AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 06 Mar 2014 05:29

Why TRS snubbed Congress, flirted with BJP

But KCR is angered by the Congress on two counts: 1. The Congress did not take the initiative to bring him to a negotiation table to strike a deal, as it construed the merger of the TRS would be obvious and automatic. 2. The Congress leaders of Telangana cornered him and demanded he merge TRS with their own party. The breach of an unwritten protocol by the Congress at all levels turned out to be a bitter pill which KCR and his followers refused to swallow, even grudgingly.

Besides, a merger with a national party that has huge presence in the region would shut the door for many things, many leaders and many opportunities for the TRS. If TRS leaders have to forgo their seats and make compromises under Congress pressure, some of them might leave the party and join other political hawks waiting to swoop down on Telangana.

By creating a committee under TRS general secretary K Keshav Rao and declaring that whichever national party wants to ally with them should approach this committee first, KCR tried to give an impression that he has an upper hand on the BJP and Congress in the region. But the Congress doesn’t seem willing to bend backwards for an alliance with the TRS. Senior Congress leader Shabbir Ali quickly retorted that KCR was in no way responsible for the formation of a separate Telangana. He recalled that KCR had never offered any amendment to the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2013 during its debate in the Parliament, even as Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimeen MP Asaduddi Owaisi came up with a few amendments. Shabbir sought to know as to why KCR didn’t raise any of the objections he talked about on Monday night during the Parliament debate. KCR’s sarcastic remark at a news conference: “Who had the people felicitated for achieving Independence to India? Had they feted Gandhi, Nehru and Patel or had they honoured Queen Elizabeth for declaring Independence to India,” too angered the Congress leaders. Though KCR apparently pulled the plug and wanted to go it alone, he raised the bar as he feels his bargaining power soared. Any national party would have to play a second fiddle to him in the region. Or, at least, that is what he thinks. But the wacky ways of the Telangana crusader did not surprise anybody.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Mar 2014 05:42

He also sees the big picture. Its not Congress in Delhi in next five years. So he needs to hedge.

interesting comments from Shabbir Ali. He praises MIM to TRS!

Its was King George VI in 1947. Elizabeth became Queen in 1952. But he makes his point and wounds Congress.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Mar 2014 05:48

Intirgued by T Kiran bringing up Madhu Yaski Goud I googled for his data. Here is a wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhu_Goud_Yaskhi

Looks like he still has law offices in US.

Does that mean he has green card at minimum?

And how is he on the Defence Sub-Committee in the Lok Sabha!

TKiran · Post by **TKiran** » 06 Mar 2014 08:05

ramana wrote:Intirgued by T Kiran bringing up Madhu Yaski Goud I googled for his data. Here is a wiki page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhu_Goud_Yaskhi

Looks like he still has law offices in US.

Does that mean he has green card at minimum?

And how is he on the Defence Sub-Committee in the Lok Sabha!

Ramana garu,
A student till 1989 and LS MP in 2004 is itself very interesting. Law offices in Atlanta and New York, thats a quite a big acheivement in 5 years. Who's his god father, what's his doctor wife's background could lead to some more 'theegha laagithe donka kaduluthundi'

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Mar 2014 08:28

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Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 06 Mar 2014 09:25

This is what I was telling for last one year, how difficult the survival would be for the SA state for the next 10 years. They will be in severe debt, and the chances are pretty high they will become a bimaru state under the wait of unbearable debt.

It’s tough for new CM to develop Andhra Pradesh

It looks like tough times are ahead for the new government in the residuary state. The haste with which both the Congress and the BJP have passed the AP Reorganisation Bill, without incorporating any of the amendments proposed by the BJP, leaves Seemandhra in the lurch. It will be an arduous task for the government to find physical and financial resources to create a new state capital that would include not just the Legislature, Secretariat, High Court, HODs, Central establishments, but also residential accommodation for MLAs, ministers, judges and government employees. It also needs connectivity and other social infrastructure. Similarly, the government has to incur a huge expenditure for building social, economic, industrial and IT infrastructure from scratch in other parts of Seemandhra.

Apart from financial resources, another major problem will be finding adequate land for creating capital. Although, the Bill states that the Centre will list about one lakh acres from the reserve forest area, it is not easy in practice. Large tracts of land are required to build airports and sea ports. There is no clarity in the Bill as to who will bear this expenditure which will run into crores. Seemandhra government cannot be expected to fund this expenditure at a time when there is bound to be a huge revenue deficit in the state beginning with `15,000 crore in the first year itself.

There is no clarity as to who will fund the revenue deficit from second year onwards and if this is not funded by the Centre, Seemandhra will face a grave situation, affecting the entire growth prospects and consequently employment opportunities. There will also be a big question mark on the fate of a large number of ongoing irrigation and other projects.

The other major problem is regarding sharing of loan liability. From the Bill, it is clear that loans will be apportioned between Telangana and Andhra in proportion of population. This means that while Andhra gets 60 per cent of the liabilities, it gets only 40 per cent of the present revenues. How will it repay these loans? The PM, of course, made several promises for the benefit of Seemandhra during the debate on the Bill. The moot point is whether there is legal tenability to PM’s assurances, particularly when they do not form a part of the Bill.Will the next government be bound by the assurances given by a Central government, which is on its way out? We have all seen how nothing has happened so far in the Mannavaram project despite it being announced by the PM five years ago.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 06 Mar 2014 16:47

any truth to this?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Mar 2014 16:54

Published on Mar 06, 2014
By TS Sudhir
Chandrababu Naidu set to return to NDA fold: India Today

Hyderabad: Decks have been cleared for Chandrababu Naidu to return to the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance (NDA) after a 10-year gap.

Naidu, whose Telugu Desam Party (TDP) gave outside support to the Atal Bihari Vajpayee-led NDA government, wants to be on the right side of Narendra Modi as the BJP makes a desperate bid to return to power after warming Opposition benches for two terms.

After Ram Vilas Paswan, Naidu will be the second former NDA ally to make up with the BJP.

Naidu, who blamed the BJP for his loss in the 2004 elections, has to win the 2014 elections to stay politically relevant. But there is a catch.

Thanks to his efforts to stall the formation of Telangana, his popularity ratings have dipped in the new state while in Seemandhra, the BJP is seen as a party that supported the division of Andhra Pradesh.

Naidu's hope is that the pro-development pitch will ride over other sentiments and work for the alliance.

"In public mind, Modi is for development. He says he developed Gujarat and now he will develop India. Naidu is also known for development of Andhra Pradesh. Today people may be resistant but tomorrow, they will realise development is important. So if we go with Modi as PM and Naidu as CM message, both will gain," TDP vice-president K. Rammohan Rao said.

But while Naidu is keen to do business with the BJP, especially in Telangana, state unit leaders and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) in particular are not too keen on an alliance with the TDP in Telangana because of Naidu's stand on statehood.

The BJP-TDP alliance is likely to be announced any time after March 10.

"In Telangana, the TDP has lost its base and in coastal areas, it is close to the YSR Congress in terms of strength. There, the BJP's alliance with the TDP will be beneficial," BJP's National Executive member N. Ramchandra Rao said.

Meanwhile, the Congress, which is seen as a sinking ship in Seemandhra, has lost former union minister of state and Purandareswari. The Visakhapatnam MP is set to join the BJP.

Sources indicate that a couple of other Congress MPs are also negotiating with the BJP.

Modi will also take comfort in the fact that post Lok Sabha elections, both K. Chandrasekhar Rao and Jaganmohan Reddy will be willing to join hands with the NDA should it fall short of the 272 mark.

Vamsi.R · Post by **Vamsi.R** » 06 Mar 2014 17:38

vivek.rao wrote:

any truth to this?

Rumor is ,he will announce his political plans this sunday.. lets see.
He wont achieve much going alone.he has to join either TDP or BJP

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Mar 2014 17:56

Pawan Kalyan is brother of Chiranjeevi.

In his private life, he has been hopping from one woman to another, leaving even the mother of his children for other women. Is that relevant? I'll leave it to others to decide.

Other than that he is an actor. Many actors find their way into politics. But other than that they are popular due to films, what is there which endears them to us? Are they better leaders? Are they better administrators? Usually they are spoiled brats and need decades in politics to mellow down, i.e. if they ever do! More importantly with Chiranjeevi as brother, can BJP really trust Pawan Kalyan?

BJP should of course take in Purandeswari, but not Pawan Kalyan!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Mar 2014 18:48

kiran kumar reddy has floated his own party.

since he left the INC, supporting UPA might not be possible..could support NDA from outside maybe.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Mar 2014 18:51

Purandeshwari and husband are to join BJP per India Today.

KKR files case against division in Supreme Court.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 06 Mar 2014 19:33

TKiran wrote: Sonia was not dignosed for Cancer , she went to US to collect money bags for splitting AP, which could be used to form 3rd Front Govt. At center and break the alliance in 2-3 years and then resurrect shehzada as PM and get him married. Everything is going according to plan. She was determined to break AP, only after her visit to US. There was a report that Madhu Yashki told to someone to wait till she returns, so that there will be announcement for Telangana, when a lot of folks were trying to abandon the ship and jump to other parties, on the Telangana side.

SG's checkmate will come with the US court summons with regard to 1984 riots, she's been trying to get that withdrawn without much success. The Amirkhans are one (or two) up at all times, she may very well be fed to the wolves by the next dispensation in Dilli.

Madhu Yashki & the Owaisis will be left high & dry if the NGO cottage industry in India comes under the microscope.

Need to look into Carpatho-Ukraine & current Moldovian experiment to understand Telengana. USA has learnt a few lessons from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its ability to keep the Bolsheviks, Ukranians & the later Soviets off-balance till WW1 happened, similar experiment being repeated a century later in India.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 06 Mar 2014 20:11

> Pawan Kalyan to float new party

This is nothing but mini-PRP. Kapus of Godavari are moving into TDP - for example Ganta Srinivas Rao, Thota Trimurthulu, etc. To prevent it as Chiru himself can't fool again, INC may be taking this route as his brother has some "credibility" with recent hits in movies.

> KKR to float new party

non-YSR reddies are moving to TDP - for example, JC Diwakar Reddy, DL Ravindra Reddy, Erasu Pratap reddy, Shilpa Mohan Reddy etc. Again this is to checkmate that and prevent TDP strengthening. This is also nothing but mini-PRP Reddy version.

> KKR to file court case on bifurcation

"Dongalu padda aaru nellaki Kukkarlu moragatamu" (Dogs barking 6 months after thieves did burglary)

This is to get credibility to his part that he is Samaikyandhra warrior. In his capacity as CM he could have filed SC court case and make it a State-Center issue in the court which mandates court hearing unlike private filing of cases by others. He cooperated all along while doing opposite talk.

> Purandeshwari into BJP.

I said before, she is an insult to NTR. Like many, she lost all credibility as she hung on to Congress till last moment and now jumping to another party.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 06 Mar 2014 20:15

Klaus wrote:SG's checkmate will come with the US court summons with regard to 1984 riots, she's been trying to get that withdrawn without much success. The Amirkhans are one (or two) up at all times, she may very well be fed to the wolves by the next dispensation in Dilli.

Madhu Yashki & the Owaisis will be left high & dry if the NGO cottage industry in India comes under the microscope.

Need to look into Carpatho-Ukraine & current Moldovian experiment to understand Telengana. USA has learnt a few lessons from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its ability to keep the Bolsheviks, Ukranians & the later Soviets off-balance till WW1 happened, similar experiment being repeated a century later in India.

I'm not sure how it affects her personally. She is neither party to the incident or didn't have any political post or role when incident happen.

She can freely and happily apologize on behalf of Congress if push comes to shove and she happens to hold party post till then. If somebody takes over Congress, she doesn't have to care.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Mar 2014 11:09

>>Ratnakar Sadasyula ‏@ScorpiusMaximus 6m
Ambika Laxminarayana in Hindupur joined TDP, this anyway has been their strong seat, P.C.Ganganna from Puttaparthi too.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 07 Mar 2014 19:44

Sent to me by a friend.The politician in the picture is Harish Rao of TRS. Dora in Telangana context is a feudal title used for predominantly Velama and Reddy castes represented politically by TRS and T-Cong respectively. Srikanthachari is a BC/SC (not sure which one) activist who committed suicide during T-agitation. I am not accurate in literal sense to the dot with the translation but just paraphrasing.

దొరా నీకాల్మొక్కుతా..
'..నేను శ్రీకాంతాచారి తల్లిని..''.. (Dora, I will touch your feet, this is SriKanthaChari's mother) .

వేరు తెలంగాణాకై బహుజనులు పోరుతెలంగాణా నడిపారు. తమలో 1200 మంది తెలంగాణా ఆత్మగౌరవం కోసం, తెలంగాణా ప్రజల స్వపరిపాలనకై ప్రాణత్యాగం చేశారు. ఆ అమరవీరుల ప్రతినిదే శ్రీకాంతాచారి. నడిరోడ్డుపై ' జై తెలంగాణా నినాధంతో నిలువెల్లా దహించుకున్నాడు. నేడు తెలంగాణా సిద్దించింది. తెలంగాణా దొరలు తమ అధికార దాహన్ని తీర్చుకోవడానికి, బహుజనులను వెట్టిచారికీకై బంధించడానికి..తామే తెలాంగాణా తెచ్చామని చెప్పుకుంటూ అమర వీరుల త్యాగాలను తమ గడీలకు తోరణాలుగా కట్టుకుని, కడుపుకోత మోస్తున్న తల్లులచేత కాళ్ళు మొక్కించుకుంటున్న తెలంగాణా దొరనం ఇది. బహుజనబంధుపై విరుచుపడిన తెలంగాణా దొరల బానిసతొత్తుకొడుకుల స్పంధనకై చూస్తున్నాను..

"Bahujan" people did the fight for Telangana.1200 of them sided for Telangana self respect and self rule.Those Martry's representative is Srikanthchary.He immolated himself in the middle of the road with "jai telangana".Now telangana is real.The "Doras" of Telangana for their lust for power and to oppress the Bahujans' are saying they are the only ones who got telangana and are making the mothers of such bahujan martyrs touch their feet.This is a example of the feudal mentality of the doras.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Mar 2014 21:40

X-post....

satya wrote:
sum wrote:{quote}TSP's foreign office knew b4hand simple as that . Usual suspects cutting across the party line made that decision{/quote}
Didnt catch the part about TSP foreign office!
Sum

TWIW, TSP does have some diplomats with functional brain and they tend to send their best in India & US .It was an open secret at that time that Nitish Babu was the front runner among non BJP/INC leaders . So it was a logical thing for TSP to invite him & the red carpet .

JohneeGee

No sir please . I have not earned 'sir' neither in age nor in knowledge .
There's an option on betfair ( a sport betting exchange ) called 'cashout'. You can use this option during a game : when you are winning & when you are losing. It makes sense for professional punters to limit their losses when a bet goes against them . AP bifurcation was the 'cashout' option exercised by INC at the end of day .

most likley Congress will be wiped out in both sides of the AP and then the cashout opiton is zero value.
The T Cong is Reddy faction and will get the few seats they would anyway have got. In AP the Congress is defecting to TDP, YSRC and BJP.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 07 Mar 2014 21:50

"Bahujan" people did the fight for Telangana.1200 of them sided for Telangana self respect and self rule.Those Martry's representative is Srikanthchary.He immolated himself in the middle of the road with "jai telangana".Now telangana is real.The "Doras" of Telangana for their lust for power and to oppress the Bahujans' are saying they are the only ones who got telangana and are making the mothers of such bahujan martyrs touch their feet.This is a example of the feudal mentality of the doras.

Looks to be a commercial for the Maovadis.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 07 Mar 2014 21:55

Rony wrote:Sent to me by a friend.The politician in the picture is Harish Rao of TRS. Dora in Telangana context is a feudal title used for predominantly Velama and Reddy castes represented politically by TRS and T-Cong respectively. Srikanthachari is a BC/SC (not sure which one) activist who committed suicide during T-agitation. I am not accurate in literal sense to the dot with the translation but just paraphrasing.

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దొరా నీకాల్మొక్కుతా..
'..నేను శ్రీకాంతాచారి తల్లిని..''.. (Dora, I will touch your feet, this is SriKanthaChari's mother) .

I assumed he was Brahmana from the name. He is BC then. In AP, Sali castes (Kamsali, Padmasali, Viswabrahmana, Kaikala, etc) are also Dwija and keep the name extensions -achari/-acharya. In Southern AP districts I'm familiar with they have old traditions of Upanayanam before entering into learning their Vruthi (occupation/skill). This tradition is also there in Mangali or Nayibrahmana castes.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 07 Mar 2014 22:03

TDP is going all out as BC party in Telangana. They have outstanding declaration for some years that they would give 100+ seats for BCs. Now leader of 60 BC castes from Telangana declared support for TDP.

TV9 - TDP will fight for BC reservation - Chandrababu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg

TV9 - TDP must come to power for BCs - R Krishnaiah
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 07 Mar 2014 23:18

ShyamSP wrote:TDP is going all out as BC party in Telangana. They have outstanding declaration for some years that they would give 100+ seats for BCs. Now leader of 60 BC castes from Telangana declared support for TDP.

TV9 - TDP will fight for BC reservation - Chandrababu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg

TV9 - TDP must come to power for BCs - R Krishnaiah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg

I don't understand this whole reservations thing. Why?

It is stupid. No one votes because of reservations. Empowerment, Growth, Transparence and Jobs.

You don't want another SCAMGress and #AAPCON

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 07 Mar 2014 23:58

vivek.rao wrote:
ShyamSP wrote:TDP is going all out as BC party in Telangana. They have outstanding declaration for some years that they would give 100+ seats for BCs. Now leader of 60 BC castes from Telangana declared support for TDP.

TV9 - TDP will fight for BC reservation - Chandrababu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg

TV9 - TDP must come to power for BCs - R Krishnaiah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND475xGKDxg
I don't understand this whole reservations thing. Why?

It is stupid. No one votes because of reservations. Empowerment, Growth, Transparence and Jobs.

You don't want another SCAMGress and #AAPCON

With disclaimer that I'm against any reservations in India with some exceptions, I say Mandal was meant for UP and now it is reaching AP.

Having said that check the second video where one person is saying for many from 60 BC castes don't have real chance to fight in elections and go to Assembly and they don't know whether to sit on the ground or on the bench in the Assembly. (Sarcastically saying as In real life they sit on the ground in front of Doras).

In Telangana BCs make up 60% but their representation is low. Only TDP brought many BCs to leadership roles. That process is continuing. Reservations here are for political institutions as BCs are already covered for education and jobs in reservation categories.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Mar 2014 00:28

If TRS shoots itself in the foot (which it is capable) then TDP can do a resurgence as it has cadre intact in Telangana. In all probability TDP and BJP are going together on either side. Telangana BCs as leadership will work in favor of TDP

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 08 Mar 2014 00:38

Muppalla wrote:If TRS shoots itself in the foot (which it is capable) then TDP can do a resurgence as it has cadre intact in Telangana. In all probability TDP and BJP are going together on either side. Telangana BCs as leadership will work in favor of TDP

Muppalla-garu, and other AP experts: Been struggling to answer a question to which I have not found any reliable statistics. My own experience of Hyderabad and Rangareddi districts is that there are significant number of SA folks here. Roughly, what percentage of people do you think are from SA in these two districts? Also, what about Nalagonda? Does it also have a share of SA folks?

With TRS, Cong, and even BJP heaping insults on the SA folks, my gut says that these people will go for the only party that they feel can protect them from any madness of KCR (to date he has not indulged in open violence after T has been created, but one never knows when the impulse will return) i.e., TDP, and maybe even Lok Satta. Far from the TDP dying in T, I suspect that based on SA voters and BCs TDP will make a return. The only problem they have to sort out is the leadership issue, and how they will relate to CBN (can CBN tolerate another CM in his party?). Going with BJP in T might not suit the purposes of TDP at all (Chicken Reddy will demand 50 seats and will win 2, that too with TDP help). BJP has nothing to offer on either side. I suspect that the increase in TRS voteshares we are seeing is a direct result of the BJP voters migrating en masse to the TRS (what does BJP offer that TRS does not offer better?). A better plan for TDP might be to ally with Lok Satta.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 08 Mar 2014 01:18

Reservations from where? Oh, I get it. AP is not yet reached the level of TN where 95% seats are reserved where as in AP it is still 70-75%. God speed I say.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 08 Mar 2014 01:21

ShyamSP wrote:Viswabrahmana,

Members of this caste can even practice paurohityam.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Mar 2014 01:22

ShyamSP wrote:
vivek.rao wrote:
I don't understand this whole reservations thing. Why?

It is stupid. No one votes because of reservations. Empowerment, Growth, Transparence and Jobs.

You don't want another SCAMGress and #AAPCON
With disclaimer that I'm against any reservations in India with some exceptions, I say Mandal was meant for UP and now it is reaching AP.

Having said that check the second video where one person is saying for many from 60 BC castes don't have real chance to fight in elections and go to Assembly and they don't know whether to sit on the ground or on the bench in the Assembly. (Sarcastically saying as In real life they sit on the ground in front of Doras).

In Telangana BCs make up 60% but their representation is low. Only TDP brought many BCs to leadership roles. That process is continuing. Reservations here are for political institutions as BCs are already covered for education and jobs in reservation categories.

I did not see videos. If it is political reservations, I am not in disagreement.

But Reservations should not be focus of jobs and education. We have enough quotas.

Job creation (skilled/semi-skilled/unskilled), training, manufacturing should be focus areas. I am sure Modi and Naidu can deliver that platform

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Mar 2014 01:24

nageshks wrote: Muppalla-garu, and other AP experts: Been struggling to answer a question to which I have not found any reliable statistics. My own experience of Hyderabad and Rangareddi districts is that there are significant number of SA folks here. Roughly, what percentage of people do you think are from SA in these two districts? Also, what about Nalagonda? Does it also have a share of SA folks?

With TRS, Cong, and even BJP heaping insults on the SA folks, my gut says that these people will go for the only party that they feel can protect them from any madness of KCR (to date he has not indulged in open violence after T has been created, but one never knows when the impulse will return) i.e., TDP, and maybe even Lok Satta. Far from the TDP dying in T, I suspect that based on SA voters and BCs TDP will make a return. The only problem they have to sort out is the leadership issue, and how they will relate to CBN (can CBN tolerate another CM in his party?). Going with BJP in T might not suit the purposes of TDP at all (Chicken Reddy will demand 50 seats and will win 2, that too with TDP help). BJP has nothing to offer on either side. I suspect that the increase in TRS voteshares we are seeing is a direct result of the BJP voters migrating en masse to the TRS (what does BJP offer that TRS does not offer better?). A better plan for TDP might be to ally with Lok Satta.

In today's demographics, Seemandhras or earlier so called "settlers" will be 50% of Hyd-RReddy districts. (take out all the Muslims for this reference point). Muslims + T folks will be large enough if such an impossible polarization can ever be achieved. It varies if you go constituency-by-constituency. There could be a some constituencies where SA folks could be a majority. Every village town has sizeable number of SA folks in T region.

It is not a correct assumption to think that SA folks will not vote to TRS. They are doing a very good campaign. My dad tells that so far every month only TRS folks come to home to ask about what is needed for the locality and what they should do kind of stuff. Rhetoric is different from ground.

Having said that, most of SA folks will vote for TDP. BJP will not get any big number of seats from TDP. The deal could be that BJP will be junior partner is SA-LS, SA-Assembly (probably token number) and T-Assembly. Only T-LS BJP will have few more extra seats. Who are there from BJP to even contest? Extremely few contestants and also near-negligible cadre in many T-Districts.

by the way here is something for laughs (or not? )

No entry for north Telangana leaders: DK

Mahbubnagar: Former minister DK Aruna on Thursday raked up controversy when she told local mediapersons that leaders from "north" Telangana would not be allowed to dominate over "south" Telangana.

DK Aruna made the statement at Makthal town, apparently peeved over TRS president K Chandrasekhar Rao holding a massive public meeting in her hometown, Gadwal.

"We south Telangana people are strong enough to govern ourselves. We know how to develop the region," she said.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 08 Mar 2014 01:27

Rony wrote:Why TRS snubbed Congress, flirted with BJP

But KCR is angered by the Congress on two counts: 1. The Congress did not take the initiative to bring him to a negotiation table to strike a deal, as it construed the merger of the TRS would be obvious and automatic. 2. The Congress leaders of Telangana cornered him and demanded he merge TRS with their own party. The breach of an unwritten protocol by the Congress at all levels turned out to be a bitter pill which KCR and his followers refused to swallow, even grudgingly.

Besides, a merger with a national party that has huge presence in the region would shut the door for many things, many leaders and many opportunities for the TRS. If TRS leaders have to forgo their seats and make compromises under Congress pressure, some of them might leave the party and join other political hawks waiting to swoop down on Telangana.

By creating a committee under TRS general secretary K Keshav Rao and declaring that whichever national party wants to ally with them should approach this committee first, KCR tried to give an impression that he has an upper hand on the BJP and Congress in the region. But the Congress doesn’t seem willing to bend backwards for an alliance with the TRS. Senior Congress leader Shabbir Ali quickly retorted that KCR was in no way responsible for the formation of a separate Telangana. He recalled that KCR had never offered any amendment to the Andhra Pradesh Reorganisation Bill, 2013 during its debate in the Parliament, even as Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimeen MP Asaduddi Owaisi came up with a few amendments. Shabbir sought to know as to why KCR didn’t raise any of the objections he talked about on Monday night during the Parliament debate. KCR’s sarcastic remark at a news conference: “Who had the people felicitated for achieving Independence to India? Had they feted Gandhi, Nehru and Patel or had they honoured Queen Elizabeth for declaring Independence to India,” too angered the Congress leaders. Though KCR apparently pulled the plug and wanted to go it alone, he raised the bar as he feels his bargaining power soared. Any national party would have to play a second fiddle to him in the region. Or, at least, that is what he thinks. But the wacky ways of the Telangana crusader did not surprise anybody.

Strange that KCR is only now finding out that Congress under Sonia doesn't respect any Telugu politician, and never has. Better that he go and worship in that Soniamma temple that has come up, maybe that goddess will give him some scraps.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Mar 2014 02:17

nageshks wrote:BJP has nothing to offer on either side. I suspect that the increase in TRS voteshares we are seeing is a direct result of the BJP voters migrating en masse to the TRS (what does BJP offer that TRS does not offer better?). A better plan for TDP might be to ally with Lok Satta.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Mar 2014 02:25

Muppalla wrote:by the way here is something for laughs (or not? )
No entry for north Telangana leaders: DK
Mahbubnagar: Former minister DK Aruna on Thursday raked up controversy when she told local mediapersons that leaders from "north" Telangana would not be allowed to dominate over "south" Telangana.

DK Aruna made the statement at Makthal town, apparently peeved over TRS president K Chandrasekhar Rao holding a massive public meeting in her hometown, Gadwal.

"We south Telangana people are strong enough to govern ourselves. We know how to develop the region," she said.

It's not even a week since Telangana has been formed, yet ...

President signed the AP Reorganization Bill into law only on March 1st, 2014. Telangana Formation Day is on June 02, 2014. North Telangana, South Telangana!

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 08 Mar 2014 02:31

Listen to Anam Vivekanada Reddy (for non AP folks benefit, he is a Congress politician, one of the few who is still with Congress). Pretty hilarious

Must watch for people who can understand Telugu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLVfWPN7LJk

He predicts a hung assembly both in T and SA, says both Jagan and KKR will merge with Congress at the end of the day and Congress will return to power after some years (may be next election).

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 08 Mar 2014 02:36

That may very well happen!!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Mar 2014 04:04

After some years Kishen Reddy dreams of CM of Telangana.

. This some years stuff is unpredictable.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 08 Mar 2014 04:42

Muppalla wrote:After some years Kishen Reddy dreams of CM of Telangana. . This some years stuff is unpredictable.

Will he get elected this time, saar? I have great hopes that Chicken Reddy will lose, and may end up being replaced by someone a bit more capable.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 08 Mar 2014 06:01

nageshks wrote: Will he get elected this time, saar? I have great hopes that Chicken Reddy will lose, and may end up being replaced by someone a bit more capable.

It depends on the final configuration of which parties are going with whom. If BJP goes alone he may win an assembly seat and parl seat is tough.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 08 Mar 2014 06:58

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 08 Mar 2014 07:46

nageshks wrote:
Muppalla wrote:After some years Kishen Reddy dreams of CM of Telangana. . This some years stuff is unpredictable.
Will he get elected this time, saar? I have great hopes that Chicken Reddy will lose, and may end up being replaced by someone a bit more capable.

Kishen Reddy was elected unanimously without opposition

http://www.hindu.com/2010/03/06/stories ... 060600.htm

G. Kishan Reddy, MLA, will be the next president of the State unit of BJP and succeeding Bandaru Dattatreya.
His was the only nomination received for the post at the close of deadline on Friday evening.
...
He said three sets of nominations, each representing a region, were filed on behalf of Mr. Reddy.
...
Mr. Kovind also said only 37 nominations were received for the election of 42 national council members from the State.

Its not some grand conspiracy by T BJP to elect Kishen Reddy. It shows the pathetic state of affairs with BJP in AP and the roots lie in the years of the NDA alliance with TDP.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 08 Mar 2014 08:28

Rony wrote:

Choodu pinnamma paadu pilladu
ganulu ganulu dochu kunnadu

donga ani jail lo pedithe
dobbu licchi baita kocchadu

Votla kosam peddamma chilchithe
chinamma ni kooda chooda mannavu

Gali dongani jail lo vesthe
split kosam baitaku chesthavu

Namo emo desanni vuddaristhe
nevu emo kampu lepavu

Modi emo peeammu ante
Nevu emo churaka pedathavu

Choodu pinnamma paadu pilladu
ganulu ganulu dochu kunnadu

Tune reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXt-xuURMjI

Pinnamma = Chinnamma (Mother's younger sister)