News - Osama Bin Laden - killed In Pakistan

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 02 May 2011 11:17

We could hypothesize three camps in Pindi before OBL met his 72 horny virgin bulls.
1) Knew about OBL and Protected OBL at all costs (The Pure)
2) Knew about OBL but were willing to sell out to the infidels who have $$$ (The less pure, waji-bull material)
3) Did not know about OBL

(3) Would most likely contain folks who are junior, I guess every senior TSPA afsar in pindi would be either in (1) or (2). Obviously this will cause the entire TSPA to split between the pure and the impure much more visibly.

I bray to Allah (pbuh) that a million Quadris be born in Bakistan today, and may they all be in TSPA

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 May 2011 11:17

MSNBC's Michael Ishikoff mentions that the house was just 2 miles off the TSPA military academy.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 02 May 2011 11:18

Yes Singhaji your theory looks very plausible there is high likelihood that they started from Amritsar and reached Jacobabad. Black hawk range suits this radius, gaganji could possibly plot this on a sat image.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 02 May 2011 11:18

ArmenT wrote:Gagan: I have my doubts about the pic. For one, there is no compound wall in the pic and only a sorry looking foot path to the place with no major road in sight. Other houses seem fairly close to it as well. Also, building under a power line?? One small hurricane and the occupants could all be electrocuted. It also looks like a pretty shoddy mansion, by the look of things.

Though I am not sure if its the same house, but those power lines makes the story plausible. powerlines are bad for helos and can be switched off during an impending storm. Shoddier the exterior, the better. Sort of like our picchars in Misc Threads that sets off uniform-camo and helmet ayatollahs off.

This thing where he was holed up, it was build by pakis with loving care for him, 400%

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2011 11:19

Singha wrote:how can apache helis and transport helis take off from Chaklala "without informing the pakistan" military, esp if 40 strong SEAL team embarks. that would generate a instant alert upto the GHQ pindi duty officer and a phone call to Kayani himself. ... without further ado, any 'high value' targets in the area would head for cover.

the "took off from india" theory to me atleast sounds more believeable than took off from chaklala. chaklala is a VIP base used by the jarnails , a mouse farts there they will know.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1076788

kmkraoind wrote:US nuclear submarine docks in Goa

The submarine will undergo minor repairs and maintenance at the Mormugao port. The La Jolla is a Los Angeles-class nuclear-powered fast attack submarine carrying Tomahawk cruise missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, torpedoes and mines.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 May 2011 11:20

The biggest Lulz is that there is no official statement from Paki govt or Ashphuck yet.

Groper shoots his mouth off about every incident, the pakis are in a huddle now.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 May 2011 11:21

GEO Pakistan
TTP says Osama alive
Updated at: 0958 PST, Monday, May 02, 2011
KARACHI: Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has denied the reports that Osama Bin Laden was killed, Geo News reported.

http://www.geo.tv/5-2-2011/80991.htm

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 02 May 2011 11:22

Al Jazeera reports that OBL was staying in the compound for FIVE years. Means he was staying there when Mushy made his famous statement that OBL is not in Pakistan.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 May 2011 11:22

Fox saying most likely burial at sea or send him to KSA.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 May 2011 11:22

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 02 May 2011 11:23

Guys Fox News says that the helis flew from a Paki Airbase

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 02 May 2011 11:23

Jennifer Griffin of FNC reports that the raid was launched from bases in Afghanistan and the body might be buried at sea.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2011 11:23

Time for families of 911 victims to sue Pakistan for hiding OBL thus colluding with a mass murderer.

Sagrawal · Post by **Sagrawal** » 02 May 2011 11:24

Hamid Mir on NDTV is trying to say PA was involved they provided ground support for this OP. I am sure CNN will run it again and again.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 11:24

Pakistan has given a statement.

Ahmed Shuja Pasha gave the statement. (Not Kiyani, Zardari or Gilani)

Guys you should watch NDTV or AAj Tak or Zee News.
Indian security guys are all over these channels and everyone is baying for ISI's blood. BRF language on full flow.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 02 May 2011 11:25

U.S. allies congratulate U.S. on death of Osama bin Laden

David Cameron, Benjamin Netanyahu and Palaniappan Chidambaram. (Jeff Overs, Reuters; Gali Tibbon, AFP/Getty Images; Jason Reed, Reuters)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 7156.story

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 May 2011 11:25

A guy on TV says that: Khaleed Sheikh Mohammad warned of non-conventional attacks if OBL killed (probably just talking out of his musharraf)

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 11:26

they will likely hand it over to his family back in KSA if they want him...and KSA will ensure it will be a pvt ceremony in some unmarked grave somewhere, not a spectacle of millions paying homeage to the departed Pir.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2011 11:27

A_Gupta wrote:GEO Pakistan
TTP says Osama alive
Updated at: 0958 PST, Monday, May 02, 2011
KARACHI: Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has denied the reports that Osama Bin Laden was killed, Geo News reported.

http://www.geo.tv/5-2-2011/80991.htm

This is normal for Pakis. When Bhindranwale was killed in op. bluestar in 1984, PTV showed a fake guy with dadi and Mustache saying he is alive (message was for Indians).

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 11:28

Shuja Pasha confirms that OBL is dead.

shyam · Post by **shyam** » 02 May 2011 11:29

Time for US to pack up from Afghanistan.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2011 11:29

abhishek_sharma wrote:A guy on TV says that: Khaleed Sheikh Mohammad warned of non-conventional attacks if OBL killed (probably just talking out of his musharraf)

Rediff reported last week, AQ warning that if OBL is captured, a nuke will go off in Europe. It is on front page now on rediff.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 02 May 2011 11:30

Thanks Ramana ji, is there any way of getting some obscure hints from authorities in desh that insertion was carried out with Indian guidance? Will give more weightage to what some of us have been saying here!

This will also prove that joint naval exercises like Malabar were designed with such ops in mind!

ADDED LATER: Why cant he just be cremated after all the forensic examinations by all countries having files on him are completed?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 02 May 2011 11:31

US army helicopter raid killed Osama bin Laden

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news ... en/784452/

Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was hiding out in a mansion near a Pakistani military training academy and less than two hours' drive from Islamabad when he was killed in a dramatic CIA-led operation involving helicopters and ground troops on Sunday night.

ManishH · Post by **ManishH** » 02 May 2011 11:31

Folks: operation conducted on amavasya night (vaishakh amavasi) - ideal for SF ops.

AnantD · Post by **AnantD** » 02 May 2011 11:32

kmkraoind wrote:US nuclear submarine docks in Goa

If you read this article, somethings really fishy going on.

1. April 26th visit. May 1 operation.
2. Look at the sailors i.e. seals.....these are the healthiest sailors I've seen.
3. Something about it coming for minor repairs, a USN attack sub comes to Goa for this??? was ther a toilet malunction?
4. Reference from 2007 Nimitz visit, thats so far back, there have been so many malabars since then, again DDM giving away the story.

Not sure where they crossed the border (not necessarily from LOC) and where they took off from in India though. That would be interesting. Could have come from Leh, and taken a northern route ove sparsely populated areas.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 02 May 2011 11:32

Gagan wrote:Pakistan has given a statement.

Ahmed Shuja Pasha gave the statement. (Not Kiyani, Zardari or Gilani)

Guys you should watch NDTV or AAj Tak or Zee News.
Indian security guys are all over these channels and everyone is baying for ISI's blood. BRF language on full flow.

Are their live streams available on the net?? Plz post videos of Indian Security officials' comments....should be interesting...

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 02 May 2011 11:33

Pity the Pakistan Army/ISI they are doomed if they accept that they helped(all qadris will be baying for kiyanahi's blood) if they dont accept that they helped the international community will call their bluff not that it matters to them but still

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 May 2011 11:33

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 2011-5.DTL

Twitter just keeps proving its value as a news source about the Osama Bin Laden raid: check out the tweet stream of Sohaib Athar (@reallyvirtual), an IT consultant who lives in the suddenly famous Pakistani town of Abbottabad.

About 4PM ET (1AM local time), Athar tweeted that a helicopter was circling -- an unusual occurrence in the quiet town. He joked that he had to get his giant fly swatter out.

A couple minutes later, he heard a big explosion. He followed that up with a handful of tweets speculating what was up, and presenting the official government story.

Six hours later, the news broke and Athar realized what he actually heard.

Suddenly, Athar is a minor celebrity fielding emails from the mainstream media.

All he seems to want is for the power to come back on so he can have his morning coffee.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-guy ... z1LAsaLV5K

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 02 May 2011 11:36

AnantD wrote: Not sure where they crossed the border (not necessarily from LOC) and where they took off from in India though. That would be interesting. Could have come from Leh, and taken a northern route ove sparsely populated areas.

Insertion could have taken place through Chitral in Gilgit-Baltistan. If this operation was planned since August 2010, what are the possible links to deployment of 11000 PLA troops in Gilgit-Baltistan by PRC?

That development needs to be seen in new light. Is there a US-India vs TSP-PRC covert alignment going on?

jimmyray · Post by **jimmyray** » 02 May 2011 11:37

Yawn: Senior ISI official confirms bin Laden killed

http://www.dawn.com/2011/05/02/senior-i ... illed.html

“Yes, I can confirm that,” one senior intelligence official told Reuters, but declined to give further details.

Another security official in Peshawar confirmed it was a joint operation between CIA and Pakistani security forces.

“It was carried out on a very precise info that some high-value target is there,” he said.

A Pakistani military helicopter crashed near Abbottabad on Sunday night, killing one and wounding two, according to Pakistani media. It was unclear if the crash was related to bin Laden’s death, but witnesses reported gunshots and heavy firing before one of two low-flying helicopters crashed near the Pakistani Military Academy.

The police blocked the road leading to Pakistan’s military academy, a Reuters photographer on the scene reported.

“I have seen tail and two wings of the chopper,” a labourer told Reuters. The fact bin Laden was apparently living in relative luxury not far from Islamabad could pose awkward questions for Pakistan.

“For some time there will be a lot of tension between Washington and Islamabad because Bin Laden seems to have been living here close to Islamabad,” said Imtiaz Gul, a security analyst.

“If the ISI had known then somebody within the ISI must have leaked this information. Pakistan will have to do a lot of damage control because the Americans have been reporting he is in Pakistan. This is a serious blow to the credibility of Pakistan.”

But defence analyst and former general Talat Masood said the fact bin Laden was killed in a joint operation would limit the damage to Pakistan’s image. “There should be a sigh of relief because this will take some pressure off of Pakistan,” said defence analyst and former general Talat Masood. “Pakistan most probably has contributed to this, and Pakistan can take some credit for this – being such an iconic figure, it’s a great achievement.”

sohamn · Post by **sohamn** » 02 May 2011 11:38

Navy seals conducted the operation.

Pakistan never knew about the operation

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 02 May 2011 11:40

Indian media seems to be constantly hammering on teh fact that it was a purely american op with no knawlidj on part of the ISI/PA and what this means followed by hint-hint statements. Hope it percolates amongst our people too to put pressure on our govt.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 02 May 2011 11:41

The Tallel than Mountain Fliends:
http://world.globaltimes.cn/americas/20 ... 50688.html

6 children, two wives of Bin Laden arrested in Pakistan

* Source: Xinhua
* [13:15 May 02 2011]
* Comments

Local Urdu TV channel Duniya quoted sources as saying that six children, two wives of Osama Bin Laden were arrested along with his four close friends in a search operation launched early Monday morning by the Pakistani forces in a mountainous area located some 60 kilometers north of Pakistan's capital Islamabad. The report said that one of Bin Laden's sons was killed in the operation.

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 02 May 2011 11:41

As per fox news, the compound had 10 feet high walls & floor had high walls with barbed wire
the above pic is not correct

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 11:42

It was not Navy Seals, it was Delta Force as per Al Jazeera TV.

negi · Post by **negi** » 02 May 2011 11:43

An operation of that nature and scale cannot be kept under the radar; basically Unkil did what it wanted to right under TSPA's nose.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 02 May 2011 11:44

This is not a conspiracy theory of any credit taking bravado.......
but a simple two plus two math......

About a week ago (to be precise, on Good Friday), NSA was rife with hectic activities.
Couple of important persons of technical analysis background were supposed to attend
a closed scientific meeting at a place very close to DC. Privately, the hosts of the
meeting informed that these persons are packing their bags to travel outside the country
on an mision extremely important, and happened on a last minute development............

AnantD · Post by **AnantD** » 02 May 2011 11:44

Gagan wrote:It was not Navy Seals, it was Delta Force as per Al Jazeera TV.

Gagan,I think there will be a lot of mis-info, especially thru western and Arap media to put everyone off track and uphold Paki H&D for a month.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 May 2011 11:46

Nobody is answering my question. Assuming TSPA/ISI were hoodwinked, how is it possible for US to pull off something like this so stealthily? Is it possible to send in helicopters and other ammunition without TSPA knowing? I find that hard to believe. Or could it be that the operation was launched, and then TSPA was informed and told them any hanky panky, GHQ and Kahuta will be dust?