Bharat Rakshak

Tamang wrote:If emergency (to tackle "Hindu Terror") were to be declare tomorrow I am sure psec media will lap it up, supported by the intellectuals, human rights walas etc.

BTW, the yahoo link did not have complete text, remaining from here...


So UPA is going all out against Sangh and its affiliated organisations. We shouldn't underestimate the extent they can go to achieve their goals, since coming to power they have tried every trick through the Governers in various states to ensure that NDA doesn't get to form governments easily.

shiv wrote:

vsudhir wrote: An emergency?

Emergency requires cojones. Only Indira Gandhi had them and she is dead.

Malegaon probe: ‘Purohit could even be eliminated by ATS’

he could even be eliminated by ATS because he was in possession of Intelligence data of a sensitive nature pertaining to the SIMI and ISI operations, which could embarrass some quarters

ramana wrote: And N^3 the meeting s to announce the decision already reached. Hence the charade of all those DGPs and Jt directors. It gives a pretense of delibration.

Giving a new twist to the Malegaon blast case, prime accused Lt Col S.P. Purohit on Wednesday alleged in a Pune court that he was being victimised for 'political reasons' as he was in possession of information pertaining to SIMI and ISI that could embarrass some quarters.

Purohit's counsel Srikant Shivde alleged that the officer was in possession of Intelligence data of a 'sensitive nature' regarding SIMI and ISI operations and could even be eliminated.

Placing before court certain documents, the defence counsel said they were citations of praise bestowed on the valour displayed by Purohit while nabbing terrorists who tried to infiltrate from the LOC during his posting in the valley.

"Even ATS officials had invited him to deliver lectures on combating insurgency in August 2005 and thanked him saying that they had benefited by the interaction," claimed the counsel, sending ripples in the court room.

ATS runs out of ammo

TN Raghunatha | Mumbai

But needs 3 cases to book Purohit under MCOCA

Shrikant Shivde, defence counsel for key Malegaon blast accused Lt Col Prasad Purohit, on Wednesday alleged that by seeking custody in different cases, the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) was desperately trying to invoke the provisions of Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act (MCOCA) against his client. {Please Note that Abu Salem is not being charged under MCOCA}

On a day when First Class Judicial magistrate (JFMC) GG Itkalkar remanded Purohit to police custody in a forgery and cheating case till November 21, Purohit's counsel charged that by demanding his client's police custody repeatedly, the ATS wanted to show Purohit had committed more than three offences so that it could project him as a member of an organised crime syndicate, a pre-requisite for booking a person under MCOCA.

Purohit's counsel also charged that the ATS was drumming up charges against his client. Given his exceptional credentials as a serving Army officer who had participated in many military operations, including operation Vijay and Operation Rakshak, and had killed many terrorists during his career, it was sad that the ATS was terming Purohit as an anti-national, defence counsel said.

Purohit's counsel also produced a set of commendations and a document showing that he had been invited by the ATS to deliver a lecture on terror combat techniques.

Alluding to a complaint filed by a Pune resident against Purohit that the latter had produced fake documents to help the former obtain an arms licence, Shivde said that Pune resident Shirish Date had with the help of Purohit got an arms licence way back in 2005, why did not the ATS not take action against the complainant assuming that he did not possess a valid arms licence.

Dwelling on the manner in which his client was being harassed by the investigating agencies, Shivde told mediapersons that the CBI and Haryana police had at one stage handed out deaths to Purohit.

Ahead of the production of Purohit before Pune's Shivajinagar court, there were hundreds of activists belonging to various Hindu organisations raising slogans expressing their solidarity with him.

As he was being escorted back to the ATS van after the court remanded him to police custody for two days in forgery and cheating case, the Hindu activists showered rose petals on the officer and raised slogans of ''Jai Bhavani, Jai Shivaji'' and "Purohit Tum Aage Bado Hum Saath Hain". Giving a new twist to the Malegaon blast case, Purohit on Wednesday alleged in a Pune court that he was being victimised for "political reasons" as he was in possession of information pertaining to SIMI and ISI that could embarrass some quarters.

Purohit's counsel Srikant Shivde alleged that the officer was in possession of intelligence data of a "sensitive nature" regarding SIMI and ISI operations and could even be eliminated.

Meanwhile, a Pune court remanded Abhinav Bharat activist Sameer Kulkarni, an accused in the Malegaon blast case, to police custody for a day in a case involving the alleged attack on a Christian leader in 2007.

The remand felicitated the Khadki police to question Kulkarni for a day in question with in connection with a case lodged against him in 2007 for allegedly being a part of the group that assaulted Pastor Peter David Silway of Vineyard Workers' Church.

Like in the case of Purohit, hundreds of activists belonging to Hindu organisations had turned out in a large numbers to express their solidarity with him. They raised vociferous slogans for Kulkarni.

Meanwhile, the probe into how Hindu outfits accused of terrorism had links with some Armymen brought a few business houses under the scanner of Maharashtra's ATS and Central Security agencies investigating the finances of the group allegedly responsible for Malegaon blast. Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was one of those who collected funds from the business houses.

Working on the chain of events about finances of the Abhinav Bharat, a little known saffron outfit allegedly involved in the September 29 Malegaon blast that left six people dead, sources said names of some of the business houses in Maharashtra as well as Gujarat cropped up. A check was being done whether the business houses were aware about the end use of funds. "We have questioned some of them and we are working to ascertain as to how much of money had been handed over to the saffron outfit," a senior probe official said on the condition of anonymity. The names of the business houses were not divulged for security reasons, reports PTI.

Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was one of those who collected funds from the business houses.

Satyajit Joshi , Hindustan Times
Pune, November 20, 2008
First Published: 01:43 IST(20/11/2008)
Last Updated: 02:07 IST(20/11/2008)

CBI threatened to kill me: Purohit

Lt Col Srikant Prasad Purohit, one of the prime accused in the Malegaon blast case, told a Pune court on Wednesday that the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and Haryana police had threatened to kill him in an encounter.

Purohit was produced before Judicial Magistrate (First Class) G.G. Itkalkar here for allegedly procuring an arms licence for Pune-based Shirish Date by using fake documents. Purohit has been granted two days police custody by the court.

Contesting the forgery case, Purohit also claimed that he was falsely implicated in the Malegaon case, and anti-national elements, like the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI), were pleased with his arrest.

In Delhi, a Union home ministry official, who did not wish to be identified, negated a public prosecutor’s charge in a Mumbai court that Purohit was involved in the Samjhauta Express blast. He said, “Investigations are on to gather evidence although news reports are making definitive statements on his involvement.” {Is the ATS feeding the press or is the press feeding the ATS?}

Earlier, Purohit’s lawyer Srikant Shivde pointed out that Maharashtra anti-terrorists-squad (ATS) had not followed the Supreme Court guidelines while arresting him. Purohit’s family members, lawyer, friends or relatives were not informed about his arrest, his medical examination was not done and there was no entry of his arrest in any police station.

Shivde also alleged that the forgery case was fabricated as the ATS wanted more time to prepare a charge sheet under the Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act.

Earlier, Shirish Date alleged that he had paid Purohit Rs 20,000 to obtain a licence for his revolver. But after learning of Purohit’s involvement in the Malegaon blast case, he decided to check the authenticity of his licence and discovered that fake documents had been submitted. He then voluntarily came forward to file the complaint.
(With inputs from Political Bureau)

Malegaon Blast: Crime Trail of Terror
By Mustafa Khan

As investigations into recent bomb blasts are still underway and it is difficult to prove what we write howsoever we may try to be objective there is still the emergent need for introspection that cannot be denied to journalism. Whatever you read between the lines may open up a new vista which may have till now been choked up by the 'dumping of toxic feelings" by leaders and religious biased groups. Much of the coverage on Malegaon is bound to generate heat in debates and discussions where cool-headed analysis in the national interest is required.

The evolving scenario makes one wonder as to what has been happening when we were 'sleeping'. Therefore we walk a tight rope in dealing with bomb blasts and the cases of Sonal Shah, now on the advisory committee of President elect Barack Obama.

It is reported in a Marathi daily of Malegaon that Sadhvi Pragyasingh has confessed that foreign fund was used in the bomb blast in Malegaon. This contrasts with what has been reported that Lt Col Purohit had misappropriated military intelligence fund. Both the sources of funding are serious and dangerous for the country. They involve fraud nationally and internationally that goes against the grain of the army that has had world opinion on its sides till recently as far as discipline is concerned. Therefore the necessity of each one accused in terrorism facing scrutiny at all levels and from all angles.

Purohit had taken Rs 20,000 from Mr Shirish Yeshwant Date who had family acquaintance with him for getting him licence for arms. Purohit supplied false information by giving bogus documents stating that Date lived in the defence colony of Deolali, Nasik. This fraudulent means of getting money is debauchery.

Mystery surrounds the arrest of Sudhakar Chaturvedi who was arrested from Dadar railway station on November 4 with a country-made revolver and a fake army identity card. If Purohit could give fake residence certificate that Date lived in defence colony of Deolali he could provide fake army identity card as well. It is reported that he not only knew the Malegaon conspiracy but was very much present in Malegaon itself.

BJP is the only political party that boasts a separate retired army personnel cell. One such retiree is the chief minister of Uttarakhand B C Khanduria retired Major General. Another retired officer and BJP member, Sabyasachi Bagchi proudly says that RSS develops the character of the young people. It is this character building that makes them good soldier. If this were so why has the training of RSS gone haywire in the case of Purohit? Of greater concern is the interference of the party and its ideology in the armed forces through this association.

SS Raikar of Bhonsla military school is also a retired person rom the army. He allowed the school premises for terror, hatching conspiracy as well as arms training and providing accommodation.

The former governor of Jammu and Kashmir SK Sinha has allegedly allowed Dyanand Padey to stay in the official residence.

Why have these army men behaved the way they have done? A neutral source retired Lt Gen V.R. Raghavan, former director-general of military operations blames "ultra nationalism of a narrow kind" responsible for the criminality of the contaminated serving and retired army officers. Thus what Bagchi says is eyewash.

No less is the case of Sameer Kulkarni who had taken deposit money from a customer to provide him a computer. Failing to supply he issued a cheque as the customer threatened him. The cheque bounced. The police registered a case against Kulkarni.

Dyanand Pandey's first appearance in the court on November 17 is of grave import as he broke down and begged that the court should rather hang him but not touch his laptop. What is there in the laptop that he should be so much concerned about it? A popular news channel probed the matter and believes that the Pandey must have stored nude pictures of women and great men of his acquaintance. This bonanza of ***** is bound to shame him along with all those who figure in the collection. The police again used the old technique of retrieving the deleted files for clues. Or is the suspicion real that there is similar delay here as it was in the case of Purohit's laptop. The delay in finding the laptop was a ruse behind which lies the real intention of deleting the more serious files?

Pandey had harboured criminals in his ashram in Dhand, Ahmdabad. It is also believed that Ramji Kalsangar alias Ramnarayan Singh was sheltered there. On Friday November 14 2008 Dyannd Pandey committed perjury by saying that he was not Dayanand Pandey but Amritanand Dwivedi. He has other aliases as well and that is why the Kanpur judicial magistrate Mukesh Kumar Singh on Thursday noted the multiple names adopted by Amritanand while granting transit remand to ATS as he felt certain that Dayanand Pandey, Sudhakar Dwivedi and Swami Amritanand Dev were aliases of the same person who heads the Sharada Sarvadnya Peeth in Jammu.

His craze to false identity is venal as he was in Gorakhpur in 2006 at the invitation of BJP MLA Shiv Pratap Shukla as Jagatguru Shankracharya. He fled when a man asked about his identity. Murkier still was his craze to meet devotees only at night when he was in Faridabad staying at Mata Mandir as self styled Jagatguru Swami Amritanand Devtirth Maraharj.

He also committed embezzlement as president of f Sharda Peeth of Jammu where he called himself Swami Amritanand. He was thrown out of the Peeth. But he was so Machiavellian that he soon started Sharda Sarvgya Peeth of his own and called himself Swami Amritanand Dev Teerth.

A fuller list of his crimes should make the BJP and RSS and other right wing affiliates of the sangh parivar sit up and face the nation to clarify whether they still want identity based politics and governance. Will they still misappropriate funds raised in the US in the name of relief and divert it to buy pouches of food and wine and distribute cash for those who perpetrated the pogroms in Gujarat 2002 with connivance of the government of Narendra Modi?

Ramesh Upadhya's stalking a woman and giving her phone number on website as a call girl and also cheating the woman through the matrimonial site by showing that he was 37 and not 57 have a damaging effect on the kind of people in the sangh parivar.

These disrepute people under prosecution threaten to lower the position of India in the world opinion thanks to the sangh parivar's involvement. If a serving lieutenant colonel of the Indian army is supplying 60 kg of RDX for terrorism that too against visiting Pakistanis then in what way are the ISI and extreme Hindu groups different in ideology and practice. On November 15 the ATS claims that the bomb blast in Malegaon is linked to the February 7, 2007 blasts on Samjhauta Express carrying Pakistanis because RDX was used in both the incidents. But two days later it allegedly changes its stance under the goading of the Intelligence Bureau. All through the government of India has been blaming the ISI of Pakistan for all the blasts in the country and especially the Samjhauta Express blasts.

As to the foreign funds used in Malegaon attack it is necessary to look at how the funds end up in India, the real end users. There are documented proofs that huge amounts of money collected in the US go into the accounts of VHP and other conglomerates of RSS. Sonal Shah and her father Ramesh have been in the core group of VHPA [America] and have been instrumental in sending fund under the name of Eklavya Vidyalaya for backward tribals. But the real use is not to ameliorate the lot of the tribal people by educating them, it is rather to convert them to Hinduism if they are animists or have taken to Christianity. In the recent anti Christian riots in Kanthamal of Orissa and other parts of India it is this fund that played havoc as it did in 2002 against the Muslims of Gujarat. The backward community of Charras was roped in by the RSS to wreak "vengeance" on the Muslims by slaughtering them. This confession is caught on camera and no action has been taken as if that was not terrorism.

George Fernandes had asked the army chief, the Air Marshal, and the Admiral to report the Kargil war to MPs. When the three went to the place it was the party office of BJP. That is how the sangh parivar interferes in the affairs of the armed forces, directly.

Malegaon blast: Another accused reveals Muslims assembled bomb
20 Nov 2008, 0243 hrs IST, Pranati Mehra and Mateen Hafeez, TNN

MUMBAI: Sudhakar Chaturvedi, Abhinav Bharat national coordinator who allegedly participated in the Malegaon blast conspiracy, revealed during a narco-analysis on Tuesday that that some Muslim boys had assembled the bomb that was planted near the Simi office in Malegaon on September 29. The blast killed six persons.

Lt Col Shrikant Purohit, Major (Retd) Ramesh Upadhyay and one Sudhakar Dange "inspected" the assembling of the bomb by the Muslim boys, Chaturvedi said during the test in Bangalore, probe officials told TOI on Wednesday. Purohit and Upadhyay are in ATS custody and Chaturvedi is likely to be in ATS custody by Thursday.

The Muslim boys took the bomb to Malegaon along with Ramji - an accused the ATS is yet to find - and planted it near the Simi office with Ramji's help, Chaturvedi is learnt to have said. Officials told TOI that he also said Ramji had brought the LML Freedom two-wheeler to Malegaon. The two-wheeler was owned by Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and led the ATS to the Sadhvi. The Sadhvi claimed in her affidavit before the Nashik court on Monday that she sold it in 2004 to a man named Sunil Joshi for Rs 24,000.

So, if the narco tests claims are to be believed, the ATS now has to establish the link between Joshi and Ramji. Purohit had also said in his narco test on November 12 that some Malegaon Muslims had prepared the bomb and that the RDX was sourced from some Kashmiri Muslims in Pune. {A claim which the ATS later withdrew, but no matter, please continue, TOI(let)}

The 37-year-old Chaturvedi was arrested by the Matunga police on November 4 on charges of carrying an illegal revolver and possessing a fake Deolali military cantonment identity card. {Half of UP/Bihar Politicians would be in jail for having illegal arms, if this is how we catch "terrorists"}

He was subjected to narco-analysis on Tuesday in Bangalore and, during the test, told forensic experts that he had arranged several meetings of Abhinav Bharat members at Indore, Panchmarhi and Jabalpur (Madhya Pradesh), Faridabad and other places in Haryana and Gujarat as well as Deolali. The ATS, probing the September 29 Malegaon blast, suspects that the blast conspiracy was hatched in these meetings.

Chaturvedi has also reportedly revealed that some businessmen in Maharashtra were funding Abhinav Bharat. "But they may not have known what the money was being spent for," Chaturvedi is learnt to have said.

Purohit, too, was on Wednesday subjected to brain-mapping and polygraph tests at the Kalina forensic laboratory. The ATS has so far arrested 10 persons, including Purohit, Major (Retd) Ramesh Upadhyay, Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and Mahant Dayanand Pandey, for their alleged role in the blast that killed six persons. The ATS has claimed that Purohit masterminded the Malegaon blast and procured RDX to assemble the bomb.

"Chaturvedi has admitted Purohit gave him the unlicensed revolver and also prepared a fake ID for his entry into the Deolali cantonment area. The ATS had given an application in the Kurla court, seeking Chaturvedi's custody," Matunga police station senior inspector Sunil Deshmukh said. Deshmukh said Chaturvedi used to work for Abhinav Bharat on a monthly salary of Rs 5,000.

"Chaturvedi's basic job was to arrange meetings and inform all the members about it. He also used to raise funds for the organisation," Deshmukh said.

Chaturvedi comes from Mirzapur in Uttar Pradesh. He migrated to Maharashtra 10 years ago and was staying in a rented room in a chawl at Deolali. Chaturvedi had also visited the Bhonsale Military School in Nashik to attend a personality development camp. That is when Purohit introduced him to Major Upadhay. The Matunga police may also book Purohit for possessing unlicensed firearms and providing Chaturvedi a fake military ID.

• Having an Illegal LPG Cylinder connection
  Eve-Teasing
  Involvement in Petrol or Kerosene Adulteration
  Cheating in Board Exams in Class X

Manu wrote:Bizzare...
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Malegaon blast: Another accused reveals Muslims assembled bomb
20 Nov 2008, 0243 hrs IST, Pranati Mehra and Mateen Hafeez, TNN
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Dead man’s tale holds key to Hindutva terror secrets

Praveen Swami

NEW DELHI: For the past fortnight, the Maharashtra Police have been poised on the edge of unravelling what could prove to be among the most significant counter-terrorism investigations since the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi.

Forensic evidence and leads from informants, investigators say, suggest that the Hindutva terrorist group Abhinav Bharat was responsible for a series of unsolved bombings so far blamed on Islamists: the February 2007, firebombing of the Samjhauta Express; the attack on the Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad that May; and the October 2007, attack on the shrine of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti in Ajmer.

But the investigation is now running into a brick wall: its principal suspect is dead. Dewas-based Hindutva activist Sunil Joshi, who police believe could have organised the 2007 bombings, was murdered just before New Year’s eve. Joshi’s supporters claim he was assassinated by the Students Islamic Movement of India; police suspect other Abhinav Bharat members killed their commander in a dispute over funds.

Maharashtra Police officials say the testimony of a witness — whose identity has been withheld for his protection —links Joshi to the Samjhauta Express attack.

According to the witness, Lieutenant-Colonel Prasad Shrikant Purohit — the Army officer held earlier this month for his role in training and directing the Malegaon bombers — claimed Abhinav Bharat was responsible for the Samjhauta Express bombing.

Lt. Col. Purohit, the witness claimed, made the claim after a December 29, 2007, phone call, when he was informed of Joshi’s death. “After the phone call,” a senior Maharashtra Police official told The Hindu, “our witness says Lieutenant-Colonel Purohit credited Joshi with having executed the Samjhauta Express attack, and hailed him as a martyr.”

Maharashtra Police sources said that, according to the witness, the call was made by Gujarat-based Hindu-nationalist leader Jatin Chatterjee. Mr. Chatterjee — widely known in southern Gujarat by his clerical alias, Swami Asimanand — runs the controversial Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, which operates a Hindu-proselytisation programme targeting adivasis in southern Gujarat.

Joshi’s connections to Abhinav Bharat are corroborated by separate findings. Gujarat-based Hindutva activist Pragnya Singh Thakur had first loaned her motorcycle, which was used in the Malegaon attack, to Joshi. After his death, the vehicle had been passed on to still-missing bombing suspect Ramnarayan Kalsangram, who is alleged to be hiding out with Hindutva supporters in Gujarat.
Little to go on

So far, the Maharashtra Police have been unable to secure the arrest of either Mr. Chatterjee or Kalsangram. Barring the sole witnesses’ testimony, therefore, investigators have little to go on.

Investigators also discounted media reports which suggested that “several Students Islamic Movement of India operatives were also held in Indore,” one official noted, “so what”?

As things stand, the available forensic evidence on the Samjhauta Express bombing does not bear out claims — first made and then withdrawn by Maharashtra special prosecutor Ajay Misar — that part of an RDX consignment allegedly sourced by Lt. Col. Purohit from Jammu and Kashmir was used in the bombing.

While a State government forensics facility in Haryana reported that it had found traces of RDX in the device used on the Samjhauta Express, that proposition was debunked on further testing. National Security Guard experts later determined that the incendiary device — essentially, a sophisticated Molotov cocktail — was made up of two-stroke engine oil, stored in one-litre plastic bottles, which was set off by a simple clock-timed bomb made with sulphur and potassium chlorate.

Forensic experts note, though, that there is one significant structural similarity between the Samjhauta Express bomb, and those used in the Mecca Masjid and Ajmer Sharif attacks: a length of grooved metal piping, of the kind used in tube-wells, as a case for the explosives.

Police have also known, for long, that the Mecca Masjid and Ajmer Sharif attacks were linked. The SIM cards of the mobile phones used to activate the bombs used in both attacks were among a set of seven purchased by the perpetrators from West Bengal and Jharkhand in April 2007. In both the Mecca Masjid and Ajmer terror strikes, the bomb-maker who fabricated the explosive devices had the phone’s speaker connected to a detonator.

Should investigators find the perpetrators of one attack, therefore, they more likely than note will be able to solve all three. So far, though, they have been unable to locate either the explosives or devices used in the attacks — or the actual perpetrators.

narayanan wrote:

Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was one of those who collected funds from the business houses.

There they go again! I am sure none of our worthies here have read the links I posted.

This is a Sabrang scam out-and-out. "Organized crime" all right - On the Congress side.

Perhaps lot of new forumites might have forgotten the Sabrang-FOIL episode.

by aga on Nov 20, 2008 10:06 AM
Terrorism is a sin in Hinduism, RSS/VHP who are doing national integration job to unite all Hindus-otherwise in minority everywhere if seen with diversity must be promoted and accepted as biggest NGO, all aids must be provided by Govt. to promote such national feelings through such agencies. But due to vote bank politics, few fanatics and leaders are maligning this pure organisation.

by anthrony golkunde on Nov 20, 2008 09:58 AM
Why? Why minority is punished? We have a clear agenda of `conversion’, `jihad’ and do all kind of terrorism & crime of conversion, when caught, we find some bajrangi, sevak, sadhvi for punishment, who do not have any agenda or literature for crime. We have done it successfully in godhra, kandhamal, Karnataka(no end) and when caught we have got lot of them as they are majority for punishment. Afterall we have such theology – for my crime, let some one is to be on the cross, no responsibility for us. Some one is there to take my crime After all we have unleashed another new way of killing the majority, i.e. punish them for our crime …Com-on… afterall thousands minority should be spared, but no majority should escape.. it is secularism..

by indiaNeal on Nov 20, 2008 09:57 AM

Congrats Cong

Congrats Sona for converting the most peaceful sect of world Hindus, into terrorists, who have never even attacked those who harrased it for centuries.

Congrats Sona for stretching the investingation into Malegaon case to take a political benefit by exposing it just few months before election so that your VOTE BANK gets more attracted towards you.

Congrats Sona for making the most peaceful people of world, Hindus, to pick up arms against its own brothers muslims for taking revenge of murdering crores of Hindus all around India.

Congrats Sona for creating a huge rift between Hindu and Muslim brethrens by not taking action against terrorists to appease muslims and by irritating Hindus on issue of terrorism to please the muslims and put them against Hindus.

Congrats Sona for keeping a country like India full of wealth and resources, hanging in developing country for decades by looting all its wealth and depositing into ur swiss bank account.

Congrats Sona for accumalating wealth in trillions of dollars by selling India at the hands of America.

Congrats Sona for making India bleed to take revenge from Indians for ur husband's death.

Congrats Sona for success of ur plan as we Indians are real stupid and you are a real patriout of Italy and is working here as Italian terminator for India.

Congrats for success of ur plan to destroy India.

NOW I AM SURE NO ONE CAN SAVE INDIA FROM UR CLUTCHES.

CONGRATS


by Harimau Iyer on Nov 20, 2008 07:42 AM Permalink | Hide replies

The only people who need to worry about.... are Muslims.

If they think they can throw bombs at the public, we have to show them we can do the same thing ten times over.

That would teach the Islamic thugs to stay quiet.

Nobody needs to do anything for the Muslims, or Christians or any other self-styled "disadvantaged" group. They need to go to schools, learn some useful stuff and go find a job.

Giving them Rs 250 crores a year for Hajj pilgrimage is the dumbest thing the government could have done. A few more professional colleges would have done the Muslims a lot more good than the Hajj pilgrimage.

If they don't believe it, we should prohibit the Koran from being printed and distributed in India.

Re: The only people who need to worry about
by JK on Nov 20, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
i would suggest to print and dritribute UNABRIGED version of QURAN to all INDIANS...that would show what sort of HATRED FILLED religion it is...
its just a religion of "just getting-cultured" desert tribes what "philosophy"(phew!!) is there in it?....why werent there any MAX MULLER for ARABIC....BCAS the WEST knows already what is there in it!..as its THEIRS..(abraham!)...

Re: The only people who need to worry about
by Krishna on Nov 20, 2008 10:10 AM Permalink
I've always advocated a ban on Islam. It is the root cause for muslim behaviour the world over.

by Sahil on Nov 20, 2008 07:37 AM Permalink | Hide replies

Is there any INDIAN still alive in INDIA ????

Re: Is there any INDIAN still alive in INDIA
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 20, 2008 08:19 AM Permalink

Good question. But what u expect whem PM himself says: Muslims first.

There was a time when great Muslim patriots, poets like Nazrul islam asked in his famous poem:

"Who asks whether you are a Hindu, or a Muslim?

We all are children of same Mother."

SOCIAL TENSION, IDENTITY POLITICS IS RISING, AND SOONER OR LATE IT WILL ENGULF WHOLE OF INDIA.

narayanan wrote:

Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was one of those who collected funds from the business houses.

There they go again! I am sure none of our worthies here have read the links I posted.

This is a Sabrang scam out-and-out. "Organized crime" all right - On the Congress side.

fanne wrote:They are gunning for (picked from offstumped and edited by me) - Gujarat-based Hindu-nationalist leader Jatin Chatterjee. Mr. Chatterjee — widely known in southern Gujarat by his clerical alias, Swami Asimanand — runs the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram, which operates a Hindu-proselytisation programme targeting adivasis in southern Gujarat.
They have now linked Malegaon attack to many Gujarati busineesman who give donation. They also donate to the swamiji and ergo you have a new matermind.

This is no muslim appeasement, this is EJ job being done by Italian mafia. The muslim appeasement is just the side show to distract and what not.

Business houses funded terror group, says ATS
Press Trust of India Posted: Nov 19, 2008 at 1749 hrs

Mumbai, November 19: The probe into how Hindu outfits accused of terrorism had links with some Army men brought a few business houses under the scanner of Maharashtra's ATS and Central Security agencies investigating the finances of the group allegedly responsible for Malegaon blast.

Sources attached with the probe said that a religious leader from Southern Gujarat was one of those who collected funds from the business houses.

Working on the chain of events about finances of the Abhinav Bharat, a little know saffron outfit allegedly involved in the September 29 Malegaon blast that left six people dead, sources said names of some of the business houses in Maharashtra as well as Gujarat cropped up.

A check was being done whether the business houses were aware about the end use of funds. "We have questioned some of them and we are working to ascertain as to how much of money had been handed over to the saffron outfit," a senior probe official said on the condition of anonymity.

The names of the business houses were not divulged for security reasons.

The money was generally collected by a self-styled religious leader hailing from Gujarat and efforts to seek his custody had not fructified so far, they said.

Manu wrote:Fanne/N^3, this now makes sense.

I just visited their website. It's pretty obvious what their "agenda" is.

However, what is not known (to me), is did they actively influence This Report?

If so, it must be said that America is becoming the Saudi Arabia for EJs. Sanjay Chowdhry said this a month ago. Even before the Malegaon Drama began.

And that the Sabrangi crowd has so deeply penetrated our Union Govt. is a matter of Alarm. Now, the Sonal Shah thing also makes sense. The "about us" and "our team" pages go nowhere on their website. Who are these people? What is their agenda? Source of Funding? How can the fight be taken to them? Is Teesta Setalvad (2007 Padmashree Awardee) just a front for some sinister org. or is this just an FHL show?

Is this outside the purview of BR? I obviously don't want us to concoct conspiracy theories, but perhaps, open source discussion may be allowed.

Added Later: Do they exercise control over The National Commission for Minorities (NCM) and the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) as well?

Because it is known already that Teesta and husband Javed's publication, Communalism Combat, requested and received funds from the Congress Party, the Communist Party of India (Marxist) and the Communist Party of India and ten individuals to run advertisements in national dailies attacking the Sangh Parivar, including the Bharatiya Janata Party.

How deep are the roots of all this?

What puzzles me is how a phenomenon that could be extinguished by an electoral defeat should have assumed such proportions that someone as supposedly knowledgeable as President Clinton’s national security adviser, Sandy Berger, could liken it to Islamic terrorism? Strobe Talbott in his new book, Engaging India, describes a lunch with Jaswant Singh at which he points out to Berger the rumblings of radical Islam and how important India’s role could be in helping the West fight it and Berger replies that he is as worried about Hindu fundamentalism in India.

Manu wrote:Fanne/N^3, this now makes sense.

I just visited their website. It's pretty obvious what their "agenda" is.

However, what is not known (to me), is did they actively influence This Report?

If so, it must be said that America is becoming the Saudi Arabia for EJs. Sanjay Chowdhry said this a month ago. Even before the Malegaon Drama began.

The Shiv Sena has taken the Anti-Terror Squad to court on Thursday by challenging its investigations into the Malegaon blast probe.

The Sena has petitioned the Bombay High Court that the Malegaon blast case be handed over to the State CID.

They have demanded a judicial enquiry into sadhvi's allegations of torture and have asked the court to prevent the ATS from speaking to the media.

Under MCOCA, the ATS will get six months to file a chargesheet against the accused, as compared to 90 days under other laws.

Home Ministry fails to restrain ATS on Malegaon

Mihir Srivastava
New Delhi, November 20, 2008

The Union Government cannot hide its embarrassment on the ATS' initial report that the special public prosecutor, Ajay Misar, told the chief judicial magistrate's court in Nasik that Lt. Colonel Prasad Purohit was in-charge of 60 kg RDX in the Deolali army camp near Nashik in 2006 and that some of the explosive material from was supplied to Bhagwan Das, an absconding accused in the Samjhauta Express blast. Later, ATS refute from this report saying that no RDX was used in the Samjhauta Express Blast.

Some in the home ministry feel that this contradicting information leaking from ATS does give an impression that the investigating agency is on overdrive to expose Purohit's link with other terror attacks where Muslims got killed without doing their homework.

Union Home Secretary Madhukar Gupta {This is the same Gentleman, who opined after the Delhi Blasts, that "With Each Blast, we get more experience"} is not happy about the tendency of the investigating agencies to share half baked, premature and often contradictory information with the media.

In a hard worded letter to the Maharashtra police chief, Gupta wrote, "It is needless to say that these premature disclosures can compromise with the investigation and subsequent prosecution of the cases," and added, "I need hardly to emphasise the inappropriateness of this in the wider social context, except to say that even the court of the higher judiciary have made serious and critical observation in this regard."

Despite this, ATS is exercising no restraint; unsubstantiated leaks are happening on the daily basis. "Sources in ATS are leaking details about the narco tests," says a senior functionary in the Union Home Ministry, "we do not understand why they are not exercising restraint despite the issue has taken such an ugly political colour."

The last of these series of leaks being the details of the narco analysis conducted on Sudhakar Chaturvedi on November 17 in Bangalore Forensic Sciences Laboratory. He was held on November 4. Chaturvedi had also undergone polygraph and brain fingerprinting on Wednesday in Mumbai.

Deshmukh dismisses Advani's allegations

Maharashtra Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh reacting to Advani's 'no faith on Maharastra ATS investigation', said that there was question of changing ATS team conducting the inquiry and conducting a judicial enquiry.

Refuting the charges that the investigations are politically motivated, Deshmukh talking to media persons in Maharashtra Sadan in New Delhi said: Advani consistently demanded POTA and now "why is he perturbed when ATS is carrying out investigation without using these stringent anti-terror laws."

Acharya wrote:I have been saying this for the last few years in BR. THis entire thing has been on the plan for atleast 10 years or so. The media is leading the Indian masses straight into this trap.