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A_Gupta wrote:

Pakistan desires “peace with dignity”

For that, the perpetual jihad they wage against dignity must end.

Pakis are indeed fighting for dignity as they define dignity. No one fights for so long, and with so much steadfastness and conviction as pakis have done, unless it is for core beliefs and genuinely-felt psychological needs. (It follows that you can't end that jihad by demanding its end, or even wishing for it to end as some pakis do. You can only end it either by psychological transformation aimed at teaching pakis that (a) they are wrong and (b) they will never get what they desire, so they should give up.)

For pakis it is an indignity to see inferior Hindus act as if they are as good as Muslims, by right. They don't mind treating Hindus with a semblance of respect as long as it is strictly volitional on their part, and it is perfectly understood that the Hindus are at the Muslims' mercy which can be withdrawn as needed or at a whim.

(It may be that "Muslims" should be replaced by "ashrafs--what BRF calls TFTAs--but the ashraf psychological dominance over Muslims in general is so complete that it is not useful at this time to make that distinction).

Hindus by and large see this granting of respect (which elevates pakis' own sense of dignity and condescension and can sometimes take exaggerated forms like not charging Indian visitors for chai) and confuse it with their own attitude which is that all are equal, by constitutional, and increasingly, social, right, and therefore have an inherent right the same respect. Because of this confusion, Hindus get disappointed and enraged when Muslims exercise their whim and go on the rampage against Hindus.

Pakistan was created because Jinnah's sense of dignity was offended at SDREs acting like they owned India, and didn't appreciate the fact that TFTAs are the true owners, willing to condescend to be "secular". Jinnah's umbrage tapped into a deep-seated TFTA fear of being insulted by having to compete on inherently equal terms with SDREs.

Indians qua Hindus don't get any lasting psychological benefit from subduing Pakistan and the TFTAs, the motivation has been physical self-defense. By keeping the physical attacks at relative pin-prick levels of terrorism, Pakistan has managed to mitigate not just the Indian response, but the Indian will and desire to fight and crush its enemy.

We SDREs have become very poor in our understanding of psychology, both ours and that of the enemy; even more to the point, we have become poor in recognizing the key role of psychology for survival. We should be waging jihad for our psychological survival, as well as defending ourselves physically.

Peregrine wrote:

increase the per capita income from $1,299 to $4,200

anupmisra Ji :

As per Pakistan Economic Survey 2013-2014 the Per Capita Income is US$ 1,386!

Peregrineji, you just make their job easier. Besides, as you know, you must add a 10% factor for data corruption (blame it on kufr machines), 25% factor for data inaccuracy (darn terrorists in KP and Balochistan prevent accurate data collection), 15% factor being a believer (pbuh said so), and 50% for the informal economy. Their current per capita income is more than $2700 which clearly illustrates the middle income nature of their economy.

SSridhar wrote:Pakistani serials gain a foothold in India - Anita Joshua, The Hindu

The phenomenal viewership for the handful of Pakistani television serials that have been aired on Zee’s Zindagi channel since its launch on June 23 has cut across class and gender. From a grandmother watching it with her pre-teen granddaughter with the son catching one of the repeats and a colony beauty parlour running the channel through the day, the clientele is wide and hooked.

“The themes of these stories — which mainly focus on the problems of women — often remind one of the storylines of Hindi films of the 1960s and 70s. But it is the handling of the subjects, the refined language, which is a mix of Urdu and Punjabi but sounds so much like the language that was spoken in our households till about 30 years ago, that comes as a pleasant change,” says Aradhana Bhatnagar, who is in her seventies. “I am just glad that I get to see these serials with my granddaughter since it will help her pick up the language.”

Apart from the business gains and the footprint that Pakistani television industry has got in India, Zindagi has challenged some deep misconceptions Indians have about Pakistan.

There are at least three things going on here:

1. The reporter is offering only anecdotal evidence, not actual journalistic research, and wants us to accept on faith her anecdotal evidence that Indians have "misconceptions" about Pakistan (a) without stating what those misconceptions may be and (b) by conflating some drama featuring some segment of Pakistanis with the macro-phenomenon of Pakistan.

2. To the extent we can imagine what misconceptions she has in mind, namely that, aside from wanting to crush Hindus and all minorities, Pakis are normal people who eat food, have mother-in-law problems etc., the reporter has a point but not the one she is trying to make. Hindus / Indians in general have a hard time reconciling apparent normalcy and humanity of pakis with their collective unquestioning embrace of the supremacist ethic. Independence and the Constitution have given expression to what has always been a core egalitarian Hindu ethos, and Indians see the world, and pakis in particular, only through that prism, and conclude that supremacists must not be quite human. Therefore, when they see supremacists acting human as in this drama, they mistakenly but logically infer (by reductio ad absurdum) that pakis must not be supremacists.

3. The anecdote chosen is instructive. The 70-year old punjabi lady expressing nostalgia for an idyllic golden age when TFTA pakis and Hindus lived as one in Lahore, all spouting away in chaste Punjabi-Urdu creole-of-a-creole (!) as opposed to today's English-Hindustani patois / proto-creole, implies that the latter is much inferior to the former, when both are simply b***tardized linguistic formations with no inherent superiority or inferiority.

This trope or meme of nostalgia for paki days among refugee families and their descendants is something hardly explored in current Indian thought and even on BRF. Yet this cultural and emotional meme has dominated so much of Indian thinking about Pakistan, all wrong in my opinion.

To me that Hindu article reads like a paid article.

arun wrote:So much for pretensions of the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that Bedouin Arabs view them as anything more than a bunch of Miskeens . Saudi Arabia has reportedly passed a law that ban’s Saudi Arabian men marrying women from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Ban also includes women from Mohammadden majority Bangladesh, Chad and Morocco:

Saudi Men Banned From Marrying Bengali, Pakistani, Chadian, Burmese Women

Baki naMard should emulate their Saudi Fourfathers and also not marry Paki womens folk.

Stick to goats and camels.

shiv wrote:To me that Hindu article reads like a paid article.

The reporter Anita Joshua was, IIRC, the Hindu's pakistan correspondent till she got chucked out. She wrote about sweet memories of kind treatment by pakis etc. after her return IIRC.

So, if it is paid, it may be a case of getting paid for what one is inclined to write anyway. I am more inclined to think that she is eager to show SDREs the error of their ways in hating the TFTAs. Feeding one's sense of moral superiority and the ability to talk down to the unwashed has a lot of unquantifiable value.

I think we need to read the book to come to any useful conclusions.

Pakistan self idea of being a new Medina is fed on delusions from the British Blunt project, circa 1890s, of creating a new successor Caliphate to the decaying Ottoman Empire or Sublime Porte.

In fact Hamid Gul is on record of hoping AlQ led by OBL would erase the old Mecca-Medina in a Khyamat (end of world/Bibilical Book of Revelations meme) way leaving islamabad as the new Medina.

KLNMurthy wrote:

SSridhar wrote:Pakistani serials gain a foothold in India - Anita Joshua, The Hindu

There are at least three things going on here:

1. The reporter is offering only anecdotal evidence, not actual journalistic research, and wants us to accept on faith her anecdotal evidence that Indians have "misconceptions" about Pakistan (a) without stating what those misconceptions may be and (b) by conflating some drama featuring some segment of Pakistanis with the macro-phenomenon of Pakistan.

2. To the extent we can imagine what misconceptions she has in mind, namely that, aside from wanting to crush Hindus and all minorities, Pakis are normal people who eat food, have mother-in-law problems etc., the reporter has a point but not the one she is trying to make. Hindus / Indians in general have a hard time reconciling apparent normalcy and humanity of pakis with their collective unquestioning embrace of the supremacist ethic. Independence and the Constitution have given expression to what has always been a core egalitarian Hindu ethos, and Indians see the world, and pakis in particular, only through that prism, and conclude that supremacists must not be quite human. Therefore, when they see supremacists acting human as in this drama, they mistakenly but logically infer (by reductio ad absurdum) that pakis must not be supremacists.

3. The anecdote chosen is instructive. The 70-year old punjabi lady expressing nostalgia for an idyllic golden age when TFTA pakis and Hindus lived as one in Lahore, all spouting away in chaste Punjabi-Urdu creole-of-a-creole (!) as opposed to today's English-Hindustani patois / proto-creole, implies that the latter is much inferior to the former, when both are simply b***tardized linguistic formations with no inherent superiority or inferiority.

This trope or meme of nostalgia for paki days among refugee families and their descendants is something hardly explored in current Indian thought and even on BRF. Yet this cultural and emotional meme has dominated so much of Indian thinking about Pakistan, all wrong in my opinion.

Posted earlier by me on this thread:

arun wrote:Rather surprised to hear that my fellow citizens like TV programmes from the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan . Surprised as a straw poll conducted by me among the demographic of native Hindi speakers showed a complete lack of interest for Pakistani TV fare with only one individual admitting to have watched the channel out of curiosity and found it to be mediocre and hence has stopped.

It looks to me that the spate of stories about the love of Indian’s for Pakistani TV shows culminating with the two below has more to do with Zee TV planting stories to advertise the channel . Or perhaps I picked the wrong demographic with pre-partition Punjabi nostalgia coupled with interest of India’s Muslim population fuelling this liking:?: :

Why do Indians like Pakistani soap operas so much? An Indian television channel is airing syndicated content from Pakistan for the first time. Several of the shows have become surprise hits

Zindagi channel treats Indian viewers to the best Pakistani dramas on offer

KLNMurthy wrote: Pakis are indeed fighting for dignity as they define dignity. No one fights for so long, and with so much steadfastness and conviction as pakis have done, unless it is for core beliefs and genuinely-felt psychological needs. (It follows that you can't end that jihad by demanding its end, or even wishing for it to end as some pakis do. You can only end it either by psychological transformation aimed at teaching pakis that (a) they are wrong and (b) they will never get what they desire, so they should give up.)

For pakis it is an indignity to see inferior Hindus act as if they are as good as Muslims, by right. They don't mind treating Hindus with a semblance of respect as long as it is strictly volitional on their part, and it is perfectly understood that the Hindus are at the Muslims' mercy which can be withdrawn as needed or at a whim.

We have seen that Pakistan has defined victory not as "having prevailed" but as "having survived to fight another day despite having their ars*s kicked and their faces rubbed in the mud". Similarly, they will not give up no matter how remote their desire is from being satisfied. The psychological transformation teaching them that they are wrong cannot happen as long as they remain in the literal grip of the Quran.

IMO, what Hindus have to do (anyway) is to be spectacularly successful, so that Pakistanis consume themselves like Bhasmasura.

Rants of a severely demented paki. Unsung heroes
By Dr A Q Khan, Hollandwaley.

You all know that I returned to Pakistan, without any monetary incentives or bargaining, when the very existence of our country was in danger. I gave up my job with bright future prospects, gave this country most sophisticated technology worth billions, but still I had to face intrigues and plots by self-centred opportunists.

When I accepted Mr Bhutto’s request to stay in Pakistan (giving up everything in Europe and my wife having to leave her elderly parents behind), I was appointed as adviser to PAEC at a meager salary of Rs3,000 per month

As I had a doctorate degree in engineering and vast experience...

And, as I am very good looking and athletic, even by TFTA Pakistani standards, I was soon surrounded by 72 beautiful blonde virgins with no clothes and they asked me.....No wait! That's part of another dream!

anupmisra wrote:

Masha Allah! There is going to be a solar eclipse in 2025?

Why does it look like Mr.Smily sleeping on a curvy bed with one eye closed

If you follow the book, you shall attain your 72 in Jannat. It is attaining 72 in Jannat that matters, and not about "bettering" tomorrow. The mullahs should send their favorite kasai to slit the throat and make bull-cutlet of whoever came up with this.

An interesting anecdote that C Fair mentions in one of her interactions..

She says usually the ISI handlers always accompanied her during her interactions with other officers. Turns out the ISI handler had gone missing in one of her interactions. This was during Kargil. A major ( or a colonel I forget ) pulls her to the side and says "this is unfair, northern light infantry is mostly shia and these people are claiming sunni mujaheddin are on the kargil peaks. our boys are laying down their lives out there and sunnis are getting all the credit".

This comes even after a white person (C Fair) denounced Bakistan and showed it for what it is:

We can have dialogue on Kashmir under ambit of 'insaniyat': Govt

NEW DELHI: Expressing desire to bring about permanent solution to the Kashmir issue, the government on Monday night said it is willing to have any dialogue under the ambit of 'insaniyat' (humanity) to address the problem and favours good relations with Pakistan.

"We want to find a permanent solution to Kashmir issue. We are ready for any kind of dialogue within Constitutional framework... If necessary, we are even willing to hold dialogue within the framework of 'insaniyat'," home minister Rajnath Singh informed the Rajya Sabha.

In this context, he sought the cooperation of opposition Congress if it could help in any manner.

He said India also wants good relations with Pakistan and is ready to hold talks with that country to end the problem of infiltration.

shiv wrote:

Jarita wrote:What is this crazy fear mongering by western stink tanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIRr4AXb_xU

These people are salivating at the thought of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan

I thought that video is actually very good. Lots of people need to see it because it tells the truth about Pakistan AND speaks of India as Pakistan sees India. It does not tell lies about innocent Pakistan and say "India claims this, Pakistan claims that"

This video shows what I have been partly predicting and partly hoping. India has been at risk from Pakistani nukes from the 1980s. Nobody was bothered. But when jihad spreads to others - others too are at risk.

I am sure the US can use a small part of the 20 trillion dollars the man speaks of to set up sea water RO plants in Pakistan. That will keep Pakis quiet for some time. Then they will kick up something else that makes the west given them money.

Guys, this is some 4am infomercial for this huckster selling a pump and dump stock scheme to Joe Blow to separate him from his money. Pakis spending 300 billion on desalination Graphene removing radiation from nucular water

Young Muslims defend decision to fly Islamic black flag at gates of east London council estate

Young Muslims today defended the flying of a black flag above the gates of an east London council estate.

Youths at the gates to the Will Crooks estate, in Poplar, branded objectors to the flag – which has been adopted by some jihadist groups – as “racist”.

The flag was removed yesterday for the second time following two visits from Met officers in as many days. It was hung there alongside the Palestinian flag as part of an “end the siege in Gaza” protest.

Cheers

A_Gupta wrote:

KLNMurthy wrote: Pakis are indeed fighting for dignity as they define dignity. No one fights for so long, and with so much steadfastness and conviction as pakis have done, unless it is for core beliefs and genuinely-felt psychological needs. (It follows that you can't end that jihad by demanding its end, or even wishing for it to end as some pakis do. You can only end it either by psychological transformation aimed at teaching pakis that (a) they are wrong and (b) they will never get what they desire, so they should give up.)

For pakis it is an indignity to see inferior Hindus act as if they are as good as Muslims, by right. They don't mind treating Hindus with a semblance of respect as long as it is strictly volitional on their part, and it is perfectly understood that the Hindus are at the Muslims' mercy which can be withdrawn as needed or at a whim.

We have seen that Pakistan has defined victory not as "having prevailed" but as "having survived to fight another day despite having their ars*s kicked and their faces rubbed in the mud". Similarly, they will not give up no matter how remote their desire is from being satisfied. The psychological transformation teaching them that they are wrong cannot happen as long as they remain in the literal grip of the Quran.

IMO, what Hindus have to do (anyway) is to be spectacularly successful, so that Pakistanis consume themselves like Bhasmasura.

Bhasmasura's destruction requires Mohini as an active agent leading the asura to his destruction. Simply prospering won't be enough.

^^^ Yes, so we have to defend and propagate "polytheism" as far and wide as we can. We have to help "polytheistic" people like the Yazidi as much as we can.

VikasRaina wrote:Why does it look like Mr.Smily sleeping on a curvy bed with one eye closed

That's a Pakistani lady with an Islamic star shaped bindi

^^ Then why is the "lady" smiling. And there is no such thing as a Pakistani lady! Either they are Bakistani Shemales or gentlemards.

I think it is a Baki "gentlemard" dressed as a female dreaming about serving 72 Saud Barbarians...

'India under polio threat from Pakistan' :

Times Of India

disha wrote:^^ Then why is the "lady" smiling. And there is no such thing as a Pakistani lady! Either they are Bakistani Shemales or gentlemards.

I think it is a Baki "gentlemard" dressed as a female dreaming about serving 72 Saud Barbarians...

It is the bindi that offers release from Pakistaniyat

arun wrote:'India under polio threat from Pakistan' :

Times Of India

arun Ji :

India must seal its Border with Pakistan otherwise India is looking at the "Re-starting" of Polio Epidemic in India.

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Civil War!

Qadri’s agenda is civil war: Iqbal

Iqbal said the government would not let Pakistan become Iraq or Syria

WHO says polio virus from Pak has spread to Israel, Iraq

LONDON: India may be gearing up against Ebola but a more serious threat is at hand.

The World Health Organisation has confirmed that poliovirus from Pakistan has spread to Israel, West Bank and Gaza, and Iraq.

WHO admitted that currently Pakistan appears likely to become the last polio endemic country in the world. This poses a serious threat to neighbours India which was in March 2014 declared polio free.

Cheers

Unfortunately it seems that operation zarb-e-zabzab has actually reduced the runs being scored in Pakistan.

Some WKK coward shivering in his dhothi at Modi merely mentioning the obvious, TSP's terrorist proxy war against India

http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/a ... 51216.aspx

DoCJi, run rate going down is disappointing. In the absence of state support, batsman ("bad terrorists") lose their steam. And due to this lack of state support, TSPA is having a ball annihilating and bowling out the batsman.

CRamS wrote:Some WKK coward shivering in his dhothi at Modi merely mentioning the obvious, TSP's terrorist proxy war against India

http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/a ... 51216.aspx

DoCJi, run rate going down is disappointing. In the absence of state support, batsman ("bad terrorists") lose their steam. And due to this lack of state support, TSPA is having a ball annihilating and bowling out the batsman.

HT is a Congressi mouthpiece. The Congressi thought process is that we should not do anything to offend the Pak jarnails.

CRamS wrote:Some WKK coward shivering in his dhothi at Modi merely mentioning the obvious, TSP's terrorist proxy war against India

http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/a ... 51216.aspx

CRamS Ji :

There is no point in addressing Krittivas Mukherjee and elevating him to the exalted rank of "WKK coward shivering in his dhothi".

IMHO, with due respect, please let him know your views as well as question his (Krittivas Mukherjee) on [email protected].

Cheers

CRamS wrote:DoCJi, run rate going down is disappointing. In the absence of state support, batsman ("bad terrorists") lose their steam. And due to this lack of state support, TSPA is having a ball annihilating and bowling out the batsman.

One Run plus Four for Overthrow!

Violent incidents claim five lives in DI Khan

DERA ISMAIL KHAN: Five persons including a policeman were killed and two others injured in two different violent incidents in Dera Ismail Khan on Tuesday, Geo News reported.

Cheers

anupmisra wrote:Civil War!

Qadri’s agenda is civil war: Iqbal

Iqbal said the government would not let Pakistan become Iraq or Syria

An update of the above hyperbole. Another exalted paki minister chimes in with this comparison: Pakistan will not be turned into Somalia, Libya or Syria: Nisar‏. For good measure, eyeraq was added to the above esteemed list of malsic nations soon to explode like an internal combustion engine with no silencers.

no one would be allowed to turn Pakistan into Somalia, Iraq, Libya or Syria

If a violent mob is allowed to come to Islamabad, then every month a mob after mob would attack Islamabad to capture the seat of government

That's right baki citizens. If one month one group asks for equality, then the next month another group will ask for equality. You should stop this trend right now. By the way, lets not forget the pecking order of these four countries based on their per capita GDPs (2013) compared to al bakistan:

Libya: $12,167
Iraq: $6,670
Syria: $5,100 (2011)
Al Bakistan: $1,299
Somalia:$226

Easier for the bakis to slide down to al Somalia than climb up to al Syria, right? One wit commented:

If you live in Karachi, it already feels like Somalia.

The problem with Pakistan is that the El-Bakistanis are too useless to even do a proper revolution at home

So Asma Jehangir is a Quadiani?

X Posted on the Islamophobia Thread

Vatican calls on Muslim leaders to denouce IS brutality

VATICAN CITY / BAGHDAD: The Vatican on Tuesday called for Muslim leaders to denounce the brutality of Islamic State (IS) militants who have swept across Iraq, saying there was no possible justification for their “unspeakable crimes”.

The council said Islamic State militants were guilty of the “heinous practice of decapitation, crucifixion and stringing up bodies in public places”, “kidnapping women and young girls”, and “the barbarous practice of infibulation” among other things.

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^^^
Pakistanis and Arabs displaying their Pakistaniyat !

Islamic nations have never ever been critical of the worst depravity committed by Muslims on Muslims. On the other hand they are always quick to take offence at criticism and claim Islam is a religion of peace. Where is that Malaysian minister who claimed that a few years ago. Someone please find him. The entire world has to laugh and mock them before they will come to their senses.

I am shocked that One muslim is bringing on such horror to another muslim!

It seems the west has caught on to India's policy well.
These terrorist apes of ISIS want to kill, if they can't kill kafirs, they'll kill munafiqs.
Trouble in the middle east, and the horrific pictures of how these evil people are outdoing each other in killing and maimimg, is sure to divert all islamic fighters from Pakistan and all over to those locales to earn their sawab.

We see a similar situation to Afghanistan emerging, the Kurdish resistance are the equivalent of the Northern Alliance in Pakistan. Again there, it is the Pakistanis (and arabs) who are the perpetrators of horrific terror acts.

Actually I want to give support to ISIS. They are atleast true to their religion and showing some of the WKK's, the real face of Barbaran Ideology.
Pretty soon, we will see same tools being employed in TSP since anything that happens in Arab Land has to be copied in Bakistan and when I say Bakistan I mean the so called 'liberal' face of TSP like Isloo, Punjab and Karachi.
We will see less green hung on the roadside, women of Non-Sunni's kidnapped and made slaves, Terror heads declaring themselves Khalifa and all this in the name of Islam.

So immy wanted a supreme court hearing on rigging charges. Nawaz gave an address to Pakistan and agreed !!

Now immy says that's not enough and wants Nawaz to resign and interim government of technocrats appointed

http://www.dawn.com/news/1125041/lawyer ... r-sc-probe

For some weird reason Nawaz comes across as scared, cornered and reasonable. Immy comes across as a petulant child making bigger and bigger demands. Popcorn time.

Also click here for some important statement regarding the march