabricated facebook posts starting from pro-establishment accounts
3) Insinuations and direct allegations that Dr. Ayesha is an agent of an enemy intelligence agency and somehow linked with terrorism in the country.
4) Incitement to violence and hate
5) Calls for physical harm, death and punishment
Implications of these comments

Pakistan ranks 8th from the bottom on rule of law indicators, according to the World Justice Project. Even below countries such as Sierra Leone, Russia, China and Kenya. Many crimes committed in the country are motivated by hate and ideology. In the past few years, high-profile voices have been targeted by violence after accusations have been made against the individuals of being ‘anti-Pakistan’ or ‘anti-Islam’. Some victims, or their family members have made suggestions or accused the elements in the state of Pakistan were either complicit or involved in the crimes against Pakistani journalists and writers. In 2011, journalist Saleem Shehzad was killed. In 2014, Raza Rumi was targeted (he survived but his driver died in the attack). Also, in 2014, Hamid Mir was shot. He survived but still has three bullets in his body. In 2015, Sabeen Mahmud was killed in Karachi. Non state actors have been involved in some attacks but Mir accused the intelligence apparatus for the attack.

Action Demands:
Government of Pakistan must immediately act in accordance with law of the country. The actions of these individuals may be criminal under the The Cyber Crimes Act.
Appropriate measures need to be taken for safety and security of Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa and other academics, scholars and voices in Pakistan.
Main perpetrators
Zaid Zaman Hamid: ( where there is smoke, there is always fire) :D
Zaid Zaman Hamid incites hate in Pakistan against liberals and has been accused of taking money from Pakistani Intelligence Agencies, according to his ex-staff officer and media coordinator.
Zaid Hamid and his team famously fabricated Wikileaks and a web of fake websites which mirrored as legitimate newspapers and after the Guardian/Cafe Pyala expose were taken down.
Azhar Ayaz:

Ayaz is a who recently started his blog that is full of distortions. The writer has also targeted Pakistani journalist Cyril Almeida.(IMO, Cyril's # is going to "come first" !) Disconnected pictures, disjointed facts have been connected to create a false sense of reality, in an attempt to discredit the scholar.
The CJ Post:

A website claiming to be part of the “The CJ Media group” (with an empty about me section) and claims to have started in 2016. No public record of The CJ Media Group exist, after a quick search of the available public directories. The owner has also hidden their whole record using Whois Privacy Corp service.
(must be an "outfit" with "Deep State" roots!)
Social media campaign:

A well coordinated social media campaign under hashtag #AyeshaTheDrifter was started. The following people circulated images of an unknown origin. Many of the accounts of females appear to be fake profiles.
So, the "real powers" of Pakiland are "uncomfortable " that the "learned doctor" is not "buying their BS!"
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Growing liability: Govt piles on further debt of Rs858b from July to Sept
ISLAMABAD: The federal government has added Rs858 billion to its growing debt pile from July through September this year, which is almost double the amount authorities needed for budget financing, heightening risks attached to the country’s heavy indebtedness.

With an addition of Rs858 billion during the first quarter (July-September) of this fiscal year, the total central government debt, excluding liabilities, increased to Rs19.9 trillion, according to the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP). Of this amount, the domestic debt stood at Rs14.4 trillion while external debt was Rs5.5 trillion. Almost the entire increase came in the shape of domestic debt.
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Pakistan's Debt and Liabilities Profile

Cwapistan's Total Debt and Liabilities (I +II) : End June 2016 = Pak. Rs 22,461.8 Billion
@ US$ 1 = Pak. Rs 104.6978 Equates to US$ 214.54 Billion

Cwapistan GDP End June 2016 : Pak Rs. 29,597.9
Cwapistan Debt & Liabilities to GDP Ratio : 75.36%

If additional amount of Pak Rs. 858 Billion additional Debt accrued in July-September 2016 then the Total Debt increases to Pak Rs. 23,319.8 Billion and the Debt Ratio increases to 78.79%.
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India must compensate Pakistan...if doesn't want to play, says Najam Sethi
We have mentioned it clearly to BCCI and ICC in recent meeting that either India should play cricket with Pakistan or compensate us for damages
http://www.dawn.com/news/1295052/india- ... ajam-sethi
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Beggars will keep begging. If I am not mistaken these were just MoU's and have no legal standing.
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Atmavik wrote:
Prem wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1294999/kashmi ... aging-cpec
‘Kashmiri politician tasked with sabotaging CPEC’/quote]
The TSP Multimedia thread has a few videos of his programs
He is intresting fellow and have been wathcing him for coupe of years . He is not the only one who have realized the scam run by PAKIstan. Most of the Kashmiri in UK are now turning against Paki because of him showing them the reality in POK.
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Peregrine wrote:X Posted on PESW Tread
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GDP numbers are fudged. Last month Husain Haqqani mentioned actual GDP this year will be close to 220 Billion $.
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anupmisra wrote:India must compensate Pakistan...if doesn't want to play, says Najam Sethi
We have mentioned it clearly to BCCI and ICC in recent meeting that either India should play cricket with Pakistan or compensate us for damages
http://www.dawn.com/news/1295052/india- ... ajam-sethi
BCCI should write a letter saying " we will pay you on 1/1/2017 with 500 and 1000 RS notes :lol: "
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Peregrine wrote:X Posted on PESW Tread
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Prem wrote:GDP numbers are fudged. Last month Husain Haqqani mentioned actual GDP this year will be close to 220 Billion $.
Prem Ji :

In addition their Population now must be - at least - 225 Million as it was over 197 Million in 2011 and their Population Increase Annual Rate well is above Three Per Cent. As such their Per Capita Income is around US$ 1,000.
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Atmavik wrote:
anupmisra wrote:India must compensate Pakistan...if doesn't want to play, says Najam Sethi



http://www.dawn.com/news/1295052/india- ... ajam-sethi
BCCI should write a letter saying " we will pay you on 1/1/2017 with 500 and1000 RS notes :lol: "
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Peregrine wrote:
Peregrine wrote:X Posted on PESW Tread
In addition their Population now must be - at least - 225 Million as it was over 197 Million in 2011 and their Population Increase Annual Rate well is above Three Per Cent. As such their Per Capita Income is around US$ 1,000.
Pakita dilation happen for plussing Piggulation Yaan Pappu-lation. Using word like population make them almost human. Old way of counting Mlecchas was Nafri i.e how many were to be neutralize, sterilize or Exoricsed at particular point or time.
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^^ eggzactly the mofos don't even have a country let alone a GDP. After 1971 they use the same name. And still call a 3-nation theory a 2-nation theory. Soon it will be a 5-nation theory.

Right now it's a Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan soon it will be Fragments of Terrorist Sunnis
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UK nuclear report nails Pakistan’s lies, China’s complicity
Pakistan’s continued use of front companies and other deceptive methods to obtain dual-use goods for its nuclear programme means it cannot “expect to be welcomed” into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), a new report by experts at King’s College of London has said.The report contends that the scale of Islamabad’s procurement of sensitive material from Beijing is “so substantial that it must be concluded that the Chinese state is either complicit in supplying Pakistan’s programmes, or negligent in its control over state-owned enterprises”.
The Chinese are indirectly fighting India thru their surrogate - Pakistan !
Islamabad also maintains a network of at least 20 trading companies in mainland China, Hong Kong, Dubai and Singapore that it uses to “covertly funnel dual-use goods to its strategic programmes”.
Islamabad’s reliance on Beijing for sensitive technologies is “not surprising” as Pakistan is a strategic ally of China. “However, it does nonetheless raise questions about China’s commitment to the principles of the export control regimes which it claims to subscribe,” the report added.
There have been some reports that Pakistan is helping North Korea in building nuclear bombs and North Korea is helping Pakistan in missile technology.
Pakistan wants to expand its civil nuclear programme with outside assistance and “perhaps even to become a nuclear exporter” and “yet does not want to accept the international rules associated with responsible non-proliferation behaviour”, the report said.
Islamabad has rejected the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and Fissile Material Cut-Off Treaty and not signed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. “It continues to keep most of its nuclear fuel cycle off-limits to IAEA inspection. These refusals in themselves make Pakistan’s push to join the NSG hard to accept,” it added.Pakistan’s extensive procurements of dual-use goods from abroad suggests its “strategic industries are not as self-sufficient as Islamabad has long claimed”, the report said. Pakistan has named less than a dozen of the main organisations involved in its nuclear and missile programmes and it “has certainly not made reference to the web of clandestine front companies that these organisations use to conduct procurement
Pakistan wants to become the "Walmart" of nuclear technology !
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anupmisra wrote:India must compensate Pakistan...if doesn't want to play, says Najam Sethi
We have mentioned it clearly to BCCI and ICC in recent meeting that either India should play cricket with Pakistan or compensate us for damages
http://www.dawn.com/news/1295052/india- ... ajam-sethi
On Jan 1, India can send a truck load of 500 and `1000 rupee notes as payments.
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New York Times devastating cartoon on Pakistan

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LOL...the Porkis had been banking on Hillary to save them from the big bad Trump, despite the fact that Hillary would have also kicked them in the b0lls over terrorism :lol:

'Ab tera kya hoga kaaliya' moment for them now :twisted:
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But, this is not the first time that she has been threatened by 'the Angels'. When she brought out her famous book "Military Inc.", detailing the financial misdeeds of Pakistani armed forces especially through its non-military business activities, she was made to flee the country to cooler climes.
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Pakistan stocks plunge as Trump edges ahead
Pakistan equities slumped as Republican candidate Donald Trump appeared to be edging ahead of his competitor, Hillary Clinton, with the benchmark KSE-100 Index plunging as much as 761 points or 1.8% in early-morning trading.
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Joint China-Pak. counter-terror system to be set up - PTI, The Hindu
China and Pakistan planned to set up a joint counter-terrorism command system even as they held a bilateral anti-terrorism exercise, state media reported on Tuesday.

Their joint military exercise was carried out in a border region and involved elite commandos from both special forces, state-run China Radio International (CRI) reported.


The report quoted Rehang Aiming, a senior officer with the Chinese special forces, as saying that the troops also held in-depth discussion on a joint counter-terrorism command system.

“The Chinese and Pakistani forces have conducted in-depth and detailed communication regarding the subjects of construction of a counter-terrorism command system and use of tactics,” he said. — PTI
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Bart S wrote:LOL...the Porkis had been banking on Hillary to save them from the big bad Trump, despite the fact that Hillary would have also kicked them in the b0lls over terrorism :lol:

'Ab tera kya hoga kaaliya' moment for them now :twisted:
Hillary would have played the two-faced game that State Department has always played - talk big and condemn terrorism in words, but continue to sponsor Paki army and sundries in action. Besides with Huma as her Chief of Staff, Pakis would have done very well with her.

Now whether Trump will be good or bad is still unknown, but I am absolutely positive Hillary would have been at least as good as "business as usual" and probably much better, from Paki point of view.
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On the positive side, Trump's victory will enable "rich and educated" US-based pakis to move back to al bakistan.

Haram link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1295237/will-p ... r-pakistan
Back home
"Trump win good for Pakistan. Rich, educated Pakistanis will come back to Pakistan"

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anupmisra wrote:On the positive side, Trump's victory will enable "rich and educated" US-based pakis to move back to al bakistan.

Haram link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1295237/will-p ... r-pakistan
Back home
"Trump win good for Pakistan. Rich, educated Pakistanis will come back to Pakistan"

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Baki's have this ability to spin anything such that one never knows if it's real or a joke. When (not If) they lose the province of Sindh they will say it's good now Pakjabis will stop eating paapad.
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I wish Modiji celebrated Trump's victory by delivering some tender loving care across the border over night using some additional surgical strikes.
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Rishi Verma wrote:
anupmisra wrote:On the positive side, Trump's victory will enable "rich and educated" US-based pakis to move back to al istan.
:rotfl:
Baki's have this ability to spin anything such that one never knows if it's real or a joke. When (not If) they lose the province of Sindh they will say it's good now Pakjabis will stop eating paapad.
This Fart-rukh Saalim now host TV show with Ayaz Amir , Pacca BakistaniBacchaByBrain.
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Peregrine wrote:Pakistan stocks plunge as Trump edges ahead
Pakistan equities slumped as Republican candidate Donald Trump appeared to be edging ahead of his competitor, Hillary Clinton, with the benchmark KSE-100 Index plunging as much as 761 points or 1.8% in early-morning trading.
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They slumped because of demonetization
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I think these 2 events, DT presidentship and Modi taking away ATM card from Jernails to cause havoc in India might have saved NS from being kicked out.

Talking to few carpet sellers from Kashmir, Rumor is that Pakis have pumped in about 550 crore rupees to sustain the current state of paralysis in Kashmir. With one stroke Modi ji has made all that money redundant and one side effect of this Surgical strike would be Kashmir situation going back to normal for next couple of years. After all you dont throw stones with empty stomach.
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Pakistan won't be able to copy new notes: Intelligence agencies - Neeraj Chauhan, ToI
Intelligence agencies vetted the new denominations of Rs 2,000 and Rs 500 notes asserting that its security features will be next to impossible to replicate for Pakistan and organised criminal networks for some time to come.

A top government official without going into the details, told TOI that external intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing, Intelligence Bureau and the DRI examined the features on the notes being secretly printed for the past six months. The official refused to reveal the number of security features on the notes but said they were difficult to forge.

The intelligence community had earlier informed the government and RBI that Pakistan had a dedicated mint in Peshawar where only fake Indian currency notes, mostly in Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 denomination, were being printed.

Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI, which oversees the mint, uses organised networks including those run by its clients like Dawood Ibrahim, LeT, besides international criminal networks to push fake currency into India.

In a report to government and RBI, intelligence agencies had claimed a few years ago that Pakistan machinery had achieved "zero-error counterfeit capability" in printing fake Indian notes.

According to an estimate, Rs 70 crore worth FICN is pushed every year by Pakistan into the Indian economy, which was used as 'terror fund' and to spearhead disturbances.


MoS for home, Kiren Rijiju, said the government move would lead to closure of fake currency "press" in Pakistan.
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Pakistan has used the Bangladesh, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Vietnam, Nepal & UAE routes to send fake Indian currency notes (FICN) into India to fund terror activities as well as to subvert Indian economy. As these routes came under closer scrutiny by Indian intelligence agencies, Pakistan began routing FICN through China, Colombo & Turkey. India’s National Investigation Agency (NIA) revealed in May 2012 that Pakistan’s diplomats in Dhaka, Bangladesh were involved in FICN using diplomatic bags.The fact that these FICN are printed on genuine currency-quality papers that are available only to governments and are also difficult to detect because of their resemblance to the original, suggests involvement of the Pakistani state in printing and circulating them. We now know that the Government of Pakistan has set up printing presses at Peshawar and Malir, Karachi to print FICN.

From a ToI report of c. 2014
In a thorough forensic examination presented to the Special Court in Mumbai in February 2014, the NIA nailed the Pakistani Government’s involvement which hitherto had been only intelligence revelations. During examination of the samples of FICN as well as the legal tender of neighbouring country, most of the pivotal parameters of the paper like gram per square metre (GSM) of the paper, wax pick quotient, poly vinyl alcohol, PH value etc were found matching with the legal tender of that country. GSM is an important indicator about the density of paper. Various currency papers have different GSMs. The surface sizing is almost similar. "The similarity in the furnish used (100% rag content), PH of the paper and surface sizing (presence of poly vinyl alcohol) clearly indicates that similar manufacturing process has been adopted in case of FICN and legal tender of that country. The aforesaid facts clubbed with presence of see through registration features, quality of the printing of the FICN, presence of security thread which appears to be inserted at the time of manufacturing of the paper, use of numbering box in printing the numbering panel of the FICN etc points towards the neighbouring country as a source of FICN.

During the investigation by NIA, it was revealed that FICN of denomination of Rs 1000 of 2AQ series seized in this case were also recovered at the Kochi currency chest of the RBI. To cast the investigation net wide, NIA then took samples of FICN seizures made across the nation. Samples were taken from seizures in Chandigarh, Chitradurga (Karnataka), Kashmir, Thane (Maharashtra), Badwani (Madhya Pradesh), Vasco (Goa) and Bhopal. These samples were sent for RBI's opinion which said many covert features of genuine Indian currency were successfully imitated, and could have been achieved only through highly sophisticated machinery available with sovereign governments. Similar opinion was given by experts of Bank Note Press (BNP), Mysore. To get more clarity, samples were sent to SPMCIL (Security Printing and Minting Corporation of India Limited) which prints currency and stamps in the country to match them with currencies of other countries to find out where they were coming from. The SPMCIL found the currencies matching those printed in Pakistan. Comparing FICN with Pakistani currency, the SPMCIL report said, "The PH value of the paper used in legal tender of that country and one used in FICN samples is same i.e. 5-5.5. The gram per square metre (GSM) of the paper used in FICN samples and that in legal tender of that country was found to be similar. The caliper value measured in both the papers (FICN and legal tender) has similar range." An earlier report on the same notes by SPMICL had said, "After thoroughly examining the FICN it can be concluded that the notes have been printed on highly sophisticated machines which a common man cannot acquire since such machines involve huge capital investment. The pulp found to be 100% rag in the FICN which is normally used in making currency papers. The perfection of window and watermarks formation indicates the manufacture of FICN paper on regular currency making machines which can only be owned by a country/state."
It was in c. 2010 that India decided to approach the multilateral Financial Action Task Force (FATF), which combats global terror financing , with hard evidence linking Pakistan to financial fraud and terror financing. However, China stands solidly behind Pakistan in FATF. Apart from FICN, it has also come to light that Pakistani madrasseh are engaged in massive trade-based money laundering (TBML) [2206] to fund the terrorist groups.
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^^ So we have zero ground intel on the actual printing presses and everything we know is only via the siezed notes and carrying the hunch from there?

I was hoping we would have ground assets having already surveyed the place and maybe picked up a plate or 2 from the place for us to examine closer. Maybe been watching too many spy movies lately~!
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NSG membership must for Pakistan: FO official - DT
Membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) is imperative for Pakistan's recognition as a responsible nuclear state and access to sophisticated nuclear technology.

This was stated by Director General Disarmament at Foreign Office Kamran Akhtar while speaking at a round-table discussion organised by Strategic Vision Institute (SVI) on 'India's NSG Politics'.


The discussion was held on the eve of NSG consultative meeting (November 10) and informal plenary session (November 11) being held in Vienna for deliberations on the membership of non-NPT countries.

The meetings are unlikely to end the stalemate on the issue of non-NPT states as a group of NSG members are insisting on setting up criteria for admission of non-NPT countries, whereas some others want the NPT requirement to be met. Akhtar was of the opinion that even if Pakistan does not get admitted into the 48 member cartel controlling the international nuclear commerce at this stage it should continue its efforts for inclusion in the group.

"If we don't get admitted in NSG now, we should not give up our pursuit. In the longer run we need recognition and access to technology," he said and underscored the importance of building a positive narrative about Pakistani nuclear program instead of it being just about weapons and war" he said.


He cited examples of Pakistani efforts to cooperate with other countries on peaceful applications of nuclear energy. {What about other non-peaceful kinds of cooperation? In fact, how can Pakistan even collaborate on peaceful applications of n-energy? It does not have any design, fabrication or erection capability for any any nuclear reactor.}

"This would help Pakistan be seen as a contributor to the achievement of sustainable development goals," Akhtar said.
The calls by some of the NSG members for developing equivalent criteria for non-NPT countries, he believed, suited Pakistan as it was better placed to meet it in terms of coverage of civilian nuclear facilities, safeguards agreements, and openness to consider commitment to non-testing of nuclear weapons.

The director general advised that Pakistan should continue signaling, to the proponents of the criteria based approach, its willingness to adhere to the deciding factors they agree.

"Only once they are encouraged, they would see some incentive in pursuing this exercise otherwise they would just give up," he observed.


SVI President Dr Zafar Iqbal Cheema said that India's alone entry into NSG would put back Pakistani efforts for developing its infrastructure and industry by decades {How?}. Therefore, he maintained, such an eventuality would have serious consequences for national security and economic and industrial development. He observed that India was one of the worst proliferators, but Pakistan could not capitalize on it.

He recalled that India once had scornful disdain for non-proliferation regimes, which has now been conveniently forgotten by the world. Speaking on the occasion, Dr Zafar Nawaz Jaspal said US support for Indian candidature was motivated by its political and strategic interests.

He said despite lack of progress towards consensus, India and its backers pushed for a second meeting of NSG this year on the issue to weaken the opposition to Indian candidature, besides keeping the issue alive. SVI in its recommendations noted that NSG membership was more than a matter of prestige for Pakistan and was vital for its socio-economic and technological development.
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Guys, remember a while back, many forum long-timers and otherwise intellectual heavy weights were piling on me to suggest that:

1. Kirket is a big leverage India has over TSP

2. And yes, its is a stated policy of Indian govt to not play TSP

And why? Because IMO

1. Kirket reinforces equal equal and worse this crap: "India and TSP are brothers who enjoy kirket and Bollywood" but for "extremists on both sides"

2. Kirket is a huge money laundering business filling the coffers of TSPA/ISI/RAPE thugs

Thus, I will posit that among all the levers India has over TSP, if any, kirket is one big one that has been effectively used by ModiiJi. And it should continue that way. See the following begging spectacle by Hajam Soothi asking India to clarify whether or not India wants to play TSP, as if there has been any ambiguity to date. But I am not mighty happy with the following quote citing the begging Soothi:

http://sports.ndtv.com/news/pcb-asks-bc ... me-cricket

I met the BCCI President, Anurag Thakur on the sidelines of the ICC meeting in Capetown and asked him whether India wanted to play with Pakistan or not," PCB's former chairman and head of executive committee, Sethi, told the media in Lahore.

"He didn't give a straight answer and in fact he has floated some ideas which it would not be fair to discuss at this forum now," Sethi said.
Wonder what stupid ideas did Thakur float? The only simple and straightforward idea is to lock up pigLeTs, hand over Hafeez pig, Azhar pig, Dawood pig, Salahuddin pig etc. There should be no other idea but this.

How long will it take for Indians to realize that TSP policy is to maintain this Janus-faced approach, promote areas of cooperation like kirket, Bollywood, and pee-pee-contact (which mightily benefits them) while waging a pigLeT war on India until it gets Kashmir? You still have morons in India who cling to this rubbish that pee-pee contact and politics must be separate.
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Yea, because of the MoU we have to play cricket with the Pakis but they have to host it. But it is already established that we can refuse to play in crapistan because of the security. So they offered change of venue to some of their forefathers' land. But AFAIK the change of venue has to be mutually accepted. So Pakis have no basis for compensation until they can make their sh*tland secure, which is never.
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X Posted on Analyzing CPEC Thread

Gwadar Port opening on Sunday

ISLAMABAD: The civil and military leadership of China and Pakistan will open international port at Gwadar on Sunday. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif will see off Chinese containers leaving for Africa.

Heads of the armed forces, diplomats, chief ministers of Balochistan and other provinces and other dignitaries will be invited for this event in the next 48 hours.

Defying designs of India and its allies, loading of 300 containers will be completed on Saturday and they will depart from the port the next day.

To counter Gwadar, India has invested $12 million in Iran’s Chaubahar port, which is no match to Gwadar port. Balochistan Chief Minister Sanaullah Zehri is going to China on invitation next month.
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Pakistan's "Chai -Pani" From "Massa" Now In Danger ? :lol:
Donald Trump gives Pakistan jitters for his tilt towards rival India
Islamabad: Donald Trump’s surprise election as US president has Pakistanis wary that he may accelerate what they see as a shift in American policy to favour arch-foe India in the long rivalry between nuclear-armed neighbours, analysts said on Wednesday.Historical allies in the region, Islamabad and Washington have seen relations sour over US accusations that Pakistan shelters Islamist militants, a charge Pakistan denies.
They hit new lows in May when a US drone killed the leader of the Afghan Taliban movement on Pakistani territory.
IMO, Trump's pro - India stance will be restrained due to S.D and Pentagon bureaucracy!
To many Pakistanis, Trump’s anti-Muslim rhetoric—he once proposed banning Muslims entering the United States—and business ties to India are signs that his administration could shift further toward New Delhi.“America will not abandon Pakistan, but definitely, Trump will be a tougher president than Hillary Clinton for Pakistan,” said Hasan Askari Rizvi, Lahore-based foreign policy analyst.“I think India will have a better and smoother interaction compared to Pakistan.”
Trump has yet to lay out a detailed policy for South Asia, although he recently offered to mediate between India and Pakistan over the Kashmir dispute.He also told Fox News in May he would favour keeping nearly 10,000 US troops in Afghanistan “because it’s adjacent and right next to Pakistan which has nuclear weapons.”
( I don't blame the President- Elect for being paranoid about this- in view of Pakistan's track record of nuclear proliferation !( NK, Iran, Libya, S.A. )
On Wednesday, a US diplomat in Pakistan sought to assure the country that Trump’s election did not signal a drastic policy change.“Our foreign policy is based on national interest and they don’t change when the government changes,” Grace Shelton, US Consul General in Karachi, told Geo News television.Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif congratulated Trump.“Your election is indeed the triumph of the American people and their enduring faith in the ideals of democracy, freedom, human rights and free enterprise,” Sharif said in a statement.
(Strategically, the Pakis have now "hitched" their wagon towards the Chini-blothers- away from US- but they still need their "Moolahs" for day to day survival :D )
“Trump is a bit of a wild card,” said Sherry Rehman, a Pakistani senator and former ambassador to the United States.“Pakistan obviously cannot rule out engaging with whomever America elects, but his anti-Muslim rhetoric may cast a shadow on relations in times of uncertainty.”
( IOW, need the dough, for day- to- day survival !)
Prime Minister Narendra Modi also congratulated Trump on Wednesday.“We look forward to working with you closely to take India-US bilateral ties to a new height,” Modi said in a tweet
Shaurya Doval, director of the India Foundation, a think-tank close to Modi’s government, called Trump’s election “a very positive development”, but added that India and the United States would have continued to grow closer under a Hillary Clinton presidency as well.
“My sense is that India-US relations are not dependent on individuals - there are strong institutions and processes there,” he said.
Trump will also have to decide whether to maintain the number of US troops in Afghanistan or change the scope of the mission, 15 years after a US-led campaign toppled the hardline Islamist Taliban government.
I don't think that the new US administration will tolerate Pak perfidy
The Taliban on Wednesday urged Trump to withdraw all US troops.“They should not cause damage to their economy and their military in this failed war,” Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said of the American government in a statement. Reuters
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CRamS wrote:

Wonder what stupid ideas did Thakur float?
Never believe what a paki says. specially when it is a slimy bleeding heart libtard like Sethi.

Srinivasan used a big danda with him. i am sure Anurag will do the same.
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Manohar Parrikar today said something like No First Use can be dropped in some cases. Muddy the waters more is a good thing for already edgy pakis.
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sum wrote: I was hoping we would have ground assets having already surveyed the place and maybe picked up a plate or 2 from the place for us to examine closer. Maybe been watching too many spy movies lately~!
Does anyone use "plates" any more for printing?
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Govt will examine further options and take steps accordingly on Indus Waters Treaty: MEA. #IndoPak #IWT
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India takes strong exception to World Bank decision on Indus Waters Treaty

NEW DELHI: India on Thursday night took strong exception to the World Bank's "inexplicable" decision to set up a Court of Arbitration and appoint a Neutral Expert to go into Pakistan's complaint against it over Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric projects in Jammu and Kashmir.

Surprised at the World Bank's decision to appoint a Neutral Expert, as sought by the Indian government and at the same time establish a Court of Arbitration as wanted by Pakistan, India said proceeding with both the steps simultaneously "legally untenable".

"Inexplicably, the World Bank has decided to continue to proceed with these two parallel mechanisms simultaneously. India cannot be party to actions which are not in accordance with the Indus Waters Treaty.
"The government will examine further options and take steps accordingly," External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup said.

Under the Indus Waters Treaty, signed between India and Pakistan and also the World Bank in 1960, the World Bank has a specified role in the process of resolution of differences and disputes.

Swarup said on the issue of differences between India and Pakistan on Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric projects under the Indus Waters Treaty, India had asked the World Bank to appoint a Neutral Expert to resolve the differences of a technical nature which are within the domain of a neutral technical expert.

Pakistan had sought the establishment of a Court of Arbitration, which is normally the logical next step in the process of resolution in the Treaty. The Neutral Expert can also determine that there are issues beyond mere technical differences, he noted.

Pakistan has raised objections over the design of the hydel project in J&K, saying it is not in line with the criteria laid down under the Indus Water Treaty between the two countries.

"The World Bank has decided to proceed with both steps simultaneously. It was pointed by the government to the World Bank that the pursuit of two parallel difference/ dispute resolution mechanisms - appointment of a Neutral Expert and establishment of a Court of Arbitration - at the same time is legally untenable," Swarup asserted.

Noting that despite India's clear advice not to proceed with both together, the World Bank has decided otherwise, thereby, raising questions over the "viability and workability" of the 56-year-old Treaty.
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I think Indian bank notes are printed in Switzerland. How come baki's have such sophisticated press? If they have such technology then why not print dollah and buy muft me ef sollah?
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