Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 10 Oct
Posted: 16 Oct 2014 20:15
chaanakya and others please take the GOI functioning talk out of this thread....
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Read the comments, NYT readers have come down her like a ton of bricks!CRamS wrote:Guys. whats it with NYT giving a lot of space to TSP RAPEs. Yesterady, there was Mosharaff Zaidi, and today some RAPEette talking about how TSP is pristine but only has an image problem in the manner in which white west portrays it. If Indian elites have that colonial disease forever seeking west's gaze, TSP RAPEs who believe they are the west's TFTA counterparts in the region are so jolted when the whites portray them as terrorist pigLeTs that they are
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/opini ... gnize.html
Meaning that they have not yet been incited. I am waiting.We have source (in Kashmir) besides the (Pakistan) army...People in Kashmir are fighting against (India). We just need to incite them,
Hmm why should civilians fight if the Army is ready - sounds like there is a problemthe army is ready for war (with India) and lakhs of people in Pakistan are willing to go and fight for Kashmir.
Aha. There has been a problem. Allah is being invoked "We are Moslems" he saysIn Kashmir, we can fight with the (Indian) army from both the front and back...We are Muslims. We will not show the other cheek when we are slapped. We can respond tit for tat,
duh. Does that mean that they are internally weak? I thought he justsaid they are strong, they are Muslims blah blahexternal aggression happens only when the country remains internally weak. "If we remain strong internally, no one can dare to target us."
Aaaaah I see. So Nawaz Sharif is a problem."Modi is anti-Muslim and anti-Pakistan. He has not changed. The problem is with us... We are running to attend his (Modi) inauguration, we should keep our dignity."
They have to talk tough to show that they are not hurt and that they have survived and have won the latest round because India has gained nothing. That is all.Anujan wrote:Something that genuinely surprises me. I know our retaliation along LoC was punitive, but why has all of pakistan gone nuts over it? Doing 40,000 rounds to the UN, everyone and his grandmother issuing statements. I wouldnt worry about the Af-Pak guy: Pakis probably went round every foreign national and asked them to comment and this Af-Pak guy shot off something undiplomatic that they then printed all over the place. Anyway I digress.
Coming back to the original point, why are they going nuts? I mean honestly speaking, even if they lost a few due to Indian firing, it is not that big a deal for them: They regularly lose people due to landslides, avalanches, floods and so on. The entire country is gone hysterical.
Or is it just the civilians showing solidarity with the Khakhis to show who can yell the loudest?
Recall the Kommandu Nosey of 65 boasting Bue arr Mozlem, farting comes natural to us. Anyhow, it will good to promote overt ISIS style activism in the Valley . This will provide rare chance to uproot the poison Ivy for good. World will be happy to get rid of this filth .shiv wrote:I tried to watch the video of the Musharraf interview but 38 min is too long - so I stopped after 37 seconds. However I will reach my conclusions from ToI quotes
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 836162.cmsMeaning that they have not yet been incited. I am waiting.]In Kashmir, we can fight with the (Indian) army from both the front and back...We are Muslims. We will not show the other cheek when we are slapped. We can respond tit for tat,Aha. There has been a problem. Allah is being invoked "We are Moslems" he saysWe have source (in Kashmir) besides the (Pakistan) army...People in Kashmir are fighting against (India). We just need to incite them,
Baki lives are cheap and expendable.Anujan wrote:Something that genuinely surprises me. I know our retaliation along LoC was punitive, but why has all of pakistan gone nuts over it? Doing 40,000 rounds to the UN, everyone and his grandmother issuing statements. I wouldnt worry about the Af-Pak guy: Pakis probably went round every foreign national and asked them to comment and this Af-Pak guy shot off something undiplomatic that they then printed all over the place. Anyway I digress.
Coming back to the original point, why are they going nuts? I mean honestly speaking, even if they lost a few due to Indian firing, it is not that big a deal for them: They regularly lose people due to landslides, avalanches, floods and so on. The entire country is gone hysterical.
Or is it just the civilians showing solidarity with the Khakhis to show who can yell the loudest?
TEHRAN – Iran will step into contain terrorists if Pakistan refuses to take measures in order to secure its borders to keep terrorists from slipping into the Islamic Republic, Press TV quoted a senior Iranian military commander as saying.“We believe that every country should respect its commitments vis-à-vis its own internal security as well as that of neighbouring countries. Border security is a common and pressing need for neighbouring countries. We are, in principle, against intervening in the affairs of any country, but if they fail to abide by their obligations we will have [no choice but] to act,” said Brigadier General Hossein Salami – the second-in-command of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC).“Terrorists, wherever they may be, even on the soil of neighbouring countries, we will find them, and if they do not give up acts of terrorism, we will deal with them without reservation,” he said. “One of the prerequisites of establishing security is possessing complete intelligence,” he said, adding the Guards Corps has clear knowledge of the status of terrorist groups in the region.According to the agreement, Pakistan and Iran are required to cooperate in preventing and combating organised crime, fighting terrorism and countering the activities that pose a threat to the national security of either country.
( Paki Fishing Chief and Kite flying/ Fizzleaya Chief have already met)ISLAMABAD – The National Security Committee met on Thursday under the chairmanship of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.Interior Affairs Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali, Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif, ISI director general, Foreign Affairs Secretary Aizaz Ahmed Chuadhry and other senior civil and military officials also attended the meeting.The issues related to regional and internal security with particular reference to the situation on the eastern and western borders came under discussion during the meeting. Sources said that the meeting's agenda was to discuss the ongoing Zorr-be-Kabz military operation along with the situation at the eastern and western borders.Recent incidents of firing at the Line of Control and the working boundary also came under discussion. The sources said that the military leadership briefed the meeting about progress in the ongoing operation in the tribal areas and the situation along the working boundary and the Line of Control in the disputed state of Jammu Kashmir.
Well, a large number of them have never supported monkey tamasha either. As Gul hissed in that interview, the shelling gives them an opportunity to resuscitate the 2 nation theory (which he alleged was being buried in pureland), bury monkey tamasha etc.Anujan wrote:Something that genuinely surprises me. I know our retaliation along LoC was punitive, but why has all of pakistan gone nuts over it? Doing 40,000 rounds to the UN, everyone and his grandmother issuing statements. I wouldnt worry about the Af-Pak guy: Pakis probably went round every foreign national and asked them to comment and this Af-Pak guy shot off something undiplomatic that they then printed all over the place. Anyway I digress.
Coming back to the original point, why are they going nuts? I mean honestly speaking, even if they lost a few due to Indian firing, it is not that big a deal for them: They regularly lose people due to landslides, avalanches, floods and so on. The entire country is gone hysterical.
Or is it just the civilians showing solidarity with the Khakhis to show who can yell the loudest?
Yeah, as I said, we now have dovalish government instead of the dovish government we had before.Karan M wrote: Now being what they are, they will continue to provoke - I think Doval and Modi know that and that is going to unleash more trouble for Pak.
Ah! NOW u r using MY brain, as Laurel said to Hardy. The point is that whatever happens ALONG LOC does not get reported inside TSP. This time whatever happened DID cause major wetting of pajamas and could not be concealed. Therefore it could not have been just "along LOC". Anyway what "infrastructure" is there along LOC? Looks like fairly large army camps were hit, quite visible to the surrounding civilian population, and the Burkha Fauj was reported to be "hiding in the villages". I thought this was because they had skiied downhill from their border posts, but it looks like they were skiiing from their cantonments.surprises me. I know our retaliation along LoC was punitive
Heh. I thought the NYTimes had taken to disabling comments Pak related stories.Dipanker wrote:
Read the comments, NYT readers have come down her like a ton of bricks!
One can basically bring the whole LoC firing and Terrorism against India to a finish, if India decides to retaliate each time by annexing or rather liberating some territory across the LoC, say 10 villages! And never to return that land!UlanBatori wrote:Ah! NOW u r using MY brain, as Laurel said to Hardy. The point is that whatever happens ALONG LOC does not get reported inside TSP. This time whatever happened DID cause major wetting of pajamas and could not be concealed. Therefore it could not have been just "along LOC". Anyway what "infrastructure" is there along LOC? Looks like fairly large army camps were hit, quite visible to the surrounding civilian population, and the Burkha Fauj was reported to be "hiding in the villages". I thought this was because they had skiied downhill from their border posts, but it looks like they were skiiing from their cantonments.surprises me. I know our retaliation along LoC was punitive
Ramana, the type of response to cross-border firing and terrorist attacks was EXTENSIVELY debated on BRF in 1998-2002. The only solution was found to be asymmetric response, but not in casualty numbers. The solution is to stay calm, deny everything, act innocent, and DESTROY infrastructure (which costs real $$ unlike abdul jehadis) and hit the Senior Officer Corps and their possessions - and weaken both so that the various Liberation Movements are confident of rising and establishing themselves before the PA can project sufficient force (reduced C^3, reduced rail and bridges). From what has happened, it looks for the first time in over a decade like Indian defence policy is being run by people who have and can read.
Like.. one shell falls near an Indian village - a missile takes out a Paki Fauji Foundation warehouse, a few $$M worth of hashish goes up in smoke. No injuries etc necessary.
Whenever a Western movie contains a connection to Pakistan, we watch it in a sadomasochistic way, eager and nervous to see how the West observes us. We look to see if we come across to you as monsters, and then to see what our new, monstrous face looks like. Again and again, we see a refracted, distorted image of our homeland staring back at us. We know we have monsters among us, but this isn’t what we look like to ourselves. {Bakis need the west to pat them on their back, they are looking to get validated by the west. Is this RAPE behavior onleeee I wonder. }
There have been previous international attempts to portray Pakistan on film: “A Mighty Heart,” about the kidnapping and murder of Daniel Pearl; or “Zero Dark Thirty,” about the assassination of Osama bin Laden. The Pearl film was shot largely in India, with some scenes in Pakistan; the Bin Laden film was shot in Jordan and India; in these and other films, streets and shops in India were given nominal Pakistani makeovers, and Indian actors were hired to pass as Pakistanis. In them, I have seen India’s signature homemade Ambassador cars traveling down Pakistani streets; actors who play tribal Pashtuns but look Bihari {Bakis have TFTA cars and TFTA Pashtuns, how dare you portray this with a SDRE homemade Amby and a Made in Bihar SDRE dude??!. On a serious note: How the eff did she figure that he was a Bihari, he could have been any SDRE for that matter.}; Western women wearing chadors where they don’t have to, or going around bareheaded when they should be covered.
In the season premiere of “Homeland,” Carrie Mathison orders an airstrike on a terrorist compound in a Pakistani tribal area bordering Afghanistan. It is utterly surreal for a Pakistani to watch a fictional imagining of the dreaded strike from the viewpoint of the person ordering it in an American control room: the disconnection, the studied casualness, the presenting of a birthday cake afterward. It’s not clear who the monsters are in this scene, even before it’s revealed that the strike hit a wedding party, killing women and children. It’s a moment of obvious reversal, but also of nuance, when I wasn’t expecting it.
{:(( so sad. Give us some sympathy folks. While most of your drone strikes have killed terrorist, we make the case that 0.01% hit wedding parties. My guess is it is probably due to the guests that do AK Phyr upwards in "celebration" towards the drone, and everyone is bearded just like arrah wanted them to be.}
She shows up in Twitter from time to counter Tarek fatah and the same alien specimen which Rajiv Malhotra mentioned in his Tolerance episode . She hanged up after thanking him.partha wrote:That NYT article author Bina Shah is the same lady who recently wrote glowingly about Pakjabi feudalism. How it is misunderstood and it is great and all.
See where this "Pearl of Wisdom" has been shared... "Lunatic council", the nosy busybody which is the spaansar of all Track-II, III, IV , V diplomacy promoting "Aman Ki Tamasha", Siachen Piss Park projects.SSridhar wrote:US wants India-Pakistan to hold talks to reduce tension along LoC - PTI"There is no relationship more critical to Pakistan's future than its relationship with its neighbour," Feldman said at the Atlantic Council, a prominent think-tank, here.
+1. Bombs go off in India, Clifton and Defence Colonies feel the explosive ardor. Target the RAPE and Jernails and Bina Shahs in their bungalows.UlanBatori wrote:
....The only solution was found to be asymmetric response, but not in casualty numbers. The solution is to stay calm, deny everything, act innocent, and DESTROY infrastructure (which costs real $$ unlike abdul jehadis) and hit the Senior Officer Corps and their possessions -
And this is how her picture looks at the end of the blog post. Blurred!I agree with Sam Harris and Bill Maher
Some hypotheses:Anujan wrote:Coming back to the original point, why are they going nuts? I mean honestly speaking, even if they lost a few due to Indian firing, it is not that big a deal for them: They regularly lose people due to landslides, avalanches, floods and so on. The entire country is gone hysterical
That too but bombz pleaze for Jernails and familia.Anujan wrote:We can do gandhigiri too. Selective leaks about Whiskey, Women and money that all these jernails indulge in.
In one of her writings she claimed that one side of her family "could trace our lineage all the way to Prophet Muhammad." Typical RAPE so it's unsurprising to see views.partha wrote:That NYT article author Bina Shah is the same lady who recently wrote glowingly about Pakjabi feudalism. How it is misunderstood and it is great and all.
Independent candidate Malik Amir Dogar, backed by Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), defeated senior politician Makhdoom Javed Hashmi on Thursday in the much anticipated by-election for NA-149 (Multan), which fell vacant after the latter’s resignation from the seat on August 18.
According to unofficial and unconfirmed results of all 286 polling stations, Dogar defeated Hashmi by a margin of more than 10,000 votes. Dogar bagged 57,972 votes while the former PTI president managed to secure 47,500 votes in the NA-149 by-poll.
LAHORE: This year’s first death from dengue took place in Lahore where a 24-year-old victim named Owais succumbed to the deadly virus.
Some 26 more people had been tested positive for the virus in the last two days across Punjab.
A majority of the cases were reported from Rawalpindi and Chakwal. The total number of dengue cases in Punjab has reached 332 so far, an official of the health department said.
The only solution to Pakistan is to let them sink to such low levels that day to day life becomes more important than India.sadhana wrote:1. You read history and you realize Pakistan or pre-Pakistan being outraged at sun rising in the east is standard practice.
Gandhi said national language will be Hindustani in both scripts not Urdu so Muslims were outraged. When WWII broke out, Viceroy met not just Jinnah but Gandhi ALSO(instead of shunning Gandhi and sending him to jail), so Jinnah is angry. Viceroy sent telegram condoling then Punjab Premier Sikander Hayat Khan's death(instead of being a jerk and ignoring his colleague's death to assure Jinnah he is the only Muslim leader who matters) so Jinnah is angry.
India sneezes. Pakistan gets angry at India. It rains, Pakistan gets angry at India. There is drought, Pakistan gets angry at India. The sun sets in the west, Pakistan gets angry at India. Disagree with a 'Pakistani Pakistani' (as opposed to a normal Pakistani) on any subject under the sun and Pakistanis get angry.
India FIRING BACK, DESTROYING BUNKERS, GIVING A DISPROPORTIONATE RESPONSE to a little routine Pak firing and routine jihadeering? Of course Pakistan gets angry.
2. Someone pointed out that Pak wants to restore the role of UN which is now lost due to India going back to Simla agreement, not underwriting UN offices etc. So being outraged is the way to get international community to chime in, and hopefully the UN too.
India should completely ignore Pak frenzy and rhetoric which is a purely cost free endeavor for Pak, no losses to them only benefits, if any.
India should keep extracting material cost for Pakistan's LOC firing. Even if pattern of LOC firing resumes, Pak will have to spend money to restore their boundary structures which are destroyed when India fires back.