AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 27 Feb 2014 18:36

Mafia queen losing her power. Will the chamchas continue to be with her after power is lost??? Already jagadambika Paul left for BJP. Paswan is joining NDA. Will KCR merge with mafia in these conditions??? I am not so sure.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 27 Feb 2014 22:46

Narayana Rao wrote:Incidentally BJP could not win even a single district nor even a good amount of seats in few punchaith seats.

Interesting spelling. Is it from angrez-raj times? A keeper for my list.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Feb 2014 00:02

kmkraoind wrote:ANI ‏@ANI_news: Happy to announce that Vijayshanti ji who fought so hard for Telangana has decided to join Congress: Digvijaya Singh pic.twitter.com/JeZPlZzB1D

It seems Congress is preparing for solo fight in T. Probably, game of money bags has started. KCR has to keep his flock together, and keep strict watch on the appointed resident commissioner (Kesava Rao) by her majesty.

This was long decided when TRS dismissed her from the party. Nothing to do with latest stories. Congress going solo and TRS going solo will be good for TDP (not dead in all T-districts). I wouldn't write off TDP if there is a multi-cornered contest.

AP-BJP is anyway the most foolish entity that you cannot get anywhere.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 28 Feb 2014 00:19

Muppalla wrote:
kmkraoind wrote:ANI ‏@ANI_news: Happy to announce that Vijayshanti ji who fought so hard for Telangana has decided to join Congress: Digvijaya Singh pic.twitter.com/JeZPlZzB1D

It seems Congress is preparing for solo fight in T. Probably, game of money bags has started. KCR has to keep his flock together, and keep strict watch on the appointed resident commissioner (Kesava Rao) by her majesty.
This was long decided when TRS dismissed her from the party. Nothing to do with latest stories. Congress going solo and TRS going solo will be good for TDP (not dead in all T-districts). I wouldn't write off TDP if there is a multi-cornered contest.

AP-BJP is anyway the most foolish entity that you cannot get anywhere.

I think Kesava Rao and G. Vinod Kumar (son of G. Venkatswamy) are just Congress trojans to keep tabs on KCR and TRS. But splitting up of TRS will depend upon perceived Congress success at GE-2014. If they sense, Congress decimation, they might keep mum. But if they see a fighting chance, they might attempt a split in TRS.

Moreover, Congress is taking precautions not to provoke KCR and KCR is to waiting for some T. Cong leaders to utter some gibberish on him, so that he can declare a war on Cong.

Only thing I cannot comprehend is did what extent Congress holds dirty information on KCR and how much KCR will succumb to CBI pressure.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Feb 2014 00:48

He will say go ahead and publish.

Once Congress is defeated in General Elections it will be open season on all lifafa policewalas.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 28 Feb 2014 02:19

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 28 Feb 2014 02:21

translation please, though I can guess what is being said...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Feb 2014 02:30

Rony!!!!

a_bharat · Post by **a_bharat** » 28 Feb 2014 06:57

fanne wrote:translation please, though I can guess what is being said...

Before Bifurcation
KCR: Madam, I'll prostrate before you. Trust me. If you want I will merge my party (in cong)
Sonia: We'll see

After Bifurcation
Sonia: Trusting you, I split the state haphazardly. Now please merge your party.
KCR: We say lots of things. Don't you know that believing KCR is like going to grave?

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 28 Feb 2014 08:01

LJP, however, is not the only potential ally of Congress which is drifting away. The Telangana Rashtra Samithi denied that it had agreed to a merger with Congress, contrary to AICC general secretary Digvijaya Singh's claims. There too, the generation-next seems to be feeling the Modi effect.

TRS chief K Chandrashekhara Rao's daughter K Kavitha, who heads the cultural wing of the party and prompting its other prominent women leader Vijayshanthi to join Congress on Thursday, has also not been found disinclined to BJP. TRS, which is in alliance talks with Congress, had been offered a deputy chief ministership and a Rajya Sabha berth for KCR's son KT Rama Rao. Kavita, however, met with senior BJP leaders, and KCR himself met party president Rajnath Singh who told him that an alliance with the BJP would work in TRS' favour.

"The logic was that the BJP was a fledgling outfit in Telangana, and that TRS would have an upper hand in an alliance there," said a top BJP source. This logic appeared sound to generation-next in the TRS, who also counted on the Modi wave to help them. An anxious Digvijaya had to rush to Hyderabad when he got wind of the offer and managed to persuade KCR to stay put.

Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 28 Feb 2014 08:25

TRS is moving towards BJP and is in serious discussions with BJP leadership. The Kangress move of accepting Arvind reddy and Vijayashanthi is going to backfire big time. Kangress was offering Deputy CM to TRS, whereas KCR always wanted CM post. An alliance with BJP makes more sense for TRS as it will retain both CM and deputy CM posts and majority of MLA seats.

http://deccan-journal.com/content/trs-moves-towards-bjp

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Feb 2014 08:30

KCR leading cong worthies by he nose round the garden path is not an unseemly sight by any means. Only.

I still wait for the EC to formally issue poll notices and for the model code of conduct to come into force. The grip of the termites on the intel and coercive law enforcement apparatus will visibly weaken then zimbly coz of the self-preservation instinct that rules supreme amongst the dilli babucracy.

After that, dynasty's bargaining power will plunge with all and sundry. NM or amit shah merely choosing to do chai-biskoot even over the phone will send shivers, mistrust and FUD soaring in the mafia camp. All in all, good good only.

I just hope the desperation doesn't lead to "sudden removal" of root cause attempts i.e. attempts on the life of India's biggest hope right now. Too often too many have been suddenly removed who were inconvenient to mafia, some say...

wasu · Post by **wasu** » 28 Feb 2014 09:42

http://www.apherald.com/Politics/ViewAr ... -created-/

Though it is true that KCR and his party fought for three years to get the separate Telangana state but it is also clear that if Sonia Gandhi and UPA government didn’t want to give in, this would never have happened. So why is Telangana created then?

There seem to be few deeper darker reasons behind this. Some of them say Andhra Pradesh has emerged to be the strongest state in entire India when it comes to playing a key role in national level politics. This is due to the number of MP seats from this state. On the other hand, the rate at which Andhra Pradesh was growing prior to Telangana turmoil, it could have easily overtaken states like Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and this is something Chidambaram and Veerappa Moily were not happy to see.

Now, with Andhra Pradesh broken into two pieces both sides of the state have no choice but to listen to Delhi for everything. Even they cannot dictate terms at national level politics and even growth prospects in terms of economic statistics will come down.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 28 Feb 2014 10:52

KT Rama Rao seriously doesn't like the idea of merging with INC. he does not want to become a slave to dynasty. BUT...wishes and likes are not supreme. there are other things which play a role. Kavitha has her own compulsions. equations in Telangana will not be stable in the next 5 years.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 28 Feb 2014 12:47

AP voting patterns were primarily reason for placing UPA in centre for the last years.

It is time voters woke up to the consequences at the national level of their voting for candidates based on local issues.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Feb 2014 15:46

Well, NM should visit koasta-seema and explain to its people the how and why of the division. Doesn't matter if no one shows up to hear him. Courage lies in going where he may not be a runaway hit, after all. Will earn him some modicum of respect that his party has managed to lose yet again.

Modi calls Sonia '10 numbari' Gandhi, says Congress botched up Andhra bifurcation

BJP's PM candidate Narendra Modi on Friday criticised Congress chief Sonia Gandhi for failing to carve out Telangana without mass unrest in Andhra Pradesh, saying her party has "committed the sin of killing the mother during childbirth".

Emotive words. But grandstanding aur understanding mein farak hai, saar. Demonstrate that you've the latter, mere words from afar won't cut it.

Calling Sonia Gandhi a "10 numbari Gandhi' (referring to her address 10, Janpath, in New Delhi), Modi, at a rally in Gulbarga in Karnataka, said, "Look at what they did to Andhra Pradesh. We (BJP) also want that Telangana be created, that Seemandhra prospers. But the Congress is a doctor who helps give birth to a child but kills the mother. Telugu pride is like a mother. They have committed the sin of killing the mother. We wanted to save the mother as well as the child."

Maintaining that the Congress had left Seemandhra as an orphan, Modi said, "I will go to Seemandhra and will make all efforts to heal its wounds."

Referring to India's first Deputy Prime Minister Sardar Patel's contributions, he said, "The country became independent in 1947. But Gulbarga did not become independent. It was due to Sardar Patel who made the Nizam of Hyderabad bow down that Gulbarga became independent. Had Patel not been there, you would have had to take Pakistan's visa to go to Hyderabad and Gulbarga."

He promised to take the country "from stagnancy to buoyancy" and said he "will not spend one moment for myself".

Hmmm. We'll see. Credibility is about the only thing that separates you from everybody else, NM garu. We'll see.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 28 Feb 2014 17:10

Hari Seldon ji,

There is a personal score for NaMo to settle in Seemandhra. When BJP was singing NaMo tune, Sushma Swaraj dared to play along with Congress and tried to screw NaMo's good name in Seemandhra, and sabotage his plans and efforts there.

So whereas in rest of India, there is steady gungaan of NaMo namah, only Seemandhra is bucking the trend. Even J&K is turning to NaMo. So Seemandhra is in that sense special - as the only place where animosity towards NaMo may have slightly increased.

The whole country as such may be part of India 272+ Project, but Seemandhra is additionally a separate project for NaMo. He will do what is necessary to make Seemandhra get the curve.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Feb 2014 20:13

BJP moves to join with TRS will further anger people in residual AP areas. Let KCR join mafia so that he can bury with them. Mafia and TRS fighting with give greater chance to any BJP plus TDP group having hidden agreement. If BJP is going to bring in people like KCR, LJP and other gangs which are anti indics till recently is bit dangerous and will expose BJP to backstabbing.

NM/BJP as long as it does things like this will never have support in residual AP.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Feb 2014 20:33

Based on all calculations, I really doubt if TRS can go with BJP. The Muslims and dalits are mostly with congress in Telangana. He going with BJP will make him lose a chunk of votes that comes to him automatically. Even though TDP may not win, it will still get the seemandhra voters in T region and also certain seats like Khammam districts etc. The TDP cadre and its OBC nature is still in tact.

I think he is doing a psyops to get maximum mileage. BJP may grow but not immediately. Time is too short to try differently for political parties.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 28 Feb 2014 21:33

I think there will be little support for mafia after 2014 if BJP is in power. All the people who are presently mafia B teams like TRS, Jagan are going to side with NDA for power, court cases etc. So the entire plan of mafia a big failure as of now.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 28 Feb 2014 22:38

INC-TRS seem to be recycling same 2009 strategy.

It is to encourage TRS to talk to BJP. BJP salivates and doesn't go with any other alliances. They may give some seats to BJP to win but at last moment they sell most of the seats to Congress by putting weak candidates. This way non-congress (BJP, TDP) combination gets less number of seats than potentially they could in straight fight between Congress vs non-Congress.

Both INC-TRS and INC-PRP used these tactics. T-BJP seems to be made up of bunch idiots and might take that offer.

VenkataS · Post by **VenkataS** » 28 Feb 2014 23:52

Andhra Pradesh to be under President’s rule; sops announced for Seemandhra

The sources also said that the revenue generated from Hyderabad will go to Telangana only as separate sops, like a special category status for five years and tax incentives for 10 years, have been extended to Seemandhra region.

Shafting of coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema regions is now complete.

VenkataS · Post by **VenkataS** » 28 Feb 2014 23:54

Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema voters should realize that a vote for Jagan is a vote for Congress at the center. If they do not want to reward congress for this division then do not vote for Jagan.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Mar 2014 01:07

CBN calling termite queeen as godse.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 01 Mar 2014 01:23

krisna wrote:CBN calling termite queeen as godse.

He is insulting Godse by comparing him to Sonia.Godse was a patriot

bhavani · Post by **bhavani** » 01 Mar 2014 03:43

Now both BJP and Congress have again realized that Andhra still has 25 MP seats. Modi and Sonia Gandhi are coming to Seemandhra in a span of 15 days. But Sonia's rallies are not confirmed, she actually seems to be fearing a backlash

http://deccan-journal.com/content/naren ... seemandhra

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Mar 2014 04:07

Cong, TRS may go alone in elections

The Congress and Telangana Rashtra Samithi may contest independently in the ensuing elections and may go for a post-poll alliance to form government in Telangana state, it is being predicted.

The top leadership of both the parties are of the opinion that having a pre-poll alliance would be suicidal for them despite the creation of Telangana. The option for a merger between the TRS and Congress would be kept open after the polls and depending on the situation it would acted upon.
Meanwhile, sources said that TRS president K. Chandrasekhar Rao demanded 80 Assembly and six Lok Sabha seats as part of a seat-sharing plan under a pre-poll alliance, which the Congress did not agree to. Sources said that at the most the TRS may agree for 65 Assembly seats which the Congress may not allot in the present situation. A senior Congress leader said that their “party top leadership was of the opinion that those Congress leaders deprived of tickets will join the TDP or BJP in Telangana during the elections if they allot more number of seats to the TRS.” The TRS top leadership is not interested in the party’s merger with the Congress as there are a large number of ticket aspirants and accommodating them would be difficult in the event of a merger.

Both Congress and TRS leaders do not want to create a political vacuum in Telangana for the TDP and BJP to seize upon. However, sources said an understanding might be reached between the Congress and TRS as far as fielding candidates is concerned.

For example, the Congress and the TRS will field dummy candidates against TRS MLA K. Tarakarama Rao in Sirsilla in Karimnagar and former PCC president D. Srinivas in Nizamabad, respectively.

It is said that KCR had planned a massive welcome for himself on his arrival to Hyderabad from Delhi to show his strength to the Congress high command and improve his bargaining powers if required.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 01 Mar 2014 04:18

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Mar 2014 04:48

TDP Still Hopeful of Alliance with Narendra Modi

Is the TDP still looking for an alliance with the BJP, notwithstanding the immediate attack its leaders launched against the saffron party after the passage of the T bill? The answer appears to be Yes.

With the division of State slowly sinking in the minds of people and the focus shifting to development, TDP leaders seem to be of the view that no serious damage could occur even if it aligned with the BJP in the residuary State. In Telangana, of course, it will be a formidable combination depending on how the Congress-TRS equation plays out.

“The BJP has, to some extent, succeeded in sending out a message to the people of Seemandhra that it was because of its pressure that the UPA government came up with a host of incentives for the residuary State. Plus, the positive sentiment towards Narendra Modi, in any case, exists,” a TDP leader said. At the same time, he said both the parties will for now adopt a wait and watch game and stitch a deal only closer to the elections. Some surveys the TDP conducted post-bifurcation did not show any drop in the support for Modi despite the BJP backing State division.

The BJP, on its part, is planning to cash in on its fight for justice to Seemandhra and Modi magic, explaining how a vote for the Gujarat strongman will fuel growth. Even as Venkaiah Naidu is already taking forward this message in private and public meetings, the BJP is planning a series of meetings that would be addressed by Modi during March.

Congress Minister TG Venkatesh, who was among those who joined the TDP, dropped hints of the unfolding scenario. “The BJP is going to form government. People know TDP and its chief Naidu are capable of extracting support from the Centre for development of Seemandhra,” he said.

The strategy of all parties for this state(s) will go to wire.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Mar 2014 08:04

I dont get the surprise. AP still believes in Modi.

Modi will get elected and only idiots will support a losing party

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 01 Mar 2014 08:26

Not sure whether he said it. But it reflects TDP supporters mindset that Modi successfully implemented CBN vision.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 01 Mar 2014 08:32

^^^
But BJP behavior can't be overshadowed as backstabbing is still in voters mind.

INC-TRS-YSRC nexus still are trying to dup so BJP-TDP alliance doesn't happen so they can sweep T.

It is tight rope to have alliance at on place and not at the other place.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 01 Mar 2014 14:13

ShyamSP wrote:^^^
But BJP behavior can't be overshadowed as backstabbing is still in voters mind.
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No in AP associates BJP with the division of state, well may be 2-3% -- all the non stop piling on BJP on this thread is only achieving the effect of keeping the thread in wonder land and completely dissociated with reality.

BJP did perfectly the right thing with close coordination between its leaders -- and their stand will give them best electoral results in 2014, as well enable pre/post poll alliance with TRS and/or TDP.

I see this as win-win for BJP politically

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 01 Mar 2014 18:29

One leader (KCR) is known for his expletive ridden rants against his opponents while another leader’s (Jagan) owned media channel and newspaper indulges in self-boasting news coverage that can kill the patience of a tortoise and slinging mud on opponents.But what’s notable is that they never utter a word against each other! Is there a internal secret understanding between the two ?

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 01 Mar 2014 20:03

Narayana Rao wrote:BJP moves to join with TRS will further anger people in residual AP areas. Let KCR join mafia so that he can bury with them. Mafia and TRS fighting with give greater chance to any BJP plus TDP group having hidden agreement. If BJP is going to bring in people like KCR, LJP and other gangs which are anti indics till recently is bit dangerous and will expose BJP to backstabbing.

NM/BJP as long as it does things like this will never have support in residual AP.

why should TRS join INC and make your fantasies true? in this round, TRS will definitely go with INC, that's for sure. but what happens in future is anyone's guess at this point. INC will not be satisfied with TRS merely agreeing to a coalition. this tug of war between any ambitions that KTR/KCR might have vs INC's intentions, will present interesting opportunities in the next 5 years.

meanwhile, give some time for MIM to make some nakhras as well. they have their own agenda. let's see how the complex interactions between INC-TRS-MIM develop. MIM, if it is seen as overtly going with INC while pressuring TRS, will have its own consequences. if INC abandons smooth talk and decides to "rigorously" pursue the TRS, that is also better. these things should be overt. that helps the people see.

in the end, I have no doubt that TRS is a transient entity which does not have much future beyond 2020'ish. but in that short time, if INC is forced bring coercive intent overtly against them, in alliance with MIM, it would be better.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 01 Mar 2014 20:13

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 01 Mar 2014 20:16

At least NM thinking consistently as he already identified CBN as a person who can speak with other parties and bring them into NDA. With hard work BJP may establish itself in entire Telugu lands now with mafia significantly weak now.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 01 Mar 2014 21:41

Yep. Both Naidu and Modi are development gurus with a vision. Wish both get chance together. They can transform AP and India.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 01 Mar 2014 22:19

Sanku wrote:
ShyamSP wrote:^^^
But BJP behavior can't be overshadowed as backstabbing is still in voters mind.
.
No in AP associates BJP with the division of state, well may be 2-3% -- all the non stop piling on BJP on this thread is only achieving the effect of keeping the thread in wonder land and completely dissociated with reality.

BJP did perfectly the right thing with close coordination between its leaders -- and their stand will give them best electoral results in 2014, as well enable pre/post poll alliance with TRS and/or TDP.

I see this as win-win for BJP politically

Splitting recklessly to get political advantage is nauseating.

I gather that you're BJP-bot. There are more things and issues to analyze beyond BJP.

In 2009, BJP lost deposits in most of AP. They may get a few MLA seats and may be 1 MPs. So if that is the achievement BJP wants well and good.

In Seemandhra Congress is goner from some 40% to 10% and BJP support might be going from 2% to 0.1%. * In AP, any support to Namo is not for BJP and that support is meant to be coming via TDP and there is no voting advantage from some people like you.

* numbers are to make a point and not literally.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 02 Mar 2014 00:26

Shyam, recent press reports do call your judgement on BJP to question.

If SA voters were against BJP, why would CBN want to ally with BJP again, looks like they are inching towards an alliance in SA.

Secondly, if BJP folks lost deposit in AP in 2009 and YSR was returned with thumping majority by SA voters, where is the question of betrayal by BJP. It the YSR clan in Congress that has betrayed the SA voters as they were the ones to be elected in 2009.

This sordid episode should be taken as a lesson for LS elections over the country where people for national elections based on taluk level promises.