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Potential Data Leak Fears - I.S.I Did Not Perform Due Diligence ; Finger - Printing System Purchased From A French Company With Israeli Connections

ISLAMABAD:

Suspicions have been raised over the possibility of the entire database of Pakistani nationals falling into the hands of hostile foreign spy agencies through a leak, said the country’s premier intelligence agency here.

The Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) has shared its apprehensions with the National Data base and Registration Authority chief in writing.

“We [the agency] can’t rule out the possibility of leakage of sensitive database [of Pakistanis] to hostile agencies – the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Mossad,” said a report prepared by the ISI.

Worth around $10 million, the Automatic Finger Print Identification System (AFIS) was purchased by NADRA from a French company, Segem, in 2004. Now, the ISI has claimed that the French-based company is ‘reportedly of Israeli origin’.[*]

[*] Now the Australian Paper, which touted ISI as # 1 in the world will have to revise its ranking

However, an official of the media department, who wished not to be named, said, “NADRA neither denies nor confirms receipt of the report from the ISI over the issue.” During background conversations over the issue, some technical experts’ associated with NADRA laughed off the ISI’s claim,[*] saying that it was not based on an understanding of NADRA’s working and its software.

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[*]Turf war ?

Automatic Finger Print Identification System – which has a ca acity to verify some seven million finger prints in one second – was handed over to NADRA on September 7, 2004. During a ceremony, held at NADRA headquarters, NADRA former chief Brigadier Saleem Moeen had said NADRA would now have resources to identify any applicant by using its cutting edge technology, thus, eliminating chances of ghost applicants/recipients.[*][/b]

However, the claim of the ex-chairman has turned out to be wrong and thousands of aliens including foreign militants successfully managed to register themselves with the database in connivance with corrupt NADRA officials.

[*] Typical Paki boasting ; contradicted by actual reports of forged ID's being obtained by non- nationals and militants AKA terrorists.

Paul wrote:Does anyone know why Pakistan did not lay a claim on Lakshadweep islands in 1947? With a muslim majority pop. it should have logically gone to Pak but I never heard of them laying a claim to it...Their ships did pay a visit to A&N islands but the Indians were there first, remember reading somewhere.

As far as I heard, some Indian ship went there a few days before a Pakistani ship, and put up an Indian flag there. Pakistani ship saw it and went away.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99nov2 ... /head7.htm
As far as the Lakshadweep Islands were concerned, it was found that as they formed part of the Madras Presidency, and they would become part of India on August 15, 1947.

But still the islands were not safe. It is said that during the last days of the British in India, Sardar Patel, the Indian Home Minister, made arrangements for a frigate of the Indian Navy to be anchored at the capital island of the Lakshadweeps on Independence Day. Soon after the Indian Naval ship reached there, another frigate —a Pakistani one — appeared on the horizon.... Jinnah was not slow to plan to take over this 100 per cent Muslim populated district of Madras Presidency from India! But seeing that India had already taken over the island, the Pakistani naval vessel left the place quickly

thanks!

Al Gaanza Shaleef
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So everybody who matters has the fingerprint database including foreign terrorista. Nice that ISI/Pakistan is a one stop shop for both terroristas world over and the good guys who want to catch them. Just infiltrate ISI - one can eat as much as one wants for one single entry price. How many dollah/riyal would it take to buy an ISI big shot, I wonder.

amit wrote:

gandharva wrote:

Aab tera kya hoga? Modi invited to speak at Twitter HQ as well!

Someone should tell photochor that Modi is going to breath the same air as him in Pakistan one of these days. Therefore Photochor and all Pakistanis should.......?

I think thats a parody account. Too stupid to be true but then this is photochor baba of the water car is feasible fame.

Modi's Warning To I.S.I Linked Hawaladars

Terror-funding groups based in Pak, Turkey are using the hawaladar network in India to set up extremist cells in major cities, including that of ISIS sympathisers.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's warning to the nation about the depredations of "hawaladars" is timely and it is expected that these words will be followed up by action against such networks. Experts tracking the global hawala trade warn that terror-funding groups based in Pakistan and Turkey are using the "hawaladar" network in India to set up extremist cells in major cities in the country, including those comprising of ISIS sympathisers, so as to "keep them in readiness for a coordinated attack on civilian targets". Recent media coverage has shown that "international media devotes significantly more space to mass civilian casualties than to those taking place in military conditions," and an explosion in publicity is seen by ISIS as essential to its growth. They say that Prime Minister Modi's just-issued warning of the "hawaladar" network was "extremely timely", and expect that "the Ministries of Finance and Home will take their cue from the PM and go after such networks in a manner not seen for two decades". Such a counter-strategy needs to get implemented before the "hawaladars" can implement the terror attack plans of their ISI controllers and associates.

According to them, "the six top cities for hawala trade in India are Delhi, Mumbai, Surat, Kolkata, Hyderabad and Kanpur", the latter being the preferred channel for the Nepal route. "In most locations, local police and other authorities get neutralised through bribes or by influence, including that exercised by more senior officials on their subordinates", an expert warned, adding that "often officials using the networks (for example to fund children studying abroad or for visits by family members to exotic locations) are themselves not aware of the error links of the hawaladars, and believe them to merely be conduits for businesspersons and politicians". Human couriers are being used, and these days, "much of the travel of cash couriers is by luxurious cars rather than by air or rail, as big cars seldom get checked, out of fear that those inside have influence". They say that both "the hawaladar network as well as the human carriers used to ferry cash around come from all communities and even comprise foreign nationals, especially those from Europe, as in India they seldom incur suspicion of being involved in criminal activity".

The revelations made by the experts include the fact that "10-15% of the money made by some ISI networks in India, including those run by the D-Company, gets paid as protection money to select politicians", and that the "agencies have evidence of this", but have thus far refused to act against such politicians. After years of governmental inaction, experts feel heartened by Prime Minister Modi's forthright condemnation of "hawaladars".

Terror talks and "core issue" talks must go hand in hand as per this Paki

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/09/14/cri ... outh-asia/

Moeed Yusuf. Instead of solving problems incrementally he wants all or nothing. Code for Kashmir.
Dream on.

Did Hamid Gul Really Offer India Peace ?

Apologies if posted earlier

On 28 August, an article provocatively titled “When Hamid Gul offered India peace” (and without a question mark) was published by the Marxist Indian newspaper The Hindu.

Verma’s key assertion in the article was that Gul offered India peace, presumably permanent peace. It came as a bombshell since Gul was known for seeding bloodshed against India over years. So, a fuller understanding of who Gul was is needed.

In 1988, RAW chief Verma led a team to meet Hamid Gul in Geneva. As per an article in the Pakistani Urdu daily Roznama Ummat dated 11 September 2015, Gul was accompanied by two other ISI officers: Major Muhammad Amir and Brigadier Aslam Bodla. The Roznama Ummat article is written by Major Muhammad Amir, who was present in the Geneva meeting.

One does not know whether or not to believe Verma’s version, or that of Amir’s own version of the events. In his article, Major Amir reveals a troubling point that the RAW chief offered Gul to hand over the details of RAW assets in Pakistan. The former ISI officer writes: “[Verma] said that you give us information regarding your one network in India. In exchange for it, we will give you the information regarding the entire [RAW] network in Pakistan.”

In his article in Roznama Ummat, a newspaper close to the ISI, Major Amir narrates an incident. When Benazir Bhutto became the prime minister for the first time, she held a meeting with Gul’s team.

“Madam, this ISI is a dangerous weapon in the hand of Pakistan,” Gul told her and added: “Keep this weapon safe for the sake of Pakistan, whether or not I live. You have the right; you can remove whoever you want from the ISI by telling the army chief but save the ISI…”[*]

[*] In summary, the author (rightly) concludes that I.S.I and by extension, Pakistan cannot be trusted

Indians Need To Be Educated About Pakistani Jihad

Sarfarosh to Phantom – Educating Indians About Pakistani Jihad

It is in the nature of human beings to live in hope and rosy utopias, which was evident when Indians sat through Salman Khan’s Bajrangi Bhaijaan – crying, liking and applauding an Indian Hindu who takes a lost mute girl back to her home in Pakistan.

On 28August, Bollywood released Phantom, a reality check on this hopeful human emotion,in which an Indian Muslim goes underground to avenge the 26/11 terror attacks on Mumbai. Acted by Saif Ali Khan, the daredevil blows up a Pakistani terrorist’s house in London, gets himself arrested to get into Chicago’s jail where he poisons David Headley for his involvement in the 26/11 attacks, and later enters Pakistan wherehe succeeds in killing Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the leader of Pakistani state-created jihadist organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba, also known as Jamaatud Dawa.

In recent years, Bollywood movies have played a bigger role than the Indian government and the media in educating India’s people about terror threats, especially about intricate ways in which terrorists hatch plans, recruit agents,establish sleeper sells and execute attacks.

India faces two types of jihadist terrorism: the first originates from the Pakistani military state, which sends jihadists into Kashmir and elsewhere in India; the second is a recent phenomenon and involves self-radicalisation of Indian Muslims, who joined the Islamic State (ISIS).

In Western democracies, people are increasingly opposed to wars. India being a democracy, it will be difficult for India to act against foreign terror sponsors if people do not support the government.

Therefore, the role of Bollywood movies in educating Indians about terrorism is vital and meaningful, especially at this point when jihadist threats are multiplying. Also, Indians must know that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, especially Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS), are ISI’s branches.

Although led by Arabs, Al-Qaeda is basically a Pakistani organization; it was formed in Peshawar in 1988 when ISI had emerged victorious in Afghan jihad; it is from Pakistan that it spread to the Middle East. Al-Qaeda is practically a branch of the ISI, as both want the establishment of the Islamic Caliphate, with the only difference being that the ISI wants Pakistan to be the head of such an international caliphate.[*]

[*] Not to forget that Pakistan is the only Islami Nuclear Takaat in the whole world

For example,the ISI protected Osama bin Laden and is believed to be protecting his successor Ayman Al-Zawahiri,[*] who has expressed support for the new Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mansoor, who is essentially an ISI commander.

[*] Would not be surprised that he has already gone "the Mullah Omar way "

It is interesting that the lead character in Phantom is a Muslim. It is a must-watch movie for Indian Muslims who should keep in mind that India is absolutely the best country when compared with hardcore Muslim countries. It is the only country where Muslims have lived under sustained democratic experience for the past half a century and more. No Muslim country can match economic and educational opportunities as well as religious and political liberties that India offers to Muslims.

Google Suspends[*] Tarek Fateh's You Tube Channel [/url]

[*] Hidden Hand of Deep State cannot be ruled out ? He is a real P.I.A ( Pain In The A...s for the Pakis !)

Tuvaluan wrote:Mildly edited for relevant quotes:

A_Gupta wrote:Does Pakistan have a sovereign state, i.e., a state which has the legitimate monopoly on the use of force, enforcement of the law?

It does not.

But that does not mean it is a failed state.

Pakistan is made up of a number of camps, the civilian government with its police, the Pakistani Army, the ISI, the LeT, the various other armed groups -- within limits, each of these has the right to use force


I don't know if there is any equivalent to Pakistan's organization in the modern world.

PS: One could argue that the anti-blasphemy mobs are yet another camp, who are permitted to operate within the context of insults to the Faith.

Don't see how Pakistan is different from Somalia if one accepts that there are different groups that are already jostling for power in pakistan, with one top dog, the paki army. And if so, why is pakistan not a failed state? If we ignore for a moment, just for the sake of argument, the fact that paki army wears an uniform and is a arm of the islamic republic only in name -- it functions more like the Kim Jong Il regime in NoKo, which is readily accepted as a failed state.

So, If we ignore that the army in Pakistan is less an army and more a collection of thugs who wouldn't hesitate to decimate Paki citizens of any shape or form, and thus operate outside any written constitution, then the comparison of pakistan to Somalia (for example) is pretty apt, there are a few dozen warlords with vasrying degrees alliances and hostility that operate together in a common area.

This is exactly the situation decribed in the above post and in the earlier posts about a good part of pakistan, specifically where ever the army writ is not supreme. If this comparison to somalia does not seem too far-fetched, why is one considered a failed state and the other not? They both seem to limp along and the powers in these territories manage to exist on dole and global and local criminal activity, as is the norm when Chaos rules.

Consider this from a dailytimes article in the IS thread:

Quote:
DERA ISMAIL KHAN: Pakistan militants who have pledged allegiance to Islamic State said on Sunday they had attacked a paramilitary checkpoint along the Afghan border, in the first such assault claimed by a former faction of the Taliban in several months. A militant affiliated with the faction told Reuters the group attacked Damadola District of the Bajaur tribal area, where the military has been battling a militant insurgency since 2007, late on Saturday. “Our men destroyed the post, set it on fire and left it after our operation was complete,” he said by telephone. Two Pakistani intelligence officials confirmed a checkpoint had been attacked, but there were no casualties.

I am still ambivalent about US and Paki claims that this IS is actually the same one operating in WAsia, but even if it was and it challenges the paki army, that makes it imperative that India not join any side that works against IS that operates in Pakistan to the army's detriment...though I very much doubt that this IS will work against the paki army, more than it does against the Afghans.

Perhaps the situation is a variation of the The Emperor's New Clothes for the Arabs, UK, US and China since they have tried for quite some time to make something of Pakistan and have yet to see much in meaningful results.

a fairy tale -- by Hans Christian Andersen about an emperor who pays a lot of money for some new magic clothes which can only be seen by wise people. The clothes do not really exist, but the emperor does not admit he cannot see them, because he does not want to seem stupid. Everyone else pretends to see the clothes too, until a child shouts, "The Emperor has no clothes on!"

The effort to make something of places such as Somalia and North Korea wasn't the same, so it was easier to give up on them.

Guys, TSP is desperate for kirket, actually, not so much for kirket, but the moolah they hope they to rake in. This is indeed a leverage India has and must use to squeeze the b@stards. Until TSP delivers on pigLeTs, starting with 26/11, there should be no kirket:

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/ha ... 150913.htm

CRamS wrote:Guys, TSP is desperate for kirket, actually, not so much for kirket, but the moolah they hope they to rake in. This is indeed a leverage India has and must use to squeeze the b@stards. Until TSP delivers on pigLeTs, starting with 26/11, there should be no kirket:

In my humble opinion, India should always be ready to play Pakistan. But, just as when details are being decided, it should back out giving different reasons every time. And Allah All Mighty knows there are enough reasons at any given time. That way the loss of Moolah will be felt even more.
Gautam

^^^[urlhttp://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report-pcb-s-pla ... ck-2124691]PCB's plan to invite World XI team hits expense roadblock.[/url]

Pakistan cricket authorities have faced a setback of sorts in their plans to get a World eleven squad to play in the country sometime next year.

A reliable source in the PCB has told PTI that the estimated expenses for having the World eleven tour Pakistan is much more than anticipated by the cricket board.

"The PCB has asked Giles Clarke of the England and Wales cricket board, who also heads the ICC task force on Pakistan, to organise the tour for them," the source said.

"PCB Chairman Shahryar Khan held several meetings with Clarke during a recent visit to London where the plans for having a World eleven play in Pakistan were discussed and finalised. But the expenses quoted by Clarke for assembling the World eleven and bringing them to Pakistan is ten times what the PCB had anticipated," the source said.

"Clarke has included the names of some big players like Chris Gayle, Glen Maxwell, Pollard, Bravo, Morgan etc in his anticipated squad and obviously these top players will have to be paid well to get them to be part of the World eleven," the source stated.

He said the PCB had now asked Clarke to review and reconsider the expenses for the World eleven tour dates, which are yet to be finalised.

Except for Zimbabwe no other Test team has toured Pakistan since March 2009 when militants attacked the Sri Lankan team in Lahore. The source said even the tour by Zimbabwe last May to Pakistan was not that expensive compared to the figures quoted for the World eleven.

Interestingly the PCB had paid out nearly half a million dollars to the Zimbabwe cricket board to cover their players allowances, fees, air travel and other expenses.

The PCB has been desperate to have international cricket in the country but has been confined to negotiating with the weaker cricket playing nations or the associate member teams.

Even a planned tour by the Bangladesh women's team this year is in doldrums despite a visit by their security delegation this week to Karachi and Lahore to inspect security arrangements for the series.

Sorry. While I personally detest cricket I can have no objections to others loving the game. But when Indians make the question of cricket with Pakistan as an issue of triumph when the Paki team loses or the PCB is slighted, we are only adding to the "equalequalitis" Why complain about being treated on par with Pakistan when Indians are obsessed with what the Pakistani cricket team is doing? This thread is about Pakistan and those of us who spend time being happy about Pakistan's cricket failures and misfortunes are complicit in making creating a future victory for Pakistan if India meets Pakistan at a third party event like the World Cup and they win.

Cricket should find no mention on this thread. Maybe on Benis. There really are some things that should go to Benis an this IMO includes "funny" news about Pakistan and news that shows Pakistan in a ludicrous light.

Falijee wrote:Google Suspends[*] Tarek Fateh's You Tube Channel [/url]

[*] Hidden Hand of Deep State cannot be ruled out ? He is a real P.I.A ( Pain In The A...s for the Pakis !)

This reflects on Google/YouTube as much as Pakistan.

Why India quit when it was winning in 1965 http://indiafacts.co.in/the-1965-war-wh ... s-winning/

enjoy
http://rehamkhan.blogspot.in/2015/01/bi ... 7.html?m=1

habal wrote:enjoy
http://rehamkhan.blogspot.in/2015/01/bi ... 7.html?m=1

If even 50 per cent of what is written in the blog is true then one can say the Great Khan got struck in head by a beamer!

http://rehamkhan.blogspot.in/2015/01/bi ... 7.html?m=1

That is too funny! Totally inbred bunch of characters!

interview with dr. ejaz rehman, ex-husband of reham khan
https://youtu.be/hEK2GuNM134

he substantiates in a way what is written in that blog, saying reham khan was way too cunning and shrewd, ambitious. He also says that she hated pakistan and thought it was a filthy place and put a condition that the dr. buy a really palatial house if she were to stay with him in pakistan. He bought a palatial house at chak shezad and then she divorced him.

habal wrote:enjoy
http://rehamkhan.blogspot.in/2015/01/bi ... 7.html?m=1

habal Ji :

Seemingly the lady suffers the malady of having identical magnetic poles in the inner part of her knees.
Cheers

shiv wrote: Why complain about being treated on par with Pakistan when Indians are obsessed with what the Pakistani cricket team is doing?

"...Tann Se Toh Aajad Ham Ho Gaye Hain, Mann Se Gayee Naa Gulaamee"
(lyrics: http://www.glamsham.com/music/lyrics/sa ... 6/8850.htm )

Physically we are free, but the minds are still enslaved.

PS: IMO, four posts above belong in the BENIS thread.

From the Reham Khan story linked above, this below nugget is impenetrable. Or somehow I'm able to make the connection. Can somebody clarify, what's the significance of "container" - wtf is that about?

>>She informed him at container, that she is in possession of a video which will be made public very soon. Only then he agreed for nikah.

^^ During the Dharna Captan Saab had an Air conditioned Container as his mobile Home / Dharna Platform.

Ahhh..ok that container. I didn't make the connection. The story is unintentionally hilarious.

amit wrote:

habal wrote:enjoy
http://rehamkhan.blogspot.in/2015/01/bi ... 7.html?m=1

If even 50 per cent of what is written in the blog is true then one can say the Great Khan got struck in head by a beamer!

khan thinks with another part of his anatomy.

http://www.pakimag.com/politics/imran-k ... ainer.html

http://www.pakimag.com/politics/imran-k ... roof-truck

JE Menon wrote:Ahhh..ok that container. I didn't make the connection. The story is unintentionally hilarious.

It's their Indrani versus our Indrani.

both husbands seem to be proper buddhus dipping their wicks where it don't belong onlee..

lol even in the original pics im the dim appeared pretty glum

Immy, in my opinion, wants to apply western standards of education, honesty, fair play etc; this is obviously due to his days in Londonistan where he hobnobbed with the rich and famous ; but he is no better than the Mullah, when he uses Islam to rouse the Aam Abduls, does not allow "democracy" in his own party (PTI) and does not accept decisions which go against him or his party; as for his personal life, that is something else.

The Paki Fauj, would however "love" him, if he becomes PM

Don't know who has written that Immy blog - but he certainly does shoot straight from the hip.

Falijee wrote:Immy, in my opinion, wants to apply western standards of education, honesty, fair play etc; this is obviously due to his days in Londonistan where he hobnobbed with the rich and famous ; but he is no better than the Mullah, when he uses Islam to rouse the Aam Abduls, does not allow "democracy" in his own party (PTI) and does not accept decisions which go against him or his party; as for his personal life, that is something else.

The Paki Fauj, would however "love" him, if he becomes PM

I like this estyle. Just read the bold part and you know the article. This is how I read long boaring whines,articles,opeds by great sekular intellectuals . You get the idea and save time.

That "container" was an eye opener to me, just like the flood was. Not that I did not know that RAPEs were just Feudal lords masquerading as westernized islamics, but what I really did not know was that the aam abdul bakis who are dimmy supporters (youthias IIRC according to Baby Bhutto), were completely ok with the dimmy spending his time in his custom designed refrigerated "container" whereas they are out in the islum-abad heat doing their slumming for the kaaptan.

AFAIK ,no one, not even the most liberal minded RAPEs, saw through the "container"baazi and called it out for what it was: A physical manifestation of the RAPE sense of being separate from the unwashed. The need to stay protected from the dirt that is Bakistan.

Everyone seems to be completely ok with the feudal structure.

Regardless of offers on table, capacity to strike deep within Pakistan against terrorists must not be blunted. We should take note of how Russians deployed nuke sub next to Syria if that supports its objectives. In fact, we could have sent some troops to support Syrians in case Russians can provide naval access and Iranians can provide land access just to completely rout ISIL barbarians. No point blunting preparedness one bit for total kirkit with munna Aman.

By the way, remember Pakistani NSA miya "not terror" Aziz. It seems Pakistan is full of such shameless bunch who will talk selectively.
link

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The note cites no reason for Pakistan's sudden change of mind.

Pakistan was invited only after it conveyed keenness to be part of this Indialed effort under the 26-member Colombo Plan, officials said.
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India was planning to share a dossier on some drug lords from Pakistan, some of whom are suspected to have links with terrorist outfits.
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Read it all. The secular Aman (ref. Aman ki Asha) is from the country where terrorists and druglords are linked if it is acceptable in normal civilized society.
However, note this another news item: link

NDRF was attempting to arrive at an informal understanding between Saarc nations to pool their resources to help a fellow Saarc country in times of natural disasters.

Being selective anytime seems to be plus point of Pakistani representatives (aka Amans) such as Pakistani NSA miya "not terror" Aziz.

Atleast 80% of the aman ki ayesha nautanki and the equal-equalitis is propagated by movies and actors anyways. Take that mahesh butt character and his idiotic love for sickularism, all the paki sadakchap singers making it big in Hindi movies, from adnan sami to that guy who starred in the bin-laden movie. Cut and regulate that emotional bullshit and things will get better on their own.

I've also found the women in India are especially prone to this kind of stupid sympathy, again mostly learned from Hindi movies about "love conquers all" and "pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism and we all are children of gods" etc. Even a majority of actors parrot the same view. Bunch of despicable idiots who earn their living from Indians and then gracefully shit on them. There needs to be a disciplinary committee for media people and the limit of stupidity they are allowed to vomit on the very country they are living in.

Rishi kapoor is also jumping up quite a lot these days, have been reading his tweets. Wonder how many of them are on payrolls of dawood bhau and co.


Second, no matter how much you GUBO in the name of peace, baakis hate Hindus to the core, they don't even care what you say or you do. They would kill you if you could. That's why the best thing to do is to focus on the real frenemies China and US. The public needs a lot more education on these two countries and the threat they possess to the country. pakistan is a nuisance, it should be treated as such. Just the other day, one paki i know was crying about his visa being denied (he wants to see his ancestral land or some crap like that). The same should be applied for these paki actor/singer freeloaders. They can do their jumla/mujra in some red light district of karachi, no need to invite these people in the country.