Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

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Brad Goodman wrote:Compassion for Pakistan
Looks like the Western media and its spinmasters are taking the manufactured Malala episode to its logical end --- a demand for "more aid for Pakistan"

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The Average Joe as expected will get suckered into this "Taleban against Prave Bakistani Little girl - so Bakistan has to be helped" narrative and will let the impending GOTUS aid package to Pakis (who are actively assisting the Taleban in the slaughter of his fellow americans (>2000 killed) in afghanistan) pass without a murmur.
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Anujan wrote:Pakistan was a secular progressive and tolerant society in the 70s. Nobody could have seen this photo (shot in the 70s) and imagined that 40 years later Pakistanis will become fundamentalist and shoot girls for studying!!

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Obviously, since that picture depicts enlightened and scientific Pakistani measurement of width of SUPARCO volunteer's bum using foot rule, onlee.
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Top Islamic leader in Pakistan, Maulana Tahir Ashrafi who campaigns for banning booze, is caught drunk

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - The incident took place, when the Molana went unconscious after having a huge drinking. He was lying in his car at the GT Road, when his car was stopped by the Law enforcement agencies. The Molana was not in a conscious state. They made a mobile footage or video of the politician Tahir Asharfi, which can also be disclosed by the media.

He was coming from a party, which was organized by the Foreign Embassy, where he had a lot of drink.The party was held in Islamabad, and Maolana was on its way from Islamabad to Lahore, when he caught drunk. He is a Chairman of Ulema and Mashaikh Council Pakistan, which is a religious organization. Wine and Alcohol is illicit in Islam, so what the unfortunate incident is this that a Chairman of religiousorganization is caught drunk. The police told that when he caught he was much drunk and lying on the back seat of the car. He was also vomiting that his cloths are full of the expulsion coming out from his mouth.

The news of Tahir Ashrafi’s drinking and passing out at German Embassy Islamabad and his subsequent ordeal has been effectively wiped out from Pakistani media. The episode is also an example of how history is distorted by courtier mullahs and historians.

After the media reports initially reported that the Chairman Ulema and Mashaikh Council Pakistan Maulana Tahir Mahmood Ashrafi was abducted on 5-6 October and recovered within five hours of abduction in Islamabad, a media channel (Waqt TV) very briefly reported that Ashrafi was not been kidnapped but he was found in unconscious state after he excessively drank at an event held at a Western Embassy in Islamabad.

According to Waqt News, Molana Hafiz Muhammad Tahir Ashrafi was caught drunk in his car on GT Road near Jehlum. He was found drunk on a police check post, he was not in his senses on the back seat of his car, police checked him and found that he was drunk and had been vomiting on his clothes and car seat. He was going to Lahore after night out in German Embassy in Islamabad where he got drunk. He lied to media by telling them that he had been kidnapped. :((

According to Waqt News, agencies also made a mobile footage or video of Asharfi in drunk state, which has been kept in ISI’s folder. :mrgreen:

After regaining his consciousness, the Maolana made a cover up story that he was kidnapped by unknown person and that the kidnappers injected him with intoxicating medicine. The media has reported that the law enforcement agencies have submitted their report, in which they have stated that the Tahir Ashrafi was not kidnapped, it was just a cover up concocted by Ashrafi and his sponsors (ISI). According to another report when he caught drunk he couldn’t reply to any of the questions asked by the police, but after getting conscious he personally called them back and told them that he was kidnapped. The story of his kidnapping was fully corroborated by his friends in Sipah-e-Sahaba, ISI and certain dubious journalists – both in right and pseudo-liberal elites. :rotfl:

Tahir Ahrafi is the president of Pakistan Ulma Council, a one-man show Deobandi party with links with Taliban, Sipah-e-Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. He was a loyal servant of General Pervez Musharraf and very close to CM Parvez Ilahi. Currently he is a loyal servant of General Kayani and Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif. He is, as before, available for service to the highest bidder which is currently ISI, PML-N and some Western embassies. He is a bigot Deobandi who often takes stance against Sunni Barelvis and Shias. He was found spreading misleading stuff on Eid moon sighting issue and maligning Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman. His opposition to Mumtaz Qadri (Taseer’s murderer) and Molvi Khalid Jadoon (of Rimsha Masih’s case) was also motivated by the fact that both Qadri maloon and Jadoon maloon are Sunni Barelvis.

Ashrafi is an open supporter of Taliban and Al Qaida in Pakistan, treats Mullah Omar maloon as his Ameer al Momineen, and is known to have close ties with banned terrorist outfits ie Sipah e Sahaba Pakistan and Lahkkar e Jhangvi.

Since he used to be Maulana Samiul Haq’s student and information secretary (JUI-S), it is likely that he got influenced by Maulana Sami-ul-Haq’s night-life (remember Madam Tahir and Sami the Sandwich?) and deemed it fit to follow the traditions of his Deobandi teacher and leader.

The accusation of his participation in the night life is not new. Watch Aik Din Geo Kay Saath in which Soahial Waraich questions Ashrafi about his participation in night life and also his links with ISI. He also confesses that he played a key role as mediator between Sipah-e-Sahaba/LeJ and attackers on GHQ. In the following clip, he admits at 4:18 that he got several LeJ-SSP terrorists released from Afghanistan and USA jail in Cuba. :((


http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&Id=356465
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Brad Goodman wrote:something is seriously wrong with Nitish. Why are bihari CM visiting paki land? Laloo when he was CM and now this guy

Nitish to lead Bihar delegation to Pakistan in Nov
Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar will head a high-level delegation of ministers and officials to Pakistan next month to tell the "turnaround" story of the state there.

The delegation will be on a week-long visit to the neighbouring country from November 9-16 at the invitation of some provincial Chief Ministers there, officials in CM's office told PTI today.

He is scheduled to visit Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad and will return by road through the Wagah border, they said.
He probably thinks he is courting the Muslim vote. Indian politicians across the spectrum have promoted the idea that Indian Muslim==Pakistan.
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Nitish is a good man. One of the few honest politicians in India. I think he might be just going as part of a delegation for chai biskoot sessions.
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correction joshi ji. He was a nice man. Past few months his statement against modi & BJP point towards a pro kangreess tilt. This is way more than chai biskoot
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Pakistan = Islam according to ch****a Indian politicians.
Remember Mulayam Singh asking Indian govt to give 200 crores to pakistan.
Visiting Pakistan = increase in secular credentials = more muslim votes.

Thats why he is doing that.
He now has a `good` wala certificate though.
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Djinnah was a good man too
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The people campaigning for aid for Pakistan: do they know what imran said? He refused to condemn the shooting and asked why so much outrage for a girl when so many are killed by drones.
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Pratyush wrote:Pachauri, needs to focus on providing clean electricity to the millions of Indians who have no electricity and toilets to the millions of Indians who have no toilets.

We will become a superpower when people like him focus on solving India's problems rather then focus on TSP's problems, in the hope of gaining approval from the westerners.
We should indeed start a movement for more toilets in India asking Pachauri and Jairam Ramesh to join in. Once they have joined in we should start demanding that all waters of the Indus be diverted to India for the purpose. So many millions of Indians cannot enjoy the basic facility of a toilet and a newspaper, and all because our water is being allowed to leave Indian territory and enter Pakistan!

Every Indian politician in favor of toilets instead of temples need to also support diversion of Indus waters to India!
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Indians have had severe toilet shortage since the partition.
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Paki Muslim == Indian Hindu :::: WKK (they are like us onlee)
Paki Muslim == Indian Muslims :::: Indian Politician (vote for him)
Indian Muslim >> Indian Hindu. :::: MMS (peacenik chanikian)

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Indian Muslim == Paki Muslim :::: Yindutvavadi (ban him, he is propagating genocide)
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Mahendra wrote:Djinnah was a good man too
Thank god for Djinnah. He was instrumental in doing Hindus a huge favor by demanding and getting a separate nation where all the yahoos now practice their wayward ways with no restriction. Otherwise Hindus would have been a minority in their own land by now.
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ramana wrote:Also a Caliph needs some marks or 'chinn' to be identified as such.

Among them:
- Sword of Muhammad. Right now in Topkapi muesum
Why, the city of Kandahar safe-keeps the cloak of Prophet Muhammad. It was the wearing of this cloak that gave legitimacy to Mullah Omar in 1996. It is still there awaiting the next Caliph.
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^
So all that India needs to do is launch a secret operation to move that cloak from Kandahar to Islamabad and Pakistan will take its purest form?! :)
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What is wrong in protecting Islam against infidels n the nation set up for Islam?
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Anujan wrote:Pakistan was a secular progressive and tolerant society in the 70s. Nobody could have seen this photo (shot in the 70s) and imagined that 40 years later Pakistanis will become fundamentalist and shoot girls for studying!!

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It is easy for anyone to get hit. It requires bravery and great piety to hit someone. I admire the armed forces and police of the Islamic republic of Pakistan for the manner in which they uphold Islamic laws.
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Anujan wrote:Indians have had severe toilet shortage since the partition.
I propose the starting of a new thread where every act of Indian aid to Pakistan is posted along with facts, figures and photos of Indians who need that aid. If I can pull myself out of that OIT thread I might do that. India aid to shitistan is getting irritating.

Something on the lines of "Indian Aid to Pakistan and Indians who deserve that aid"
Every act of Indian charity to Shitland needs to be cross posted in that thread along with the Indian idiot who is giving the aid and others can pitch in with suitable Indian candidates who could do with such aid.
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Shiv saar, great idea.
I was thinking of starting another thread - I want to call it the WUQ Files - Wajib-ul-qatl files. This idea came to me while listening to one of the best qawwalis in Hindi films - na to kaarwan ki talash hai The lyrics are written by late Sahir Ludhianvi. The lyrics are replete with enough that will put any current mullah into a rageboy mode. A few days ago you had posted a photo of paki wimmen leading in front of paki mard momeens. Also Kiyani - a clean-shaven Muslim (how is that possible?). I want to put the photo of Kiyani against the rageboy and let people decide who is more Muslim? Doesn't any mullah have the right (Allah-given) to call for the qatl of Kiyani for his munafiq ways? We need a collection of such material that assists the real sons of Islam as they take on the munafiq pakis and other pretenders just as they are taking on the Shia and the Ahmadi and so on.
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descendents of tughlak seem to be alive and flourishing. :-?


Malala Yousufzai to be given Pak's highest civilian bravery award
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Abhijit wrote:Shiv saar, great idea.
I was thinking of starting another thread - I want to call it the WUQ Files - Wajib-ul-qatl files. This idea came to me while listening to one of the best qawwalis in Hindi films - na to kaarwan ki talash hai The lyrics are written by late Sahir Ludhianvi. The lyrics are replete with enough that will put any current mullah into a rageboy mode. A few days ago you had posted a photo of paki wimmen leading in front of paki mard momeens. Also Kiyani - a clean-shaven Muslim (how is that possible?). I want to put the photo of Kiyani against the rageboy and let people decide who is more Muslim? Doesn't any mullah have the right (Allah-given) to call for the qatl of Kiyani for his munafiq ways? We need a collection of such material that assists the real sons of Islam as they take on the munafiq pakis and other pretenders just as they are taking on the Shia and the Ahmadi and so on.
The Benis thread in its original form was supposed to do what you suggested. Misphortunately it became an alternate Paki humor thread.
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Boy, are TSP RAPE milking Malala with impunity. Suddenly this vile filthy Jihadi b!tch, Lodhi, who has never had the basic human decency like all other TSP RAPEs to condemn the slaughter of Indians by their pigLeTs, and in fact sponsored them and cheered them on, and mocked India's evidence are suddenly anti-Jihadi.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... hed-moment

And why are the TSP RAPE so profusely anti-Jihadi all of a sudden? You guessed it, the gory act was by the "bad Taliban"

Gunned down by the Pakistani Taliban for championing girls’ right to education, Malala has become a national icon for her bravery and determination to stand up for her beliefs and defy the environment of fear and intimidation that militants contrive and thrive on.
These pukes are beneath contempt.
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shiv wrote: It is easy for anyone to get hit. It requires bravery and great piety to hit someone. I admire the armed forces and police of the Islamic republic of Pakistan for the manner in which they uphold Islamic laws.
Shivmullah, your kindness and generosity towards our neighbours makes you generous in your praise...Pakistan is just taking baby steps towards the final goal of every pious Islamic state - the sort of Wahabi Utopian paradise that Saudi Barbaria, its second paymaster and ideological mentor is..they don't yet cut off arms of thiefs or stone adulterers. Moreover, the policeman was wearing western uniform which in of itself is blasphemy.

One can only pray to almighty Allah that Pakistan progresses further in the road to pure theology, ably assisted by the Talibans.
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CRamS wrote:These pukes are beneath contempt.
The whole article is as if it was dictated by the TSPA. Praise for TSPA's clever strategy and bravery is there in every sentence..even MKB will have to take his caps off and offer a laal-salaam.

But she got one thing right..something I posted earlier too..
As time passes on from the Malala incident, public opinion could shift again, (in favor of the pure, as it should be in any pure state set up in the name of the purest and most peaceful religion) as it often has in the past after a terrorist attack. The window of public consent for any action will then begin to close.
Pakistan army patrol was ambushed by the TTP in a daring cross-border raid. 18 servicemen were killed and mercilessly beheaded (was that the sequence? :lol: )– a gory (why gory? After all, this is how criminals are publicly punished in Saudi Barbaria, the ideological mentor of Wahabric animals) video of this was then widely distributed (as they could not invite public to attend the ceremony as they do in Barbaria...as it also shows the bunnies are embracing technology, so you should not worry about sending your sons to madrasas run by bunnie mullas)
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CRamS wrote:And why are the TSP RAPE so profusely anti-Jihadi all of a sudden? You guessed it, the gory act was by the "bad Taliban"
There are reports of 'widespread' condemnation of the Taliban, 'bad' Taliban that is. The TV anchors and the newspaper columnists (at least in the English language media) seem to be angered and aroused. School children have said that they were all Malalas now.

My submission is that this anger and revulsion are well orchestrated by the Establishment. The situation is very similar to 2009 when Mullah 'FM Radio' Fazlullah and his 'bad' Taliban overran Swat and were about to march towards Islamabad. The 'bad' Taliban were not satisfied with the release from jail of the TNSM Chief and the father-in-law of Mullah FM Radio. They were not satisfied with the adoption of Shariah rules in the judiciary in Swat. They were not satisfied with the de-facto transfer of governance to them. Then again, there was flogging of a little girl which led to the National Assembly finally authorizing the army action in Swat. The PA earlier refused to act unless the authorization came from the NA, not merely from the President or the Defence Ministry. Remember that Swat is a 'settled area', is not part of FATA. Compare that with the butchering and massacre that has been going on in Balochistan with impunity since the 1970s, more so in the last decade.

Why is the Establishment orchestrating the Malala incident ? There could be two reasons. One is that the PA wants to be seen as in the vanguard of anti-terror operations. That would help an image makeover. The other could be that the PA wants to be in a position to exert their complete influence on the Quetta & Haqqani shuras as the Afghan situation slowly rises to a denouement. The influence of the 'bad' Taliban over these shuras, OTOH, could rob it of unfettered influence over Mullah Omar and the Haqqanis. The 'bad' Taliban, who are as much a part of AQAM as the 'good' Taliban, know that the way to establishing the fourth Caliphate is through Islamabad and its nuclear arsenal. They want to keep the PA leadership under pressure, secure in their thought that a large number of the PA foot-soldiers are sympathetic to their cause and could be expected to show their true green colour when time comes. They need to keep attacking the PA to gain respectability among the foot-soldier section of the PA and keep their interests alive. The tussle then is between the PA and the 'bad' Taliban to gain an upper hand over the rival.

The widespread condemnation that Pakistan claims does not include parties like Jamaat-e-Islami or Jamaat-Ulema-e-Islami (either factions). The Diffa Pakistan Council calls it an American conspiracy to pressurize PA into action in North Waziristan. Even jihadi Imran Khan has said why should there be such a furore over one girl when many civilians have died in drone attacks, echoing closely DPC's view. Neither the apex berelvi organization Ahl-e-Sunnat-wal-Jamaat has said a word. Without support from these influential organizations for Malala, I doubt how widespread this could be.
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Anujan wrote:Indians have had severe toilet shortage since the partition.
Yes becoz Pakistan was taken away from India. What to do onlee....
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India-Pakistan business schools to commence joint executive management programme
The Indian School of Business (ISB) and Institute of Business Administration (IBA), Karachi announced the commencement of their first joint executive education programme in Pakistan on Tuesday. The programme titled 'leadership skills for top management' is currently underway in Karachi. This initiative is an outcome of the MoU signed between ISB and IBA, Karachi on April 13, 2012, aimed at bringing world-class executive education programmes to Pakistan.
The ToI headline is outrageously inaccurate. It should have simply read, 'India to train Pakistan's top management in leadership skills'. Somehow, when it comes to Pakistan, we want to equate the husk and the grain.
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Raja Bose wrote:
Anujan wrote:Indians have had severe toilet shortage since the partition.
Yes becoz Pakistan was taken away from India. What to do onlee....
Ode To Pakistan
Forever Loo Loo
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Pak announces $1 million bounty for Taliban leader
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak-a ... 121016.htm
Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik [ Images ] has announced a one million dollar bounty on Mullah Fazlullah, the leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban who is behind the attack on teenage rights activist Malala Yousufzai.This conspiracy assassination plan was made across the border in Afghanistan. Of course, (by) Mullah Fazlullah, who had fled when we took action in Malakand Swat," Malik told CNN in an interview."At that point of time, we did not exactly know what their objective was and what kind of action they were going to take. Of course, one guy we have identified and few of his associates have been arrested," he said, adding that the financer of one of the terrorists has been detained.Malik announced one million dollar as bounty for the leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. The top Pakistani official also asserted that Islamabad [ Images ] was taking strong action against extremists."Let me assure that the military leadership and of course the civil leadership will take action at an appropriate time. But at the same time, the action based on intelligence is continuing. But I can tell you that the people of Pakistan do not want Taliban [ Images ]. They do not want extremism," Malik said."Pakistan is fighting a war, a war which was imposed on Pakistan," he said
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The UPA Government says its hands are tied are has no choice but to raise prices for the Aam Aadmi, but they want to provide the "RIGHT PRICE" to TSP. the export of POL, Electricity, allowing Pakis FDI, allowing more channels for the import of drugs from Pakistan in name of Cement and commodities in India is nothing but a traitorous action.

Pakistan willing to buy petro products from India
If right prices are given, we have no problems in importing." He said, Pakistan could import petroleum fuels from India both via pipelines and sea routes.
"A team from HPCL [ Get Quote ] (Hindustan Petroleum Corp Ltd) will come to Pakistan very soon to discuss prices," Hussain told reporters on the sidelines of the Petrotech 2012 conference.
Though diesel imports are permitted from 2009, Indian oil [ Get Quote ] companies have found it difficult to match the price Pakistan gets from its West Asian trading partners, mainly Kuwait.
Why are we teven tryin here.
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Jhujar wrote:Pak announces $1 million bounty for Taliban leader
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak-a ... 121016.htm
Pakistan's Interior Minister Rehman Malik [ Images ] has announced a one million dollar bounty on Mullah Fazlullah, the leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban who is behind the attack on teenage rights activist Malala Yousufzai.This conspiracy assassination plan was made across the border in Afghanistan. Of course, (by) Mullah Fazlullah, who had fled when we took action in Malakand Swat," Malik told CNN in an interview."At that point of time, we did not exactly know what their objective was and what kind of action they were going to take. Of course, one guy we have identified and few of his associates have been arrested," he said, adding that the financer of one of the terrorists has been detained.Malik announced one million dollar as bounty for the leader of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. The top Pakistani official also asserted that Islamabad [ Images ] was taking strong action against extremists."Let me assure that the military leadership and of course the civil leadership will take action at an appropriate time. But at the same time, the action based on intelligence is continuing. But I can tell you that the people of Pakistan do not want Taliban [ Images ]. They do not want extremism," Malik said."Pakistan is fighting a war, a war which was imposed on Pakistan," he said

:rotfl: They will find some bakra, blame him and shoot him. Problem solved.
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CRamS wrote:Boy, are TSP RAPE milking Malala with impunity.
...
These pukes are beneath contempt.
Well of course they are.

Connect the dots, as always. A nice clear trail stands out from Salala to Malala.

1) Salala... USAF halaals TSPigs by the dozen when they try to provide covering fire for advancing Taliban. This comes on top of a long list of H&D jhaapads beginning with Raymond Davis, going on to Abbotabad and Admiral Mullen, and finally to the "last straw" of Salala.

2) Kiyani tries to brazen it out and closes off road access for NATO supply convoys to Afghanistan. US responds by cutting off funding here and there.

3) In the mutual b@lls-squeezing battle, TSP begins to lose badly. They ask Tarrel-than-Mountain for a bailout, but Beijing tells them to get lost. Pretty soon they are out of funds. They start to produce alleged "tactical" nuclear warheads at a frenetic pace, and plant all kinds of alarmist propaganda in the US media about their rapidly increasing nuclear arsenal. US does not blink. TSP says, ok, maybe we'll restore access for NATO if you give us an "unconditional apology". US does not blink. TSP says, ok, maybe just a conditional apology but give us 100x the earlier price per truck. US does not blink. TSP sends Zardari to a global conference on Afghanistan. Obama does not even look at him.

4) Finally, TSPA agrees to restore access for NATO convoys to Afg. No apology, nothing (though the TSP media keeps making tall claims about how an apology from John Kerry or Hillary Clinton is just around the corner.) The question is: why? What deal was cut?

5) So here's the speculation.

TSP was told by Washington: clearly we don't need you to do the needful in Afghanistan. We will happily spend the few extra bucks required for logistics, pump up Karzai's armed forces without any acknowledgment of your Paki concerns, look the other way when Karzai cuts defense pacts with New Delhi, and basically marginalize Slumbad 400% in the international post-withdrawal political process for Kabul. TSP was also told: the ONLY hope you have to get back into our good books, following this tantrum, is to mount an all-out military operation against the Haqqanis and Gul Bahadur in North Waziristan.

TSPA assessed the situation, looked again at their empty coffers, and realized that none of the 3.5 friends was on the way with bags of money to bail them out. (India, meanwhile, was trying to take advantage of this situation by bringing bags of money to bail TSP out... but MMS' allegedly chanakyan moves are not the central issue here.)

Finally, TSPA realized that they had only two choices... take the American deal, fold with no apology and no price hike for NATO convoys, AND ultimately undertake a military operation against the N.Waz Talibs. OR, let India bail them out (while cultivating a large aman-ki-asha constituency within their borders.) Clearly, nothing was worse from TSPA's point of view, than letting India bail them out. So they took the American deal.

6) And the American deal is what's playing out now.
STEP I: Hillary Clinton "waives" the terrorism-rider for the annual $2Billion aid package to Slumbad. This is done before any action by TSPA, as a gesture of "good faith" and face-saving.

STEP II: TSPA/ISI has Malala Yousufzai shot. The orders come directly from Kiyani's desk. Malala is then taken into the hands of TSPA medical facilities, and made into a comatose media puppet for the "rehabilitation" of Pakistan in the international community's eyes. Western media, prompted by the US State Dept, begins plugging the story of how "the shooting of an innocent schoolgirl has now, finally, really, truly, woken up the enlightened moderate Mawslums of Pakistan to the fact that Taliban is their real enemy."

Bullet-ridden Malala also serves as a plausible causus belli for popular consumption. TSPA can claim that the shooting has "opened their eyes to the true nature of the Taliban", and use this to justify launching a military op in N.Waz, which might otherwise have earned them condemnation for fighting America's war.

STEP III: TSPA either makes good on the last part of the deal... mounting a full scale assault against N.Waz Taliban... or does something tactically brilliant to try to get out of it after already having reaped the benefits from Hillary Clinton and the US media. Either way the outcome should be fun to watch. Bring the nihari-flavoured popcorn.
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Shiv: sent you email btw.
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Today we are all malala. Less than 10% of Pakistanis shoot, behead, rape or throw acid on women. Pakistan is a largely secular and progressive society.
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Why EU? Why not Malala for Nobel Peace?
She was shot before the announcement of the prize. But even before that she wasn’t unknown in the world. Desmond Tutu had nominated her as one of the candidates for the International Children’s Peace Prize in October 2011. BBC has been carrying her blog for the last three years. Her fight against violence of Taliban and in favour of girls’ right to education has required considerable maturity, guts and determination.

Had she been conferred the Nobel Peace Prize, it would have sent a strong signal of encouragement to countless youth across the world. It would have also signified a dare from the world to the Taliban, who the world is already ranged against in a bloody combat.
And the 100 m euro should have been transferred to the local mullah's account (10% to el presidente) for instilling secular values to Malala.
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UK Bakis up to no good??
From Time:
http://world.time.com/2012/10/16/u-k-ho ... /?lid=edit
(LONDON) — Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot, raising fears about the girl’s security amid pledges by the Taliban to finish the job.

Fourteen-year-old Malala Yousufzai was shot in the head by the Taliban last week as she was returning home from school. She was airlifted to Britain on Monday to receive specialized medical care and protection from follow-up attacks threatened by the militants.

Medical Director Dave Rosser of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham stressed Tuesday that security was “under control.” He said several individuals had turned up at the hospital claiming to be the girl’s relatives — but didn’t get very far. While he said the people were arrested, police said they had merely been questioned.
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UK paquis have been harrassing wounded british soldiers recovering in this hospital in the past, to yeh malala laundi kaun si cheez hai?
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Malala probably got herself shot on purpose to get British Visa. She is defaming Pakistan.
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so obviously getting gang raped is a kanadian vija and getting shot in the head is a uk vija
i wonder what a paqui has to do to get an US vija? be an ex-ambassador?
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Simple. Write a memo defaming Pakistan and get himself sued in the supreme court.
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