Even if such a meeting were to take place it would be all over the papers in Pakistan

Russian Foreign Ministry denies reports appearing in the media of the terrorist fomenting Islaic Republic of Pakistan that Russia will join the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.krishna_krishna wrote:^^^ Meeting did take place :
"But the strangest bit of news would be that earlier this month, Gwadar also received Russia’s Federal Security Services chief Alexander Bogdanov.
It was a hush-hush inspection tour aimed at assessing the efficacy of Russian ships using the port during their long voyages, to assert Moscow’s return to the global stage.
Equally, this is the first visit by a Russian spy chief to Pakistan in over two decades and it took place just as America elected a new president, Donald Trump.
Maybe the timing is coincidental, but more likely, it is not. The Russian diplomacy invariably moves in lockstep.
Bogdanov’s visit was scheduled just a few weeks before the planned trilateral strategic dialogue between Russia, China and Pakistan, ostensibly regarding the Afghan situation, in Moscow next month.
Bogdanov reportedly sought a formal Russian-Pakistani collaborative tie-up over the CPEC."
From Here:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1298977/chines ... nal-policy
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https://sputniknews.com/business/201611 ... adar-port/
29 November 201611:15
Comment by the Information and Press Department on Pakistani media reports about Russia’s alleged involvement in the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor project
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The Pakistani media reports about “secret negotiations” between Russia and Pakistan on the implementation of projects as part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) are not true to the facts. Moscow is not discussing the possibility of joining this project with Islamabad.
Russia-Pakistan trade and economic cooperation has its own inherent value, and we intend to strengthen it. Russian companies are implementing business projects in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, including the planned construction of the North-South gas pipeline from Karachi to Lahore, on a bilateral basis.
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India and Russia friendship is time tested and will remain forever, Alexander Kadakin said. Speaking exclusively on the occasion of celebrations related to the 70th year of diplomatic relations between India and Russia, Russian Ambassador Alexander Kadakin said that, "Russia and India are closest partners. The friendship between the two countries is time tasted ad it will remain forever."
Emphasizing the level and depth of India-Russia relations ambassador Kadakin added that, "India-Russia defense and nuclear energy relations has been excellent. In fact, they could not have been better."
India and Russia will be celebrating 70 years of diplomatic ties next year and India has announced a series of events to mark the diplomatic ties.
NEW DELHI: Call it the Narendra Modi effect and the Indian Prime Minister’s effort to promote yoga at the international level. Communist Russia’s military has decided to go in for India’s traditional yogic exercises and the ancient art of ayurveda to cure the ill and heal the injured. These two disciplines are among a host of Oriental disciples, including medicinal systems of the Tibetan, Uighur, Buryat and Yakut.
Russian media quoted Colonel Vyacheslav Polovinka, head of the Moscow branch of the S.M. Kirov Military Medical Academy, as saying: “The decision to use methods of traditional oriental medicine was made by the main military medical directorate of the ministry of defence”.
“We are studying the experience and subtlety of oriental medicine, which evolved over thousands of years, and are trying to integrate them into our standard treatments,” Col. Polovinka was quoted as saying.
Interestingly, in November 2015, Russian and Indian military troops practised yogic exercises like “Anulom-Vilom”, “Suryasana”, “Vajrasana” and “Ardha Matsyendrasana” in special sessions during the “Indra-2015” bilateral military exercise in Rajasthan.
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Nothing has changed. Pak is isolated and that is being exploited by Russia in its own terms. It has to benefit Russia in AfghanistanEric Thompson wrote:Seems like Indo-Russian relations are done and are being replaced by Russo-Pak relations.
“Russia has a different history with Pakistan. We are trying to explore cooperation with Pakistan primarily to counter terror. But Russia’s ties with Pakistan will not be at the cost of our special and privileged strategic partnership with India. This has been explained by our highest leadership to India’s topmost leadership,” Kabulov told ET on the sidelines of the Heart of Asia meet in Amritsar.
Kabulov was leading the Russian delegation at the Heart of Asia meet, where Russia is one of the 14 stakeholders. He was answering a question on Russia’s emerging ties with Pakistan and recent reports of Pakistan’s “secret talks” with Russia on the use of Gwadar Port and joining China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), which were denied by Russia’s foreign ministry. “I myself drafted that rebuff. I am also in charge of South Asia desk in the Russian foreign ministry and I am not aware of it.I do not know from where the suggestion to use either Gwadar or CPECBSE -4.45 % emerged. There is no such proposal,” Kabulov said.
Kabulov said, “Russia-Pakistan military ties are commercial in nature. With India our military partnership is deep and we offer long credit to India for acquiring military supplies. Therefore the nature of two relationships is different.” Kabulov, an old Afghanistan hand, stressed that Islamic State or Daesh is emerging as the main terrorist group not only in Afghanistan but across regions and suggested that India should remain cautious against this threat.
So, Mr. Talukdar is saying that Russia will be replaced by Afghanistan! And India will be replaced by Pakistan in the Russian relationship.http://www.firstpost.com/india/heart-of ... 40492.html
Heart of Asia realignments: India-Afghanistan in open courtship as Russia falls by wayside
By Sreemoy Talukdar
In diplomacy, the subtext is often as important as the text. As the sixth edition of the annual Heart of Asia Conference came to a close on Sunday, between the comments and declarations, the narrative and the counter-narrative, lay the contours of a new, deviatory foreign policy under Prime Minister Narendra Modi. A nation's strategic affairs are usually the result of well-curated gradualism. Major shifts are rare unless there is a confluence of circumstances and a strong leadership willing to shake off hesitations of history. At the end of the two-day summit, it does appear that India is on the cusp of a bold revision. Two things are immediately clear.
One, India is no longer coy about its relationship with Afghanistan and sees the Central Asian nation as an important pivot. Two, it is fast recalibrating its historic ties with Russia. We are still a long way away from hearing the last word of an enduring strategic partnership but New Delhi is close to accepting (after staying in long denial) that the Cold War-era bonhomie with Moscow is over. Indo-Russian ties, too, have fallen prey to the sweeping currents of realignment triggered by the end of American exceptionalism and the simultaneous rise of China.
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But while one historic bond is being revived, another one fell by the wayside. In an extraordinary manouvre that reflected the depths of disparity in which Indo-Russian ties have fallen, Vladimir Putin's envoy Zamir Kabulov rejected India and Afghainstan's criticism of Pakistan and lectured on the need to "avoid scoring brownie points" on multilateral platforms such as these.
Though major regional and global players met in Amritsar ostensibly to guide Afghanistan through its political and economic transition, in reality Heart of Asia platform was reduced to staging just another boxing bout between India, Pakistan and Afghanistan with Russia trying to play the referee and media in Islamabad and New Delhi in breathless anticipation for resumption of talks.
As if that would serve any purpose.
The way the pugilists threw their punches, it became abundantly clear that Kabul and New Delhi now see no point in downplaying the convergence of their strategic and commercial interests. In setting diplomatic niceties aside and blasting Pakistan's complicity in sponsoring terror within its borders and inflicting an "undeclared war", Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani reflected his growing frustration with a delinquent neighbour. The ferocity of his charge not only laid bare Pakistan's duplicity but also ratified New Delhi's line on cross-border terrorism.
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Part of Rosneft sold to Qatar- who funds Syrian and Libyan rebels! This is hilarious.
The Pakistani media is clapping its hands in glee over the ‘snub’ it believes India received from Russia’s special envoy to Afghanistan, Zamir Kabulov, on the sidelines of the recent Heart of Asia conference in Amristar. It only reveals fatuousness.
They are making much of Kabulov’s comment that the HoA is “not the right place to settle scores between member countries”, describing it as a virtual exoneration of Pakistan and a slap on India’s face. In fact, the comment was made in response to a request by a journalist for a reaction to the speech of the Afghan President, Ashraf Ghani.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi did not refer to Pakistan in his speech. He only spoke about terrorism. Ghani, on the other hand, was extremely blunt, calling upon Pakistan to contain the flood of terrorists surging from there into Afghanistan. Quoting a Taliban leader, he said the terror outfit wouldn’t last a month without Pakistan’s support. Using exceptionally strong words, Ghani told Pakistan to keep for itself aid worth $500 million that Pakistan had pledged for development in Afghanistan, and instead, use the money to contain terrorists. Kabulov was specifically asked about this comment; his response was that such bilateral issues were out of place at the conference.
Missing the point
In the ensuing narrative, Pakistan seems to have missed giving President Ghani’s pain its due recognition. Ghani’s predecessor, Hamir Karzai, was pronouncedly pro-India, anti-Pakistan. But when Ghani took over in September 2014, it was widely expected that he, (being a Pashtun, one of the major ethnic groups of Pakistan), would tilt towards Pakistan. He did.
One of Ghani’s first meetings was with the then Pakistani army chief, Raheel Sharif, and the meeting was, by all accounts, extremely cordial. If the pendulum has swung to the other extreme now, Pakistan has only itself to blame. It has provided sanctuary to the ‘good Taliban’.
Petting a venomous snake is never safe, it will not refrain from biting you just because you provided it food and shelter. The Taliban, as is well-known, was created with the US’ blessings to jihad-out the Russians, but has since turned against the very state it was meant to protect, namely, Afghanistan, wanting to rule the country itself. Since the Afghan Taliban has lived under the Pakistan’s protective umbrella, Afghanistan is angry with Pakistan. That Pakistan is constrained to sup with the Taliban due to its own geopolitical imperatives is of no interest to the Afghan government. (Recently the Taliban seems to have turned against its own benefactors — it is believed that last month’s attack on the shrine of Sufi saint Shah Noorani, which saw 52 people being killed, was indeed carried out by the ‘Afghan Taliban’ which is supposed to be friendly to Pakistan. The attack was apparently carried out at the behest of the IS which the Taliban is now cosying up to. Thus, Pakistan has trouble on both its borders, at a time when it has to deal with terrorism on its own soil and a frazzled economy.
Pakistan now has no control over the forces it unleashed and expects its neighbours to be understanding of its helplessness — even if they suffer the effects of those forces. Ghani, clearly, was not prepared to play ball. Hence, the fulmination at Amritstar.
Pakistan’s foreign affairs advisor, Sartaj Aziz, who represented his country at the Heart of Asia conference, responded to Ghani, mumbling that it was not fair to single out one country for terrorism.
The ‘dialogue’ between Ghani and Aziz turned out to be the highlight of the conference. Kabulov was commenting on that. All he said in essence was, let us not talk about this subject here. His comment had nothing to do with India. Why that has Pakistan in a delirium of joy, is beyond reason.
Poor PakisBart S wrote:The Chindu article has a point, but it is already a known one, that Pakis are full of crap and bluster and bravado that has no basis in reality.
However the point still remains that Russia should have sided with Afghanistan and not Pakistan on that matter, or at least STFU like the rest of the countries.
It's probably a good thing that morons like you are kept far away from India's foreign policy.rohiths wrote:But despite all denials, the Indo-russian relations have deteriorated in the last 10 years. It will continue to go downhill as Russia will have less and less strategic value to India.
Russia is a dying country and by 2025, India will be ahead of Russia in almost everything and India's economy will be 4X larger. Russia will end up as a dependency of China in the best case and will breakup again in the worst case post Putin.
Russian-China-India-Asian alliance is an fact that is happening , Look at BRICS bank or China led Asian Development Bank where India is the 2nd largest partner or even SCO led business initiativedevesh wrote:Apologies for the name-calling....but honestly: do people realize what it would mean for India if the fantasy idea of Russia-China entente becomes true?
So when Indian people speak with joy or careless nonchalance about Rus become junior ally to PRC, I have to question their sanity.
US & Russia relations are fundamentally divergent at geo-political/strategic level , these cannot be crossed over by Trump , Putin or who ever comes later.Prem wrote:US Russia alignment may provide us ample time to consolidate our national power to handle PRC. Hint will come in Japan Russia peace treaty getting negotiated by Abe and Putin.