J&K Union Territory-2019

bala · Post by **bala** » 11 Dec 2023 23:34

Article 370 Judgement Reaction by Media, Liberals, Pakistan, Panchmakkars. Jaipur Dialogues with Vijay Sardana, Vibhuti Jha and Sanjay Dixit.

// all the britshit shenanigans are disappearing under Modi Raj. Kashmore is no more, since it is now squarely part of Bharat. Where in the world would you see muslims (J&K Barelvis) singing in their masjids.
// next in line is Gilgit Baltistan and Baluchistan, Sindh to join Bharat and return to Sanatan Dharma.

An actual J&K resident talks about abrogation of 370 and upheld in SC. Col Ajay Raina. Jammu is celebrating and Ladakh is indeed very happy. Kashmir people are very intelligent and know the benefits of free unfettered life with Bharat which is on the rise (they notice the shambles next door).

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Dec 2023 01:45

disha wrote: ↑11 Dec 2023 23:24 Cashmeres have to behave before they get their own state.

It is not the Kashmiris as such, it is the Abdullahs and Muftis, and their hangers-on.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 12 Dec 2023 10:50

srin wrote: ↑11 Dec 2023 11:55 The restoration of statehood is a sour note. I think a Delhi style statehood would ensure that law and order apparatus within state isn't subverted by jihadi loving politicians

This should not be a major problem. Because there are provisions like Article 356 which can be used on a state government to behave themselves. With J&K becoming a state, minus Ladakh - the Jehadis will not be able to try their tricks in the Buddhist areas. J&K police would be restricted to policing only Jammu and the Kashmir valley. And all agencies under GoI can now operate in full swing in J&K territory.

What needs to be seen is the distribution of the MLA constituencies in the J&K state once it is formed. In the olden days, the valley Jehadis had the maximum number of MLAs.

disha · Post by **disha** » 12 Dec 2023 13:52

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 01:45
disha wrote: ↑11 Dec 2023 23:24 Cashmeres have to behave before they get their own state.
It is not the Kashmiris as such, it is the Abdullahs and Muftis, and their hangers-on.

There is a distinction between Cashmeres and Kashmiris. The ordinary gujjar folk for example, who are peaceful and carry on with their own lives without any virus of Jehad etc are Kashmiris. Cashmeres are the assorted gangs and their leaders like Abdullahs and Muftis, their pawns like the stone pelters, the hijabi's like duktharan-e-millat and their 72 male-hoors in colleges like NITs or Cashmere Univ. or their supporters across the world like Arfas and DMKs and all the strange bedfellows from marxist JNUs to Katari pimps. They are merely using Indians as canon fodder for their own private agendas driven by Cash.

So yes, until Cashmeres behave, there is no point in giving statehood to Kashmir.

disha · Post by **disha** » 12 Dec 2023 14:07

Sachin wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 10:50
What needs to be seen is the distribution of the MLA constituencies in the J&K state once it is formed. In the olden days, the valley Jehadis had the maximum number of MLAs.

That is why, separate Jammu as a state and the erstwhile areas of PoK viz the arc from Poonch-Rawalkot-Bhurban-Naushera can be part of Jammu State and the Neelam Valley will be part of the Cashmere UT. Gilgit-Skardu will be part of Ladakh UT. POK integration starts from Gilgit-Skardu, then Neelam Valley and then the "upper mirpur", the rest can be had by the moth-eaten state of bakistan. Once Balochistand and Sindh separate, the rump of Bakistan can fend for itself against Afghanistan. The "lower mirpuris" can go and provide them with 72 houris.

Landlocking the valley jehadis for 2-3 generation is the only option. And hopefully the pandemic of Jehad is contained by that time.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 12 Dec 2023 14:29

I'm expecting trouble from CCP/PLA on the Himalayan borders. Last time 370 was repealed, they started mobilising and Galwan happened few months later. They think our SC is as pliable to power as their systems are. They will feel G219 and Sakshgam are next targets of GoI. Only this time we are more than prepared.

If such stuff happens, unkil will let it playout hoping it will only push India more into US "arms".

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 12 Dec 2023 14:39

Cyrano wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023 14:29 I'm expecting trouble from CCP/PLA on the Himalayan borders. Last time 370 was repealed, they started mobilising and Galwan happened few months later. They think our SC is as pliable to power as their systems are. They will feel G219 and Sakshgam are next targets of GoI. Only this time we are more than prepared.

If such stuff happens, unkil will let it playout hoping it will only push India more into US "arms".

That is possible, but not in the short term. It is winter now and the PLA will find it difficult to conduct any major troop movements. Also, Taiwan's elections are in Jan. The party predicted to win is anti China and if they make noises about independence, China may have to intervene.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 12 Dec 2023 16:19

A hit piece in France24/AFP, courtesy Mukhtar Khan, Indian photo journalist.

https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacifi ... s-autonomy

This is meltdown or frustration or hatred or all of these...

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 12 Dec 2023 20:32

https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... r-9064035/

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 12 Dec 2023 21:55

^^^Good stuff. If possible, our EAM should also pen similar articles in international press debunking the narrative prevalent in the western media (the FP link I posted above is a good ex). He has done it in many interviews in the past, but more is needed to counter this age old anti-Bharat propaganda.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 13 Dec 2023 03:43

Slain J&K terrorists buried at encounter sites now: Amit Shah

NEW DELHI: As part of its "zero terror" plan for Jammu & Kashmir, service rules in the UT have been changed to ensure the dismissal of a government employee if anyone from his family is found involved in terror activities.
Stating this, home minister Amit Shah said the rule applies to those whose relatives may be promoting terror while based in Pakistan, adding that the administration has been using denial of passports and debarment from government jobs and contracts as means to curb terror.
Speaking after SC endorsed Modi government's decision to scrap J&K's special status on Monday, Shah made it clear that the government's hardline approach towards terror, which involves "area domination" by armed forces, was working, with its success best manifested by the dramatic drop in cases of stone-pelting after the application of President's rule.
"I want to state that for reasons of security, we have taken stern measures. Before 2014, you could see crowds joining the funeral processions of slain terrorists. Have you seen any such thing happening after the removal of Article 370? This has happened because we have decided that terrorists (who get killed in encounters) will be buried at the same place in full accordance with religious rituals," Shah said.
While the quiet burial of terrorists, aimed at preventing graves from being turned into objects of veneration and rallying point for hardliners, has been going on for some time, what stood out was the forthrightness with which Shah disclosed it to be a policy decision. "Why do you think this happened? We put out ads saying that those with even a single case of stone-pelting registered against them will not be considered for public employment," he added.
While Shah listed in details measures taken by the government post scrapping of special status, he dismissed counsel from the opposition benches to show sensitivity. "We are sensitive towards youth but our concept of being sensitive stops at that. I am sorry but we can never be sensitive towards terrorists."

bala · Post by **bala** » 15 Dec 2023 01:52

I think this YT is a good overview of Article 370, its prior history and legalize by J. Sai Deepak, a constitutional lawyer who works in Supreme Court of India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqAH07nQxiE

Summary:
On Sept 17, 1956 J&Kashmir Constitution was created and 370 was a bridge until then. The moment the constitution was created 370 is gone. J&K is Bound by Article 1 and 2 and Instrument of succession. There is no scope for succession of J&K.

J. Sai Deepak says that in the 1971 war settlement, when India has 90K+ Puki soldiers, India should have settled J&K thoroughly, asking Pukis to leave the occupied areas. I agree.

BTW China is in violation of UN resolution passed in 1948 by occupying Shakshgam valley since both India and Pukis agreed with the resolution. Furthermore the Pukis are required to vacate all occupied areas of J&K.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 15 Dec 2023 15:41

Is this a recent lecture or a re upload? Seems that it was delivered a few years ago...

Given the repeal of 370 and 35A, and the recent SC judgement upholding it, the Constituion of J&K ceases to exist ie becomes null and void - doesn't it?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Dec 2023 23:19

bala wrote: ↑15 Dec 2023 01:52 I think this YT is a good overview of Article 370, its prior history and legalize by J. Sai Deepak, a constitutional lawyer who works in Supreme Court of India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqAH07nQxiE

Summary:
On Sept 17, 1956 J&Kashmir Constitution was created and 370 was a bridge until then. The moment the constitution was created 370 is gone. J&K is Bound by Article 1 and 2 and Instrument of succession. There is no scope for succession of J&K.

J. Sai Deepak says that in the 1971 war settlement, when India has 90K+ Puki soldiers, India should have settled J&K thoroughly, asking Pukis to leave the occupied areas. I agree.

BTW China is in violation of UN resolution passed in 1948 by occupying Shakshgam valley since both India and Pukis agreed with the resolution. Furthermore the Pukis are required to vacate all occupied areas of J&K.

bala saar,

we should have also sorted out the vital chicken neck issue and taken some considerable area of beedi land to widen the chicken neck area, either on long lease (long lease 999 years) or even outright purchase

we seem to have missed the bus there.

the Indian leadership was clueless, both at shimla, and the vison for negotiating a geopolitical agreements with the beedis that would have been advantageous to us

now, on the backfoot, we have reached a state of open appeasement with these jokers

bala · Post by **bala** » 15 Dec 2023 23:47

chetak wrote: ↑15 Dec 2023 23:19 we should have also sorted out the vital chicken neck issue and taken some considerable area of beedi land to widen the chicken neck area, either on long lease (long lease 999 years) or even outright purchase

we seem to have missed the bus there.

the Indian leadership was clueless, both at shimla, and the vison for negotiating a geopolitical agreements with the beedis that would have been advantageous to us

now, on the backfoot, we have reached a state of open appeasement with these jokers

Chetak saar, I would go one step further on BD besides the chicken neck area. India should have kept Chittagong port for the Indian Navy. BD should have been made an Indian protectorate i.e. they can be independent but no military for them, just a police would suffice. Why do they need military, India is not going to attack them, they have no immediate neighbor that can threaten them. India also should have insisted on free right of way through the nation, with no hindrance of any kind.

The above model can be used for breakaway parts of Pukes - Sindh, Baluchistan, NWFP, etc. India provides defence of their regions (for a fee) but they govern themselves. Anybody who threatens them militarily has to deal with India, so they will back off. India also gets free right of way through the nation states, with no hindrance of any kind.

wig · Post by **wig** » 05 May 2024 08:15

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/iaf-warr ... -involved/

IAF Warrior martyred in Poonch terror attack, 5 injured; 3 terrorists involved
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terrorists ambushed a convoy of the Indian Army Force (IAF) at Bakrabal Mohalla near Sanai in Surankote tehsil of Poonch district this evening in which an IAF Warrior was martyred while five other soldiers were injured.
The attack resembled to December 21, 2023 ambush by the terrorists at Dera Ki Gali in Bufliaz area of Surankote in which four Army soldiers were martyred while three civilians were later killed under mysterious circumstances.

Reports said the terrorists, whose exact number couldn’t be ascertained immediately but it was believed to be three, had taken positions atop a hill and rained bullets on the IAF convoy when it reached Bakrabal Mohalla near Sanai in Surankote tehsil, which was almost isolated area, around 6.15 pm today.
Alert troops fired back and engaged the terrorists in gun battle but they managed to escape towards mountainous area.
Six IAF personnel sustained injuries in the attack, one of whom later attained martyrdom.
The martyr has been identified as Vicky Pahade and the injured as Basit, BL Singh, AK Mishra, Sham Lal and Dabhi SH.
“Five IAF personnel received bullet injuries and were evacuated to the nearest military hospital for immediate medical attention. One Air Warrior succumbed to his injuries later. Further operations are on by the local security forces,” a Defence spokesperson said in a post on X tonight.
The convoy was reportedly on way to Shastar from Jaran Wali.

wig · Post by **wig** » 06 May 2024 18:16

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/j-k/t ... ics-618343

Terrorists using steel bullets to ambush forces in Jammu and Kashmir, taking to ‘hit-&-run’ tactics
18 persons killed so far this year

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May 4, 2024: 1 IAF man killed in ambush in Surankote, Poonch

Dec 21, 2023: Four soldiers killed by terrorists in Surankote

Nov 22-23: Two officers among 5 killed in Kalakote encounter

Sept 13: One soldier killed in encounter in Rajouri’s Narla area

May 5: 5 Army commandos killed in IED blast in Rajouri’s Kandi

April 20: 5 soldiers killed in ambush at Bhatta Dhurian, Poonch

Lethal ammo

Security forces concerned about steel bullets used by terrorists to ambush military vehicles
Such bullets made of hardened steel can pierce armoured vehicles and cause major damage
Even bulletproof vests become vulnerable if steel bullet fired from close range
Most of the ambushes on vehicles in both districts along the Line of Control (LoC) took place where the roads meander in deep forest areas. All attacks were coordinated and pre-planned with terrorists taking at least three different positions to attack military pre-planned with terrorists taking at least three different positions to attack military convoys. On Saturday, when an IAF convoy was on its way to Sanai Top in the Surankote area in Poonch, it came under heavy fire near the Shahsitar area. Five IAF men were injured in the attack, of whom one succumbed to his injuries.

Sources in the Army intelligence said in all recent attacks, the ultras were likely aware of the movement of military vehicles. “They spray steel-coated bullets on trucks, which makes it nearly impossible to escape unhurt. The terrorists are well trained in ambushes. They know the positions they have to take during the attack. Even in Saturday’s attack, bullets were fired from at least three different directions,” said a source.

The strategy of “hit and run” by terrorists where they open indiscriminate firing on military vehicles and escape into deep forest area before the reinforcements come has turned the attention of Army commanders towards this new technique. However, despite multiple ambushes in the past one year, the forces have not been able to devise a strategy to prevent these. The incidents have also raised questions on the security scenario in the region and failure of intelligence. After last year’s April 20 ambush near Bhimber Gali, five Army commandos lost their lives in the Rajouri’s Kandi area on May 5 when terrorists triggered an explosion as the soldiers reached near them.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 06 May 2024 18:46

^^ Time to start doing the same thing in POK. Give them a taste of their own medicine

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 06 May 2024 20:04

sanjayc wrote: ↑06 May 2024 18:46 ^^ Time to start doing the same thing in POK. Give them a taste of their own medicine

That's not how it works. You have to obliterate them, AkhandBharat should not just be a slogan or a map. What and all ways are used to achieve it, is it through Salami slicing or any other means should come from the leadership. We have to go as far as it takes and demands. Until then we have to keep the small hopes alive of retaliation as you mentioned with the hands tied Gandhian ways.

wig · Post by **wig** » 09 May 2024 08:22

https://www.dailyexcelsior.com/pak-army-not-qabalis/

Pak Army, not qabalis, by Maj Gen G S Jamwal (Retd)
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The Government of that time, Nehru and Abdullah did not listen to us because their only aim at that time was Maharaja Hari Singh’s removal. We have also been saying that it were not the qabalis who raided Kashmir but Pak Army just as they did in Kargil war. But Pakistan told world and their own countrymen that it were mujahideen, and not Pak army which attacked India. Pakistan took the name of Mujahideen by meeting outside forces and talking to outside countries. Similarly in 1947, they took the name of Qabalis. Rather, we know that Mountbatten was left at the helm of affairs only for the reason that he would give Jammu and Kashmir to Pakistan and for this, he colluded with then the Supreme Commander Auchinleck. They expected that more and more parts of Jammu and Kashmir go to Pakistan. If possible, at not the whole of Jammu and Kashmir, but at least the whole of Kashmir, Gilgit, Baltistan and Ladakh.
Maharaja Hari Singh and his Dogra soldiers did not allow all this to happen. The Dogra forces who fought under Brigadier Rajendra Singh, were in fact fighting in Jammu since August 15, from Kathua, Hiranagar to Poonch all this was the plan of the British and even if the Government of India knew, the British were sitting there to implement it. Similarly we still say that the attack carried out by Pakistan on Jammu and Kashmir is in our records. Our book “History of J&K Operations” by Ministry of Defence was released in June 1987, everything is written in it but it has never been circulated, no one knows it in the universities, even the people of Jammu do not know about this and I have written it in my book, ‘Valour and Betrayal’. But there are very few people who read; and as Malik Sahib has raised this very point, we should tell the whole public, the press and the world about it. Is similarly the British should tell the truth about the betrayal done to us in the 1947 war.
Brigadier Rajendra Singh and his 100 Dogra soldiers who saved Srinagar Airport and J&K are not mentioned anywhere. If Col Narayan Singh had not stopped them at Muzaffarabad on the 22nd, there was no one on the entire road from Muzaffarabad to Srinagar to stop them on that day.
By the time Pakistani Column reached Garhi on 23 Oct Brig Rajinder Singh and his 60 men under Capt Prithi Singh and Sub Dhuni Chand were ready to make Garhi Pakistanis Waterloo. Brig Rajinder Singh with 60 Dogra of J&K Infantry now known as JAK Rifles made it a world-class battle about which VP Menon wrote in his book ‘The Story of Integration of Indian States’ that it was not less than the Battles of Thermopylae in Greece in 480 BCE. They held them till 4 O’clock. The delay that Mountbatten imposed in sending the Army by one day resulted in ransacking of Baramulla. This was a conspiracy of the British against the Indian army by colluding with Pakistan and it is now coming out

brvarsh · Post by **brvarsh** » 09 May 2024 22:36

The guy that threatened India "Pakistan ne choodiyan nahi pehni hain" should be replied by declaring Gilgit and Baltistan as two new separate UTs of Indian republic under one Governor.

wig · Post by **wig** » 10 May 2024 18:22

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ma ... 7d1b&ei=17

excerpt

Massive protests broke out in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) on Friday over rising prices and unjust taxes even as the Pakistani administration tried to crush the protests by deploying additional troops of Pakistan Rangers and Frontier Corps.
Seventy activists have been detained by police to prevent a 'long march' announced by the Jammu Kashmir Joint Awami Action Committee, reported The Dawn.

The Committee had planned a general strike and transport strike on Friday to press the Pakistani government to comply with an agreement reached between the two in February this year.

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 11 May 2024 02:02

Post by wig » 10 May 2024 18:22

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ma ... 7d1b&ei=17

excerpt
Massive protests broke out in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (POK) on Friday over rising prices and unjust taxes even as the Pakistani administration tried to crush the protests by deploying additional troops of Pakistan Rangers and Frontier Corps.
Seventy activists have been detained by police to prevent a 'long march' announced by the Jammu Kashmir Joint Awami Action Committee, reported The Dawn.

The Committee had planned a general strike and transport strike on Friday to press the Pakistani government to comply with an agreement reached between the two in February this year.

Here India should give Moral, Monitory and Political support to POK Kashmiris

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 May 2024 10:28

Terror attacks in Anantanag, Shopian.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Yl8iAwwW_v ... 2ZJ8hX06JY

wig · Post by **wig** » 21 May 2024 18:34

https://statetimes.in/breaking-news-con ... allotment/

Controller, Legal Metrology J&K Majid Khalil Ahmad Drabu, IAS, His Brother-In-Law Miwaiz Umar Farooq Hurriyat Leader, Others Booked For Illegal Prime Land Allotment

Anti Corruption Bureau (ACB) Srinagar registers FIR (10/24) against Majid Khalil Ahmad Drabu, IAS Controller Legal Metrology, his brother-in-law Miwaiz Umar Farooq Hurriyat leader and others for fraudulently and dishonestly resorting to corrupt practices and got allotted 7 kanal 19 Marlas prime custodian land worth crores in their name at Nageen, Srinagar for just Rs 6 lakhs.{/quote]

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 09 Jun 2024 21:00

Possible jihadi terrorist attack

10 die as bus with pilgrims plunges into J&K gorge after suspected terror attack: Officials

As many as 10 people died after a bus carrying pilgrims to the Shiv Khori temple plunged into a deep gorge in Jammu and Kashmir's Reasi district on Sunday after coming under fire from suspected terrorists, officials reported.

The incident occurred in Teryath village in the Poni area, where the bus, filled with devotees, was attacked, according to initial reports from local authorities. The vehicle veered off course and fell into the gorge following the attack.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 09 Jun 2024 23:37

Confirmed terror attack. Horrific pictures of victims, including a child

I am hoping against hope that Modi will shed his Vishwaguru image and kill 10X Pakis residing both in Pakistan and India

But judging by his inaction for the Poonch attacks on our jawans, I have dwindling hopes of him doing anything substantial. He thinks a once-in-5-years Surgical Strike is good enough. Sigh.

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 10 Jun 2024 00:02

Prem Kumar wrote: ↑09 Jun 2024 23:37 Confirmed terror attack. Horrific pictures of victims, including a child

I am hoping against hope that Modi will shed his Vishwaguru image and kill 10X Pakis residing both in Pakistan and India

But judging by his inaction for the Poonch attacks on our jawans, I have dwindling hopes of him doing anything substantial. He thinks a once-in-5-years Surgical Strike is good enough. Sigh.

I am a BJP IT Convener at a Mandal. May I have the link to the pictures please?

Pradyut · Post by **Pradyut** » 10 Jun 2024 00:11

Maria wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 00:02
Prem Kumar wrote: ↑09 Jun 2024 23:37 Confirmed terror attack. Horrific pictures of victims, including a child

I am hoping against hope that Modi will shed his Vishwaguru image and kill 10X Pakis residing both in Pakistan and India

But judging by his inaction for the Poonch attacks on our jawans, I have dwindling hopes of him doing anything substantial. He thinks a once-in-5-years Surgical Strike is good enough. Sigh.
I am a BJP IT Convener at a Mandal. May I have the link to the pictures please?

With all the might of the state at your perusal, you still have to resort to begging for pics of an accident site.
In other words BJP media management is useless.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Jun 2024 01:32

“A joint operation headquarters of the police, Indian Army, and the CRPF was established at the site, launching a multi-dimensionsal operation to apprehend the attackers.”

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Jun 2024 01:41

They are testing the resolve of the coalition govt. If there is not a fierce retaliation within a reasonable time frame then expect five years of this.

SriKumar · Post by **SriKumar** » 10 Jun 2024 04:08

Pradyut wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 00:11 With all the might of the state at your perusal, you still have to resort to begging for pics of an accident site.
In other words BJP media management is useless.

Uncalled for. If you can help in any way, please help. If you cannot, then ignore the post in peace. Sneering at a sincere request for reasons justifiable or not, does not help anyone.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 10 Jun 2024 09:29

Pradyut,

There is a difference between BJP the party and the government being run by the BJP.

If you can't understand the difference between the 2. Perhaps, it would be for the best for you to learn the difference. Before posting on such issues.

syam · Post by **syam** » 10 Jun 2024 10:04

We have to understand, BJP no longer enjoys the overwhelming support among middle class people. Last two years, most of the criticism was swept under rug cuz they had numbers.
By hook or by crook, Cong+ punctured that bubble now. It's no longer core supporters that are being angry with BJP. It's now regular economy and development types who are increasingly getting dissatisfied with Modiji and BJP.

If there is no retaliation from the goi for these terror attacks, the dissatisfaction will grow more. This is biggest challenge for BJP now. The sollution should come from BJP. Not just Modiji.

Maria ji, you should poach our digital defence bois for long term benefit. Take one of them into your team. If I were you, I would poach at least 5 of them.

greatde · Post by **greatde** » 10 Jun 2024 12:11

syam wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 10:04 We have to understand, BJP no longer enjoys the overwhelming support among middle class people. Last two years, most of the criticism was swept under rug cuz they had numbers.
By hook or by crook, Cong+ punctured that bubble now. It's no longer core supporters that are being angry with BJP. It's now regular economy and development types who are increasingly getting dissatisfied with Modiji and BJP.

If there is no retaliation from the goi for these terror attacks, the dissatisfaction will grow more. This is biggest challenge for BJP now. The sollution should come from BJP. Not just Modiji.

That's surreal. This middle class don't even come to vote, too lazy, too arrogant. That includes me obviously.

Modi rightly knows he cannot be dependent on his core voters, and needs many different voter groups. Can Modi also be dissatiffied with his core voters?

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 10 Jun 2024 15:14

Maria wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 00:02
Prem Kumar wrote: ↑09 Jun 2024 23:37 Confirmed terror attack. Horrific pictures of victims, including a child

I am hoping against hope that Modi will shed his Vishwaguru image and kill 10X Pakis residing both in Pakistan and India

But judging by his inaction for the Poonch attacks on our jawans, I have dwindling hopes of him doing anything substantial. He thinks a once-in-5-years Surgical Strike is good enough. Sigh.
I am a BJP IT Convener at a Mandal. May I have the link to the pictures please?

Maria: plz go to Twitter. They are available there. Or Google it and click on Images

Maria · Post by **Maria** » 10 Jun 2024 15:49

Prem Kumar wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 15:14
Maria wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 00:02

I am a BJP IT Convener at a Mandal. May I have the link to the pictures please?
Maria: plz go to Twitter. They are available there. Or Google it and click on Images

I asked for it so that thousands of junior lurkers who visit BRF can see the terror. Gen Z needs to be properly educated on the ways of the world today considering the BIF forces have loads and tonnes of wokism in their arsenal:

Twitter: https://x.com/authoramish/status/180001 ... 12/photo/1

There you go, Islamic terror at its best.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 10 Jun 2024 16:17

syam wrote: ↑10 Jun 2024 10:04 We have to understand, BJP no longer enjoys the overwhelming support among middle class people. Last two years, most of the criticism was swept under rug cuz they had numbers. By hook or by crook, Cong+ punctured that bubble now. It's no longer core supporters that are being angry with BJP. It's now regular economy and development types who are increasingly getting dissatisfied with Modiji and BJP.

Then they deserve Pappu who can impress this shallow class and its uncultivated mind with his intellectual sophistication

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Jun 2024 21:42

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/India/wh ... ngNewsSerp
Why 'Naya Kashmir' chose jailed Engineer Rashid over Omar Abdullah

In what is being termed as a big upset in North Kashmir, independent candidate Abdul Rashid, popularly known as 'Engineer Rashid', turned into a 'giant killer' by trouncing Omar Abdullah by a whopping 2 lakh votes.Â

What makes the debacle worse for Abdullah is that Rashid fought the election from Delhi's high security Tihar jail, where he is incarcerated under the stringent Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. Rashid was arrested after the abrogation of Article 370 in Jammu and Kashmir.

Political observers say Engineer Rashid's victory in many ways is the victory of Indian democracy. He filed his nomination papers while in jail, and his family was uncertain about whether he would be allowed to contest. But since he is only an accused and not proven guilty yet, the Election Commission accepted his nomination. From there started his fairytale electoral journey.

With no money, no organisational structure, and no election strategy, Rashid's son Abrar Ahmed started his road shows with the help of some friends. Within days, this unique campaign started attracting large crowds, the sympathy factor seemed to help him connect with the masses. From kids to youth, and even the elderly joined his road shows.

"I started with 20 supporters, the intent was to meet people and make them understand our cause. When I saw people joining us in big numbers, especially the youth who even came barefoot to be with us, I realised we could win. This dream campaign that was visualised without any money, big party or election strategy, can come true. Today is the day of people's victory," says an overjoyed Abrar Ahmed, who ran a historic campaign for his father in a matter of two weeks, taking North Kashmir by storm.

According to political observers, this is a rare case of an organic campaign for a jailed leader, where the masses lent their support in the hope that a victory for Rashid would get him out of jail. The sympathy wave for Engineer Rashid drowned the campaigns of heavyweights like Omar Abdullah and Sajjad Gani Lone of the Jammu and Kashmir People's Conference.

Abrar Ahmed's campaign for his jailed father is also a case study of how to overcome big money, proper election strategy, robust social media teams, and past electoral experience of two big rivals. What also worked for Engineer Rashid was the ability of his campaign to wake up the boycott bastion that till date had been influenced by the separatist ideology of boycotting the democratic process. This segment of voters too came out in support of Rashid, as they felt that he was being punished for his "unwavering commitment to uphold the dignity of the people".

Post Article 370 abrogation, while every political party in Kashmir that claimed to be fighting for its restoration seemed to have surrendered and moved on, Engineer Rashid was seen as a Lone Ranger who was being punished for not compromising on his principles.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Jun 2024 21:46

https://indianexpress.com/article/polit ... d-9372963/

With Rashid in jail, his campaign was managed by his sons Abrar Rashid (23) and Asrar Rashid (21). They did not talk about Article 370 abrogation, identity issues or development, or bread-and-butter matters like road, electricity or water. Abrar’s appeal was emotional, seeking votes so that his father could “come out of jail”. He also sought votes against “oppression”, as a “revenge” for his father’s arrest.

When he raised the slogan ‘Tihar ka badla (the revenge for Tihar is)’, the crowds would answer back, ‘Vote se (With votes)’.

More than the campaigns run by mainstream parties, Rashid’s tapped into the raw anger against the Centre over the unilateral scrapping of J&K’s special status and stripping of its statehood, followed by a clampdown against voices of dissent.

What Rashid also attracted was the boycott vote, which would earlier stay away from polling booths in the Valley, but which now saw a vote for him as a vote for resistance. Abrar addressed this directly in his poll speeches, saying: “I know that you are the pro-boycott people. But promise me, this time you will come out to vote.”

This vote is seen as having consolidated behind Rashid, given that Lone was dubbed a proxy of the BJP by his opponents, and the PDP and NC carried the baggage of alliances with the BJP in the past.

The newspaper article is self-contradictory. "Did not talk about Article 370 abrogation" + "raw anger against the Centre over the unilateral scrapping of J&K's special status".

While his contest from behind bars underlined this even more prominently, Rashid’s politics since his first foray into elections back in 2008 has always combined separatist politics with faith in democracy – thus putting him apart both from the mainstream and separatist leaders, and filling a crucial middle in the Valley.

There is a huge problem brewing here. Kashmir could slip back into pre-2019 chaos.