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vimal wrote:Tableeghis need compassion in this crisis, not FIR

nam wrote:

SRoy wrote:Lock down is going to get extended, looking at the infection rate for last few days and today.

We don't know yet. It has just been 7 days.

The good thing is the increase in the infection rate is after 7 days from the lockdown.

We will know early next week. However GoI might extend it for another 7 days.

Karan M wrote:

brar_w wrote:
Everyone expecting a spike needs to do both. Even hospitals that currently exist, even the best ones, cannot completely isolate patients in wards or even ICU's given the sheer numbers we are talking about. Protocols are being looked at for sharing ventilators. Its all hands on deck and everyone that needs it, needs to add capacity to the highest level possible with limited workforce constraints, and equipment availability in mind. Those dorms and convention centers are attractive because it is an efficient way to manage a large cohort of sub-acute positive with a small healthcare workforce. Unless you can get complete buildings spreading patients around would have quite an impact on the mobilized workforce, ambulances and other support..This is why GOI and state governments need to look at government universities and transforming class rooms, and student hostels into these. Add capacity now if the larger metros project a spike in cases. Unlike NY, London or Paris..India's major cities still have time.

Even moderate Apartment complexes in India typically have anywhere around 100-200 flats spread across a handful of towers.

vimal wrote:Tableeghis need compassion in this crisis, not FIR

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A day after the Jammu and Kashmir High Court came to the rescue of 400 pilgrims stranded at Mata Vaishno Devi shrine in the region, in New Delhi, a case was registered against the preacher and his aides who organised the Tablighi Jamaat congregation in Basti Nizamuddin, violating government orders and exposing many to the deadly coronavirus.

These two consecutive events show contrasting ways of handling the crises.

On March 31, Maulana Saad and others members of the Tablighi Jamaat were booked under the Epidemic Disease Act, 1897 and relevant sections of the Indian Penal Code for alleged violation of government directions given to the management of Markaz in Basti Nizamuddin regarding restrictions for prevention, and treatment of the Covid-19 infection.

ANI
@ANI
Some news is spreading in social media that 400 devotees are stranded at the Vaishno Devi shrine. It is clarified that no devotee is stranded in Katra or Vaishno Devi. Yatra stopped on 18th March, much before the lockdown: RK Jangid, CEO Shri Mata Vaishno Devi Shrine Board, J&K
10:12 AM · Mar 31, 2020·Twitter Web Client

brar_w wrote:

Karan M wrote:
Even moderate Apartment complexes in India typically have anywhere around 100-200 flats spread across a handful of towers.

Are complete unoccupied buildings available in major cities? I think that could be considered but hotels seem more suitable given they should be empty (or can be made empty) and you get all the rooms that are in close proximity to each other thus allowing more efficient staffing.

fanne wrote:What is PSA?

The valuable force which is required to control Corona Crisis is now busy finding farar jamat attendees. Mumbai alone has 460+ Jamaat attendees. Most of the force is busy finding them.

Creating a crisis in a crisis and sabotaging is an act of crime against the people of India.

While watching this video of Indore (M.P) where Doctors are being chased & stones bein hurled on them one feels very strongly that #ShootatSight orders should be announced. These terrorists deserve to be behind bars. It’s frightening.
#NizamuddinMarkaj

Sanju wrote:

vimal wrote:Tableeghis need compassion in this crisis, not FIR

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Vimal ji, you missed the most important part in there. The Super Turd @majihyderi writes in the first para:

A day after the Jammu and Kashmir High Court came to the rescue of 400 pilgrims stranded at Mata Vaishno Devi shrine in the region, in New Delhi, a case was registered against the preacher and his aides who organised the Tablighi Jamaat congregation in Basti Nizamuddin, violating government orders and exposing many to the deadly coronavirus.

These two consecutive events show contrasting ways of handling the crises.

On March 31, Maulana Saad and others members of the Tablighi Jamaat were booked under the Epidemic Disease Act, 1897 and relevant sections of the Indian Penal Code for alleged violation of government directions given to the management of Markaz in Basti Nizamuddin regarding restrictions for prevention, and treatment of the Covid-19 infection.

Please refer to ANI

ANI
@ANI
Some news is spreading in social media that 400 devotees are stranded at the Vaishno Devi shrine. It is clarified that no devotee is stranded in Katra or Vaishno Devi. Yatra stopped on 18th March, much before the lockdown: RK Jangid, CEO Shri Mata Vaishno Devi Shrine Board, J&K
10:12 AM · Mar 31, 2020·Twitter Web Client

This is spreading misinformation with a purpose to sow disharmony and to paint the GOI as anti-Muslim. This needs to be curtailed at the earliest.

Alok Gupta, an Indian working in Beijing, said that the China lockdown was less drastic than the one India has instituted. “Unlike India, in Beijing, buses ran,” explained Gupta. “Cabs were made to run after the first week with a plastic sheet between the passenger and the driver. Domestic flights and trains were only barred from some provinces, not all.”
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After China, the next country that saw a rapid rise in cases was Italy. Copying China, the European country also instituted a lockdown. While the lockdown covered all of Italy, it was not as drastic as India’s. For one, it was imposed in stages. The first quarantine measure was imposed on February 21 in a region in the north and covered only 50,000 people. It was only on March 9 that the lockdown was extended nationally.
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Even, then, though Italy did not impose restrictions as harsh as India’s. “Unlike India, here public transport was never shut down completely,” explained Neelini Sarkar an Indian citizen who lives in Milan, a hotspot for the Italian outbreak.

Italy has, instead, instituted a pass system where people can take a bus or a flight depending on need. This is starkly different from India where all transport, within or between cities, stands shut. This is in spite of the fact that, as of March 28, Italy had 9,134 Covid-19 deaths compared to India’s 19.

vimal wrote:More on CoronaJihad

https://twitter.com/vivekagnihotri/stat ... 3177494530

The valuable force which is required to control Corona Crisis is now busy finding farar jamat attendees. Mumbai alone has 460+ Jamaat attendees. Most of the force is busy finding them.

Creating a crisis in a crisis and sabotaging is an act of crime against the people of India.

New video of peacefuls attacking medical workers when they are trying to help.

https://twitter.com/ashokepandit/status ... 77606?s=20

While watching this video of Indore (M.P) where Doctors are being chased & stones bein hurled on them one feels very strongly that #ShootatSight orders should be announced. These terrorists deserve to be behind bars. It’s frightening.
#NizamuddinMarkaj

chola wrote:Maybe we need to go hard in the initial 21 days. But India needs to adapt a bit in the following days. I am worried we are doing damages above and beyond what ever the worst hit countries are doing. The masses of migrants and the lathi videos are affecting me maybe but I think we cannot continue this kind of lockdown with serious damage to the people and economy. We need to allow some loosening.

Suraj wrote:

nvishal wrote:The nizamuddin tribes have spread the virus into the ghettos around India. If is not a secret that it has been difficult to get these castes to vaccinate against common diseases.
These people operate many small to medium sized retail stores outside ghettos areas. Many are secretive in their social life. Even if members die from coronavirus, they won't resister it with local authorities.
How to deal with this?

As long as they remain clustered and die out within those clusters, there is no transmission to the wider population. Their behavior is both a curse and a blessing in this situation. That they refuse to follow public policy and public health guidelines makes them very susceptible in these situations. However, their subsequent ghettoized behavior means they keep it from spreading outside of those areas. Those who willfully reject and refuse the efforts of the state, at best should avoid affecting those who are willing to do so, and as long as that is the case, we cannot do more.

arvin wrote:https://www.deccanherald.com/national/s ... 20098.html

Health workers in Telangana surveying the neighborhoods of Nizamuddin Markaz returnees have complained of abuses and information refusal from the locals, in some areas like Nizamabad. Speaking to DH, the district medical and health officer of Nizamabad Dr M Sudharshanam said that some of the minority community members “were repulsive, thinking the survey was part of the NRC.”

April 15 date was set with certain assumptions in mind among them is co-operation from all sections of society. Till sunday it had gone smoothely. Markaz cases has put all calculations to toss.

g.sarkar wrote:

Suraj wrote: As long as they remain clustered and die out within those clusters, there is no transmission to the wider population. Their behavior is both a curse and a blessing in this situation. That they refuse to follow public policy and public health guidelines makes them very susceptible in these situations. However, their subsequent ghettoized behavior means they keep it from spreading outside of those areas. Those who willfully reject and refuse the efforts of the state, at best should avoid affecting those who are willing to do so, and as long as that is the case, we cannot do more.

Surajji,
What you are saying is not quite correct. We have two, the peaceful have twelve. They may live in clusters in ghettos, but their men folk come and work among the general population. As CV spreads with even small contact, they will spread it quickly. Their 12 can withstand the virus, even if some perish, our two will be overwhelmed.
Gautam

krishna_krishna wrote:Posting this as the latest news shows that it is a conspiracy to unleash these bio super carriers to launch such a pandemic on India, this is a well thought out plan unravelling:

RVS Mani explains how tabligh jamat is dangerous to security of India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIRqVuk ... e=youtu.be

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra
@Iyervval
19n Understand what happened. Thanks to the #TablighiJamaat & their infernal #Nizamuddin Markaz India’s efforts to flatten the curve have been delayed by between 2 weeks to a month. What’s even more amazing is instead of being repentant and cooperating, they’re defiant & violent

hanumadu wrote:https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/124 ... 53696?s=20

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra
@Iyervval
19n Understand what happened. Thanks to the #TablighiJamaat & their infernal #Nizamuddin Markaz India’s efforts to flatten the curve have been delayed by between 2 weeks to a month. What’s even more amazing is instead of being repentant and cooperating, they’re defiant & violent

वैमानिकी
@nileshjrane
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Mar 24
An interesting document released on MoHFW website -
"Micro Plan for Containing Local Transmission of
Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)" with the aim of "To contain the outbreak of COVID-19 in defined geographic area"

https://mohfw.gov.in/pdf/ModelMicroplan ... OVID19.pdf
वैमानिकी
@nileshjrane
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Mar 24
It chalks out SOP/Advisories/processes etc for various activities in order to cordon off a certain geographic area with local outbreak seen, in order to contain the virus spread. In case exact specific extent cannot be identified quickly, the guideline is to create a 3-km radius
वैमानिकी
@nileshjrane
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Mar 24
containment zone and 5-km buffer zone to isolate the virus. And run a combing operation on the area to identify and isolate all the positive cases.

Every new case is to be treated as an epicenter of outbreak the micro-plan for containment is to be carried out.

g.sarkar wrote:

Suraj wrote: As long as they remain clustered and die out within those clusters, there is no transmission to the wider population. Their behavior is both a curse and a blessing in this situation. That they refuse to follow public policy and public health guidelines makes them very susceptible in these situations. However, their subsequent ghettoized behavior means they keep it from spreading outside of those areas. Those who willfully reject and refuse the efforts of the state, at best should avoid affecting those who are willing to do so, and as long as that is the case, we cannot do more.

Surajji,
What you are saying is not quite correct. We have two, the peaceful have twelve. They may live in clusters in ghettos, but their men folk come and work among the general population. As CV spreads with even small contact, they will spread it quickly. Their 12 can withstand the virus, even if some perish, our two will be overwhelmed.
Gautam

hanumadu wrote:Please read the entire thread.

https://twitter.com/Iyervval/status/1245366498543058945

Multiple instances of stoning against police and medical professionals.

How effectively can we seal those areas in case of emergence of clusters of infection? The only way would be to deploy a large force with rifles, machine guns, grenades, perhaps tanks, helicopter gunships. Shoot at anything that dares to come out of the ghettos.
What about Hindus and other non peacefuls living among them? How can we extract them and provide food and necessary treatment for them?

kvraghav wrote:https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/ ... -to-c.html
Looks like Kerala do not have the milk processing unit in the state owned milk federation and neither any private players doing this. They are dependent on Tamil Nadu for this. Is this state administration doing anything other than schools till 10th standard and propaganda?

chola wrote:^^^ I know, Karan ji, I know. I am torn. The lockdown is absolutely necessary. But closing off of all transportation can be loosen after the 21 days? It's not just sentimental. No transportation stops economic activity completely.

Arun.prabhu wrote:The focus on the tests is pretty hard to understand when up to 60% of the infected show no symptoms and do not qualify for the tests. Better to ignore the tests - which serve no purpose than to highlight the fear in people's hearts at this time - and to start focusing on treating symptoms, keeping patients alive and getting production of necessary medical equipments, drugs and accessories in order.

DrRatnadip wrote:3) Our physicians and ICU staff is well trained in managing viral ARDS due to routine management of swine flu and other similar forms of ARDS