Osama Bin Laden Killed in Pakistan-2

[VikramS]

The picture from the so-called SEAL's book looks like something drawn by an arm-chair artist to show the general direction of approach. It is unlikely that the real choppers followed such a "smooth" curve. They did not have a need to take a detour across the LOC. Of course, the ghost writer may have had the wisdom to recognize the true boundaries of J&K and made a Freudian slip.

I would not be surprised if many people knew of black lentils growing in that freshly constructed compound with tall walls and with little awa-gaman, just on the outskirts of the PMA. Abbotabad being a garrison town will have its share of Indian eyes and ears and the compound would have certainly caught an eye or two. Of course whether they would find OBL, or #2, or just another unlucky #3 there may have been a toss-up.

I still wonder about the timing. Why May 2011, when 2012 would have been more useful? When they waited for 10, why not another year?

And Dear Mr/Ms Pentaiah Jaan, Thank You for reminding the (un)faitfools of their duty when shopping.

[nakul]

I still wonder about the timing. Why May 2011, when 2012 would have been more useful? When they waited for 10, why not another year?

Who knows where the Sheikh will be in one year? There are enough faithfools on the planet to provide him accomodation. The last time I checked visas & passports are for kuffars. The pious can move anywhere in the ummah without these kuffar documents.

[Lalmohan]

the seal book looks politically motivated, and not particularly credible
someone is funding a 'counter strike' against obama taking credit for the operation
wouldn't put it past the republicans
after all everything published is unofficial and unvetted - could be entirely pulled from musharraff

[ramana]

Wonder why Osama did not insist on having a tunnel from the building into the TSP army academy for escape
After all he was taught by CIA how to dig tunnels no?

OBL appears to be the poster boy for international jihad promoted diligently during and after Cold War. Once US removed the Taliban govt in Afghanistan (removed safe sanctuary/fortress/castle for AQ and Taliban), OBL has been living a halcyon life in TSP with his four wives and having kids living within Pak Military Academy grounds shadow. For all purposes he was retired from global jihad. One wonder if he ever was active and not just a front for TSPA.

Has his killing reduced the active jihad? The true puppeteers still swill whiskey and their pet dogs still work up against India.

[saip]

pentaiah wrote:

Wonder why Osama did not insist on having a tunnel from the building into the TSP army academy for escape
After all he was taught by CIA how to dig tunnels no?

How do you know there was no tunnel? Osama might have been surprised by Seals and had to no time to scamper. It could be one of the reasons why pakis demolished the house so that no body will ever find out.

[ramana]

saip, What was the last line supposed to mean?

Thanks, ramana

[Anujan]

Osama did not dig tunnels because he didnt think he would be assaulted like this. Fellow lives inside a government compound at a stone's throw distance from Pakistan military academy (which should have had a contingent of Paki army guarding it, with the telebunnies wanting to go green-on-green and all that).

Why would he need a tunnel? Does Ashphuck have a tunnel at home?

He was a honored guest of Pakistan army, protected by Pakistan army, living at the expense of Pakistan army in a house constructed and gifted by them. Why need tunnels saar?

[svinayak]

OBL has dual purpose for both Uncle foriegn policy and also for PA

But PA lost more with OBL death and they had to resolve the issue anyway. It was top kept secret between the US and PA about the role of OBL is global jihad which was a joint project. The idea was to incite large young muslims in middle east and also Indian sub continent and create revolutionary conditions for change.

This is being seen now inside India with new generation minorities taking up the message of OBL in the wake period. This was a 30-40 year project using media and Pakistan establishment to change the dynamics of the region forever.

[saip]

saip, What was the last line supposed to mean?

Thanks, ramana

Nothing personal. I thought his name and the term paki (cleaners of penta in Telugu) do go together. I deleted it.

[ramana]

OK.

[abhishek_sharma]

The Hunt For “Geronimo”

[chaanakya]

The Hunt For “Geronimo”

From above

She(Hillary) noted that the raid would pose a diplomatic nightmare for the State Department. But because the U.S.-Pakistani relationship was built more on mutual dependence than friendship and trust, it would likely survive the crisis.

[ramana]

A clear case of Dr Ayoob's " Subaltern realism" of dependent states....

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 6#p1350346

[chetak]

Osama did not dig tunnels because he didnt think he would be assaulted like this. Fellow lives inside a government compound at a stone's throw distance from Pakistan military academy (which should have had a contingent of Paki army guarding it, with the telebunnies wanting to go green-on-green and all that).

Why would he need a tunnel? Does Ashphuck have a tunnel at home?

He was a honored guest of Pakistan army, protected by Pakistan army, living at the expense of Pakistan army in a house constructed and gifted by them. Why need tunnels saar?

There would have been a tunnel.

Big rats and bandicoots always have tunnels.

How did he survive that long if he did not have "tunnels"??

Even he would not have trusted the pakis under any circumstances.

[svenkat]

intelligence analysts had become aware of a curious compound just outside Abbottabad, a prosperous city about 30 miles northeast of Islamabad. Too wary to use cell phones or Internet links, bin Laden relied on couriers to distribute his letters and occasional video and audio pronouncements.

They went by assumed names: Ahmed called himself Arshad Khan, and the brother went by Tariq Khan. They had never been wealthy, but their accommodations were expensive. The brothers were also wary. They burned their trash on-site. None of their children attended school.

An agency team was now living in a house in the neighborhood. They watched the comings and goings of the Ahmed brothers. They counted the pieces of laundry that were hung out to dry.

Bin Laden instructed his wife Amal to leave the lights off, though they would not have been able to turn them on anyway: C.I.A. operatives had cut the electricity to the entire neighborhood.

And we are to believe that US does not know who sheltered Osama in Abbotbad.

The US are the greatest turds/terrorists(next to British) for us.

[ramana]

NY Post....

AlQ on the march across the globe

Two years after SEALs got bin Laden

By PETER BROOKES
Last Updated: 12:01 AM, May 2, 2013
Posted: 11:44 PM, May 1, 2013


Two years ago today, SEAL Team Six sent Osama bin Laden on his way to Davy Jones’ Locker — but his Islamist terror machine is anything but sinking to the depths. It remains a vicious, global threat.

Since Osama’s demise, the terror group’s strength has ebbed in some areas, but flowed strongly in others.

Indeed, one current estimate concludes that al Qaeda affiliates and associates (i.e., groups, cells or operatives) are active in more than 30 countries (of some 190) on four continents.

Including our continent. While we don’t yet know the whole story behind the Boston bombing, just last week in Chicago the feds arraigned an American teen, who wanted to join an al Qaeda-linked group in Syria. Oh, and the Canadians busted up a plot to bomb a Toronto-New York train, supported by al Qaeda operatives in Iran.

That same week, the Spanish arrested suspects linked to al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.

In Syria, the most effective fighting force against the Bashar al Assad regime is al Qaeda & Co. The main group, Jabhat al-Nusra, has conducted suicide attacks and seeks an Islamist state under sharia law. (The feds have also charged a former American GI for fighting alongside al Nusrah.)

The Syrian group works closely with al Qaeda in Iraq, which once again numbers in the thousands. It has rebounded from the departure of US forces in 2011 and is the source of ghastly violence across the country.

The Iraqi and Syrian al Qaeda allies have reportedly proclaimed the creation of an Islamist state called “al Sham.” The Associated Press reports that they’ve set up camps along the Syria-Iraq border.

Al Qaeda has also popped up in the Sinai in Egypt.

To the South in Yemen, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (once deemed al Qaeda’s most dangerous wing) continues the fight, although weakened due to the government’s efforts and US drone strikes.

Al Qaeda is surging in Africa as well.

Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and its splinter groups have been on a tear since the fall of Libya’s Moamar Khaddafy. AQIM and its allies are responsible for terror attacks in Libya (including on the US consulate in Benghazi last fall and on the French embassy last week), as well as the deadly raid on a gas plant in Algeria.

In Mali, Ansar al Dine once held ground the size of Texas. French troops forced a retreat — but the Islamist insurgency continues..

Elsewhere in Africa, the Nigerian government is battling al Qaeda’s kindred spirit, Boko Haram. In Somalia, al Shabab has suffered setbacks, but hasn’t given up the ghost by any stretch.

In Russia, al Qaeda has long seen the Caucasus as a key battlefield in the fight against the infidels. Chechnya supplies fighters to Syria and an al Qaeda-linked group operates in the shadows in neighboring Dagestan.

The terror group is holding on in Asia, too.

In Pakistan and Afghanistan, al Qaeda’s “core” is weakened, but its allies like the Taliban, Lashkar e Taiba and others fight on, seeking control of those countries.

[bWhile Osama’s a goner, al Qaeda’s not. Some al Qaeda acolytes are in the doldrums, but others have the wind in their sails.

The comforting narrative that we’re in a post-al Qaeda world is just plain wrong. The terrorists’ goal of a global caliphate built through violence isn’t relegated to the history books yet — and complacency on our part is a sure killer.[/b]

Peter Brookes is a Heritage Foundation senior fellow and a former deputy assistant secretary of defense.
Twitter: @Brookes_Peter

[RamaY]

^ The west is on the right path to become Pakistan. They support terrorism as state policy (that is exactly what they did in Iraq, Libya and now Syria) and they shall reap the benefits.