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I am just curious,scamtress madam Gandhi's sudden choice of Green saree is kind of symbolic, is it to please certain community? looks like She does not have many cards left.krisna wrote:
according to wkikileaks rajmata never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
political skills of the 2G are media staged and hyped.
Productivity matters. Urban areas are 3 times more productive per capita. Whether you like it or not we will become 90% urbanized in the next 30 years, i.e. our life time. Right balance is not logical. Our entire civilization is not balanced and hasn't been since agriculture began 10,000 years ago. Not a single one of our agricultural crops is naturally sustainable. They will all die out left to nature. Right balance means only about a Million hunter/gatherer type humans can live on this planet as a top predator. About 20,000 or so in India. Everyone else is unbalanced. This is reality, everything else is maya. This is afte all Kaliyug.shyam wrote:Urban life will take much more resources than rural life. Urban population is more vulnerable to major shocks. For the long term sustainability of our civilization, right balance of rural and urban life is needed. 90% urban is ridiculous. People tend to associate poverty with rural life, which is true in many parts of the country, and that is what we need to get rid of. If Modi brings prosperity to rural population, that is the right way to go.
This is not about ideology. The developed status of developed economies are sustained by ponzi schemes. Recently WEF suggested that world needs another $100 Trillion credit to preserve the economic status. This is nothing but a demand for the ponzi money. Once this ponzi money is stopped, many of the huge profit making urban businesses will go away, with that the sustainability of urban life. I don't think it is a good idea to emulate a lifestyle that is sustained by money printing. It may work for some time, but I'm not sure about its effects in the long run, that too when 90% of population depend on it.Theo_Fidel wrote:We are not going to be different from the experience of all developed countries. No more ideology please. Enough experiments going on in our neighborhood. We need to invest in our cities to allow 90% of our people to move there.
This ponzi scheme started 200 years ago and they have sustained that kind of urbanization based on that systemshyam wrote:This is not about ideology. The developed status of developed economies are sustained by ponzi schemes. Recently WEF suggested that world needs another $100 Trillion credit to preserve the economic status. This is nothing but a demand for the ponzi money. Once this ponzi money is stopped, many of the huge profit making urban businesses will go away, with that the sustainability of urban life. I don't think it is a good idea to emulate a lifestyle that is sustained by money printing. It may work for some time, but I'm not sure about its effects in the long run, that too when 90% of population depend on it.Theo_Fidel wrote:We are not going to be different from the experience of all developed countries. No more ideology please. Enough experiments going on in our neighborhood. We need to invest in our cities to allow 90% of our people to move there.
Too soon, taqiya taqiya
Under strong pressure from within the Shoora — the governing body of Dar-ul-Uloom — which elected him, after reports that he praised the Narendra Modi government in Gujarat, the newly elected Mohtamim (Head) of Dar-ul-Uloom, Ghulam Mohammad Wastanavi, today issued a public apology in some Urdu newspapers and rejected allegations that he gave Modi a clean chit on the 2002 riots.
Is nt he inciting violence from bious abduls. of course the secular parties will applaud him“I cannot forgive Narendra Modi, Allah will not forgive Narendra Modi, the common man will not forgive Narendra Modi. No one can forgive Narendra Modi...We will take revenge on Modi. We will pray to Allah for this.”
This is the so called secularism from these types of guys. also the secularists support them.Critics were restive over an MBA theologian taking over the traditional and normally conservative seminary. In the days following his election, there were newspaper ads and statements by clerics questioning his credentials. One attacked him for having been associated with a function involving the distribution of idols in Beed in October. In his apology today, Wastanavi said: “Keeping or distributing idols is a great sin in my faith...therefore, there is no question of keeping or distributing any idols.”
The samson optionkrisna wrote:Too soon, taqiya taqiya
For the uninitiated: Secularism == Hindu bashingAjayKK wrote: All in all, an intra-madrassa fight. The only point that we should note is that any intra-madrassa/group/sect/Soooofi fight is to be settled by each one calling themselves more secular and the other, communal; so that in the end secularism can be saved by evil evil conspirators. AoA to that ..
See Appendix G for the Draft Instrument of Accession. The J. P. C. Report stated : — "The rights, authority and jurisdiction which will be conferred by the Crown on the new Central Government will not extend to any Indian State. It follows that the accession of an Indian State to the Federation cannot take place other than by the voluntary act of its Ruler. The Constitution Act cannot itself make any Indian State a member of the Federation (Paragraph 154). It would, we think, be very desirable that the Instruments of Accession should in all cases be in the same form but there can be no obligation on the Crown to accept an accession, where the exceptions or reservations sought to be made by the Ruler are such as to make the accession illusory or merely colourable."
(Paragraph 156).
The clause in the Government of India Bill was the subject of considerable comment. "The Princes have all along looked upon the treaties of Accession as the really operative instruments binding them to the Federal Constitution, and not the Constitution Act, which, as an Act of Parliament, they cannot be expected to accept as binding on them or as applicable to their States and their subjects These treaties of Accession were intended to be bilateral in character creating rights and imposing reciprocal obligations both on the Rulers of Indian States and on the Crown." ( Vide Note attached to the letter His Excellency the Viceroy by Their Highnesses the Maharaja of Patiala, the Nawab of Bhopal, andthe Maharaja of Bikaner, dated the 27th February 1935).
In the same note Their Highnesses wrote : — " The documents of 1818, by which several States parted with their external and foreign relations in consideration of their being adequately protected from both foreign aggression and internal upheaval, were regarded as treaties of mutual friendship, amity and alliance. The proposed documents of 1935, by which the States are asked further to transfer some of their internal sovereignty as well to His Majesty the King as a result of proposals regarding Federation, are only to be Treaties of Accession. The Princes are asked to execute and sign these Instruments of Accession without regard to the derogation of their position from allies and absolute rulers in their own territories This undermining process is to be kept up and strengthened under the force of judge-made laws and new political theories, while reinforcing the claims of paramountcy by the same device. It is very natural that the Princes should have serious objections to the process of gradual decline in their political status. The Princes had only agreed to federate in the interests of the Empire. In conclusion it would be well to remember that the Princes had originally accepted the invitation to federate out of their anxious desire to be of service to the Empire. The structure of the Treaty of Accession ought to be well in keeping with the spirit that had induced the States to accept the federal scheme. " It is only natural to expect that this aspect will be given due weight and
importance when the reasonable reservations in the Instrument of Accession come up for examination.
Sir Samuel Iloare wrote iu his Memorandum to the Government of India dated the 4th March 1935: — "So far as The Government of India Act, 1935 regards the States, the Bill, when it has become law will provide the machinery whereby the Indian States may severally accept that Constitution and thus become part of the Federation, not because the Act is an Act of Parliament, but because it embodies a Constitution to which they have of their own volition acceded That the Constitutional structure must be accepted as a whole seems obvious It is contended that not only ought each ruler to be able to specify those sections of the Act which he is willing to accept, but also that the Federal
Constitution as regards each State is to be looked for exclusively in the Instrument of Accession of that State Such a conception of Federation would imply the possibility not only of different Constitutions for the States and for British India, but even of a variety of Constitutions among the States themselves Their Highnesses lay stress on what they describe as the bilateral nature of the Instruments of Accession. These Instruments are bilateral in so far as they have no binding force until His Majesty has signified his acceptacce of them; but His Majesty's Government cannot on that ground accept the view that they are to be described as 'treaties". Though the word 'treaty' is not used in S. 6 and only the words "Instrument of Accession" are used, the suggestions were partly accepted; and Clause 6 of the Bill was modified by the substitution of the words "accedes to the Federation as established under this Act" instead of the words "accepts this Act as applicable to his State and to his subjects." Again the words "by virtue of his Instrument of Accession, but subject always to the terms thereof, and for the purposes only of the Federation" are additions in Section 6 [1] (a); and the words " to the provisions of
the Act so far as they are applicable therein by virtue of his Instrument of Accession " instead of " to this Act " used in the Bill are also additions in Section 6 (1) (b) to make the
meaning clear. Sub-section (4) is also now.
Secularism is another name for obscurantism resulting in 'argumentative Indianism'ramana wrote:This is not secularism. Its obscruantism.
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It has often been pointed out, and rightly so, that the BJP has to expand beyond its traditional catchment area to emerge as a powerful challenger to the Congress at the national level. The political situation that obtained in 1996, 1998 and 1999, when the BJP crossed the threshold of critical mass to dislodge the Congress and form a coalition Government (the first lasted less than a fortnight, but strengthened the party enormously) does not exist today. The nature of politics has changed, as has the mode of mobilising support. It has to be also remembered that the dramatic rise of the BJP in the 1990s was directly proportionate to the equally dramatic collapse of the Congress. Ironically, between 2004 and 2009, the rise of the Congress has been proportionate to the collapse of the BJP.
It is no less ironical that the crisis of leadership that plagued and vastly weakened the Congress after the tragic assassination of Rajiv Gandhi till his widow stepped in to lead from the front also sapped the BJP of its life-force in the six years before Mr Nitin Gadkari took charge of the organisation. Squabbling leaders and listless cadre ensured the party’s defeat in the 2009 general election, as did the fact that it had no winning allies in the south or the east to boost the NDA’s tally. That the party managed to win more than 100 seats despite its uninspiring campaign crafted by too-clever-by-half darbaris and time-servers is a remarkable achievement.
With the law of diminishing returns having set in, the party’s harvest in Uttar Pradesh has been pathetic in successive elections; it’s unlikely to improve in the near future in the absence of able leaders with vision and capacity to deliver. The BJP has reached saturation point in Gujarat and any further gains can only be incremental since the Congress has been virtually decimated in that State by Mr Narendra Modi. Maharashtra continues to remain tantalisingly within reach yet elusive. In Bihar, the BJP and its ally, the JD(U), have carved up the State between themselves.
Given this scenario, frankly it’s a no-brainer to suggest that the path to resurrection as a powerful national political force lies through eastern and southern India. In any event, the BJP cannot expect to be taken seriously by people across the country unless it has representative from as many States as possible. Allies serve the purpose of adding to the electoral tally but they cannot become substitutes for the party. The BJP’s foray into the south with a spectacular victory in the last Assembly election in Karnataka had led to both hope and hype — for the first time the party had moved beyond the Hindi belt in such a striking manner. Unfortunately for the BJP, poor political management and avoidable controversies have marred that success story, leaving the party looking no different from others competing for power. Karnataka may yet hold, but it would be foolish for the BJP to look beyond that State in the south.
Which brings us to the east. The BJP has a fighting chance in Assam, provided it is able to enter into a durable alliance with the Asom Gana Parishad, something which remains to be signed, sealed and delivered. In Bihar the BJP can only aspire to hold on to the gains of this year’s Assembly election. That by itself would be sufficient. In Odisha, Mr Naveen Patnaik may finally choose to relent and re-enter into an alliance; till that happens, the BJP has a tough task ahead although, to its credit, the party has held on to its vote-share. The real growth area, therefore, is West Bengal where the party begins with a clean slate (if we were to keep aside the Lok Sabha seats it won between 1996 and 1999) and has a new, young and energetic leadership not burdened with baggage of the past. The collapse of the CPI(M)-led Left Front has been unexpectedly rapid, as has been the rise of the Trinamool Congress. As for the Congress, it doesn’t really matter except in certain pockets of north Bengal.
With a galvanised cadre — Mr Gadkari’s enthusiasm and energy are infectious; his constant emphasis on ground-level activism has restored what is referred to as good old-fashioned politics — and the opening up of electoral space, the West Bengal unit of the party has been slowly but steadily making its presence felt. Agitprop is a useful tool in West Bengal and the BJP has used it to its advantage. Ms Mamata Banerjee may have captured the popular imagination but that does not exclude the possibility of a new force competing for attention and votes. With the hegemony of the Left now more or less a thing of the past, the field may not be exactly level but it is now open to competitors representing all shades of politics.
This creates the possibility for the BJP, if it plays its cards well, to succeed in establishing itself as a serious competitor. The BJP must posit itself as a centre-right party with views markedly different from those of the Left and the Trinamool Congress which is busy positioning itself as ultra-Left. The BJP campaign that begins today, evocatively named Naba Jagaran Yatra — or New Awakening Yatra — could mark the party’s shift from the fringes to the centre of West Bengal politics. The Trinamool Congress’s campaign, based on the slogan ‘Ma-Maati-Manush’, the title of a popular jatra, may touch a sentimental chord with the masses, but it really means nothing more than what it say. It harks back to a past that West Bengal has long left behind. It doesn’t evoke bright images of a future steeped in hope.
On the other hand, ‘Naba Jagaran’ is more than a slogan. It is a reminder to Bengalis that there was a ‘Jagaran’ — the Awakening which the world came to recognise as the Bengal Renaissance — which propelled Bengal into the future when the rest of India was languishing in the past. That advantage was squandered by the Congress (of which the Trinamool is an offshoot) and the Left, which between themselves have ruined all that was good and noble about the State. What West Bengal needs today is a ‘New Awakening’ so that it can bravely meet the challenges and seize the opportunities of the future, and not mawkish slogans that recall a glorious past now preserved in outrageously priced woodcuts in fashionable art galleries.
Can the BJP succeed in achieving this goal? Yes, if it is able to offer an alternative vision based on an alternative ideology. This is by no means an easy task. In a sense, if the Left is booted out, as is widely expected, in this summer’s Assembly election, and the Trinamool Congress comes to power, then West Bengal will also witness what has been evocatively described as the ‘end of ideology’. It will also mark the beginning of a new era in the State’s politics where new ideologies can emerge. This, in turn, offers the BJP an opportunity to sail forth.
The Naba Jagaran Yatra will be indicative of whether the BJP can make use of that opportunity. Those interested in tracking the future politics of West Bengal should, therefore, track the fortnight long yatra of the BJP from Cooch Behar to Kolkata as it makes its way through the rural heartland and industrial wasteland of the State, sowing the seeds of a New Awakening. The fact that senior national leaders of the party will be leading the yatra and then congregate in Kolkata for a mass rally shows that the party has taken the initiative seriously. If the BJP could have crossed 10 per cent of the vote-share in West Bengal not many years ago, there is no reason why it cannot do so once again, this time with a new agenda for a new future.
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Empirically speaking it is a good sign
If there is a straight contest then there is a chance for Jaya to win. Othewise it will be same. DMK will even give 70 if Congress wants but congress's internal assesment is that they don't even have a structure or even candidates to contest beyond 70 seats. My guess is probably they will settle 55-60 seats.ramana wrote:How would the results be ?
Per Politics party
http://www.politicsparty.com/TAMIL_NADU ... S_2011.php
(1) DMK, INC and PMK, one of the Gondur (spelling?) parties are in alliance
(2) ADMK, Left, Vijay Kanth, Vaico, Kongu parites and another Gondur parties are on the otherside.
Technically ADMK is deperately trying to keep the contest straight. DMK chief is trying with extreme-desperation to make sure Vijaykanth goes alone.
DMK+INC game - (1) Make Vijaykanth go alone (2) Blunt the corruption tag by some tokenism (Raja's arrest) (3) DMK spent huge amounts of government money to keep a section of population in its fold. It has given direct cash to the tune of 20,000 rupees to poor during recent cycles. They are distributing pure cash to rural poor using every available schemes. (4)IMPORTANT - The loot is extremely lot and they will spend a substantial as bribing voters (they may set a record this time) (5) Use EVM manipulation in some booths.
Even if it is a straight contest, the expectation is that it will be extreme close contest. Corruption and other stuff will be blunted using sheer money power. DMK+INC is expected to get about 30% vote as a cakewalk. If they succeed in getting Vijaykant go alone that will be a bonus.
Raja's arrest will blunt the corruption image for the urban fence sitters.
RM bhai is right onlee judiciary is really effed up.The secular republic of India is all set to have its first Islamic bank.
The Kerala High Court on Thursday dismissed petitions challenging the Kerala government's decision to establish India's first Islamic Bank which will work on the principles of Shariah.
The order came from a Division Bench comprising Chief Justice J Chalameswar and Justice P R Ramachandra Menon, which rejected petitions filed by Janata Party President Subramaniam Swamy and another. The petitioners contended that the state establishing a bank which will work on the principles of a religion will violate the principle of secularism enshrined in the Constitution. However, the court did not agree.
Reacting to the HC verdict, Swamy said he will consider appealing to the Supreme Court after going through the full text. ``I will challenge the same if it was dismissed on merits,'' he said.
The state had first floated the idea of establishing the bank under an entity registered as Al-Baraka Financial Services way back in December 2009. The bank was also to have a body of Islamic scholars to advise whether the principles of shariah were being complied with.
But in January 2010, the HC stayed the government's plans and issued notices to the RBI, Finance Ministry and Kerala State Industries Development Corporation (KSIDC) which was to hold 11 percent equity in Al-Baraka.
The RBI replied that the current laws did not permit such a bank.
So when I say the CON morons and chamcha media members clean the toilets of the Gandhi dienasty, I am not far off.Rajasthan chief minister Ashok Gehlot on Wednesday asked minister of state for panchayati raj and waqf Amin Khan to resign for insinuating that President Prathiba Patil had curried favour with the Gandhi family. Some TV channels aired Khan's speech in which he said the President had done dishes and cooked food for former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in the late 1970s.
The truth is that he is not insulting her. He was pointing to facts. As a true slave of the dynasty, he considers that it is an honor to clean dishes and bath rooms of the dynasty. That is how you can become Presidents, CEC, CJ or CVS in this country.Khan said he did not mean disrespect to the President. "I was just trying to advise disgruntled Congress workers to work selflessly and be faithful and committed like Patil," he said. "What gain will I derive by hurting the President?" he asked. "I am sorry. Please consider it my mistake," he told TOI.
A survey conducted to gauge the mood of the electorate in Uttar Pradesh has shaken up the top leadership of Congress like never before. The writing is on the wall: the Congress will hopelessly lose Uttar Pradesh to Mayawati.
If elections are held today, Mayawati will become chief minister again with a larger majority.
In a likely repeat of Bihar, the Congress party is poised to drop to single digit with an all time low figure of 9 seats out of 405 in the UP assembly elections, scheduled to be held in 2012, according to a comprehensive survey commissioned by the party. Uttar Pradesh, the most crucial state for the Congress and the Gandhi family, is showing radical preferences.
In spite of party general secretary Digvijay Singh's hyper activism to create a loyal Muslim vote bank for the party, Muslims in UP seem to have decided to ditch Congress en-masse. In spite of Rahul Gandhi's frequent visits to Dalit homes, they are just not ready to ditch Maywati yet.
In sharp contrast, the survey says that Mayawati's Bahujan Samaj Party is set to increase its tally and will notch up 263 seats in the 405-seat assembly.
Off the record, the results of a survey commissioned by the party in January 2011 have come as a huge shock to Rahul Gandhi, said sources in the party.
While the survey shows the Congress slipping to fourth position, the Bharatiya Janata Party is at the second position with 72 seats while the Samajwadi party is at 40 seats -- but only if it has an alliance with Ajit Singh's Rashtriya Lok Dal, which is at 13 seats, bettering even the Congress party's tally.
The survey cites a number of reasons for the poor performance of the Congress.
A prominent reason is the Ayodhya judgement, which has made a negative impact on the Congress base as the Muslims appear to have deserted the party and thrown their weight behind Mayawati. While her Brahmin and Harijan votes are intact as of now, she may get more Muslim votes than she got the last time around.
The second key factor for the party doing badly is the lack of a leader, someone who can be projected at the polls and who can become the visible face of the party as is the case with Mayawati or SP chief Mulayam Singh Yadav.
The survey states that the BJP may get stronger because the Rajput, Kurmi and Bania communities may gravitate towards it and the party may project Murli Manohar Joshi as the chief minister. The Brahmins may also favour the BJP.
GD is referring to Dr Artiste i think.Marten wrote: Yes, until the MNS grows up. That is probably 5 years away. In any case, the Bhajapa will not come to power in Mah unless it moves away from the SS or figures out a way of getting both MNS and SS on its platform. If that doesn't happen, it's almost guaranteed that the Italian Nondenominational Chors will firmly remain in the saddle. There is no alternative, onlee!
ET 18 Feb '11Setback to Cong in By-Elections
BJP wrests Kukshi and Sonkatch seats in Madhya Pradesh from Congress
(Now we know why doggy was barking so hard attneding jirgas and passing non-sense comments, but you failed, o loyal ! )
The Congress’ run of electoral setbacks continued in the latest round of assembly bypolls spread across five states --with the party conceding two seats which had been seen as its strongholds in Madhya Pradesh, including the one held by Leader of the Opposition Jamuna Devi -- to the BJP, besides losing in Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Gujarat and Manipur.
While the BJP retained Khadia (Gujarat), Kharsawan (Jharkhand) and Sanjari Balod (Chhattisgarh), it wrested Kukshi and Sonkatch from the Congress in Madhya Pradesh. In the northeast, the Konthoujam assembly seat in Manipur was snatched from the Congress by its alliance partner, Trinamool Congress.
While by-poll verdicts are not exactly the right barometer of popular mood, and are guided more by local factors, (only if congress loses, if it wins, it is always a victory of (p)secular forces hain na?) the Congress’ defeat in the latest round of electoral battles in the five states should serve as a warning to the party leadership. The Congress failed to retain its tradition strongholds of Kukshi and Sonkatch, ceding them to its traditional rival, the BJP.
The defeat in the Kukshi assembly segment, which falls in the Dhar district, was particularly embarrassing for the Congress as it had been winning it without any break for the last 25 years. The seat had fallen vacant because of the demise of Jamuna Devi.
The BJP’s nominee, Mukam Singh Kirade, husband of state minister Ranjana Singh Baghel, vanquished his Congress rival Nisha Singhar, who’s the late Jamuna Devi’s niece, by a margin of over 16,000 votes.
The Sonkatch assembly seat too had come to be seen as a Congress backyard over the years. It had fallen vacant following Sajjan Singh Verma’s elevation to the Lok Sabha in May, 2009. The seat was wrested by the BJP’s Rajendra Verma, who defeated Congress’ Arjun Verma by over 19,000 votes. The saffron party’s victory came after a gap of 15 years.
In Kharsawan in Jharkhand, Chief Minister Arjun Munda had a relatively smooth sailing as he outwitted the JVM’s Dashrath Krishna Gagrai. The assembly segment has in the past sent Munda several times to the assembly, and his win in the by-election comes as no surprise. Munda will now have to vacate the Jamshedpur Lok Sabha constituency, which was won by him in the 2009 general election. The BJP, however, did not exactly have a cakewalk in Khadia, the assembly segment falling in Ahmedabad in Gujarat, which had turned into an impregnable saffron fortress in the last 25 years.
The seat was won by the BJP’s Bhushan Bhatt, but the margin was a disappointing 2,473 votes. Bhushan’s father, Ashok Bhatt, a party stalwart, had made it a habit of winning from the constituency (but jumna devi did not, coult not cultivate as a habit so her niece lost! How much do you get for writing such reports journos?), located in the heart of the city. The senior Bhatt was the state assembly’s speaker, and passed away late last year following a protracted ailment.
In Chhattisgarh, the ruling party’s Kumari Bai Sahu retained the Sanjari Balod constituency by defeating Congress’ Mohan Patel by a margin of 9,500 votes.
