Bharat Rakshak

Neela wrote:Is it only me who thinks Rishi is there to get over the economic hump. And is likely to be flushed off once stability returns?

Possible fall-guy as well if the Tories lose the next general elections to Labour. Perhaps why BoJo sat this one out, among other reasons

nandakumar wrote: There is a reason why public baths were a common feature in the 19th Century. The English simply didn't believe in daily bathing. James Clavell's novel, Taipan had one of the characters cursing about the oppressive humidity of the tropics. His antagonist had adapted by having a daily bath and clothing himself in light silks!

Europeans in general and Brits in particular had poor body hygiene. We had to export concepts like daily brushing, daily bathing, soaps and shampoos to them. To compensate for it, they called Indians smelly. They're a truly stinking bunch, in more ways than one.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/w ... 84060.html

Atmavik wrote:I often wonder what drives the likes of this Pankaj Mishra? They want to be praised by the woke gora crowd ??

Basically a need to be accepted as part of the white social elite, which basically means he gets treated as one of them most of the time he is in their company. The chap also married, or had a dalliance with, some minor royal so added credentials, etc.

Other than that a totally self-hating sharticle.

kit wrote:


https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/w ... 84060.html

In 2010, Anand Mahindra had donated $10 million to set up the Mahindra Humanities Center at Harvard


Harvard University’s Mahindra Humanities Centre was one of the co-sponsors of the event ‘Dismantling Global Hindutva conference’ a 3-day conference co sponsored by Departments from 45 odd ameriki and other gora Universities

Despite an outcry on SM, why was he silent then, and why is the turd opening his hole now.

he is not some ignorant pup who does not know what "Humanities Centers", the world over do. why did he not donate to "agriculture centers" or something more honest, transparent and upfront...

and yes, before someone points it out, I know that it is his money....

But no matter how one slices it, running with the hare and hunting with the hounds is hypocrisy

Such large donations are usually made to assure a seat for one's progeny or close family, besides the "honour" being called for giving a speech once or twice. Mahindra has some business interests in the US for his tractors and "jeeps", such donations are PR soft bribes as well. But the harm these endowed chairs and donations (many are not made public) do is being more and more criticised so hopefully Indian rich class will stop this practice.

Cyrano wrote:Such large donations are usually made to assure a seat for one's progeny or close family, besides the "honour" being called for giving a speech once or twice. Mahindra has some business interests in the US for his tractors and "jeeps", such donations are PR soft bribes as well. But the harm these endowed chairs and donations (many are not made public) do is being more and more criticised so hopefully Indian rich class will stop this practice.

+1

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2019/1 ... e-schools/

It starts with progeny, market access in terms quid pro quo people connections etc...and ends up in public groveling like Infosys you know who.

Kaivalya wrote:

Cyrano wrote:Such large donations are usually made to assure a seat for one's progeny or close family, besides the "honour" being called for giving a speech once or twice. Mahindra has some business interests in the US for his tractors and "jeeps", such donations are PR soft bribes as well. But the harm these endowed chairs and donations (many are not made public) do is being more and more criticised so hopefully Indian rich class will stop this practice.

+1

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2019/1 ... e-schools/

It starts with progeny, market access in terms quid pro quo people connections etc...and ends up in public groveling like Infosys you know who.

many of the gen next progeny of the families of big industrialists, politicos, erstwhile royalty et al are usually duds.

like some one said, "the only way he/she will get into harvard med school is if he donates his/her body" and that is the actual status of of many of these pappus.

So, a nice tax deductible big bucks donation to some prestigious gora univ, meaning that the cost is ultimately borne by the the common man who has been diddled out of the tax monies that should have rightfully accrued to the exchequer, by some really creative accounting procedures.

This is the best way for many of such these "bertie wooster" neo gen pappus to latch on to a prestigious "degree certificate" and also line up a huge dowry paying bride to boot. This is this a multi purpose "donation", serving many functions.

do you think the original pappu would have ever made it to st stephens, or the harvard university, or trinity college, cambridge under his own steam.....

some "bertie wooster" even got bailed out from the legitimate clutches of the FBI by ABA and brajesh mishra after desperate pleas for help from his family

Prem Kumar wrote:

nandakumar wrote: There is a reason why public baths were a common feature in the 19th Century. The English simply didn't believe in daily bathing. James Clavell's novel, Taipan had one of the characters cursing about the oppressive humidity of the tropics. His antagonist had adapted by having a daily bath and clothing himself in light silks!

Europeans in general and Brits in particular had poor body hygiene. We had to export concepts like daily brushing, daily bathing, soaps and shampoos to them. To compensate for it, they called Indians smelly. They're a truly stinking bunch, in more ways than one.

This is very true. Swami Vivekananda's travel memoirs had several such details. He had traveled to US, UK, France, Turkey, Japan etc. About France he said that the hotel (lodge) rooms did not have attached bathrooms (to take a bath) and people there had baths every one or two weeks. He could not live like that and found a place where he could bathe everyday; and he inferrred that the French bahting frequency was in that range (pardon moi msieu ). I forget the exact book where I read this (he wrote several 10s of books). He's a great source for how people lived during those times (most people read him for philosophy, but he traveled like a maniac for a time that did not have planes and automobiles). He even commented on the fact that the concept of jhoota (in Hindi, not shoe, but saliva) where you drink from a glass which leaves saliva on the glass and others should not drink from the same glass without washing it, did not exist in Europe.

About Anand Mahindra's quote, I think he is falling into an implicit bias of many people where they are going primarily by a person's look. Rishi Sunak looks Indian (obviously) but I consider him British. THat's where he grew up and spent all his life and will have imbibed those attitudes/perspectives. Definitely, he had has Hindu and Kenyan influences growing up and also the immigrant experience (need to work more than the locals) but his ideals and perspectives are primarily English/British. I try to not judge people by how they look. He's a Brit and will look out for Brit interests and nothing wrong with that. The problem is that many Brits will see him as pucca Indian and that's great. Let them squirm.

The European concept of hygiene was idiosyncratic.

The gaudy palace of Versailles stank atrociously because everyone would relieve themselves in the rooms, behind a convenient tapestry etc.

It was quite acceptable.

bala wrote:Each of them has two aspects – the initiator and the raw underlying power or energy. They are depicted as the male and female consort, together and inseparable

One small OT. This is the essence of saankhya darshana - purusha aur prakruti

sanjaykumar wrote:The gaudy palace of Versailles stank atrociously because everyone would relieve themselves in the rooms, behind a convenient tapestry etc..

It is in a book called "The Clockwork Universe" which is about Royal Society which was started by Charles II. There are lof of such gems about the beliefs of the "scientists" of that time (including Newton and a few other very recognizable names).

Thanks for the reference. It might be a good one source resource on the thinking in the civilised world.

UK: Doctor suspended for 9 months for asking a female patient to remove her veil during consultation

https://www.opindia.com/2022/10/uk-doct ... suspended/

Ukrainian refugee takes host to the police on modern day slavery charges https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uk ... ebebe60081
Hannah Debenham, 42, arranged for the woman and her 10-year-old daughter stay at her eight bedroom home in Uckfield, East Sussex, under the settlement scheme back in June.

But fractures soon began to show, with the mums repeatedly falling out before the NHS mental health specialist asked her to leave.

Days later, she got a knock at the door from police officers saying they’d had a complaint.

Her guest claimed to have been ‘used as a slave and full-time child minder for little or no pay under the disguise of assisting her in the Ukrainian settlement scheme’.

She was invited in for an interview with a modern-day slavery inspector, something she branded ‘the worst experience of my life’, and remained under investigation for two months before the case was dropped due to a lack of evidence.

Things were fine during the ‘first weeks of the honeymoon period’ but then they turned sour when Hannah noticed the pair ‘didn’t clear up their dishes and used a new glass every time’.

The women fell out several times, including one disagreement over Hannah not being able to drive her guest to an appointment because she was working.

But everything came to a head when the Ukrainian mum took Hannah’s five-year-old son to a playground.

When the boy said he needed the toilet, she apparently told him to go in a nearby field and use leaves to clean himself.

Ms Debenham said: ‘I felt I could no longer fully trust her with my children and we decided that the arrangement was no longer working for us. I told her that when her benefits came through, she should find somewhere else to live.’
Ms Debenham is relieved it’s all over but has felt incredibly stressed.

She said: ‘Now whenever I see a Ukrainian flag in this country I can’t help but feel anger for the people who have no gratitude, no care and no respect for people like me who was naïve and thought I could make this world a better place if I helped by inviting them to live in our home.’

IndraD wrote:Ukrainian refugee takes host to the police on modern day slavery charges https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/uk ... ebebe60081
Hannah Debenham, 42, arranged for the woman and her 10-year-old daughter stay at her eight bedroom home in Uckfield, East Sussex, under the settlement scheme back in June.

But fractures soon began to show, with the mums repeatedly falling out before the NHS mental health specialist asked her to leave.

Days later, she got a knock at the door from police officers saying they’d had a complaint.

Her guest claimed to have been ‘used as a slave and full-time child minder for little or no pay under the disguise of assisting her in the Ukrainian settlement scheme’.

She was invited in for an interview with a modern-day slavery inspector, something she branded ‘the worst experience of my life’, and remained under investigation for two months before the case was dropped due to a lack of evidence.

Things were fine during the ‘first weeks of the honeymoon period’ but then they turned sour when Hannah noticed the pair ‘didn’t clear up their dishes and used a new glass every time’.

The women fell out several times, including one disagreement over Hannah not being able to drive her guest to an appointment because she was working.

But everything came to a head when the Ukrainian mum took Hannah’s five-year-old son to a playground.

When the boy said he needed the toilet, she apparently told him to go in a nearby field and use leaves to clean himself.

Ms Debenham said: ‘I felt I could no longer fully trust her with my children and we decided that the arrangement was no longer working for us. I told her that when her benefits came through, she should find somewhere else to live.’
Ms Debenham is relieved it’s all over but has felt incredibly stressed.

She said: ‘Now whenever I see a Ukrainian flag in this country I can’t help but feel anger for the people who have no gratitude, no care and no respect for people like me who was naïve and thought I could make this world a better place if I helped by inviting them to live in our home.’

So the angrezi lady wanted a free baby sitter for her kid. ??

Atmavik wrote:So the angrezi lady wanted a free baby sitter for her kid. ??

not really
host paid for virtue signalling.
Am aware of more examples. One surgeon housed a Ukr couple.
Later on he came to know they were not together but divorced and were ordering ***** stuff online from his home address,
This surgeon's divorced nurse wife, another virtue signaller, who wanted to house ukr refugees did a u turn after hearing this.
More shocking stories..first hand reports all //

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 14july2022
About a quarter of volunteer hosts have said they will not extend their welcome beyond the original six months agreed, according to a survey published by the Office for National Statistics last week. Less than a quarter would go beyond a year.

it is actually in refugees favor that these wokes do not extend their hospitality. these refugees would not be repatriated back - so what is the next option ? settle them in council houses and give them permit to work or government pensions. the earlier this happens - the quicker they settle into their british lives and get passport later.

I have a personal example.
My French neighbors are absolutely nice and generous people, we are very good friends. Two of their grown up children have left home for higher studies last year. So when the war broke out, and a colleague of my neighbour lady spoke of her distant family in Ukraine in distress, she immediately offered to host them since they had room to spare.

A Ukranian lady with her teenage son arrived soon, she is a tad under fifty, had an older son whi was working in the US on a green card. She was vague about what her husband did, it seems he worked for the govt in some senior bureaucrat capacity.

My neighbours took care of everything, for a few weeks all seemed fine. The war started stretching and the ukr lady wanted to fing work. She was an admin of sorts of a music dept at a univ in ukr, but jobs are hard to come by in a foreign country such a field. My neighbours helped them a lot to get their paperwork to continue staying in France, got her teenage son into a private school and guaranteed payment of fees. Meanwhile they asked me if I could spare time to help the mom and teen son with french lessons to reinforce the free lessons given by the city council and I agreed, An hour and half, twice a week.

The older son in the US wanted to join the family in France and did. My neighbours used their network to get him a decent paying permanent job, not a temp gig in France.
Things seemed to fall in place, they even found the mom a part time gig in a 4* hotel to manage the morning breakfast.

All this took about 5 months or so. My neighbours suggested the ukr family rent a place and move there to be on their own. And then things started falling apart quite quickly. The older son wanted to move out on his own leaving his mom and bro behind. The mom quit her part time job. 2 teenage twin girls came out of nowhere claiming to be her daughters, that they were living with another French family and that they were being abused. They all piled into my neighbour's house and started behaving like royalty driving them nuts. Every conversation was like a mini fight. Thankfully the ukr family soon all fought bitterly among themselves, the girls left for Ukraine (!) the older son quit his job and went back to the US and the mom and son stayed on for a few more weeks and suddenly left one day without saying to where, leaving a mess behind them and no word of thanks for being sheltered and helped in every way possible for over 6 months. The teenage boy failed to turn up at school for September start of year. My neighbours were shocked.

I suggested that it was perhaps a godsend turn of events before things got nasty or violent, and they replace all locks of the house and alarm codes to get back peace of mind. Which they did. And they had to get on some medication to deal with all the stress and anxiety cumulated over 7 months.

My help with French fell by the wayside after about 4 months of effort with not much success, either I'm a pretty bad teacher or...

I really can't make sense out of this ukr family's behaviour, their lack of transparency and trust towards such a generous host family. They never seemed to lack money, especially mom and girls who loved designer brands. They were nice and polite while receiving the help _they_ wanted but cranky and ungrateful when they couldn't get their way...

Does watching all this and playing a minor role in the story allow me to come to some general conclusion about "Ukrainians"? No. I'd give them some benefit of doubt as refugees in a country they had milk and honey image of but turned out to be a quite different where everyone has to work, even if it's 35 hrs/week.
But the way they reacted to being put on their feet and told to be independent after having given them the means to do so was a disappointment. If they had gotten any more abusive or violent with their really humane and generous hosts, I'd vote for them to be jailed or expulsed.
As anti I am to their regime's conduct I can't get myself to take it out on their people. It would become an act of attributing collective guilt and condoning collective punishment - which is precisely the what I condemn the Kiev regime for.

My God!
We have a Ukr lady in the dept who is always on sick leave (stress) and whining around like a sour pus (her brother fighting on Russian side!)
everyone is fed up of her but cos of wokeness and current situation no action taken. And no, she is not a new entrant but an old whine.

^ I have an example of pure pakiness . Bangalore Kerala style.

A Ukrainian couple was admitted to residency program at my madarasa and was looking for research opportunities to get into a highly competitive subspecialty that is especially hard to get x for foreign medical grad . They approached an Israeli colleague pretending to be Jewish Ukrainian refugees thinking it would help them secure favors. Coincidentally it was after rosh hassanah. Asked how was rosh hassanah. Kids thought that may be a place in Israel they pretended to visit and said it was a nice place!!

I am waiting for them to approach me pretending to be Indians.

It's not uncommon for people to lie to secure favors . But this was blatant .

I find it very strange that only leftists have the right to decolonize history and society

Thousands of mosques targeted as Hindu nationalists try to rewrite India’s history

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... as-history

^
Aggressive scrutiny of Hindu claims, no criticism of Moslem positions, citing of Richard Eaton and Truschke , constantly depicting Moslem victimhood melodrama.

The standard script.

Save food, save the poor in the UK

Where are Greta, Malala, Priyanka,... ?

Maybe Rishi can suggest kaddu ka bharta sabji

Has the Guardian been paid off like the NYT was by Chinese sponsorship of China news?.

That’s a new low even for propaganda. One photograph of the Gyanvapi temple will put the doubting Thomases (hehehe) at ease

Britain's Hindus are ‘smart, rich and very well behaved': Report


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 208741.cms

IndraD wrote:Britain's Hindus are ‘smart, rich and very well behaved': Report
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 208741.cms

With the expected Hinduphobic turd comment :

But the picture is not all rosy, as last month's clashes in Leicester between groups of young Hindus and Muslims showed, with some suggesting that the rise of Hindu nationalism in India is fuelling anti-Muslim sentiment in Britain, the report said

Cyrano wrote:

IndraD wrote:Britain's Hindus are ‘smart, rich and very well behaved': Report
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 208741.cms

With the expected Hinduphobic turd comment :

But the picture is not all rosy, as last month's clashes in Leicester between groups of young Hindus and Muslims showed, with some suggesting that the rise of Hindu nationalism in India is fuelling anti-Muslim sentiment in Britain, the report said

the britshits are aryans, they are the leading lights of humanity and can never be wrong or blamed for anything.

twitter says that when the rani was informed about sunak, an Indian who was likely to become the PM, she replied, "over my dead body".

The rest, as the aryans' say, is history

the righteous and angelic pakis, being fellow abrahamics, who are also honorary aryans, and have been needlessly and wilfully provoked by conniving b@n!@$.

Cyrano wrote:
With the expected Hinduphobic turd comment :

But the picture is not all rosy, as last month's clashes in Leicester between groups of young Hindus and Muslims showed, with some suggesting that the rise of Hindu nationalism in India is fuelling anti-Muslim sentiment in Britain, the report said

'Times of India' have used the feed from PTI.
PTI in turn have based their report on 'The Times' news article from UK. The link to the original article is
Britain’s Hindus in numbers: smart, rich and very well behaved
The complete article is behind paywall.
The author of this news report is Laith Al-Khalaf and the article was published in 'The Times'. So you can understand where the itch to add the usual trope is coming from.
In the original article, there is another bit of turd from Katwala who has been quoted a lot in the article but was not included in PTI's report

In 2016, Zac Goldsmith’s campaign to become mayor of London attempted to take advantage of the growing divide in votes between Hindus and Asian Muslims by producing leaflets claiming that Labour candidate Sadiq Khan, a Muslim, would tax the family jewellery of British Hindus. Goldsmith was condemned and lost the campaign. “The danger of pitching to that group in the way that Goldsmith did is that [they] are quite suspicious of a pitch that looks like it’s ‘good minorities versus bad minorities’ — especially younger people,” Katwala says.

Looking at Katwala's background, he is a pukka leftist.

Britain’s Hindus in numbers: smart, rich and very well behaved

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brit ... -z8knkdrxh

On Wednesday evening, three generations of the Patel family congregated beneath the marble spires of the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir temple in Neasden, northwest London, to celebrate the Hindu new year. In each of the temple’s rooms are golden statues, piles of brightly coloured sweets and candles.
“Being a British Hindu is a source of pride today,” says Shree Patel, 34, bouncing his two-month-old daughter Aashka in a sling. Shree was born in Gujarat and moved to the UK when he was six with his mother, Prit, 54. He also has son, Niyam, two, with his wife, Tejal, 31, who was born in Edmonton.
Worshippers were also celebrating another milestone, the election of Britain’s first Hindu prime minister, Rishi Sunak, who was born in Southampton, helped out at his local temple as a teenager and lit a Diwali candle on the steps of 11 Downing Street when he was chancellor. “It’s a proud moment for our multi-ethnic society, it shows that there are no barriers to your children doing anything,” Shree says.

Sunak’s appointment may be the crowning glory for arguably our most successful immigrant community — but who are Britain’s Hindus?

Bloody beginnings
England and Wales are now home to 983,000 Hindus, with London’s graveyards showing Hindus have been coming to the UK from India for 500 years.
The first big wave of Hindu migration came in 1947, after India’s independence and bloody partition, and was encouraged to plug the UK’s postwar labour shortage. Even the anti-migration hardliner Enoch Powell recruited healthcare workers from the Indian subcontinent during his time as health minister.
The second wave came from East Africa in the 1970s, when Idi Amin expelled Uganda’s Asian population. Tejal is a product of this wave. “My dad is from India but my mum is from Africa, but I do think they are connected by being Hindu,” she says. While 4,500 members of the diaspora fled to India, 27,000 resettled in Britain. A third wave came after the UK relaxed immigration laws for foreign students in the 1990s.
Indian and African immigrants protesting against racism and discrimination in London in 1952
Indian and African immigrants protesting against racism and discrimination in London in 1952

Priyesh Patel, 27, a PhD student, was also celebrating in the temple. His parents too come from East Africa and India, and he says the conditions of migration affect Hindu culture in the UK. “It’s very much ‘Keep your head down, focus on your family, on your education, your career’, because if times change, like in East Africa, you should have the skill set.”

Cities and suburbs
As with most religious and ethnic minorities, Hindus are concentrated around large cities: 47 per cent of British Hindus live in London, accounting for 5 per cent of the capital’s population. The East Midlands, with concentrations around cities such Leicester, is home to 10 per cent of Britain’s Hindus.
Yet over the past 50 years, Hindus have dispersed to most corners of the country. “There’s been a general spreading-out effect over the last generation,” says Sunder Katwala, founder of the British Future think tank. “In the next census we will see that there is a bit more diversity everywhere.” He says that after two or three generations, immigrant populations tend to become more suburban.
Indian GPs, newsagents and cornershop owners striking out into new areas helped the spread. Babita Sharma, 45, is a former BBC journalist who grew up above her parents’ shop in Reading. “The corner shop put people of colour into every white community,” she says. “It was a golden opportunity but . . . you stuck out like a sore thumb.”
Where to call home?
Hindus are concentrated in cities across England
London
46.7%
South East
15.1%
East Midlands
10.4%
West Midlands
9.7%
East
8.4%
North West
4.6%
South West
2.5%
Yorkshire and The Humber
2.4%
North East
0.6%
Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times • Source: ONS

Higher education
In 2018, 59 per cent of British Hindus reported having a degree of higher education, nearly double the 30 per cent of Christians. Only 7.8 per cent of British Hindus have GCSEs as their highest qualification, compared with 20 per cent of Christians. Just 5.5 per cent of British Hindus have no formal qualifications.
The cliché of the demanding Indian parent — as satirised in the 1990s sitcom Goodness Gracious Me — seems to have a grounding in reality. “Education was our No 1 priority in the house,” Prit says. “We understood that it provided opportunities.” Sharma agrees: “It featured heavily growing up — that was what really mattered. You’ve just got to get on with your homework — there’s no choice!”
“The reality is that many Indians [who moved to Britain] came from very educated families,” Sunder Katwala adds. “It was quite a middle-class group. The first generation didn’t get the opportunities that their kids have.” Shree’s mother Prit, for example, came to the UK 30 years ago with a chemistry degree but chose to run a shop with her husband, who had been a chemical engineer. “When we moved to this country we had a young son and had to think, ‘How can we can get the money?’,” she says.

Top of the class
Percentage of adults with degree, or equivalent, by religious affiliation in England and Wales
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
20
30
40
50
60%
No religion
Christian
Buddhist
Hindu
Jewish
Muslim
Sikh
Any other religion
Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times • Source: ONS

Moving into top jobs
The early cohorts of Indian migrants were paid poorly to fill holes in Britain’s unskilled labour market. Many set up their own businesses to escape the poor wages and workplace discrimination.
By 2012, Hindus living in London had a net wealth of £277,400 (including property), second only to the Jewish community. Hindus have the third-lowest poverty rate, behind Jews and Christians. Hindus receive the second-highest hourly earnings among religious groups in the UK behind the Jewish community, earning £13.80 an hour.
“[Our children] saw us working so hard, day in and day out, seven days a week, nearly 12 hours a day, and I don’t think they want to work like that,” says Prit, who still owns a shop. “I always said to them, ‘We are working hard so you don’t have to’.”
Sharma says: “It was about trying to provide for your family and make sure they don’t become the shopkeepers but instead they become prime ministers.”
The most recent census showed that 15.4 per cent of British Indians, nearly 50 per cent of whom are Hindus, were in professional and higher managerial roles, the highest proportion of any group. In 2018, more than 40 per cent of British Hindus were in “high-skilled employment”. Again, only Jewish people ranked higher, with British Sikhs third.
Sunak, the son of a GP and pharmacist, went on to be a banker at Goldman Sachs before embarking on a political career.
How much do Hindus earn?
Median hourly pay of employees by religious affiliation in England and Wales, 2018
Jewish
£19.22
Hindu
£13.8
Other
£12.76
No religion
£12.09
Sikh
£11.93
Christian
£11.64
Buddhist
£10.62
Muslim
£9.63
Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times • Source: ONS

Who works where?
Average estimates for proportion working in high-skilled occupations in England and Wales
Jewish
45.6%
Hindu
41.4%
Other
34.0%
Sikh
29.9%
No religion
29.3%
Buddhist
28.1%
Christian
28.0%
Muslim
21.3%
Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times • Source: ONS

Staying out of trouble
In 2021, 0.4 per cent of prisoners in the UK identified as Hindu, the lowest of any religious cohort. Those with higher- educational attainment, income and socioeconomic standing are less likely to commit crimes generally, so it may be that the low crime stats are born out of high Hindu social mobility.
Trupti Patel, president of the Hindu Forum of Britain, says the faith itself, along with strong community ties, also deters crime. Hindus tend to live in large households — 3.2 people in Britain, compared with the average 2.4 — with extended families bringing stability to young people. “If someone is doing anything bad then the whole community will stand up and say, ‘This is totally wrong, you should not be doing it’,” she says, adding that fear of shame plays a part.
Back at the temple in Neasden, Shree Patel says that for most British Hindus of his generation, nationality and religion are inseparable. “I’ve grown up in the UK and I am a Hindu and I wouldn’t be able to differentiate where my religion ends and my nationality begins.”
But the picture is not all rosy, as last month’s clashes in Leicester between groups of young Hindus and Muslims showed, with some suggesting that the rise of Hindu nationalism in India is fuelling anti-Muslim sentiment in Britain.

Barely behind bars
There are fewer British Hindus in prisons than any other religious group
Hindu
329
Jewish
467
Sikh
491
Buddhist
1,481
Other
2,037
Muslim
13,724
No religion
24,540
Christian
35,255
Chart: The Times and The Sunday Times • Source: Statista

Election winners?
While early waves of Asian immigrants to the UK identified strongly with Labour, recent elections have seen falling support for the party among Hindus and a shift to the Conservatives. Muslims and Sikhs from South Asia have stayed aligned with Labour.
David Cameron tried to diversify the Tory party to secure the voters of Britain’s ethnic minorities, who still disproportionately vote Labour. However, Sunder Katwala says that more brown faces in politics alone cannot win over large swathes of the new floating voters: “Now there is no particular identification with any party and, crucially, the Conservatives haven’t made the progress they hoped just by diversifying their front bench.” When polled, British Indians mostly say that it is “not too important” to have a British Indian MP representing their constituency.
In 2016, Zac Goldsmith’s campaign to become mayor of London attempted to take advantage of the growing divide in votes between Hindus and Asian Muslims by producing leaflets claiming that Labour candidate Sadiq Khan, a Muslim, would tax the family jewellery of British Hindus. Goldsmith was condemned and lost the campaign. “The danger of pitching to that group in the way that Goldsmith did is that [they] are quite suspicious of a pitch that looks like it’s ‘good minorities versus bad minorities’ — especially younger people,” Katwala says.
British Hindus, and Asians more generally, are an electorate that are up for grabs.

chetak wrote:
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twitter says that when the rani was informed about sunak, an Indian who was likely to become the PM, she replied, "over my dead body".

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Well, it did happen as she said. However, I suspect that that is an invented story.

The average Hindu (as well as Sikhs, Indian Christians of all varieties and Sri Lankans) all make sacrifices to ensure their children have a better life than themselves. In fact so do many African immigrants and the Chinese.

The exception are those of a "peaceful" persuasion - Both Pakistanis and Bangladeshi are near the bottom of education performance tables with the "Afro Caribbean" contingent at the bottom. The Afro Caribbeans at least do well in the Sports field and in the Entertainment sector.

There are a few peaceful types who do achieve well in the education stakes but they are proportionately fewer than their Hindu/Sikh?Christian contemporaries. It is getting more difficult to see statistics in the media because the media is dominated by woke activists who suppress such facts.

Hindus and Chinese definitely. Sikh values are decidedly different from Hindu or Christian values. Muslims are content to live in their own world and have no use for the secular world except for rights and privileges.

As India’s autonomy and options grow, an adult conversation needs to be had. The liberal press-and I am sorry to state this-does not want to have this conversation. The piece above was printed in The Times, as establishment as the media gets.

Wow. From above stats, brits apparently jails a lot of Buddhists. Their crime lockers must be full of bronze buddhas used to whack people in their studies and drawing rooms

Aldonkar wrote:

chetak wrote:
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twitter says that when the rani was informed about sunak, an Indian who was likely to become the PM, she replied, "over my dead body".

.....

Well, it did happen as she said. However, I suspect that that is an invented story.

The average Hindu (as well as Sikhs, Indian Christians of all varieties and Sri Lankans) all make sacrifices to ensure their children have a better life than themselves. In fact so do many African immigrants and the Chinese.

The exception are those of a "peaceful" persuasion - Both Pakistanis and Bangladeshi are near the bottom of education performance tables with the "Afro Caribbean" contingent at the bottom. The Afro Caribbeans at least do well in the Sports field and in the Entertainment sector.

There are a few peaceful types who do achieve well in the education stakes but they are proportionately fewer than their Hindu/Sikh?Christian contemporaries. It is getting more difficult to see statistics in the media because the media is dominated by woke activists who suppress such facts.

Aldonkar ji

of course it is an invented story, but its a nice one, all the same

^^^
Nairji
Bulk of those Buddhists are reef smoking on dole Gora types just converted in the haze of smoke probably

Rsatchi, are we looking at state enabled religious persecution?

In Jail:
0.5% of population Buddhists -> 1481 ragebois
5% of population Abduls -> 13724 ghazis

Abduls with 10 times population should have 14810 ghazis, a shortage of ~1000. So percent wise, Buddhists are far more in jail than ghazis despite not grooming underage girls or booming overage metro passengers. Rolling a blunt and shooting breeze about Nirvana is no longer a crime in west

That number is like disproportionate to their size and human rights watch bodies need to point their moist snouts at this. It is nothing but british govt backed persecution of a hyper-peaceful minority

They still publish the breakdown by ethnicity and religion and can be found at UK Prison Population Statistics

Buddhist numbers appear to be quite high.
The breakdown of prisoners listed in the Times article is from June 2021 for England and Wales

The population from June 2022 is
Christian 36,307
Muslim 14,037
Hindu 347
Sikh 507
Buddhist 1,583
Jewish 479
No religion 25,218
Other/non-recognised 1,977
Not recorded 204
Total 80,659

The breakdown by ethnicity is
White 57,974
Mixed 3,958
Asian or Asian British 6,533
Black or Black British 10,059
Chinese or other ethnic group 1,311
Not stated/Unrecorded 824
Total 80,659

RajeevK wrote:They still publish the breakdown by ethnicity and religion and can be found at UK Prison Population Statistics

Buddhist numbers appear to be quite high.
The breakdown of prisoners listed in the Times article is from June 2021 for England and Wales

The population from June 2022 is
Christian 36,307
Muslim 14,037
Hindu 347
Sikh 507
Buddhist 1,583
Jewish 479
No religion 25,218
Other/non-recognised 1,977
Not recorded 204
Total 80,659

The breakdown by ethnicity is
White 57,974
Mixed 3,958
Asian or Asian British 6,533
Black or Black British 10,059
Chinese or other ethnic group 1,311
Not stated/Unrecorded 824
Total 80,659

I think we are biased to think that Buddhists should be a peaceful lot due to our dharmic thinking/indian frame of context.

Buddhism is the dominant religion in Bhutan, Myanmar, Cambodia, Hong Kong, Japan, Tibet, Laos, Macau, Mongolia, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Large Buddhist populations live in Mainland China, Taiwan, North Korea, Nepal, and South Korea.

If you imagine what goes on in macau... it has nothing to do with buddhism but people could be considering themselves Buddhist. All dharmic communities are slowly shallowed out.

Macau? Sri Lanka.