Bharat Rakshak

KLPDubey, no questions on frock-fiction please. Just go with the holy dirge.

hnair wrote:lady Sewerella (or is it Suarella?) might be balking and talking, but our “People’s Republic of Kerala” have already sent the tallest Komarade Kommissar yonder and clinched this sub-national deal:

FB post

Translation: “By grace of St Marx, We have signed agreement with albionese govt for allowing smooth human traffic of our nurses to serve the NHS and take care of all those retired shop-keepers by leaving behind their own parents. Please send money-orders anytime because we don’t have bank holidays, only hartals”

Her current nickname is Cruella (cf Disney's 101 Dalmatians).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ed-workers
Truss Faces Fresh Headache as India-UK Free Trade Deal Stuck
*Britain’s ask for duty cuts on auto, scotch yet to be decided
*October deadline for concluding talks likely to be missed
Shruti Srivastava, October 12, 2022
India’s reputation as one of the world’s toughest trade negotiators is becoming more than an inconvenience for UK Prime Minister Liz Truss.
While Prime Minister Narendra Modi pledged to prioritize rapid “early harvest” trade agreements in 2021, India has signed just two new deals -- one with United Arab Emirates and another with Australia. Now prospects for a much-touted pact with the UK look to be getting bogged down.
For Truss, India’s stance may force her to offer concessions because the pressure to strike big trade deals is already high. Failure will provide another blow to her post-Brexit vision that the UK can clinch new deals in markets that were previous closed off due to its membership in the European Union.
The US has already signaled that a deal with the UK is off the table in the short run.
Any failure to conclude a trade accord with Britain will be a missed opportunity for India, a nation upon which many economies are pinning their hopes amid intensified geopolitical struggles between the west and China. The deal, if clinched, would be India’s biggest and most ambitious free-trade agreement to date.
Immigration Concerns
But talks between India and the UK have hit a snag over easier access to thousands of skilled workers from the South Asian nation that is likely to push finalizing a free-trade agreement beyond the October deadline.
New Delhi’s position has hardened in the ongoing negotiations amid concerns raised by UK Home Secretary Suella Braverman on migration from India. The comments made last week prompted India to say both the nations should “honor” the “understanding” with regards to migration mobility.
New Delhi is also seeking to claw back half a billion pounds in payments made by Indian workers toward Britain’s social security system as part of the deal, people familiar with the matter said. Further, the UK’s offer to restrict movement of skilled workers would skew the proposed trade deal in favor of Britain and wouldn’t be a win-win for both nations, the people said.
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https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 004105.ece
India-U.K. free trade deal on ‘verge of collapse’ over visa comments: Report
PTI, LONDON, OCTOBER 13, 2022
The Times quoted government sources to say that ministers in New Delhi were ‘shocked and disappointed’ by the ‘disrespectful’ remarks made by U.K. Home Secretary Suella Braverman
The India-U.K. free trade agreement (FTA) is reportedly on the “verge of collapse” after the Indian government was angered by comments made by U.K. Home Secretary Suella Braverman questioning action over visa overstayers from the country, a U.K. media report claimed on October 12.
The Times quoted government sources to say that ministers in New Delhi were “shocked and disappointed” by the “disrespectful” remarks made by Ms. Braverman, who said she had concerns of an “open borders” offer to India as part of an FTA. The likelihood of meeting the Diwali deadline for the pact, set by former Prime Minister Boris Johnson, is now believed to be diminishing.
“There’s still a lot of goodwill but if certain individuals are still embedded in the [U.K.] government it will paralyse the talks,” the newspaper quoted a source as saying.
A report in Politico claims that any plans of a U.K. visit by Prime Minister Narendra Modi for Diwali to sign off on an FTA is also now not likely to go ahead.
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Gautam

Interesting choice of words by Bloomberg, this is how western media puts us on a lower peg without most of us not even noticing.

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ed-workers

Any failure to conclude a trade accord with Britain will be a missed opportunity for India,

The UK economy is in the dumps, and is now the smaller of the two economies. Yet a failure of the talks is an issue only for India.

New Delhi is also seeking to claw back half a billion pounds in payments made by Indian workers toward Britain’s social security system as part of the deal

The UK and the US have an agreement to allow their workers to repatriate social security savings into each others' pension systems upon moving, yet when India asks for the same thing, we are looking to "claw it back" as though it's someone else's money. It's basically loot to the tune of thousands of dollars/pounds per person that they are quite content to keep with themselves.

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ed-workers
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https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 004105.ece
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Gautam

Sir-ji, one small request. When posting multiple articles, can you please not use that line to separate the articles? It makes the page very hard to read on a mobile and one has to zoom in a lot to catch the text (and your articles are usually quite informative, so I don't want to skip them). Instead, could you please use quote tags around each such article? That would provide the separation between the articles (which the mobile view also handles well) and also address the copyright issue wherein we are quoting part of the article with the proper references. Thank you!

arshyam wrote:

New Delhi is also seeking to claw back half a billion pounds in payments made by Indian workers toward Britain’s social security system as part of the deal

The UK and the US have an agreement to allow their workers to repatriate social security savings into each others' pension systems upon moving, yet when India asks for the same thing, we are looking to "claw it back" as though it's someone else's money. It's basically loot to the tune of thousands of dollars/pounds per person that they are quite content to keep with themselves.

Pretty Us and India have the same agreement

Arshyamji,
Bloomberg, Guardian, NYT. BBC etc. must be taken with a pinch of salt as they come with an agenda that is anti India. A pinch here, and a pinch there and already my BP has hit the roof.
Regarding the separating line, I apologize. I use a desk top and never a cell phone for reading BRF. When I was gainfully employed, my employer did not allow me to carry a cell phone at work, so I am still learning how to use it. I will try to put each article in a separate post from now on. I have been putting articles together, as otherwise my post count will go high and make me look older than my true BRF age. I also request you to read those articles directly in its original format, as due to copyright reasons, I can not copy them entirely. A partial copy and paste may not do justice to the articles. Thanks for the compliment.
Regards,
Gautam Sarkar

pravula wrote: Pretty Us and India have the same agreement

I was not aware of this. In any case, those on temporary work visa (H1B) do not get any return from their Social Security/Medicare contributions, when they return back to India after 5-6 years. Their employer's contribution to both is also "lost". That is a net profit for the US federal government and they will be loth to let it go.
Gautam

pravula wrote:

arshyam wrote:
The UK and the US have an agreement to allow their workers to repatriate social security savings into each others' pension systems upon moving, yet when India asks for the same thing, we are looking to "claw it back" as though it's someone else's money. It's basically loot to the tune of thousands of dollars/pounds per person that they are quite content to keep with themselves.

Pretty Us and India have the same agreement

I don't think the totalization agreement was ever signed between US and India. Maybe my memory serves me wrong ...

g.sarkar wrote:

pravula wrote: Pretty Us and India have the same agreement

I was not aware of this. In any case, those on temporary work visa (H1B) do not get any return from their Social Security/Medicare contributions, when they return back to India after 5-6 years. Their employer's contribution to both is also "lost". That is a net profit for the US federal government and they will be loth to let it go.
Gautam

I think it depends on if the alien is a resident or non-resident alien.https://www.irs.gov/government-entities ... tus-to-h1b

Seems that the FICA withholding, at the time of employment, is automatic. After that the person's residency is determined. Based on which the FICA **could be refunded**.

chetak wrote:UK finance minister Kwarteng has been sacked

Nice to see you back in action @Chetak ji.

This is funny, NRao posted this in Ukraine Geopolitical fallout dhaaga, yesterday

NRao wrote: ...
The proposed pipeline: current finmin resigns, followed by Truss, elections, Labor wins, Starmer the PM.

If Truss follows the FM, is this why Sunak was sidelines so Least Trust can finish Tory rule and bring waar mongering labour? Immature and flipflop of the FM was very surprising. Crazy enough to wake up sleepy Joe across the pond and ask, WTF are you doing with tax cuts? In the finance world there are some now talking about possibility (very small) of UK completely folding in coming years. Interesting times.

Britain is now a banana monarchy.

chanakyaa wrote:

chetak wrote:UK finance minister Kwarteng has been sacked

Nice to see you back in action @Chetak ji.

This is funny, NRao posted this in Ukraine Geopolitical fallout dhaaga, yesterday

NRao wrote: ...
The proposed pipeline: current finmin resigns, followed by Truss, elections, Labor wins, Starmer the PM.

If Truss follows the FM, is this why Sunak was sidelines so Least Trust can finish Tory rule and bring waar mongering labour? Immature and flipflop of the FM was very surprising. Crazy enough to wake up sleepy Joe across the pond and ask, WTF are you doing with tax cuts? In the finance world there are some now talking about possibility (very small) of UK completely folding in coming years. Interesting times.

I believe Sunak knew more about the economic situation as well as the European political wind blowing wrt Ukraine., those gomatha pooja etc was orchestrated quite cleverly polarising voter opinion, it would seem he wanted to be heard but not enough to be PM.

He would have a strong role in the next elections.

Cruella is also doing something similar., pandering to a certain section of the party , by blowing hot over "Indian" immigration., she is positioning herself for the next cabinet.

they in effect seem to be building their own rafts before Truss and co sinks.

chanakyaa wrote:

chetak wrote:UK finance minister Kwarteng has been sacked

Nice to see you back in action @Chetak ji.

This is funny, NRao posted this in Ukraine Geopolitical fallout dhaaga, yesterday

NRao wrote: ...
The proposed pipeline: current finmin resigns, followed by Truss, elections, Labor wins, Starmer the PM.

If Truss follows the FM, is this why Sunak was sidelines so Least Trust can finish Tory rule and bring waar mongering labour? Immature and flipflop of the FM was very surprising. Crazy enough to wake up sleepy Joe across the pond and ask, WTF are you doing with tax cuts? In the finance world there are some now talking about possibility (very small) of UK completely folding in coming years. Interesting times.

Thank you chanakyaa ji.

looks like tante truss is asleep at the wheel


here is UK finance minister Kwarteng's resignation letter

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ng-sacking
How ‘knives of the long night’ led to brutally swift Kwarteng sacking
The chancellor was dispatched soon after touching down, but Tory colleagues were not convinced that was enough to save the PM
Aubrey Allegretti, Jessica Elgot and Pippa Crerar, 14 Oct 2022
As the clock reached closer to midnight, Kwasi Kwarteng finished deliberating about heading home from Washington DC to attempt to save his political career.
He eventually boarded the final flight back to London, but when he reached Downing Street 12 hours later, he was sacked as chancellor on the spot. The “knives of the long night” episode, as it is now called, took place with brutal swiftness.
It was the culmination of a chaotic week in Westminster, which saw furious calls for an overhaul of Truss and Kwarteng’s mini-budget while her premiership teetered on the brink.
The mood of Tory MPs was already toxic, given their party conference in Birmingham had been plagued by a series of U-turns and blue-on-blue attacks. But to test the feeling of the public, Kwarteng did a walkabout through his leafy constituency of Spelthorne, in Surrey, last Friday.
While passing an estate agent, he waved through the window and stopped when a woman inside got up, seemingly to greet him. Instead, she is said to have come to the window, made an obscene gesture and told the chancellor he was a disgrace.
In Downing Street, Truss and her team were drawing up a fightback plan, sending out cabinet ministers to write opinion pieces in friendly newspapers calling for party unity and urging colleagues to focus their attacks on Labour.
It was decided she would hear out colleagues’ concerns at the 1922 Committee of Tory backbenchers, seeking to show them she was in “listening mode”, and begin inviting groups of MPs into No 10 for roundtable discussions. Both were hallmarks of the end of Boris Johnson’s administration, but helped stave off his defenestration for some months.
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Gautam
"Night of the Long Knives" was the purge of Nazi leaders by Adolf Hitler in 1934. Hitler ordered the murder the SA leaders, including Ernst Röhm. It is significant that this term is being used.
Added later: In this turmoil, it is perhaps better to shelve the UK-India FTA, as a side that is on the loosing side will not be able to compromise or give a better deal.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JaimieAlexKa ... 08/photo/1


Daily Star has a live feed, seeing whether Truss will outlive a lettuce

kit wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/JaimieAlexKa ... 08/photo/1


Daily Star has a live feed, seeing whether Truss will outlive a lettuce

I hope she stays for the full term, she is making pappu looks smart at this point

kit wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/JaimieAlexKa ... 08/photo/1


Daily Star has a live feed, seeing whether Truss will outlive a lettuce

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-sc ... s-63194942
Scotching the trade deal with India?
Douglas Fraser, 13/10/2022
*Post-Brexit, one of the big prizes in UK trade talks would be a deal with India, and Scotch whisky could benefit most. A deal has been getting close.
*It is now in doubt because of comments by new Home Secretary Suella Braverman. Saying that Indians are over-staying their work permits strikes at the biggest gain that Delhi wants to see, and has caused offence.
Glenkinchie in East Lothian: the go-to Scotch whisky distillery for new secretaries of state for international trade who don't have time to visit Speyside or Islay.
With a new visitor centre as part of the Johnnie Walker branding, it offers nice media pictures with the copper stills, representing one of Scotland's and Britain's most successful exports.
Kemi Badenoch visited on Thursday, highlighting her department's gains from breaking through logjams in access to alcohol markets.
Welcome though it is for distillers to reduce tariffs and other barriers in Tunisia, Morocco, Argentina or Angola, the big prize for the industry is India - the world's biggest whisky-drinking market.
It has a 150% tariff on imports of Scotch, and bringing that down has been a key ask of New Delhi's trade negotiators from European trade commissioners and now, post-Brexit UK trade secretaries.
Their efforts haven't dented that tariff yet. India's domestic distillers like that level of tariff protection, though the biggest one, Diageo, also happens to be the company with most to gain from opening up the market for Scotch.
Understandably in any trade negotiations, India wants gains in return. Its big ask has been for easier access to the UK for Indians, with skills they can deploy in IT and far beyond, either with work permits or for intra-company transfers.
In a rush to ink trade deals and show that post-Brexit trade negotiations can deliver results, last April prime ministers Boris Johnson and Narendra Modi set a target deadline of the Diwali holiday, which is later this month, for an outline Free Trade Agreement (FTA). (To Hindus, this biggest festival of the year is to honour Lakshmi, the goddess of wealth and prosperity.)
That was an ambitious target. India is a formidable negotiator on trade. Brussels has found that talks tend to run into obstructions. A lot of people have a foot on the brakes. But the April announcement set the pace for some busy months of talking.
According to observers, there was a real prospect of a Diwali deal. The expectations of how widely the deal will range are being talked down. We're told it might be a work in progress, to which elements could be added. That sounds like a negotiating strategy that only aims for the easy gains, and any fall in the Scotch whisky tariff may turn out to be modest.
Speaking at the Glenkinchie distillery, Ms Badenoch said the Diwali deadline is definitely gone. "We are close," the trade secretary said. "We're still working on a deal. One of the things that has changed is that we are no longer working to the Diwali deadline.
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Gautam

Cyrano wrote:Since when did anthropologists develop expertise to build weather forecasting systems?
His bio says "Filippo Osella is Professor of Anthropology And South Asian Studies at University of Sussex, UK. He has conducted extensive research in Kerala (South India), as well as in Sri Lanka, and in Gulf Cooperation Council countries such as UAE, Oman and Qatar." Thats enough to set off alarms.

Cyrani gaaru, I just finished reading "Annihilation" by Jeff vanDermeer. You say anthropologist?!!! Check that book out.

chetak wrote:UK finance minister Kwarteng has been sacked

Chetak ji, welcome back. Missed your ascerbic posts for many moons.

Atmavik wrote:..
I hope she stays for the full term, she is making pappu looks smart at this point

+1

My second wish is for Im-the-Dim to come back to power in Jihadistan

Vayutuvan wrote:

Cyrano wrote:Since when did anthropologists develop expertise to build weather forecasting systems?
His bio says "Filippo Osella is Professor of Anthropology And South Asian Studies at University of Sussex, UK. He has conducted extensive research in Kerala (South India), as well as in Sri Lanka, and in Gulf Cooperation Council countries such as UAE, Oman and Qatar." Thats enough to set off alarms.

Cyrani gaaru, I just finished reading "Annihilation" by Jeff vanDermeer. You say anthropologist?!!! Check that book out.

Might be useful if you please give some teasers!...hope this is not related to biological / genetic warfare

Vayutuvan wrote:

chetak wrote:UK finance minister Kwarteng has been sacked

Chetak ji, welcome back. Missed your ascerbic posts for many moons.

Thank you Vayutuvan ji.

Nice to be back.

What is sauce for the goose ...


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/visa ... -wrjwn5z20

India allows citizens of 156 countries to use its e-visa system to apply and pay for a US-style electronic visa. The UK, along with nations including Algeria, Burkina Faso, Lebanon and Pakistan, is excluded, and it’s unclear why. Until this week British visitors could still apply for a paper visa by post.

and to rub in some salt .... "What is known is that India no longer sees foreigners as primary drivers of its tourism economy. With a burgeoning middle class unable to travel overseas during the pandemic, India saw an upsurge in domestic tourism, and that has become the focus for growth for the prime minister, Narendra Modi. As one inbound tour operator put it: “The British are still welcome, but they’re not really necessary.”

UK is in illustrious company though

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/br ... 47701.html
A taste of their own medicine: How British tourists to India are struggling with sudden visa delays
The English experience what Indians have been facing for months – delays in getting visas. Hundreds have to cancel their trips to India as the High Commission has enforced in-person applications. Is this a fallout of the UK home secretary’s remarks on Indians ‘overstaying’ in Britain?
FP Explainers, October 14, 2022
Visas delays have become all too common for Indians travelling to the West. But now, the British are getting a taste of their own medicine as tourists planning trips to India have to face a long wait.
There’s a reported “change” in the way India processes visas. The Indian High Commission in the United Kingdom has started enforcing a rule which requires British citizens to visit visa centres in person. As a result, the wait time for tourists looking to travel to India has increased.
Visa agents in the UK received notices that they are no longer permitted to apply for tourist visas on behalf of applicants. The Indian High Commission has said that the in-person visa application rule has come into force to stop travel agents from illegally charging fees to process visas for travellers.
Travel plans hit
Since the rule has come into force, it has affected the travel plans of British tourists. Why so?
According to a report on NDTV, there are no visa appointments available for British citizens. There has been a growing backlog for visas to India in the last few months.
Appointments at India’s nine visa processing centres in Belfast, Birmingham, Bradford, Cardiff, Edinburgh, central London, Hounslow, Leicester and Manchester are fully booked for more than a month, reports Mirror, UK.
British citizens, who have plans to travel to India, have been complaining that they have not been getting slots for visa appointments. That is not all. Even the time-consuming visa process has them fretting.
Now hundreds are left with little choice but to cancel their plans to travel to India with many losing money on flights and accommodation.
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A fallout of Suella Braverman’s remarks?
There has been some tension in ties between Britain and India after Home Secretary Suella Braverman remarked that Indians overstay in the UK.
“I have concerns about having an open borders migration policy with India because I don’t think that’s what people voted for with Brexit," Braverman had told the Spectator earlier in the month. “Look at migration in this country, the largest group of people who overstay are Indian migrants.”
Now some in the UK have said that the insistence on in-person applications is a fallout of the comments and India’s way of making their displeasure clear.
Journalist Sunny Handal wrote on Twitter on 10 October, “I was told this morning that the Indian government is retaliating against Suella Braverman’s comments last week by putting a delay on visas to India. This has led to hundreds of British Indians having their plans thrown into disarray over visa delays.”
He said that this would affect all British citizens but especially impact those of Indian origin as Diwali nears.
Earlier, the Britishers could also apply for a paper visa to India through the post but the process has now been banned.
An experience common to Indians
With the in-person rule being enforced, Britons who are not used to a wait for visas have to face what Indians have been experiencing for months, especially post the pandemic.
The unprecedented delays in getting UK visas hit both Indian visitors and students with the 21-day process taking more than two months in some cases. The British High Commission had in July announced a six-week timeframe to get visitor visas. “Standard visitor visas are taking around six weeks to process…. Some applications might take longer. We are working hard to get back to the three-week service standard,” a spokesperson of the British High Commission in Delhi told The Times of India in July.
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Gautam

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/br ... 47701.html
A taste of their own medicine: How British tourists to India are struggling with sudden visa delays
The English experience what Indians have been facing for months – delays in getting visas. Hundreds have to cancel their trips to India as the High Commission has enforced in-person applications. Is this a fallout of the UK home secretary’s remarks on Indians ‘overstaying’ in Britain?
FP Explainers, October 14, 2022

Isn't that counter productive to "Incedible India" after all we are seeking more tourists.
Why play such games with tourists who are good for creating jobs.
If Indians don't get visa it's loss for UK tourism.

Indraji, sometimes it is okay to take a very small hit to the bottomline in the short term so that the other party realizes we won't be a pushover in important areas. The tourism revemue dent is not much but the message has to be conveyed now or else will not be received by other party.

Cut your nose to spite your face. It's not the loss, it's the message that needs to be conveyed.

Sometimes you will never get the similar opportunity (other party is in a very weak position and we know it)...

isubodh wrote:

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/br ... 47701.html
A taste of their own medicine: How British tourists to India are struggling with sudden visa delays
The English experience what Indians have been facing for months – delays in getting visas. Hundreds have to cancel their trips to India as the High Commission has enforced in-person applications. Is this a fallout of the UK home secretary’s remarks on Indians ‘overstaying’ in Britain?
FP Explainers, October 14, 2022

Isn't that counter productive to "Incedible India" after all we are seeking more tourists.
Why play such games with tourists who are good for creating jobs.
If Indians don't get visa it's loss for UK tourism.

Terrorist supporting Sunny Hundal and his ilk are not tourists.

Legitimate British Indians should apply for an OCI, and I think GOI needs to revamp OCI rules as well to weed out Jihadis, Khalistanis and Woke Extremists who carry out propaganda against India.

Also, we are big enough that we don't really need British tourists that much, and there has been a massive amount of internal tourism since COVID restrictions opened up.

isubodh wrote:

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/br ... 47701.html
A taste of their own medicine: How British tourists to India are struggling with sudden visa delays
The English experience what Indians have been facing for months – delays in getting visas. Hundreds have to cancel their trips to India as the High Commission has enforced in-person applications. Is this a fallout of the UK home secretary’s remarks on Indians ‘overstaying’ in Britain?
FP Explainers, October 14, 2022

Isn't that counter productive to "Incedible India" after all we are seeking more tourists.
Why play such games with tourists who are good for creating jobs.
If Indians don't get visa it's loss for UK tourism.

sometimes a kick in the teeth is the only way that these britshits will learn.

The wokes in India have been on an anti India tirade since before independence and the britshits have been banking on them forever.

cruella would not have dared to express the sort of opinion that she did if she did not have the support of the deep state

cruella knows her aukat and place in in the white man's world.

She would not have dared transgress unless she had been told to

the attempt to tank the FTA is likely to have been encouraged from across the pond

Najunamar wrote:Sometimes you will never get the similar opportunity (other party is in a very weak position and we know it)...

That weakness relative to us is only going to increase going forward. This is just the beginning.

the attempt to tank the FTA is likely to have been encouraged from across the pond

exactly what I've been thinking. Unkil wants India to send some of its huge inventory of Russian maal to Ukra-een and didn't like the finger shown.

Cyrano wrote:

the attempt to tank the FTA is likely to have been encouraged from across the pond

exactly what I've been thinking. Unkil wants India to send some of its huge inventory of Russian maal to Ukra-een and didn't like the finger shown.

Exactly so., UK is just 53rd state of US of A

Benefit of FTA would have disproportionately gone to the Brits . As such tech wise they have nothing to offer . The FTA could have blunted the blow of the long deep recession they are inevitably going into. But then since when did unkil gave 2 hoots about collateral damage and suffering of civies.

kit wrote: Might be useful if you please give some teasers!...hope this is not related to biological / genetic warfare

It is not biowarfare but not resolved in the first book. It is a mystery so any teaser would be spoilers. Check the Wikipedia page out.

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Vips as arshyam garu said your post is needless and demeaning, please desist