Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 26 Sep 2013 20:18

vishvak wrote:If it is status quo then what is advantage to regional satraps? CBI meherbaani? Status quo should be channelled to reinforce the state.

bhy do joo take pappu siriyasli saar? he is 16-aanaa q-tiya onlee. no one takes him seriously. he thinks this way he will motivate the cadres..

mughals in delhi hate adilshah in deccan as I said in my elaborate post earlier. they are together only to survive and defeat and rule over divided kafirs... when kaafirs are growing strong, how can imagine that momins will separate, hain ji?

now qutubshah of golkonda is also released from jail, no? it is simple. mughal dynasty hate these ajlaf shias of deccan, but are in alliance with them and will not break that alliance.. and as long as this alliance exists, our guys cannot establish themselves firmly in KG basin..

No help is coming for our shivaji from KG basin this time, I am sorry and ashamed to say.. unless he can bring in MNS, he should not expect much from KG basin nor should he waste his precious time in rest of MH.. Vidarbha is firmly in BJP basket.. few seats here and there in rest of MH.. a rally in vidarbha will solidify NG even more, but only if time permits him.

23-24 MH-seats for NDA at the most saar.. not a game-changer...

What I am worried about more is something I said long ago... MIM and NCP will be getting stronger in Marathwada region of MH.. may be this will not reflect in seats this time, but definitely it will be seen in votes.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 26 Sep 2013 22:52

Vidarbha on side but Maraathawaadaa not.. this when con race has CMship and PMship too while NCP is happy with local jagirdaari only and won't consider any bit more. Divide and rule instead of consolidation in Maraathawaadaa against BJP. Wasn't it lost because adilshahi had bigger artillery a few hundred years back. It's not how it is now. This is like US occupation in Japan decades after WW2 even when Germany is united etc over time.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Sep 2013 00:00

Muppala garu.. check these groupings http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=260

Do you think Modi can do 200 in Group A, 60 in Group B and 5 in Group C?

Can the termite-Ateam do 25 in Group A, 20 in Group B and 20 in Group C?
Can the termite-Bteam do 23 in Group A, 40 in Group B and 80 in Group C?
Can the termite-Cteam do 30 in Group C?

Can the non-termite team do 40 in group C?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Sep 2013 06:17

With Narendra Modi in front, BJP targets 262 Lok Sabha seats

NEW DELHI: Riding the Narendra Modi juggernaut, the BJP is setting more ambitious goals for itself in 2014. The party is now targeting 262 Lok Sabha seats where it anticipates bright chances for itself even as it reaches out to all possible allies.

Of these seats, the biggest chunk of 55 is from the 80-member Uttar Pradesh and the only states where it has no hopes of winning a single seat are Manipur, Tripura and Pondicherry.

The targets are based on an internal state-wise assessment made earlier this month around the time when the party had decided to declare Modi as Prime Ministerial candidate.

While drawing up its list of seats to focus on, the party has taken into account seats it has won at some point in general elections since 1989, seats it lost narrowly and the Modi factor leading to a repeat of its 1998 performance in UP when the majority community voted cutting across caste lines.

In Uttar Pradesh in the 2009 elections, the BJP won only ten seats and lost 11 by a margin of less than 50,000 votes. With UP being seen as its key to power in Delhi, the BJP is considering going a bit slow on its plans of a series of Modi rallies in the state and build up momentum closer to general elections. "With elections due only in April-may, we don't want to start a vigorous campaign immediately," a party leader said.

Modi will now focus on states heading for assembly polls this year, the south and the northeastern region, the leader said. The party has set its eyes on 14 of the 28 seats in Karnataka if former chief minister BS Yeddyurappa does not return to the BJP fold and 21 if he does, three in the 39-member Tamil Nadu assembly, four of 42 in Andhra Pradesh and one out of 20 in Kerala.

In Haryana, the BJP hopes to gain an upper hand through a pact with Om Prakash Chautala's INLD and Kuldeep Bishnoi's Haryana Janhit Congress (HJC). While it is pinning its hopes on three Lok Sabha seats in the state without Chautala, with him by its side the BJP is eyeing six seats. The party is already in an alliance with the HJC.

Other states where the BJP is banking on in the battle for Delhi are Maharashtra, where its zooming in on 30 of the 48 seats, Gujarat (25 of 26), Madhya Pradesh (23 of 29), Bihar (20 of 40) and Rajasthan (19 of 25).

But its Plan 2014, depends heavily on UP. The BJP is hopeful of regaining lost ground in the state and reaching out to new vote banks like the Jats, consolidate its Hindu votebank with Modi at the helm and cash in on his development plank.

While the political fallout of the Muzzafarnagar riots has given the BJP hopes of further capitalizing on the "anger" among the majority community against the Akhilesh Yadav government, there are apprehensions that the Muslims, disillusioned with the SP, could gravitate towards the Congress.

The BJP is treading cautiously while selecting candidates, with winnability and untainted image being given priority. "The party does not want to make a mistake like it did in the UP assembly election last year when it inducted Baburam Kushwaha (a tainted former minister in Mayawati government)," a state leader said.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Sep 2013 06:54

Read eenadu paper today and Kavuri's comments.

He says one incident can change the outcome and gives the example of RG Sr's assassination and the results before and after that

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 27 Sep 2013 07:02

BizStd (i.e. BS) has traditionally had an anti-namo line, IIRC.

BJP identifies 160 Lok Sabha seats as digital constituencies (BS)

The office of Arvind Gupta, head of the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP’s) information technology cell, is like no other in the party’s central Delhi office. There aren’t any party workers or ticket seekers here. Instead, Gupta is busy working on Facebook, Google, even Whatsapp, to tap voters’ support. And, there’s a method in the madness.

“We believe 160 of the 543 constituencies are digital seats. What happens on the internet will have an impact on these,” Gupta told Business Standard, adding that traditional campaigning tools, too, would be used in these places. “Digital will be an amplifier and a booster in these areas.” Deep data analytics, driven by the number of people using mobile phones, internet and the social media, has been used to classify every seat, Gupta said. “Our engagement is not two months old; we have been planning for this election for three years.”

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Sep 2013 07:07

RamaY wrote:Read eenadu paper today and Kavuri's comments.

He says one incident can change the outcome and gives the example of RG Sr's assassination and the results before and after that

He is purest of the junk. I would just ignore him.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Sep 2013 07:09

Hari Seldon wrote:BizStd (i.e. BS) has traditionally had an anti-namo line, IIRC.

BJP identifies 160 Lok Sabha seats as digital constituencies (BS)

The office of Arvind Gupta, head of the Bharatiya Janata Party’s (BJP’s) information technology cell, is like no other in the party’s central Delhi office. There aren’t any party workers or ticket seekers here. Instead, Gupta is busy working on Facebook, Google, even Whatsapp, to tap voters’ support. And, there’s a method in the madness.

“We believe 160 of the 543 constituencies are digital seats. What happens on the internet will have an impact on these,” Gupta told Business Standard, adding that traditional campaigning tools, too, would be used in these places. “Digital will be an amplifier and a booster in these areas.” Deep data analytics, driven by the number of people using mobile phones, internet and the social media, has been used to classify every seat, Gupta said. “Our engagement is not two months old; we have been planning for this election for three years.”

Arvind Gupta is a long time IT cell manager of BJP. Unless he denies about his message to BS, we should take it as their element of strategy.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 27 Sep 2013 09:39

Muppalla wrote:
RamaY wrote:Read eenadu paper today and Kavuri's comments.

He says one incident can change the outcome and gives the example of RG Sr's assassination and the results before and after that
He is purest of the junk. I would just ignore him.

JC Diwakar Reddy, arch rival of YSR is telling to his party man to join BJP in wholesale and teach a lesson of tit-for-tat for High Command or Don Madam.

http://eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=politics&no=18

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Sep 2013 15:27

kmkraoind wrote: JC Diwakar Reddy, arch rival of YSR is telling to his party man to join BJP in wholesale and teach a lesson of tit-for-tat for High Command or Don Madam.

http://eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=politics&no=18

These are all threatening psyops at this time but as time progresses these things could become reality. As the D-day comes a lot like this will happen. Congress party just cannot forever make all APites as monkeys and dance to glory using the emotive bifurcation of state.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Sep 2013 18:10

It is also obvious that highest offices shouldn't be held by corrupt people. More so for bigger states with more weight in parliament.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Sep 2013 19:01

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bajwa ... p/1175043/

This is the worst news of the day. I guess punjab is also going to be tough now. In 2012 assembly election, weighted average vote share of SAD-BJP is 41.9%. Congress + BSP is 44.41. BSP brings that critical 4.3% extra vote.

On the same analysis, if we pick up the 2012 results of punjab assembly and translate them to parliament, as expected BJP and SAD would have swept the polls with 11 of the 14 parliamentary seats. BUT BUT, add BSP to congress votes and bloddy hell, BJP+SAD will get just 4 of the 14.

I am telling u guys, this congress + BSP alliance can just wreck NDA. I thought they would just do it UP. But if they do it nationwide, damn it, places like punjab, areas of MP, Maharashtra where BSP has 3-4% vote, will kill BJP. Congress may really do this deal.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Sep 2013 19:15

murali, the Punjab thing is a bare scrape through for Akali+BJP even during the previous election. They changed Amarinder Singh and now Congress has a real good chance.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Sep 2013 20:12

Muppalla wrote:murali, the Punjab thing is a bare scrape through for Akali+BJP even during the previous election. They changed Amarinder Singh and now Congress has a real good chance.

Just like Namo is BJP's weapon, Mayawati is congress' bramhastra. Unfortunately I think they will defeat Namo in this battle.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Sep 2013 20:25

Will Maayaawateebehen allow this when she has seen how CBI is misused or how law and order maintained during UP has been discontinued because of compromise politics of dilli billi and Azam Khan. There are no major political differences of vision between BSP and BJP if any.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Sep 2013 21:26

muraliravi wrote:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bajwa ... p/1175043/

This is the worst news of the day. I guess punjab is also going to be tough now. In 2012 assembly election, weighted average vote share of SAD-BJP is 41.9%. Congress + BSP is 44.41. BSP brings that critical 4.3% extra vote.

On the same analysis, if we pick up the 2012 results of punjab assembly and translate them to parliament, as expected BJP and SAD would have swept the polls with 11 of the 14 parliamentary seats. BUT BUT, add BSP to congress votes and bloddy hell, BJP+SAD will get just 4 of the 14.

I am telling u guys, this congress + BSP alliance can just wreck NDA. I thought they would just do it UP. But if they do it nationwide, damn it, places like punjab, areas of MP, Maharashtra where BSP has 3-4% vote, will kill BJP. Congress may really do this deal.

It will automatically make OBCs move towards BJP. It's not that bad but back to pre-BSP days in cow-belt. In rest of the country SCs never left congress anyway.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 Sep 2013 22:36

Sushupti wrote:
muraliravi wrote:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bajwa ... p/1175043/

This is the worst news of the day. I guess punjab is also going to be tough now. In 2012 assembly election, weighted average vote share of SAD-BJP is 41.9%. Congress + BSP is 44.41. BSP brings that critical 4.3% extra vote.

On the same analysis, if we pick up the 2012 results of punjab assembly and translate them to parliament, as expected BJP and SAD would have swept the polls with 11 of the 14 parliamentary seats. BUT BUT, add BSP to congress votes and bloddy hell, BJP+SAD will get just 4 of the 14.

I am telling u guys, this congress + BSP alliance can just wreck NDA. I thought they would just do it UP. But if they do it nationwide, damn it, places like punjab, areas of MP, Maharashtra where BSP has 3-4% vote, will kill BJP. Congress may really do this deal.
It will automatically make OBCs move towards BJP. It's not that bad but back to pre-BSP days in cow-belt. In rest of the country SCs never left congress anyway.

Doubt that sir. In cow-belt there are other competing parties for the bc vote, bjp wont get everything. Moreover in states like MP, BJP is already getting most of the bc vote, so its maxed out. BJP needs to put a spanner on this alliance by hook or crook.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Sep 2013 22:43

2G gang tried coup on MMS thru ordinance fiasco.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 27 Sep 2013 23:40

Experts opinion about BJP chances.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/no-ca ... 27549.html

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?287865

I am not sure how `expert' these supposed experts are, and I would not put much faith in their prognostications. However, I have one question about the Kerala predictions and comments.

The comment, coming from a Mathrubhoomi bigwig, reads
`A section of the present upper caste Hindus and ezhavas are unhappy with the present UDF government and the Congress government at the centre for appeasing the minorities. This was aggravated when the fifth ministerial portfolio went to IUML. The two constituencies to watch out for are Kasargod and Thiruvananthapuram, where the BJP came in a close third. The LDF is likely to win most others. Since the UPA seems unlikely to win at the centre, even a small fraction of consolidated Hindu votes in these two constituencies may swing in favour of the BJP, where Modi is seen as a serious contender for PM'

Is this a fact? Is a Hindu consolidation in (parts of) Kerala in favour of the BJP possible? In particular, does the BJP have any chance in the perpetually tense constituencies of north Kerala (Kasargod, Kannur, Vadakara, and Kozhikode)? Any answers from knowledgeable Kerala watchers would be appreciated.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Sep 2013 23:47

ramana wrote:2G gang tried coup on MMS thru ordinance fiasco.

Yes!. Tone of debates on IBN (sympathetic to MMS and indirectly criticizing Raul) and NDTV (going Gaga over Raul taking charge) reflects this. IBN channel of Motabhai(aligned to US interests) while padre channel NDTV is in favor of Gandhis.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Sep 2013 23:52

nageshks wrote:Experts opinion about BJP chances.

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/no-ca ... 27549.html

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?287865

I am not sure how `expert' these supposed experts are, and I would not put much faith in their prognostications. However, I have one question about the Kerala predictions and comments.

The comment, coming from a Mathrubhoomi bigwig, reads
`A section of the present upper caste Hindus and ezhavas are unhappy with the present UDF government and the Congress government at the centre for appeasing the minorities. This was aggravated when the fifth ministerial portfolio went to IUML. The two constituencies to watch out for are Kasargod and Thiruvananthapuram, where the BJP came in a close third. The LDF is likely to win most others. Since the UPA seems unlikely to win at the centre, even a small fraction of consolidated Hindu votes in these two constituencies may swing in favour of the BJP, where Modi is seen as a serious contender for PM'

Is this a fact? Is a Hindu consolidation in (parts of) Kerala in favour of the BJP possible? In particular, does the BJP have any chance in the perpetually tense constituencies of north Kerala (Kasargod, Kannur, Vadakara, and Kozhikode)? Any answers from knowledgeable Kerala watchers would be appreciated.

I have been hearing this since 1996. But never happened once results were out.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Sep 2013 21:23

After MMS comes back he can get pappu or damad get arrested for some petty violations and see the benefit of the ordinance.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 29 Sep 2013 01:21

Upsurge of BJP in Kerala and TN is always something we hear before every election. I will only count if it happens. In AP they always have some chance but they don't play it right and lose out.

Saral · Post by **Saral** » 29 Sep 2013 01:43

I didn't see this get a recent mention. http://www.indiavotes.com/maps/pc has detailed info for all LS elections since 1952 and the maps are zoomable and draggable.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2013 10:32

Fodder scam: Lalu’s political career hangs in balance

Lalu, becomes a political untouchable, if convicted. It will be Nitish, all the way for the INC.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 30 Sep 2013 10:53

Laloo has been convicted. I think that finishes his political career, for the present, at least.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/09/30/f ... 39410.html

Laloo, of course, is irrelevant for the BJP. More interesting and pertinent is his vote bank. Laloo's vote bank was MY (Muslim-Yadav). While the Muslims may now choose the Congress (what other option do they have?), the important question is which side of the fence the Yadavs will end up? Will they support his discredited, and uninspiring party (there is no second rung leadership in RJD, so to speak). His best bet maybe to try contesting with his wife or his younger son in front. But, it is a far cry from being able to contest himself.

Would be interested in some old Bihar hands charting out any course for the BJP next, in Bihar.

Personally, I think, this is an excellent development. The post Mandal casteist parties that rose to the fore in North India, are all dying a natural death. Laloo has been rendered irrelevant, Mulayam is losing his clout, and only Mayawati is left. I would be interested in seeing which way their voters tilt, in the face of new realities.

niran · Post by **niran** » 30 Sep 2013 11:28

nageshks wrote: Mulayam is losing his clout, and only Mayawati is left. I would be interested in seeing which way their voters tilt, in the face of new realities.

Mulayam is finished from western UP,Central and Eastern UP, onree yadavs in and around Etah his home zone gonna vote for him,
yesterday while NaMo was thundering in nai dilli around 10,000 ladies and kids and men gathered for a maha panchayat in Meerut
initially there was an order from luknow to go easy to assuage the angry Jats but as soon as the crowd gathered they began chanting anti sapa slogans and NaMo jindabad etc etc polis lathicharged and the crowd grew angrier and lathicharged the polis

chasing them all the way into the school building where the polis began firing AK-series arms and Insas and tear gass, so few
polis and IPS and IAS affsars will have to apply for new vehicle and the crowd went home, by late evening in spite of direct order from

CM hisself polis did not enter the villages for mopping up action they first requested 23 companies of help then when it arrived they requested for more then it was pliss to call in the Military, till posting this it is "situationwa is tense but under control"

currently there are angry electorate to front angry electorate to left to right and behind, damn nice situation to be in an election year, no?

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2013 12:03

Am surprised to see the persistence of of anger on the ground. Akhilesh Yadav, must have bungled pretty badly and totally misjudged the mood of the people.

Or is this a delayed blow back for the tactical brilliance the Muslims displayed at Jolly Canal.

IMo, the only way he can win back the support of the masses is, if he allows the Law to take its course and quickly, for the series of gang rapes, which triggered the Bahu Bacho and Beti bacho Maha Panchyat in the first place. But looking at his actions till date, am not confident that he will do the right thing.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 30 Sep 2013 13:06

NiKumma in the crosshairs

Referred link:Gulf News

niran · Post by **niran** » 30 Sep 2013 13:20

Pratyush wrote:Am surprised to see the persistence of of anger on the ground. Akhilesh Yadav, must have bungled pretty badly and totally misjudged the mood of the people.

Or is this a delayed blow back for the tactical brilliance the Muslims displayed at Jolly Canal.

IMo, the only way he can win back the support of the masses is, if he allows the Law to take its course and quickly, for the series of gang rapes, which triggered the Bahu Bacho and Beti bacho Maha Panchyat in the first place. But looking at his actions till date, am not confident that he will do the right thing.

all of the above and more
such as 35,000 rupee for girls passing 12th standard, but there is a catch, onree minority/Yadavs girls are eligible
all laptops distributed are promptly sold in the black market, but onree Hindus are punished
Tazia were sponsored by sarkar but since last year Durga puja pandals can onree be setup by yadavs or sapa others do not get the permission those who sponsors the pandals had sapa cadres visiting them for explanations and to payup hafta to the party or else...

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 30 Sep 2013 13:35

niran wrote: all of the above and more such as 35,000 rupee for girls passing 12th standard, but there is a catch, onree minority/Yadavs girls are eligible
all laptops distributed are promptly sold in the black market, but onree Hindus are punished Tazia were sponsored by sarkar but since last year Durga puja pandals can onree be setup by yadavs or sapa others do not get the permission those who sponsors the pandals had sapa cadres visiting them for explanations and to payup hafta to the party or else...

Niranji, two questions:
1.The two sections highlighted in bold, can only be done as discrimination during the handing out of cash prize, laptops, pandal permissions. These conditions cannot be included in either the official government order. So the sarkari machinery is controlled to the last man. So much so that people from different communities belonging to the sarkari machinery have to implement this discrimination. How can this be sustainable?
2.Is SP/Akhilesh/Mulayam trying to emulate CPM thuggery in WB which ensured total control on masses by exercising control on the dharmic event celebrations of masses?

Any elaborations on the above two would be very helpful to understand long term plans and its effects. Because I am sure SP is not a bunch of fools to kill their own future.

niran · Post by **niran** » 30 Sep 2013 13:49

^^^ see saar, the election promise to provide for girls passing out 12th gave sapa very many votes, but there is a fine print
it is onree for the minority then they added Yadavs saying yadavs had been oppressed since centuries, the laptops are distributed to all
but there is a huge black-market for this, where onree hindus sellers and buyers are caught and punished if a muslim is ever caught
he is let off with a warning to be careful in future(i ain't laughing), these things would have been possible unhindered in the past, not now, now
NEWS spread with GSM or 3G speed, this fact onree NaMo seems to have realized, others do not, sapa still genuinely believe their bahobal
gona win them 50 seats, so let them live in their world.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2013 14:17

Farewell, Lalu Prasad: End of the old school politician

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 30 Sep 2013 14:31

Here in Rajasthan we have the bad habit (or say bad luck) of having State Govt. of the party which is opposition in Centre. Except ofcourse the latest Gehlot tenure.
If people have grown any smarter and BJP wins in December, then we can expect a landslide victory in May too

One wouldn't want to suffer because of State-Centre mismatch. If momentum is gained in December, it will snowball by May next year as people would ensure a same to same.
Looking at it backwards, if people see an upcoming NaMo victory next year, they will make necessary local compatibility preparations in December itself

Rajasthani bride should not be rejected by the new Dulha in Delhi.

Regards,
Virendra

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Sep 2013 14:37

Virendra Ji,

I have been reading reports that the CM in his public meetings is distributing cash (100/-) to some females. Once the meeting is over. Usually such females are from the economically weaker sections of the society. This has significantly pushed back the mind share that VRS, had managed to acquire over the last few months.

Is there any credibility to this report, and what kind of damage will this do to the BJP?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 30 Sep 2013 14:51

^^^ Gehlot has been pushing lots of goodies to the electorate using the DCT route and other means. VRS has countered by telling the public to take what gehlot is giving them (since it is public's money only) and vote BJP after taking. Only. IMO, the message is getting through in lots of places, nobody is so foolish anymore to refuse free stuff but consider themselves to be bound by it.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 30 Sep 2013 15:04

Pratyush wrote:Virendra Ji,

I have been reading reports that the CM in his public meetings is distributing cash (100/-) to some females. Once the meeting is over. Usually such females are from the economically weaker sections of the society. This has significantly pushed back the mind share that VRS, had managed to acquire over the last few months.

Is there any credibility to this report, and what kind of damage will this do to the BJP?

Pratyush ji,

Can't say about this case. I live in Noida so not in good touch with the latest bits from Rajasthan regularly.
But this much is known that Gehlot has broken a lot of records in terms of distributing goodies.
Of late he has completely turned into what he was earlier only partially showcased as - the Socialist Santaclause.
His latest tactics have become a sure shot challenge to BJP hopes in Dec and beyond.
There are two forces colliding in Rajasthan. One is the pro-poor goodie distributing Santaclause Govt. And the other is... no, not Vasundhara. It is NaMo.
Those who're making up their minds for BJP, are doing it with NaMo in sight. Sure they know Vasundhara would be CM but the catalyst and the protagonist is someone else. That is what I understand when I hear people talking about upcoming elections.
So Gehlot vs. NaMo. That being said, after Muzzafarnagar I see a new problem posed to Gehlot.
Jats are a formidable voting power in Rajasthan. One of the very few communities that still vote in good number and vote enmasse to quite an extent.
Now, after Muzaffarnagar the Jats in Rajasthan are obviously worried about the sickular Islamo-Fascist forces harboured under the wings of Congress-SP.
Marwadis in Rajasthan have business and familial links with Gujaratis and our Jats have same with the Jats of Haryana, Mewat and west UP region. Best part is, Jats don't talk (read boast) much about their unity. They keep it limited to solid action in low profile.
Typically a person pushed to the wall like this, looks for alternatives who are atleast not the communal sickular types.
And Vola !! What could be better than NaMo, who is also the synonym of development !!
To cut down the power of sickulars and strengthen the forces against them . Jats might rally with BJP this time .. in the name of Modi ofcourse. Only one thing could splinter this factor. Multiple Jat candidates from same seat.

All of the above depends on the hope that this time the Jats and others would look beyond the narrow casteist politics and vote after looking at the bigger picture. A lot is at stake.

Regards,
Virendra

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 30 Sep 2013 15:07

Hari Seldon wrote:^^^ Gehlot has been pushing lots of goodies to the electorate using the DCT route and other means. VRS has countered by telling the public to take what gehlot is giving them (since it is public's money only) and vote BJP after taking. Only. IMO, the message is getting through in lots of places, nobody is so foolish anymore to refuse free stuff but consider themselves to be bound by it.

Hari ji,

Believe me, some people are. I have firsthand cases of people telling me with a blush that last time they voted for Indira Gandhi ... oh and they were not 90 years old. The political aptitude of voters is extremely low (has been kept low) at many places.
Now you can guess where I'm coming from.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 30 Sep 2013 15:48

Pratyush wrote:Fodder scam: Lalu’s political career hangs in balance

Lalu, becomes a political untouchable, if convicted. It will be Nitish, all the way for the INC.

INC going with Nitish and Laloo going alone will be dream come true. I hope so but conviction has nothing to do with coalition politics where caste overrides performance. UP, Bihar, AP are similar cases.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 30 Sep 2013 16:01

bhargava wrote:NiKumma in the crosshairs

Referred link:Gulf News

“Jharkhand High Court has asked CBI to file report concerning involvement of Nitish, Shivanand in fodder scam by 22 November. Don’t expect much from CBI because Congress will blackmail Nitish Kumar and bargain for alliance with JD-U in lieu of favourable report,” senior Bharatiya Janata Party leader and Kumar’s former deputy Sushil Kumar Modi tweeted Saturday.

This does explain clearly why they have joined secular forces.