Re: Indian Autos Thread
Posted: 31 Oct 2008 14:46
your best bet in that price range is to get a used Lancer or City with AT.
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If you are particular about auto-transmissions, you have only 2 options in that price range:vina wrote:Guru log.. I think I will need to buy a small urban runabout for SHQ for the office commute. I am not very kicked about the chauffeur business both from the safety aspect and also flexibility of will come at 9 and leave at promptly 6 kind of thing,plus adding to costs. Funnily enough , SHQ was the one who had the India license, while I had to come and get mine renewed, but she doesnt drive of course.
I think I can talk her into driving and not hiring a chauffeur if it is a car with an automatic transmission.
Is there a good Hyundai, Maruti,Chevy Spark kind of car that is safe (meets Euro NCAP norms , ie currently being sold in Europe ) has airbags and ABS and most importantly is automatic transmission , with a budget of around 4.5 to 5.5 lakhs max, with good fuel economy of course.
Most of the Maruti models (Alto, Zen, Wagon R) are way past sell by date and are due to be junked for new models.. What is the scene with i10 (how I wish they didnt have monkey khan in the adverts) , I am sure there are big discounts going around in that car. It was incredibly overpriced to start with. Does Chevy spark have an auto option ?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Auto major Tata Motors on Wednesday said it will shut down its Jamshedpur unit, the mother plant for its heavy commercial vehicles, for three days due to slump in demand.
“Tata Motors is taking a block closure at Jamshedpur from November 6 to 8, 2008, to match production with demand of vehicles produced at the Jamshedpur plant to avoid build-up of inventory either in the company or with our dealers,” a company spokesperson said.
Forget Nano, Chinese car maker eyes Bengal
KOLKATA: Nano may have veered off Singur, but there’s a sliver of hope for the troubled land yet.
Representatives of a Chinese automobile major met chief minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee on Tuesday, seeking 600 acres — about the same amount that is ‘undisputed’ in Singur — to set up a small car factory in Bengal.
While the government hopes the company would slip into the Nano site vacated by Tata Motors, it will also showcase other locations at Kalyani, Kharagpur and Haldia.
China’s First Automobile Works (FAW), in collaboration with Ural India, an Indo-Russian joint venture, wants to set up a Rs 1,500-crore automobile manufacturing unit in Bengal. And, the first vehicle to roll out of the plant in 2010 will most likely be a small car priced at a cool Rs 1.6 lakh.
A tie-up between Ural India, in which the state government has 11%, and FAW will be formalized through an MoU in the first phase. J K Saraf, chairman of Ural India and Ren Diansheng, vice-director of FAW, led the five-member delegation of the company that called on Bhattacharjee.
The company is expected to start manufacturing small cars and then go on to buses. “We plan to price the small car at Rs 1.6 lakh to keep it competitive,” Saraf said. However, Ural is yet to decide on the name of the car.
The officials, who are to scout for land in Kharagpur and Kalyani, are not talking about Singur to avoid getting into a controversy. “But, if the state government is willing to give us the plot at a cheap rate with other benefits, we can discuss it further,” said an Ural official. “No one wants trouble and so we are keeping our options open on Kharagpur and Kalyani.”
Industries minister Nirupam Sen said company officials were visiting different parts of the country and were keen on investing in the state.
The Fast Lady is a 1962 British comedy film, directed by Ken Annakin. The screenplay was written by Henry Blyth and Jack Davies, based on a story by Keble Howard. It marked the film debut of Julie Christie.
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Murdoch Troon (Stanley Baxter) is a dour Scot living and working for a local government authority somewhere in England. A shy young man, his main excitement comes from cycling. After he's forced off the road by an impatient car driver, he tracks down the owner, only to find that he is Commander Chingford (James Robertson Justice), the domineering and ascerbic owner of a sportscar distributorship. Chingford reluctantly pays for the damage to Troon's cycle, but more significantly, Troon meets Claire (Julie Christie), Chingford's beautiful blonde daughter. He is smitten with her and determines to buy a car so that he can take her out.
Enter Troon's friend and fellow lodger, Freddie Fox (Leslie Phillips), a used car salesman and serial cad. He sees a chance to ingratiate himself with Chingford, and also sell Troon a car. The car is a vintage Bentley, named The Fast Lady.
Troon has his first driving lesson in a less exciting car, an Austin A40, which proves to be a comedy of disasters, with a nervous instructor (Eric Barker), but Fox then offers to teach him. The results are equally disastrous.
Unwilling to give up, and determined to prove his love for Claire, Troon bets her father that he can drive the car. An experienced racing driver, Chingford is convinced that Troon has no hope of achieving this — and bets him that he cannot.
Troon takes Chingford for a drive in the Bentley and, as expected, loses the bet. But the tables are turned when Chingford loses Troon's counter-bet. He reluctantly allows Claire to go out with Troon in the car.
The day comes for Troon's driving test. Fox has set him up with a "bent" examiner, but Troon draws the "wrong" examiner. As the test comes to an end (and the examiner is almost certainly going to fail Troon), the car is commandeered by police to chase a Jaguar car driven by escaping bank robbers. The high speed chase takes them through town and country, across a golf course (leaving in its wake, a comical trial of disaster) and eventually the robbers are (of course) caught. Chingford so admires his driving skill that he allows the couple to get engaged.
The film features cameos and performances by many well-known comedy and character actors, including Dick Emery as a car salesman, Gerald Campion, Frankie Howerd, Fred Emney, Warren Mitchell and Kathleen Harrison.
Air France and KLM have announced plans to conduct a six-month trial of a new zero-emission, compressed-air powered vehicle. The AirPod seats three, can do 28 mph, and goes about 135 miles on a tank of compressed air. Motor Development International, the vehicle's developer, expects the AirPod to reach production by mid-2009, and to sell for around 6,000 Euro. Initially, it will be manufactured in India by Tata Motors, and distributed in France and India.
It looks pretty ok when compared to the competition such as SX4amitmas wrote:Had a good look at the new Honda Citi today and must say that the car's dashboard looks SHABBY. Yes its a stunner from inside and is loaded for the price at which they are selling it but frankly the dashboard leaves much to be desired. Plastic quality looks cheap and even the I10 and sparks of the world are much ahead. The dealer did not allow a test drive but am waiting to see how it does on the road with the new engine and increased BHP.
http://www.bsmotoring.com/bsm/wcms/en/h ... 81121.html
A-Star car?
22 Nov '08
Text: Srinivas Krishnan
Photos: Pablo Chaterji
So what do we think of the newest Maruti Suzuki around?
A-Star car? Cruising at about 110 kph, I somehow can't come around to the fact that it's a little three-cylinder motor that's powering this new supermini from Maruti Suzuki. The top-end ZXi version of the A-Star comes with a tachometer that's housed in a spherical pod above the main instrument console, looking as if you just got it fitted at your neighbourhood performance tuning shop. I take my eyes of the road to look at it, and the needle is nestled at 3500 rpm. If needed I could push the car a little more, and I do just that, till the little A-Star runs out of steam when it reaches the 155 kph mark on the speedo. This is okay by me in a car of this size.
Yup, it's quite a compact car. The A-Star is not in the tall-boy mode of small cars that we are getting too familiar with. It's like a grown-up Alto — which in fact it replaces in many markets across the world. But it is better looking than the Alto, and is indeed the 21st century version all right. But other than its newness in its appearance, it is what's inside that compact bonnet that's really special — a new engine and a new gearbox.
The A-Star is powered by a 998cc three-cylinder three valve per cylinder DOHC motor that produces 66 bhp at 6200 rpm and 9.3 kgm at just 3500 rpm. It's paired to a five-speed manual gearbox. Now the new drivetrain combination makes the A-Star a bit different to the other little Suzuki motors around. For one, it does not rev like a motorcycle engine and makes its torque a little early in life – the benefit of course is that in-city driveability is good, and ensures that you don't have to keep stirring that gear lever too often.
This brings me to the second nice aspect about the A-Star. The gearshift quality is a vast improvement over most other Suzukis; the stubby gear lever borrowed from the Swift shifts much more positively and it is flickable, though I must mention that it's not as good as the Hyundai i10's.
As mentioned at the beginning of the article, the way the engine moves the lightweight A-Star around makes you feel as if it's an inline-four inside. Though it gets a little buzzy at higher revs, most of the time, the engine comes through as pretty refined. The easy access to torque means that you can tuck your nose in between other cars in our tightly packed streets and get away with ease. Sitting on a wide track, the A-Star is well-planted and confident on the curves. Its handling is sorted and roadholding is decent too. When it comes to the rough patches, the ride is firm, but the damping is much better thanks to the gas-charged shock-absorbers that the A-Star gets.
The steering wheel is borrowed from the Swift; it feels a little large in this application and the steering setup could do with some more feel.
With its perfect, compact dimensions and the driver-friendly drivetrain, the A-Star looks quite promising as a good city runabout. Besides that, the quality of the plastics that has gone in is also an improvement over most of the existing Suzukis — its duo-tone grey is also a relief compared to the beige interiors. Still, it's a small car, so while you are quite okay at the front, seating three adults at the rear could only lead to a rather intimate experience. The base LXi version of the A-Star retails for Rs 3.61 lakh in Mumbai, while the top-end ZXi version (which comes with ABS/EBD and dual airbags) is priced at Rs 4.28 lakh ex-showroom Mumbai. The pricing, remember, is introductory. So till the moment Maruti Suzuki takes the price up, the A-Star pricing right now is quite competitive. Okay, it may have a three-cylinder motor like the M-800/Omni and the Alto, but it is pretty evident that Suzuki has ensured that you get four-cylinder engine like performance with the frugal fuel drinking habits of a three-cylinder motor... now who can argue with that?
For a more detailed driving impression of the new A-Star, do pick up the December 2008 issue of Business
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Congressional Democrats are drafting legislation that would give the teetering Detroit automakers at least $15 billion in emergency loans early next week and grant the federal government broad authority to manage a massive restructuring of their operations.
The proposal, which could be put to a vote in Congress as soon as tomorrow, would establish a seven-member "auto board" of Cabinet officials and a chairman to be appointed by President Bush to oversee both the short-term loans and a long-term effort to restore the faltering industry to profitability. If the companies take the cash, they would be accountable to the government for nearly every move, and for every transaction of $25 million or more.
As part of that restructuring, General Motors, Chrysler and Ford could be asked to jettison their top executives, one of the chief architects of the plan, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), said yesterday. Stating bluntly that "GM is in the worst shape" of the three auto giants, Dodd said that GM chairman G. Richard Wagoner Jr., the company's chief since 2000, "has to move on."
"You have got to consider new leadership," Dodd said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "If you're going to really restructure this, you have got to bring in a new team to do this."
President-elect Barack Obama seemed to echo that view during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" yesterday, saying "we have to put an end to . . . the head-in-the-sand approach to the auto industry that has been prevalent for decades now."
Obama expanded on the point later at a news conference in Chicago, saying management should be replaced if the "team that's currently in place doesn't understand the urgency of the situation and is not willing to make the tough choices and adapt to these new circumstances."
The president-elect also for the first time publicly endorsed the idea of a short-term loan program to keep GM and Chrysler afloat through the first three months of the new year. Ford is also seeking access to a government line of credit but says it would only ask for the money if the economy weakens significantly. By contrast, GM executives have said that, without government help, they could run out of cash within the month.
On Friday, Democrats in Congress broke a weeks-long stalemate with the White House over aid to the automakers, agreeing to draw funds from an existing loan program created by Congress to promote fuel-efficient technologies, as the White House had long proposed. Since then, the two sides have worked through the weekend to reach a compromise, but they have yet to agree on many details.
A White House official declined late yesterday to comment on the Democratic proposal, saying it has not been transmitted to the White House or to congressional Republicans. The Bush administration has drafted its own proposal for managing the bailout, including appointment of a "financial viability advisor" within the Commerce Department who would have vast power to force the car companies into bankruptcy unless their executives, their workers and their creditors make concessions.
As described by Democratic aides, the Democratic proposal stops short of that model, treating the auto giants more like the banks and other financial institutions that have sought help under the $700 billion financial rescue program administered by the Treasury Department.
Under the Democrats' proposal, the Detroit Three would be eligible for low-interest loans to be disbursed by the Treasury on Dec. 15. The seven-year loans would carry a 5 percent interest rate for the first five years, and 9 percent thereafter -- the same terms offered to financial firms under the Treasury program.
As long as the loans are outstanding, the auto companies would be barred from paying dividends to their shareholders or bonuses to their top executives. And they would be required to submit a long-term restructuring plan to the auto board by March 31.
The proposal also does not mention changing the companies' leadership, aides said. Reacting to Dodd's suggestion to oust Wagoner, GM spokesman Steve Harris said "the employees, dealers, suppliers and the GM board of directors feels strongly that Rick Wagoner is the right guy and best guy to lead us through these tough times."
Democratic leaders hope to bring their plan up for a vote this week, when lawmakers return to Washington for a special session. Dodd said he is optimistic that it would win congressional approval, despite distaste among lawmakers in both parties for the idea of pouring taxpayer dollars into companies on the brink of failure.
"Even people who don't like this idea, none of us want to wake up on January 1 and discover we don't have an industry to save," Dodd said.
Others were less sanguine. Richard C. Shelby (Ala.), the senior Republican on the Senate Banking Committee and a staunch opponent of government aid for the car companies, derided the developing plan as "a bridge loan to nowhere." Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Shelby said he may filibuster the proposal in the Senate, a move that would effectively kill it.
Asked whether Democrats have the votes to approve an auto bailout, Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) called that "a complicated question."
If you meant the acquisition of Saturn by Tata and Mahindra, i doubt that the former will do so. Tata recently put a freeze on non-critical acquisitions and has asked the group companies to rein in spending.SaiK wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/10/sa ... index.html
more oppty for tatas and mahindras.