SSridhar wrote:ekalavya, we have been following here the unwise behaviour of our Prime Minister in these matters. I want to give the benefit of doubt to Pujya PMji this time. I am not so sure if Miandad's case would have gone all the way up to the PM for clearance. The MEA & MHA have clear procedures on issuance of visas, especially for Pakistanis. Someone in MHA forgot to add Miandad to the 'Denied Parties List' when he became the samdhi of Dawood Ibrahim. Leave that aside. If anybody would have escalated the matter right upto the PM, I can only visualize two scenarios.
One, it was Shinde himself after a junior level officer sought his opinion upon a request from the Indian embassy routed through our MEA. In that case, Shinde should have decided not to issue a visa to him. Why should he refer the matter to the PM ? He has enough powers to decide these issues. Unless, of course, Shinde wanted to play it safe since he himself wanted to grant visa to Miandad but thought it prudent to get the nod from the PM whom he knew would simply not say 'no' forcefully to anything as we saw in A. Raja's 2G issue. The question then would be why was Shinde keen on issuing a visa to a person closely linked to Dawood Ibrahim ?
Or, Miandad was denied a visa and GoP escalated the matter through Rental Raja to our PM who then instructed Shinde to grant him the visa.
Somehow, I believe that the request went through usual channels and got approved. This is as much a hunch as that Daily Mail report that the order came from PMO's office. None of us has any proof.
There is another possibility. HM referred to his boss knowing that his boss wanted him to refer such cases to him. Or HM knew that his boss was keen on placating pakis at all costs and so, he thought it prudent to refer this case instead of taking an action by himself.
Or he knew the policy of his party and acted on that policy.
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I think Miandad cancelling his trip again is to save the face of this regime. This regime may have pleaded with Miandad not to visit right now.
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CRamS wrote:What I find interesting though is that TSP is now saying lets forget the past, trade, make love yada yada. Recall, in yester year, when India said the same thing, its "core issue" or nothing. Even when VjapyaeeJi and Jassu Bhai shamelessly invited MushRat to Agra despite Kargil, he came to India as a "conqueror", and said core issue or nothing.
So its amusing to see TSP lecturing India on moving forward. I guess its now convenient for them to take this stance, because then they are not accountable for their brazen act of war on 26/11 for which they got caught red handed, and hence can't say "freedom fighters", and so instead "bunch of people" or "non state actors". I also see TSP slimily rubbing it in with this "bunch of people" angle. Basically telling India, see, 10 of our boys humiliated you, is it not better to make piss with us than suffer more of this? You tell them, no, it was not by a "bunch of people" but state sponsored, then of course we are back in familiar territory, where is the proof? Both ISI and RAW did this or that.
Guys, just a piskological experiment. Just put yourself in the shoes of the ISI and TSPA etc in their war room (and of course include the RAPE who are in synch, i.e. the Lodhis, the Sethis, the Hiaders and all the pukes we see on TV). They know exactly what they have done, they know their intentions, their game plan. They know that their 26/11 strategy succeeded but for the embarrassement. They know, they have knocked India out of Afghanistan in the end game. And now they are watching Aman Ki Tamasha in action. They are seeing Indian WKKs falling over to make piss, and Bollywood perverts selling their soul. They see all kinds of bogus arguments put on the Indian side for making piss. And above all, they see the ultimate self loathing, self flagellating spectacle of Indians bringing in "Hindu terror", Samjotha as the equivalent of 26/11. And to top it all, they see their kirket boys pummel India right in front of 50K+ eunuchs who have forgotten all of TSP's perfidy, only to go home with sullen faces. I mean the war room must be filed with profuse laughter & champagne.
Given that TSP's sole existence of 60+ years is to undo India, but even though that has not been achieved yet, seeing India subjugated in this manner is quite a bit of potion that gives them confidence that they can overcome their real travails and ultimately prevail over India one day. What do you guys think? Am I reading TSP RAPE piskology correctly?
If I put myself in a paki rape shoes: I know that Indian elite are in our favor. I know that present regime is in our favor. I know that western elite are in our favor. I know that kirket is fixed by D-gang and I know that bollywood is, for all purposes and intents, run by D-gang. I believe that I am a successor of the Mughals and have the right to live like a Mughal which involves ruling on kafirs and non-kafirs.
So, I am amused and have contempt for the Hindus when I see aman ka tamasha and 'hindu terror'. To me, it is a proof that the prey itself wants to be eaten by the hunter. I admire the western elites, but I think I am better than them because of the Islam. I have contempt for the Indian elites and Indian aam, but I need Indian elites until I can rule them again. I know that most of the Indian neighbours are insecure about India, given the size and history(where most of these countries had no independent existence).
I know that jihadi infrastructure is funded by us(pakis). And it is allowed to exist due to the benevolence of the indian elites.
So, all that is fine. But, when I look at what has been really achieved with all this support. Then, I am truly disappointed. The successes have been much less than what they should have been. And failures have been grand to the extent that it has attracted international attention.
It is like failing to win even when playing with loaded dice. Imagine that! In 60 years, how much land has been won and how much land was lost? Not an extra-inch of land has been won. And BD has been lost. That BD is still islamist is the only consolation.
I know that Islamic conquest to east was blunted by Hindus of India. They are deceptively strong. They seem benign, but are not to be under-estimated. Mooh mein ram ram, bagal mein churi... Dangerous guys...
For centuries, Islamic warriors waged war with those kafirs, but ultimately they survived. This is something that is unique. No other place or people have been able to replicate this feature. And it is only good fortune that Indian elites hate Hinduism and support us. One cannot imagine the horror of Hindu leader ruling Hindu India. That would be a disaster. It may even reverse the successes of Islam in this region(read we, the paki rape, may have to re-convert to Hinduism to survive).
So, it is imperative that present conditions be fully exploited. The biggest problem is the state of pakistan and state of India. Another evidence that Hindus should not be under-estimated. When I read news about pakistan, there is nothing but disgust, disappointment and angst. Nothing is there to admire in this wretched place. Everyone knows about pakistan today, as an abomination. If you you tell you are a pakistani to anyone, they know that you are terrorist. Such a grand failure, pakistan has been. Neither success at jihad, nor at taqqiya. And, reversing this trend also seems impossible. Hope does not die, but it is looking impossible for pakistan to succeed.
Maybe it would have been better to be part of India and work from within. Imagine the total population of sub-continent muslims. That would be a massive force to work with.
I still hope that pakistan survives. But, I will escape to any other nation at the first opportunity.
All principal staff officers were also present at the meeting, sources said, adding that the meeting was discussing the TTP’s talks offer as well as the Pak-Afghan border situation and the country’s internal security situation.Earlier last week, TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan had told Dawn.com that the proscribed outfit was ready for conditional talks with the government.Ehsan had stated that the TTP had always been ready for negotiations, adding that talks would only be possible if the Pakistani government would have the authority to hold them freely.DawnNews moreover quoted sources as saying that the meeting would also discuss the matter of verification of voter lists along with security during the upcoming general elections.
. But along these lines, piskological question. I noticed in the DDM newspapers yesterday, they showed the picture of one Paki terrorist kissing the ground at Eden gardens after he had done well. To me, it indicates the passion Pakis have to conquer India. The other day, I also glanced at another Paki terrorist dancing on some show with his Indian wife and the Bollywood slut judges swooning over each other in praise. I told my wife to change the channel before I smash up our huge Panasoni TV screen. Even Gavasakr, the one man who opposed this disgusting series when it was announced said that TSP always have this intense desire to come to Mumbai. I can bet you, TSP wanted a game in Mumbai but even the shameless MMS gang could not have afforded the backlash of such a crass, seditious decision.
