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Aditya_V wrote:Chiron _> source for saying where Vishnu dies?
Srimad-Bhagvatam. Give me some time to quote the verse, as I do not have the book available right now... If you have Bhagvat at your disposal, search for Param-Mahan attribute of Brahman. It is somewhere around that.

The crux is, nothing except parabrahman is eternal. everything else has its age and then it dies and new one replaces it.

Interestingly, the proposed ages of electron and proton are exactly same as that of a Brahmadev and a Vishnu, respectively.. interesting coincidence.. :)
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brihaspati wrote: Another is here:
http://www.worldwar3.co.in/


This one, is in chaste Pingreji the web master says he is retired Engineer,
by the Pingreji it seems he graduated from LMU faculty of Engineering.
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Carl Sagan video on Bharatiya cosmology. Old one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGBV7Gi7 ... r_embedded
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Chiron-> Per the parts of Bhavagvatam with translations I have read Parabrahman is Vishnu or Narayana himself
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X-posted from nukkad...
RamaY wrote:Xposted there Ramanaji...

I was not sure where it belongs.

I extrapolated SriChakra to the corruption problem, in the hope that it might trigger some creative solutions. Elders say SriChakra is the architectural blue print of this creation, with Bindu at the center being the nirguna param brahma (shiva+shakti). As one moves outward new gunas are added and at the end of the chakra is where the seeker stands with all his jnanendriayas, karmendriays, manas, mind, intellect so on..

similarly any system as it extends will invite some form of aberration (corruption). And that doesn’t mean the sanctity of the centre (or the idea of the nation/civilization) can be questioned. The right solution could be to increase the awareness of the society to just one or two levels where the certain gunas (worldly desires) are overcame, then the society will reap the benefits of that system. I was talking about the Adhi-devata of each triangle at each level in Sri Chakra.

Don’t know if it makes sense… but I think all these things are interlinked at some level of consciousness.

You know someone else told me similar things a couple of years ago and that massa people are trying to figure out what all the esoteric things mean.

Can you give an idea of Sri Chakra and any reading links to understand?
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Ramanaji

Can you read Telugu? I have a good version of Saundarya Lahari which explaines the concept.

At high level (this is a image from Shri Yukteswar's Holy Science book)

Level 1 - Physical Body - Akasa, Marut, Tej, Ap, Kshiti
Level 2 - Astral Body - Karmendriyas, Jnanedriyas, Tanmatras (~16?)
Gunas - Sattva, Rajas, Tamas
Level 3 - Causal Body - Pancha Tattva
Buddhi-Chitta-Ego-Manas
Four Ideas - Om, Kal, Desa, Anu - Leads to Maya - From there Ananda
Four Purushas - Sons of God - Leads to Kutastha Chaitanya - From there to Chit
Connecting those Ananda and Chit - one reaches to Sat.
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Continuing discussion on Tantra here..
Great audio recording on Tantraloka
http://markdkashi.com/files/Sources%20o ... raloka.mp3

Tantrāloka is the masterwork of Abhinavagupta, who was in turn the most revered Kashmir Shaivism master. On account of its size and scope it is a veritable encyclopedia of nondual Shaivism, a treasure text containing the synthesis of the 64 monistic āgamas and all the schools of Kashmir Shaivism. The work contains both ritualistic and philosophic aspects, spanning over 37 chapters.
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Chiron,
I have an abiding interest in the theology and theism of the Bhagavatha.While the interpretation you have given is legitimate(Sat alone is true) the Vaishnava intrepretations which are held dearly by devotees are valid as well.

The 'death' you ascribe to Lord Vishnu 'should' have been avoided.I think such a rendering would be hardly faithful to the central idea of Bhakthi to Krishna in a purana whose setting is Vedanta and Vaishnava.

The theology of Madhvas,SriVaishnavas,Gaudiyas differ.

SriVaishnavas see the Supreme as Narayana,the Creator.
Madhvas emphasise Hari,the Redeemer.
Gaudiyas see Krishna the Personification of Love as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
There are subtle differences in the nomenclature of Vishnu,Narayana,Hari,Krishna as the Creator,Redeemer,Protector.But all revere the name of Vishnu,Narayana,Hari as either the Supreme or the Emanations of Supreme(as in Gaudiya tradition).The Advaita Vedantins might not care much for such fine hair splitting but they fully respect all these as the search and yearning of the Jiva.

'Death' to the loving Lord who sustains and liberates the jiva(through Bhakthi and Jnana in the unique way of Bhagavatha,I am not debating on the nature of Moksha,it means nothing to me in my present state) would not be compatible with the spirit of Bhagavatha.

You might argue with some justification that the Brahmam of Bhagavatha is not Vishnu who kills the Asuras,but the numerous hymns starting from Kunti to Dhruva to Prahlada to Gajendra clearly state that the Supreme who is beyond Gunas and who is meditated upon by Yogis is always breaking through in this world protecting the righteous and destroying evil.

The Supreme in the Vedantic sense cannot be restricted to the Splendid Divine Manifestations in Vaikunta(beyond Space and Time) or in Kshirasagara(as the Creator of the Universe in this cycle)but still it is this Form that is constantly meditated upon by devotees.

To a devotee(like Aditya who could be a scientist or engineer),'death' would be irreverent,blasphemous or meaningless in the context of faith.

The Supreme is the Creator,Preserver,Redeemer,Guru( in human form).It cannot be limited in any sense would be the spirit rather in denying the beautiful Roopa meditated by devotees.

Needless to say this is my viewpoint which I have gleaned from JnanaDeva(Haripaath),Sri Ramakrishna,Sri Ramana.
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Krishnapremi ji,

I respect your world-view. I was simply stating the literal interpretation. What fascinated me most was the similarity of age of brahmadeva and vishnu with proposed "ages" of electron and proton respectively. Indics were not uncomfortable in contemplating on the fact that universe is infinite and place of humanity in it was insignificant. This humbleness of Indic Dharma is what attracted me.

Also, sat is said to be non-existent before creation. There was no sat nor there was asat. What was there, we don't know. This is the tone of Nasadiya sukta, which again lures me for similar reasons.

The paths which you described in your post fall under Dvaita-Vedanta. Although in past millenia, this has been the most popular Moksha-Maarga amongst Indic people, one must also consider what is the stand of other Moksha-Maargas.

Other paths are Saamkhya, Yoga, Nyaya, Mimamsa (Both purva and uttara), Vaisheshika, Vedanta (Advait, vishishtadvait, dvait), Bauddha, Jaina, Sikh, Charvaka, Ajivika, Tantra and others...

Within Dvaita Vedanta, we have Vaishnava, Shaiva, Gaanapatya, Shaakta (worshippers of shakti) all of them upholding their deity as supreme manifestation of Sat (truth). You gave the Vaishnava argument of "Sat".

I personally follow (at this stage of my life) a path which is mixture of Saamkhya and Yoga with hint of Advaita Vedanta (whereby I consider Kaivalya (Singularity) of Patanjali as "Sat"). Due to this minimalistic approach, I have so far been successful in following a path which is rare today Aastika Nirishwarvaad (Aastika Atheism). Because in this path, there is no real need of an "Ishwara" OR "God". Although I have not attained enlightenment and do not claim the path as supreme. But I think the goal is same (dissolution of ego) of all the Moksha-Margas in Indic system.

Regarding the "death of vishnu"; it is given in srimad-bhagvatam. Of course, I respect Vaishnava interpretations, although I do not agree with them and I apologise for hurting the sentiments. I just wrote what I read. I did not mean to hurt.

Your viewpoint (along with Shaiva) is the most potent world-view in order to have a stable social order. Saamkhya-Yoga can never be a mainstream path, Vaishnava and Shaiva can and were. Hence from anthropological point of view, the dvaita system is the most successful meme at least since the advent of Abrahamic religions and even before that (Guptas were Vaishnavas). And I value this meme and revere it.

From strictly academic PoV, however, Sat is attributeless. Others may try to apply the adage of "Sat" to their revered dieties; I prefer calling Sat as Sat OR Brahman instead of saving any particular deity is "Tvameva pratyaksham Brahmaasi; tvameva pratyaksham brahma vadishyami, satyam vadishyami". This is not in disagreement with "Sarvam Khalu idam Brahma". but still.. :)
Aditya_V wrote:Chiron-> Per the parts of Bhavagvatam with translations I have read Parabrahman is Vishnu or Narayana himself
Aditya ji,

Please give me some time, I shall quote the verse. You are correct in observing that in Bhagvatam, Narayana is Brahman himself. I again ask people here who have access to the book to search for Param-Mahan.
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Chiron,
I have no problem with any world view.That is for each indvidual to decide.Yes the ancients were not tied to any 'system' or 'faith'.

But I have a problem with attributing to Bhagavatha the 'death' of Vishnu.The Bhagavatha is unique(not in the sense of exalted over everything else) in its mix of Bhakthi and Jnana.It preaches no sectarian vaishnavism in its eclectic vision yet the 'death' of Vishnu is jarring.

More correct version would be that the Supreme manifests as multiple deities though the Bhagavatha has a special place for the Preserver/Redeemer.It is in times of distress that most men(not all) make a searching enquiry of themselves and the world around them.They pray for deliverance from the immediate ills and also seek the 'permanent' remedy.Hence the importance of Avataras which protect righteous men but also chart out the contours of righteousness(karma/Dharma),Punishment/Protection,Salvation(with complex philosophies,theologies/preceptors including Jnana margas.The Bhagavatha includes avataras like Kapila,Bharatha who are preceptors).They are all identified with Vishnu who stabilises social order and 'delivers' salvation.

I have said enough.
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Chiron-> It might help that next clearly state that in Advaita interpretations or as per Advaitic tradition. Saying that Srimad Bhagvatam categorically states Vishnu will die is incorrect, you could rather say as per Advaitic interpretation so and so verse that Vishnu dies, if that is your belief .

Krishnapremi-> I am just an accountant, neither scientist nor engineer but would like to think I fall in the school of Bhakti or Vaishnava tradition.
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X-posted...
Muppalla wrote:Yoga at the speed of Light

Linda Johnsen Courtesy & copyright Yoga International
It is amazing how much Western science has taught us. Today, for example, kids in grammar school learn that the sun is 93 million miles from the earth and that the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Yoga may teach us about our Higher Self, but it can't supply this kind of information about physics or astronomy.

Or can it? Professor Subhash Kak of Louisiana State University recently called my attention to a remarkable statement by Sayana, a fourteenth century Indian scholar. In his commentary on a hymn in the Rig Veda, the oldest and perhaps most mystical text ever composed in India, Sayana has this to say: "With deep respect, I bow to the sun, who travels 2,202 yojanas in half a nimesha."

A yojana is about nine American miles; a nimesha is 16/75 of a second. Mathematically challenged readers, get out your calculators!

2,202 yojanas x 9 miles x 75/8 nimeshas = 185,794 m.p.s.


Basically, Sayana is saying that sunlight travels at 186,000 miles per second! How could a Vedic scholar who died in 1387 A.D. have known the correct figure for the speed of light? If this was just a wild guess it's the most amazing coincidence in the history of science!

The yoga tradition is full of such coincidences. Take for instance the mala many yoga students wear around their neck. Since these rosaries are used to keep track of the number of mantras a person is repeating, students often ask why they have 108 beads instead of 100. Part of the reason is that the mala represent the ecliptic, the path of the sun and moon across the sky. Yogis divide the ecliptic into 27 equal sections called nakshatras, and each of these into four equal sectors called paadas, or "steps," marking the 108 steps that the sun and moon take through heaven.

Each is associated with a particular blessing force, with which you align yourself as you turn the beads.

Traditionally, yoga students stop at the 109th "guru bead," flip the mala around in their hand, and continue reciting their mantra as they move backward through the beads. The guru bead represents the summer and winter solstices, when the sun appears to stop in its course and reverse directions. In the yoga tradition we learn that we're deeply interconnected with all of nature. Using a mala is a symbolic way of connecting ourselves with the cosmic cycles governing our universe.

But Professor Kak points out yet another coincidence: The distance between the earth and the sun is approximately 108 times the sun's diameter. The diameter of the sun is about 108 times the earth's diameter. And the distance between the earth and the moon is 108 times the moon's diameter.

Could this be the reason the ancient sages considered 108 such a sacred number? If the microcosm (us) mirrors the macrocosm (the solar system), then maybe you could say there are 108 steps between our ordinary human awareness and the divine light at the center of our being. Each time we chant another mantra as our mala beads slip through our fingers, we are taking another step toward our own inner sun.

As we read through ancient Indian texts, we find so much the sages of antiquity could not possibly have known-but did. While our European and Middle Eastern ancestors claimed that the universe was created about 6,000 years ago, the yogis have always maintained that our present cosmos is billions of years old, and that it's just one of many such universes which have arisen and dissolved in the vastness of eternity.

In fact the Puranas, encyclopedias of yogic lore thousands of years old, describe the birth of our solar system out of a "milk ocean," the Milky Way. Through the will of the Creator, they tell us, a vortex shaped like a lotus arose from the navel of eternity. It was called Hiranya Garbha, the shining womb. It gradually coalesced into our world, but will perish some day billions of years hence when the sun expands to many times it present size, swallowing all life on earth. In the end, the Puranas say, the ashes of the earth will be blown into space by the cosmic wind. Today we known this is a scientifically accurate, if poetic, description of the fate of our planet.

The Surya Siddhanta is the oldest surviving astronomical text in the Indian tradition. Some Western scholars date it to perhaps the fifth or sixth centuries A.D., though the next itself claims to represent a tradition much, much older. It explains that the earth is shaped like a ball, and states that at the very opposite side of the planet from India is a great city where the sun is rising at the same time it sets in India. In this city, the Surya Siddhanta claims, lives a race of siddhas, or advanced spiritual adepts. If you trace the globe of the earth around to the exact opposite side of India, you'll find Mexico. Is it possible that the ancient Indians were well aware of the great sages/astronomers of Central America many centuries before Columbus discovered America?- the M! ayans or Inca-s!!!

Knowing the unknowable: To us today it seems impossible that the speed of light or the fate of our solar system could be determined without advanced astronomical instruments. -as Sanjee argues!!

How could the writers of old Sanskrit texts have known the unknowable? In searching for an explanation we first need to understand that these ancient scientists were not just intellectuals, they were practicing yogis. The very first lines of the Surya Siddhanta, for of the Golden Age a great astronomer named Maya desired to learn the secrets of the heavens, so he first performed rigorous yogic practices. Then the answers to his questions appeared in his mind in an intuitive flash.

Does this sound unlikely? Yoga Sutra 3:26-28 states that through, samyama (concentration, meditation, and unbroken mental absorption) on the sun, moon, and pole star, we can gain knowledge of the planets and stars. Sutra 3:33 clarifies, saying: "Through keenly developed intuition, everything can be known." Highly developed intuition is called pratibha in yoga. It is accessible only to those who have completely stilled their mind, focusing their attention on one object with laser-like intensity. Those who have limited their mind are no longer limited to the fragments of knowledge supplied by the five senses. All knowledge becomes accessible to them.

"There are [those] who would say that consciousness, acting on itself, can find universal knowledge," Professor Kak admits. "In fact this is the traditional Indian view."

Perhaps the ancient sages didn't need advanced astronomical instruments. After all, they had yoga.

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Recently I came across a book called "Vashista Darshana". It talks about the universe, multiverse etc in detail.
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Recently I came across a book called "Vashista Darshana". It talks about the universe, multiverse etc in detail.
How to own a copy of it?.
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gandharva wrote:
Recently I came across a book called "Vashista Darshana". It talks about the universe, multiverse etc in detail.
How to own a copy of it?.
Check NatarajBooks.com and look for VISION AND THE WAY OF VASISTHA. Original Text, Translations of the Sanskrit Verses into Enlgish. by B. L. Atreya.
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Yes gandharva-ji. Look in the chapter 2.III.
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Can you comment on the seven heavens and patalas? I think the West took the idea of seventh heaven form us.
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Thanks Rama Ji. If you like that than you should not miss this old translation of Yoga Vashistha Laghu.

http://www.archive.org/details/yogavasi ... 00aiyeuoft
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Can you comment on the seven heavens and patalas? I think the West took the idea of seventh heaven form us.
We all know about famous seven Chakras of Conciousness as described in Yoga texts. We also, know that when one reaches seventh chakra, he reaches the seat of "Brahmn"i.e. thousand petaled lotus . Given that i never doubted the experince claimed by the prophets of the "One True God" I always looked of for their place on the map of the Yoga. But i never came across any reference to the "One True God" of two dominant religions of the current era in Yogic texts. Looks like as there are seven Chakras above the Muladhar, there are seven below the Muladhar as well and here we can see the fertile land for the occurance of the "One True God".


http://veda.wikidot.com/the-chakras

The Seven Sub-Muladhara Regions
Atala: The first lower chakra, located in the hips, governs the state of mind called fear, which is truly a bottomless abyss. Someone in this consciousness fears death, fears life, even fears God and other people. This center is also the home of lust and promiscuity.

Vitala: Here anger predominates, and burning resentment. Anger comes from despair, confusion, frustration or lack of understanding. People in the consciousness of this chakra, centered in the thighs, are always wrathful, mad at the world, even angry at God.

Sutala: This chakra, found in the knees, governs jealousy, wanting what one can't have. Jealousy is a feeling of inadequacy, inferiority and helplessness. People in sutala consciousness covet everything, often deny the existence of God and are contentiously combative.

Talatala: Prolonged confusion dominates here, giving rise to instinctive willfulness: to get rather than give, to push others around and pursue materialistic advancement over all else. Greed and deceit prevail in this dog-eat-dog state of mind, centered in the calves.

Rasatala: This chakra of the ankles is the true home of the animal nature. Unmitigated selfishness prevails, of seeing to the well-being of "number one" first. The suffering of others is of no concern. Jealousy, anger and fear are intense, even high, states of consciousness.

Mahatala: This is the realm of consciencelessness, or inner blindness to the effect of one's actions, of negativity and deep depression. Those living in this chakra of the feet steal freely, taking what they justify as theirs anyway, feeling that the world "owes them a living."

Patala: Here, in the soles of the feet, is the abode of destructiveness, revenge, murder for the sake of murder, torture and hatred expressed through harming the properties, minds, emotions and bodies of others. Hatred and scorn abide here. Malice reigns supreme. Reason seldom reaches this state of mind.

This is the story of our evolution through the mind—from the gross to the refined, from darkness into light, from a consciousness of death to immortality. We follow a natural pattern that is built right in the nerve system itself: memory; reason; will; direct cognition; inner light perceptions of the soul which give a universal love of all mankind; psychic perceptions through divine sight; and the heavenly refinement of being in the thousand-petaled lotus.
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Kalki is said to fight a buddhist only in name nation.
Given the moves, it seems awfully close to coming true
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ramana Can you comment on the seven heavens and patalas? I think the West took the idea of seventh heaven form us.

Per the Bhagvatam translations I have read, in this universe, there are 7 upper planetary systems with Brahma's Satyaloka as the Highest.

In pranayama,- it goes Om Bhuhu, Om Bhuvaha, Om Suvaha,Om Mahaha, Om Janaha, Om Tapaha, Ohum Satyam represent these planetary systems.

There are 7 lower planetery systems with Rastala the lowest. Apart from these there are 21 hells where punishment will be given based on your crime.
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RamaY et all here is link to e-books on India

http://2020ok.com/4895.htm
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Thank you Ramana-ji.

As always pranaamams to you.
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If not posted earlier -Here is Sri Lakshmi Narasimha stotram with meaning and Youtube video song. I do not know if there are Narsimha temples outside AP but there are few very famous temples in AP and I beleive there may be one or two in Orissa as well.

http://www.hindudevotionalblog.com/2008 ... lamba.html

The reason for posting this one is because I learnt this one as part of the sanskrit classes that I took when I was kid. However, very few know this stotra which is surprising because it is such a dedicated one specific to Narasimha avatar. Off cource Narasimha avtar is vishnu and hence vishnu related stotras etc are rendered as part of the routine.
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KaranR wrote:Manu, whose code is the oldest written law, says, II. 20,
—The people of the world, —the Brahmanas, Kshatriyas. Vaishyas and Shudras, Dasyus and Malekshas,—learn their professions, man¬ners, and customs and study sciences and arts with the Brahmins or learned men of this country. Thus the authority of Aryavarta was supreme over all the kingdoms of the earth upto Emperor Yudhister's celebration of universal rejoicings (rajsuya yajna) and the Mahabharta (Great War, 5000 years ago). For, we read in the Mahabharta that King Bhagdattaof China, King Babruwahana of America, King Vidalaksha with cat-like eyes of Europe, the King of Greece, King Shalya of Persia and the like kings came to join in the Great War and Emperor Yudhister's feast of paramount-cy. ........
Even in Ramayan, Sugreeva mentions many places well beyond present-day geographical-India and they are related to Vedas and Indic roots.

Perhaps B-ji has been right all along when he used to say about Indic-roots of this nation and that nation, to the amusement of some posters.
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KaranR wrote:
Manu, whose code is the oldest written law, says, II. 20,
—The people of the world, —the Brahmanas, Kshatriyas. Vaishyas and Shudras, Dasyus and Malekshas,—learn their professions, man¬ners, and customs and study sciences and arts with the Brahmins or learned men of this country. Thus the authority of Aryavarta was supreme over all the kingdoms of the earth upto Emperor Yudhister's celebration of universal rejoicings (rajsuya yajna) and the Mahabharta (Great War, 5000 years ago). For, we read in the Mahabharta that King Bhagdattaof China, King Babruwahana of America, King Vidalaksha with cat-like eyes of Europe, the King of Greece, King Shalya of Persia and the like kings came to join in the Great War and Emperor Yudhister's feast of paramount-cy. ........


Even in Ramayan, Sugreeva mentions many places well beyond present-day geographical-India and they are related to Vedas and Indic roots.

Perhaps B-ji has been right all along when he used to say about Indic-roots of this nation and that nation, to the amusement of some posters.
Which Manu Smiriti is this ?. I see one here http://books.google.com/books?id=Yu2KQ39_aLgC&oe=UTF-8 and i don't find the above quote.
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Muppalla wrote:If not posted earlier -Here is Sri Lakshmi Narasimha stotram with meaning and Youtube video song. I do not know if there are Narsimha temples outside AP but there are few very famous temples in AP and I beleive there may be one or two in Orissa as well.

http://www.hindudevotionalblog.com/2008 ... lamba.html
There are a few Narasimha temples in North Tamilnadu.Sholinghar,Singaperumalkoil,Parikal(near Villupuram),Pazhaya Seevaram(near Chengalpattu) come to mind.
There are Narasimha shrines in many Vishnu temples.
Narasimha is worshipped in Karnataka as well.There are a few temples I know there.
There was a famous temple for Sri Narasimha in Multan in Punjab.
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Ghati Subramanya temple has a unique idol of Lord Subramanya and Vasuki in front and Lord Narasimha in the back. There is a mirror on the wall, which allows devotees darshan of Lord Narasimha.
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The ugra narasimha temple in Hampi, karnataka is from the vijayanagara era and is beautiful! One has to see it to appreciate it!

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RaviBg wrote:The ugra narasimha temple in Hampi, karnataka is from the vijayanagara era and is beautiful! One has to see it to appreciate it!

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indeed, lived in Hospet for a while...the whole town is amazing; the shiva linga, musical pillars, saaswe ganapati!
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I am told that 'Arjuna' is also known as 'Sabyasachi' (ambidextrous) in Baanglaa , can learned ones throw more light on this ? I could not recollect any reference to above in Mahabharata (book or even in tele serial)
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I think 10 names are given by Arjuna himself as proof of identity in Virata Parva. Sabyasachi occurs here.
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I read 'sankshipta Mahabharatha' std. NCERT issue. :oops:
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negi wrote:I am told that 'Arjuna' is also known as 'Sabyasachi' (ambidextrous) in Baanglaa , can learned ones throw more light on this ? I could not recollect any reference to above in Mahabharata (book or even in tele serial)
It is actually savyasachi, a sanskrit word. As "va" becomes "ba" in bengali, its bengali form is sabyasachi. Krishna also calls him savysachi in Bhagavad Gita. One link is provided here. Search for savyasachi on the web and you can find references to it in Mahabharatha and Bhagavad Gita.
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Was it Arjuna who could use two bows simultaneously and shoot arrows? Or was that Ekalvya or Karna? I vaguely remember the person having the ability to hold one end of the bow by his toes and use the two hands to string the bow and shoot arrows.
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^ Where was this ? (book/serial/movie ) for I remember having read about a story in school about an African kid killing a wild boar by using the bow in above fashion ( I guess you can draw a far heavier bow using this technique , but obviously requires skill to maintain accuracy).

--Ah I mistook stringing the bow for drawing ; yes a heavy longbow is strung by actually keeping the lower end on ground and stiff by foot and using one hand to bend the bow while other to tie the string at the upper end.
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SwamyG wrote:Was it Arjuna who could use two bows simultaneously and shoot arrows?
I would be surprised if anyone could.
Or was that Ekalvya or Karna? I vaguely remember the person having the ability to hold one end of the bow by his toes and use the two hands to string the bow and shoot arrows.
That is how they were said to restring their bow and the speed was supposed to be such that before the otherguy could shoot his next arrow, he was ready.

Arjuna's bow, Gandiva ,iirc could not be broken. The max the other guy could do was break its string and thus the ability to restring it at a fast pace meant his bow could never be damaged.
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RaviBg ji,
in that case wouldnt the correct version be "wa" (uaw) and not "va" - as both exist in Sanskrit and are distinct? It should phonetically be closer to "Sa[wa-ya]sachi"? I guess, "va" should be taken as "wa" while actual "va" is usurped by "bh".
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As for Arjuna and bow - remember he also had to shoot from a moving chariot. They might not have had shock absorbers then. So resting one end of the bow on the floor of the moving chariot could be disastrous. Actually raising it from the floor on arms will have a kind of shock absorbing effect and gain in accuracy.

Gandib could not have been very long if made out of horns only. More modern horn bows are small. But in reality the horn aspect could be an allusion to the way multi-layered composite bows were actually made. Here flattened pieces of the horn would be used within layers. Central Asian horn included composite/reverse bows are compact small and typically meant for firing while on the move or on horseback.
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