Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 08 Apr 2013 23:17

Watch this ndtv video. They tried so hard unsuccessfully to force their biased agenda.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/w ... o-featured

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 23:18

What is neutral supporter?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 23:19

Arjun wrote: Vir Sanghvi - Seema Goswami

They wed in June last year....unless they've divorced since, I assume they are still married.

PAID Brokers have to love PAPPU and Queen Bee and hate Modi. That is how they can keep the loot and pick up the crumbs from MAFIA.

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 08 Apr 2013 23:20

So - desi waiter in US Indian restaurant watching NaMo on TV. Could happen in "normal" times, I suppose, with any other "normal" neta, but one still gets the sense of witnessing a phenomenon.

RamaY wrote: Just a nitpic...

Aswathama unleashed "Brahmasironamakastra", not Narayanastra on Pandavas. Secondly he was one of the Adharmics in Mahabharata war, for he killed children and sleeping etc.,

RamaY, you are talking of the incident after the war, when Aswatthama killed the unborn Parikshit? I'm talking of during the war, when Krishna and Arjuna had to hold Bheema down, because Bheema refused to submit to the weapon. That one was Narayanastra, right?

But yes, Aswatthama was on the wrong side - no analogy is perfect

.

Anyways, OT here.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Apr 2013 23:27

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/naren ... n/1099376/

In a fresh articulation of his ideas on the economy and development, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi Monday said India should become a hub for defence manufacturing, states get the exclusive right to decide on labour laws and the public sector be aggressively privatised.

I can see a huge number of OFB/DRDO types really getting worked up here. Modi is taking a big risk with such open articulation. last time 2004 losses were because a number of parasites eating the iron fence were upset at the thought of actually working for pay and not being mai baap sarkar rent collectors.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 23:29

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Apr 2013 23:33

^^^
That manufacturing seems to be not really working though.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Apr 2013 23:36

Sushupti wrote:

INC's new mantra - "Right to Opposition Choice Act" ROCA

We want to have a choice to select our opposition. We want NiKu as NDA's PM candidate

Sudarshanji - got it. thx.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Apr 2013 23:37

India's unreal mind is going through a crisis. They are slowly realizing that Indians are with Modi and they will be against public by being anti-Modi. Most of the folks are probably seeing an inevitability.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Apr 2013 23:38

Sanku wrote:^^^
That manufacturing seems to be not really working though.

Chouhan was extremely blunt in saying do not compare his with Modi as he is not looking to go beyond MP. What else he can do more that that? Media junkies are just like dog's tail.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 23:44

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 23:53

Sanku wrote:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/naren ... n/1099376/

In a fresh articulation of his ideas on the economy and development, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi Monday said India should become a hub for defence manufacturing, states get the exclusive right to decide on labour laws and the public sector be aggressively privatised.
I can see a huge number of OFB/DRDO types really getting worked up here. Modi is taking a big risk with such open articulation. last time 2004 losses were because a number of parasites eating the iron fence were upset at the thought of actually working for pay and not being mai baap sarkar rent collectors.

Finally a leader with some sense. Most of these OFB/DRDO PSUs need to get sold off and competition needs to come in.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Apr 2013 00:00

Every speech is creating a crisis for the media houses.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 00:04

Muppallaji,

What can we expect from Modi's trip to Kolkata, WB? So far I think the seat tally is going up with every speech.

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 09 Apr 2013 00:08

I fear for the man's life. I wouldn't put anything past the mafia. call me paranoid, but everyone in vadra's family "died"

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 09 Apr 2013 00:17

Shonu wrote:I fear for the man's life. I wouldn't put anything past the mafia. call me paranoid, but everyone in vadra's family "died"

if this happned, India will burn for few weeks and all those guilty DIES and happy RNIs will be put through Agni Parikhya to prove themselves. Death of Modi will accomplish more in few days than whats practically possible in few years he get to govern in good health.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Apr 2013 00:21

RoyG wrote:Muppallaji,

What can we expect from Modi's trip to Kolkata, WB? So far I think the seat tally is going up with every speech.

You bet. There are several surveys and a lot is changing and that is the reason for the sulking seculars and the fence sitting parties for becoming cautious. NaMo seems to have a team and is working on a method.

I am actually enjoying the discomfort of all but truly disappointed with some of the BJP folks. The length to which some of the BJP leaders are falling down tells we always have Ambhi kumarish blood in our blood lines and we do everything for our ego satisfaction.

Per Zee news article Uma Bharati is suddenly on an all out praise of Chouhan (he never asked for it) and goes on to even say MP growth is more than Gujarat. If a state grows better then it really good and what is her point of comparing with Gujarat?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Apr 2013 00:59

Bengal Inc lines up to woo Narendra Modi

While Modi may be interested to reach out to a larger audience, the secretariats of the three host chambers are having a tough time restricting the invitee list to 800. "I have never seen such craze. Just about everyone wants to attend the programme," said MCC functionary S Roy.

The MCC has received 5,000 requests but has been able to meet only 230. Nayantara Pal Chowdhury, former president of Bengal National Chamber of Commerce & Industry, who has managed to bag an invite, says the mad scramble is justified given Modi's enigmatic image in this part of the country.

Modi will arrive in the city on Monday evening. On Tuesday morning, he is likely to visit Belur Math and Kalighat between 6am and 9.30am. Thereafter, he will address business leaders and follow it up with meetings with the three host chambers and individual industrialists. Later in the afternoon, he will address BJP workers at Mahajati Sadan. He will then attend a Gujarati Samaj programme at Science City.

dhruvM · Post by **dhruvM** » 09 Apr 2013 01:12

Dear BRfites,

I know it is not a scientific survey, but I'm just returning from a college daaru party we celebrated tonight in a bar right next to the hotel NaMo is staying in Kolkata. I'm happy to inform you that the dhimmified junta you'd expect to find in an Indian college (mostly comprising of fiercely *secular* dilli-billis and uppity urban youth), when they found out abt modi-ji.. Started yelling at the top of their voices about their wish of meeting him

, so much so that the cops in-charge of NaMo's security bandobast outside the hotel had to enter the bar and throw us out.

Winds of change are blowing... I'll hopefully try and attend in-person NaMo's address to Kolkata's business community tomorrow, and report back about mango public's response.

*hic*

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 09 Apr 2013 01:13

Modi didn't talk of aggressively privatizing PSU's. He said when he took over the PSU's were in bad shape. There were 2 choices, one locking them up as shares were down and 2nd privatizing them. After deliberations and differentiating which were socio-economic and pure commercial ones, they made a 3rd choice of vesting professionalism in those. And that worked. A very good speech. Lots of details depicting a hands on approach last 11 years. He knows the issues behind in depth. He has a no nonsense deep and holistic approach to problems. I liked his take on state missions in foreign countries. I liked his take on facilitating labor laws from concurrent to state oriented, i liked his take on facilitating land acquisition by buying an acre here and there thus bringing prices of land up in the vicinity and thus easier and fairer deals for both involved parties. The man is hands on and understands issues in depth. Does not hesitate in answering tough questions and gives extremely relevant answers. Very positive indeed.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 09 Apr 2013 01:15

harbans wrote:Modi didn't talk of aggressively privatizing PSU's. He said .....

I see, so a spot of spin by paid media to get the back up of the constituency which was responsible for deserting BJP in 2004.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 09 Apr 2013 01:34

if Modi wins Bengal, he will become catalyst for waking up Bhartamata and Bharat Atma together.
Bharat Pukare, Modi Aaa Rey!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 09 Apr 2013 01:50

kangres is desperately trying to shield soniaben from Modi.

They do not want her in Modi's direct line of fire.

she is the only Brahmastra left in their empty quiver. rahul baba has fizzled out.

Modi is too astute to not drag her in sooner or later.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 01:56

RajeshA wrote:Shri Narendra Modi addressing Network 18 Think India Dialogue on April 08, 2013
[youtube]FPvnZHxHYAw

On channeling excessive Govt. Human Resources

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 14#p848914

RamaY wrote: The government human resources (read government employees) will be split into two groups.

1. Essential support staff, that are required to support key government functions – These are the human resources that went thru specific training and are assigned to complex functions: Such as DAE, some sections of DRDO, Paramilitary, Intelligence etc.

2. Open resource pool – Everyone else will be put in this group, irrespective of their salary, cadre and current role.

The NDP will be split into the following focus areas:

1. Education
2. Healthcare
3. Social Security (includes National ID program)
4. Law and Order
5. Infrastructure – Civil
6. Infrastructure – Military
7. Agriculture & Irrigation
8. Environment
9. Public Relations

And each employee in the Open Resource Pool will be given an opportunity to join a focus-area of his/her interest. The salary/grade will remain intact, but the role may change. Any remaining positions will be made available for new employment.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 02:25

RamaY wrote:Wait till NM speaks to Women, Farmers, Govt Employees, Labor Unions etc.,

Every nationalist indian must contribute this Jagannatha Radhachakralu....

Imagine this - You contribute Rs 1Lakh to this campaign. NM becomes PM and in all his 5 years of leadership achieves just one thing - 24 hour uninterrupted quality power to all villages. Isn't it the best social project you supported, ensuring that your Rs 1lakh investment achieved uninterrupted power supply to your village? If you were to do this, it would cost you at least 50-100 times more than that.

Students - Check
Industry - Check
Women Enterprenuers - Check
Media - Check

To Do list
Farmers
Rural Women
Labor unions
Govt Employees
...

Regions to cover
Andhra Pradesh
Arunachal Pradesh
Assam
Bihar
Chhattisgarh
Goa
Gujarat - Check
Haryana
Himachal Pradesh
Jammu & Kashmir
Jharkhand
Karnataka
Kerala
Madhya Pradesh
Maharashtra
Manipur
Meghalaya
Mizoram
Nagaland
Orissa
Punjab
Rajasthan
Sikkim
Tamil Nadu
Tripura
Uttar Pradesh
Uttarakhand
West Bengal - April 8, 2013
Andaman & Nicobar Islands (1)
Chandigarh (1)
Dadra & Nagar Haveli (1)
Daman & Diu (1)
Delhi (7)
Lakshadweep (1)
Puducherry (1)

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Apr 2013 04:22

Jhujar wrote:if Modi wins Bengal, he will become catalyst for waking up Bhartamata and Bharat Atma together.
Bharat Pukare, Modi Aaa Rey!

+1 does not mean +100. If he can bring 5 seats out of 42 also that is great. We all love Modi but we should not over estimate. There are several states in India where people really like Modi but there is no election-winnable-BJP-organization. He cannot do much about it.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 04:45

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 09 Apr 2013 04:59

India Inc face-off over Rahul, Modi flares up

http://newindianexpress.com/thesundayst ... 534017.ece

A Uttar Pradesh BJP leader, requesting anonymity, said plans for Modi to address meetings at Banaras Hindu University, Lucknow University and Allahabad University are on the drawing board.Modi could soon be seen addressing students at Jawaharlal Nehru University—a Leftist bastion—invited by ABVP students who are presently running a public campaign on Modi’s governance by calling speakers to discuss different aspects of his governance. Politically, the BJP is quashing rumours that Modi wants to keep away from the Karnataka election campaign as the state is a tough bargain for the party. “He will most definitely campaign in the state,” said party general secretary Ananth Kumar. The state unit has asked Modi “to spare at least five days” and address “at least 15 meetings” that include strategic locations like Bangalore, Mysore and Shimoga. Modi has not given his consent as yet, but state BJP leaders expect his go-ahead shortly. A proposal has also been mooted at the highest echelons of the BJP for Modi to undertake a nationwide yatra to cash in on his appeal and the widespread anti-Congress sentiment across the country. Confirming this, former BJP president M Venkaiah Naidu refused to name the author of the idea, and added that the party Parliamentary Board is yet to take a final call. A final itinerary of Modi’s all-India programmes will be drawn only after the Karnataka elections are over, sources close to him said. Modi has so far been choosy about sharing the dais with other BJP leaders of stature.

Rahul is also getting ready to put up an appearance before Harvard University students—his next big show. A Europe tour is also being planned, the dates of which are being worked out in great secrecy. Party sources say this is Rahul’s answer to equalise the effect of diplomatic delegations landing at Modi’s doorstep, in Gujarat.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 09 Apr 2013 05:16

^^^^

A political analyst admitted, “You can’t talk poverty to the poor. For that you need an urban audience.” Which is what Rahul plans to woo in the next few months—get maximum coverage by addressing up-market captive audiences. Rahul is also getting ready to put up an appearance before Harvard University students—his next big show. A Europe tour is also being planned, the dates of which are being worked out in great secrecy. Party sources say this is Rahul’s answer to equalise the effect of diplomatic delegations landing at Modi’s doorstep, in Gujarat.

Incredible, mind is spinning.

votes are in India but want to entice the west. something is wrong here.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 05:54

^^I was thinking the exact same thing. The problem for him is he has no takers in India so he has to go abroad. Modi on the other hand is blitzing through different states and garnering more support so it's only natural that momentum will increase. I hope Modi shreds up this stupid constitution and helps draft a new one based on duties rather than rights and puts an end to all this secular socialist mumbo jumbo.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 09 Apr 2013 07:04

Sanku wrote:
disha wrote: The rest is posturing. So IMO LKA is not wrong in saying that a. He is proud of the Ayodhya movement. It brought to light the fact that there indeed was a glorious temple under the defunct 'masjid'. It also showed the politicking happening with India's history. b. He is indeed sad, it could be because of either point 3 above or point 1-3 above.
Disha ji, I agree. There is also a far more prosaic reason:

The official statement of the ENTIRE BJP/VHP top brass including the PURE variety in SUPREME COURT OF INDIA is that --

they are very sorry that the Babri structure fell they were not expecting that, it was a shock. Things went beyond their control.

Why is that?

Because Supreme court allowed a limited Kar Seva under express undertaking by people like Advani and ABV that this was merely a symbolic puja and shilanyas and nothing would be distrubed.'

If Advani et al say anything else -- the entire BJP/VHP/RSS would be behind bars before you can say "jai shri ram". You can kiss Modi, SSC and entire non congress option good bye for next 60 years.

This would be redux of what happened after N Godse.
Hindus using their head once in a while and not behaving like having to relive the legacy of heros of yore is not a bad thing.

The friends of BJP who express their support so loudly seem to be unaware of some basic facts. Where is the hit head on the wall icon.

Sanku saar,
did advani had to say that he cried in a corner when babri was demolished? He could have kept quite if he wanted to. Then why did he say what he said? Not because of court or any such thing. He said to try for an image make-over: from hindutva to 'secularism'. He thought he was being too clever when he did that. And he was given moh tod jawab by the BJP core voters in that elections. In a way, his position became like a dhobi ka ...

Now why is he again talking about 'pride in ayodhya movement'? Because, Modi is going with development and has so far avoided the overt hindutva. So, Advani is trying to again position himself as hindutva icon.

Right now the biggest hurdle in Modi's path to throne is not MSM or mainos. They have already lost. Now, they are pinning their hopes on Advani. Advani has become the last the wall of defence for them. And ironically, Advani is trying to use hindutva to do his job. And if in the process of trying to neutralize Advani, Modi takes up overt hindutva, then MSM and mainos think they can get back into the game. They are working in cahoots...

Thats my impression...

Arjun wrote:
johneeG wrote:I know of people who voted to congress just to teach a lesson to BJP not to give up on Hindutva.
The only set of folks with even lower IQ than the Dynasty and its chelas must be the Hindutvavadis who voted Congress to teach a 'lesson' to BJP ! Did they consider that the Congress would teach them a lesson 100x times more forceful than the one they 'taught' the BJP?

Offline, I argued against such policy of voting out BJP. VijayK saar has given a good explanation of how people by default go with castes but will rally with some group/person when he really takes up hindutva, but the same people will leave if that group/person is perceived as dishonest or opportunist(i.e. only using hindutva as a vote catching policy but not delivering anything on it).

But, I think that policy is not completely without merit. I'll explain by an analogy. Lets say a person lives in a mohalla near red-light area. That person has a girl-friend or wife. Now, this person will not be unduly bothered by the behaviour of a prostitute. But, if his girl-friend or wife were to be imitating the prostitute's behaviour, he would be alarmed. And will immediately take measures to convey his displeasure in the strongest terms. One can argue that his girl-friend or wife is still better than the prostitute anyday, then why is he getting alarmed. He is getting alarmed because he does not want her to proceed in that path. So, he wants to nip such attitude in the bud.

The same is true of political parties and their core voters. Voters have no way of showing their displeasure but to vote to someone else. That is the only weapon in their hand. So, when BJP is perceived as imitating the kongis, their core voters were miffed and alarmed.

The fall of advani and rise of modi is clear indication by the voters(particularly the core voters of BJP) about what they want from BJP. If BJP ignores these clear indications, then they cannot blame the voters. They will have to blame themselves(i.e. leaders).

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Everyone has a shelf-life. After a period, it expires or becomes spoiled. Advani was good in 90s. He should have got his opportunity(of PM-ship) then. He could not. But, after 15 years, his presence is only negative for BJP and desh.

The food that nourished two days ago, if you eat the same food today, it will be a poison. The same is true of certain leaders and ideologies. Advani nourished hindutva and BJP in 90s. Today, he is harming it.

Infact, if Modi does not get his chance now, then he too may become a negative force like Advani a decade later. So, it is important that Modi gets his chance now.
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vijayk wrote:
RoyG wrote:Ramachandran Guha drone at his best. On a more important note...Karan should lose the bow tie. He looks ridiculous.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/383779/bet ... -guha.html
Every time PAPPU comes out and ridiculed, the CON DIEnasty dogs get on to TV to proclaim neither is worthy of PM.

That seems to be the strategy of 'buddhijeevis'. They know that pappu has failed. So, now they are trying to club both pappu and modi into the same bracket and dismiss them both.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Apr 2013 07:24

the middle class and poor in india dont give a rats behind about speeches in harvard or europe.
I dont know which constituency of voters he wants to attract....the only constituency which would be impressed is already with the INC.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 09 Apr 2013 07:26

rohitvats wrote:
And would you believe if I tell you that first choice of IAF was in fact Viggen?

I know that the first choice was the Viggen. It was not bought cause the Yanks put sanctions on it cause of some US made components. The point that I am making is that the INC can easily get away pointing out that the IAF did not buy the Viggen. So the allegations have not credibility.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 09 Apr 2013 07:30

R_Kumar wrote:Watch this ndtv video. They tried so hard unsuccessfully to force their biased agenda.

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/w ... o-featured

HA HA HA HA

The MIM (Moron in the middle)
The idiot on the left even after his BS question, the 3 girls flat out reject his comments. Even then he calls it mixed response
The puke on the right says "After calling 50 cr GF, what is your response to his speech?".

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 09 Apr 2013 07:35

^Utterly disgusting these worms. I am heartened to see Mr. Modi's continued disgust, hostility and aggression towards these media wh0res. He will not forget or forgive. Real painful times ahead for this fifth-columnists when he comes to power. Expect large scale exodus of these vermin (at least the ones on the top).

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 07:52

Arun Menon wrote:^Utterly disgusting these worms. I am heartened to see Mr. Modi's continued disgust, hostility and aggression towards these media wh0res. He will not forget or forgive. Real painful times ahead for this fifth-columnists when he comes to power. Expect large scale exodus of these vermin (at least the ones on the top).

I've been saying this and I'm sure most BRFites feel the same way. These guys should be thrown into Tihar. They are dangerous.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Apr 2013 07:55

Cong succeeded in polarising Muslims in UP in 2009 and 2012, as a master strategist what did he do?

Jaitley cautions BJP against Congress ploy to polarise minority votes

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/jaitl ... s/1099583/

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 09 Apr 2013 08:04

Thatcher to Modi: Steering the economic discourse to the right

You can now clearly see which way the wind is blowing. But this is just the beginning

disha · Post by **disha** » 09 Apr 2013 08:21

Pratyush wrote:
rohitvats wrote:
And would you believe if I tell you that first choice of IAF was in fact Viggen?

I know that the first choice was the Viggen. It was not bought cause the Yanks put sanctions on it cause of some US made components. The point that I am making is that the INC can easily get away pointing out that the IAF did not buy the Viggen. So the allegations have not credibility.

The question is not about buying Viggen or not. The question is about conflict of interest. Just 30 years after independence, son of a PM and leader of nation is representing a foreign arms exporter and it is not disclosed!

And even more importantly, how much more is hidden? Of course, people will give a flimsy reason that Viggen was not bought and hence a non-issue. What would be the situation if Viggen was indeed bought? Given the Bofors scandal, it is imperative to think that how much money would have or exchanged hands.

In that case is Sonia a foreign hand?

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 09 Apr 2013 08:26

found in FB...bwahahha